I am not the religious fundie kind of asshole, but I think that could be a very good idea. Provided they where reliable enough. You could (would have to) build in a one-time shop-replaceable override switch that released ink into a little plastic panel on the dashboard or something, and make it burdened with fines to drive around like that outside an emergency situation.
I agree. Morality shouldn't extend outside of basic universial values, but those values should be enforced in full no matter race, nation or religion. If you don't think there's any universial values you're deluding yourself - probably to make the world look like a nicer place than it is.
How is the above post a troll? They actually do all those things. Imagine if the fundamentalists of the USA ran your part of town - wouldn't you want someone to remove them?
The parent is right (and shouldn't be modded troll just because you disagree with him), even if he puts the torture situation on false premises - in such a situation, almost everyone would file out someones teeth to have a shot at the needed information. The corruption comes when torture and harsh interrogation methods are used even in non-emergencies.
Let's say there's a person. Now, he's gone a bit crazy and is mostly bankrupt. Wouldn't you help him, even as he in his madness still was prideful and refused your help? Would you even consider ranting about your own misbehaviour and worries that roughing him up to subdue him might have been a bit too much, instead of getting on with getting him the help he needs? No one assumes that the west is perfect - but the situation of the oppressed in the islamic middle east is simply much, much worse. Bad enough that such considerations are outweighed, for the most part.
Scraping sites, using keywords to locate interesting data presumably. It says right there, "blogs, torrents, online collaboration services and other sources". As in, people posted their passwords there and said something like "this is my password", right there in the open. As for verification, my best guess is they got the providers to agree to check the scraped list against their accounts. I don't think they'd try to log in to the accounts to verify them, as they're a reputable company and such an action would open them up for liability.
In this case, specifically: What's a browser extension? But the button appears inside the facebook page, so it's "on the web page" and not on my computer... It's facebooks system, if there's a virus loose in their system it's their problem not mine! How can it send spam messages? Can a virus click the "send" button? But I'd notice if my mouse cursor would move, and I turn my computer off at night! How can someone possibly make money off stuff that's in the phone book? You're just being hysterical. What do you mean "data mining algorithms"? I'm being ripped off by the dwarven mafia now? Etc., I'm sure you can imagine more things along that vein...
I suppose you could use a directional antenna from the ground, but you'd have to keep it stable and make it autotracking. And splice that together from off-the-shelf parts in the same price class as the drone itself, of course.
I can't really understand the loathing most people here display for facebook. Or rather, I do, but it seems like people loathe the basic idea of a "IRL overlay" social web? As long as you know enough people who use it, it's great for coordinating IRL activities like parties, birthdays, the nicer kind of activism, etc...
It's not that they don't care, it's that they can't percieve what's real content and not - because they don't have a model of the underlying structure beyond the surface of the content.
Yeah, but that still doesn't allow live packets to piggyback on it - very useful, if you're trying to use it for cyberwarfare (to hack into a site) using a wifi connection. If penetrating the site through some other connection was possible, why would you use the drone in the first place? Using static pre-loaded attacks that trigger only on a certain MAC/SSID/other concievable signature would be much more limiting.
Though I'm sure "real spy drones" already have this sort of capability, along with being able to sniff other spectrums. I guess you could use it to deliver payloads to wifi clients/routers and perform automated MITM attacks, but how are you supposed to use it as an antenna extender without using another longer-range wireless system to communicate with it? Using it to locate wifi clients seems redundant as they don't have that much of a range anyway, unless you couldn't locate the access point for some reason.
You are being unreasonably paranoid. Most people just want a materially rich life, based in a stable and impersonal economy, taking the path of least resistance to this goal. It's on this assumption any new structures must be built - making the free alternatives more attractive (or at least essential) than the closed, walled in ones.
There's obviously no such thing as law on a national level, there's just instruments and arbitary agreements used to formalize power between otherwise completely unregulated structures. The law of the jungle is the only one that exists, and has ever existed.
I remember putting a spieces of peas in glasses of water as a child, and they sprouted roots even though they had no nutrients. Presumably they carry a reserve in themselves to kick-start the process, as they well can't get nutrients without a root system?
I can't speak for the bush administration. But when I heard about the invasion being launched, and read up a bit about the situation in afghanistan, I rejoiced (I was thirteen at the time.) I realized that the motivations for the war was complex and possibly false, and I considered the WTC bombings to be a tragedy blown completely out of proportion, but in that instant I felt some hope in my heart that the whole world could one day actually be under the control of one unifying and at least acceptably good force.
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I am not the religious fundie kind of asshole, but I think that could be a very good idea. Provided they where reliable enough. You could (would have to) build in a one-time shop-replaceable override switch that released ink into a little plastic panel on the dashboard or something, and make it burdened with fines to drive around like that outside an emergency situation.
I agree. Morality shouldn't extend outside of basic universial values, but those values should be enforced in full no matter race, nation or religion. If you don't think there's any universial values you're deluding yourself - probably to make the world look like a nicer place than it is.
How is the above post a troll? They actually do all those things. Imagine if the fundamentalists of the USA ran your part of town - wouldn't you want someone to remove them?
The parent is right (and shouldn't be modded troll just because you disagree with him), even if he puts the torture situation on false premises - in such a situation, almost everyone would file out someones teeth to have a shot at the needed information. The corruption comes when torture and harsh interrogation methods are used even in non-emergencies.
Let's say there's a person. Now, he's gone a bit crazy and is mostly bankrupt. Wouldn't you help him, even as he in his madness still was prideful and refused your help? Would you even consider ranting about your own misbehaviour and worries that roughing him up to subdue him might have been a bit too much, instead of getting on with getting him the help he needs?
No one assumes that the west is perfect - but the situation of the oppressed in the islamic middle east is simply much, much worse. Bad enough that such considerations are outweighed, for the most part.
They got them like this: http://www.malwarecity.com/blog/the-limits-of-privacy-is-this-your-password-865.html
http://www.malwarecity.com/blog/the-limits-of-privacy-is-this-your-password-865.html
Link to full description of the experiment: http://www.malwarecity.com/blog/the-limits-of-privacy-is-this-your-password-865.html
Scraping sites, using keywords to locate interesting data presumably. It says right there, "blogs, torrents, online collaboration services and other sources".
As in, people posted their passwords there and said something like "this is my password", right there in the open. As for verification, my best guess is they got the providers to agree to check the scraped list against their accounts. I don't think they'd try to log in to the accounts to verify them, as they're a reputable company and such an action would open them up for liability.
In this case, specifically:
What's a browser extension?
But the button appears inside the facebook page, so it's "on the web page" and not on my computer...
It's facebooks system, if there's a virus loose in their system it's their problem not mine!
How can it send spam messages? Can a virus click the "send" button? But I'd notice if my mouse cursor would move, and I turn my computer off at night!
How can someone possibly make money off stuff that's in the phone book? You're just being hysterical. What do you mean "data mining algorithms"? I'm being ripped off by the dwarven mafia now?
Etc., I'm sure you can imagine more things along that vein...
I suppose you could use a directional antenna from the ground, but you'd have to keep it stable and make it autotracking. And splice that together from off-the-shelf parts in the same price class as the drone itself, of course.
I can't really understand the loathing most people here display for facebook. Or rather, I do, but it seems like people loathe the basic idea of a "IRL overlay" social web? As long as you know enough people who use it, it's great for coordinating IRL activities like parties, birthdays, the nicer kind of activism, etc...
It's not that they don't care, it's that they can't percieve what's real content and not - because they don't have a model of the underlying structure beyond the surface of the content.
Yeah, but that still doesn't allow live packets to piggyback on it - very useful, if you're trying to use it for cyberwarfare (to hack into a site) using a wifi connection. If penetrating the site through some other connection was possible, why would you use the drone in the first place? Using static pre-loaded attacks that trigger only on a certain MAC/SSID/other concievable signature would be much more limiting.
Though I'm sure "real spy drones" already have this sort of capability, along with being able to sniff other spectrums. I guess you could use it to deliver payloads to wifi clients/routers and perform automated MITM attacks, but how are you supposed to use it as an antenna extender without using another longer-range wireless system to communicate with it? Using it to locate wifi clients seems redundant as they don't have that much of a range anyway, unless you couldn't locate the access point for some reason.
You are being unreasonably paranoid. Most people just want a materially rich life, based in a stable and impersonal economy, taking the path of least resistance to this goal. It's on this assumption any new structures must be built - making the free alternatives more attractive (or at least essential) than the closed, walled in ones.
Mkai, tastes vary - but freenet is too slow to even download images at a reasonable speed.
Freenet is hideously slow. If you can't stream video through it, it's not going to happen.
It's a very sad world, my friend. Though less sad than it used to be, obviously.
There's obviously no such thing as law on a national level, there's just instruments and arbitary agreements used to formalize power between otherwise completely unregulated structures. The law of the jungle is the only one that exists, and has ever existed.
Because we can.
No. Allegorically speaking, it's like me invading your house and shooting you because you beat your wife and kids.
I remember putting a spieces of peas in glasses of water as a child, and they sprouted roots even though they had no nutrients. Presumably they carry a reserve in themselves to kick-start the process, as they well can't get nutrients without a root system?
"Lawful" doesn't preclude "Good".
I can't speak for the bush administration. But when I heard about the invasion being launched, and read up a bit about the situation in afghanistan, I rejoiced (I was thirteen at the time.) I realized that the motivations for the war was complex and possibly false, and I considered the WTC bombings to be a tragedy blown completely out of proportion, but in that instant I felt some hope in my heart that the whole world could one day actually be under the control of one unifying and at least acceptably good force.