He just told you why. To get the functional equivalent of package A from package B he has to spend three weeks of his own time tweaking the source. His contention is twofold:
1. If I need it now I can't wait for the tweaks.
2. My time is worth something. Three weeks of my free time is worth a lot. Thirty bucks is worth less than three weeks of my free time.
Some of us have other pusuits that we prefer over tweaking somebody elses code. Me? I like photography and go out into the desert to take scenics or portraits of friends and family. I like music (to play it, not just listen to it). I like to be engaged with other people in conversation and fellowship. If I'm fiddling with someone else's code I lose all of that. Thirty bucks seems cheap when you look at it that way.
If I'm wanting to learn something, or just hone my skills and I don't need the functionality right away, I'm willing to play with source (or just tinker with dependencies). Otherwise I have to start weighing my options.
I worked for a company that had their data backup stored in another building that was approx. 300 feet away. The ISO auditor said this was fine as long as that building was equipped with a fire suppression sprinkler system.
Must not be in an earthquake or flood zone or in tornado alley. A building that proximal would stand a good chance of being wiped out if the other one was under many natural disasters.
Right. By singling out only the GM humans you give competetive advantage to the other manufacturers' humans. I say we put the brakes on this now so that we don't give short shift to the GM humans. We may tire because the work is exhausting but should never give up the fight against those who would steer our thinking in the wrong direction. We need to stand united as one body (by Fisher), a uni-body if you will, against the tyrrany of a political engine that seeks to drive the compression of our thoughts into the mold of what they deem human at the expense of those who have no horn to honk in defiance against the relentless flow of traffic accelerating their marginalization in an effort to achieve bumper-to-bumper conformity.
Who will be the spark plug to step up and give ignition to this movement? What key individual will jump-start this cause by igniting the fuel of controversy under the collective seats of our finely upholstered leaders?
I was thinking along the lines of moving the mountain just by bending light or transmitting an image of it. In other words "Why move the mountain when we can simply satisfy the basic need to see it."
Wouldn't that depend on the "REASON" for moving Mt. Fuji? If the reason was, "to get a better view" then your solution might be just fine. If the reason was, "to make way for a construction project" your solution is worthless.
And that's one of the reasons development fails miserably so often. Insufficient data from which decisions are made. Whenever a user asks for a particular feature, DON'T under any circumstances start thinking of ways that could be implemented. Instead, start asking questions. Why do they want the feature? What will they do with the feature? How do they do that now? What do they do with the information once they get it to that point?
I can tell you for certain that 9 times out of 10 the user wants something other than what they ask for. Many times what they ask for is an interim step toward what they ultimately want. By not asking questions you may get Mt. Fuji moved and never know it was because they thought it'd make a nice spot to plant mushrooms when you could have shown them the mushroom rich environment at their back door. By asking the right questions, you can deliver MORE than the customer is requesting and may find the ultimate solution was easier than moving a mountain.
But if you build the GUI into the kernel like Windows does, it will be faster and more stable!
Curse you, AC. How was I to know that I would read something that hilarious (with an exclamation point no less) today and need a fresh pair of pants? Guess I'll just keep myself parked under the desk until I dry out....
The next question is "Did Enron ask these creative thinking questions of their financial people?"
How do you move Mt. Fuji to an offshore holding company without arousing the suspicions of the government, shareholders and employees?
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You should be VERY CAUTIOUS of ANY transmissions you get from the Internet, because ultimately, you probably have no idea where they came from or where they've been, nor is there (for the most part), any way to really tell.
That's why I never put downloads in my mouth or touch them with my hands...
Dang! I knew that kindergarten training would come in handy some day.
Clearly accidents happen, and can not be deterred, and people involved in true accidents are not a future risk to society.
And that's why that person likely will not go to jail. The comment you responded to was about what the poster felt 'legal punishment' was for and the fact that they mentioned 'keeping dangerous people off the streets' and 'deterrence' would have exempted your example, making your refutation actually an agreement.
The problem is that people who have recovered/leanred to live with their disorder under appropriate supervision/medication should be released.
But that's part of the problem, isn't it? They're perfectly fine within the controlled and supervised environment of the institution, but what about on the outside where there are different stressors and little to no supervision. Who's there to see to it that they take their medication? How many doses can they skip before their grasp on reality is impaired enough to fear the medication and deliberately not take it?
I know lots of people who won't take medications designed to keep them from dying - people who have full control of their mental faculties. What makes you think that your recovered mental patient will do any better?
They should be able to tell by driving behind them. Apparently a nice side effect is that the exhaust smells like french fries (or some other fast food - I can't remember exactly what).
Dang! I hate being behind those guys. I get hungry, fat and acne just from being in a traffic jam during rush hour....
That might well happen... when McDs lobbies for it and gets themselves an excemption via a specially paid for loop hole.
Got to love the land of the free.
If you want to criticize, at least pick something legitimate instead of making something up in your head and then carping about it. It's your fantasy, castigate yourself.
Reminds me of when my wife would have a bad dream and be mad at me for days because I was in it.....
I believe the gun comment was in reference to the looting during a power outage that he mentioned just prior. I didn't see it as an anti-gun comment at all, though I suppose it could be.
If your unemployed for a long period there is a reason for that. That reason is not 'your skills are dazzlingly bright', nor is it 'you're trying too hard'.
Nice generalities. Having been unemployed for long periods of time in the past (once for 11 months and once for 9 months) I feel somewhat qualified to respond.
In the mid 80's I left a very high paying job because I didn't care for the pressures and the time away from my family and the cost of treating ulcers was probably going to go up. I left for a job at half the salary and asked if I could start in a month so that I could spend some time with my wife and kids. They were very accomodating. In that month the company was acquired and the job eliminated, this during an economic downturn in the 80's. The difficulty in finding a job was threefold - those who had jobs were hanging on to them, those jobs being vacated were not being filled, those interviewing me told me they wouldn't hire me because I'd be looking for another high-paying job after a few months (when I finally got a job I was there for 8 years before leaving to find a better one).
The 9 month period of unemployment happened a few years ago when I was "let go" because "I wasn't the type of programmer they were looking for." I think they were looking for a programmer that didn't have cancer. It's difficult to look for a job when undergoing cancer treatment, especially when you tell potential employers you'll need time off up front for scheduled treatments.
It may be possible that your sweeping generalities are as accurate as your inappropriate use of the word 'your'.
Are you suggesting that there were no warring factions or tribes before the Europeans came?
I suppose it could also be said that Europeans caused the US Civil war since most of the participants wouldn't have been on the continent without European exploration and colonization.
...it is much, much, much more difficult for countries nowadays to "hoist themselves by their petards"
Did you really mean to imply that it's much more difficult for them to destroy themselves with their own devices, or to "pull themselves up by their own boot-straps"?
When I worked in Glacier National Park in Montana we sold "bear bells" in the gift shop.
I heard about the ranger that was telling hikers about wearing bear bells to warn the bears of your approach and using pepper spray in the even of a too close encounter. He then went on to tell them how to identify different bear droppings by size, shape and content. After covering black and brown bear spoor someone asked, "What about Grizzlies?"
The ranger replied that Grizzly droppings were easy to spot. "It's larger, smells like pepper spray and usually has bells in it."
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You will prefer the one that costs.
Why?
He just told you why. To get the functional equivalent of package A from package B he has to spend three weeks of his own time tweaking the source. His contention is twofold:
1. If I need it now I can't wait for the tweaks.
2. My time is worth something. Three weeks of my free time is worth a lot. Thirty bucks is worth less than three weeks of my free time.
Some of us have other pusuits that we prefer over tweaking somebody elses code. Me? I like photography and go out into the desert to take scenics or portraits of friends and family. I like music (to play it, not just listen to it). I like to be engaged with other people in conversation and fellowship. If I'm fiddling with someone else's code I lose all of that. Thirty bucks seems cheap when you look at it that way.
If I'm wanting to learn something, or just hone my skills and I don't need the functionality right away, I'm willing to play with source (or just tinker with dependencies). Otherwise I have to start weighing my options.
But how do you do this in RedHat?
And the silence is just deafening.....
Try laying that one on the interviewer at Microsoft baby!! :-D
Hah! There is no interviewer at no Microsoft.
I worked for a company that had their data backup stored in another building that was approx. 300 feet away. The ISO auditor said this was fine as long as that building was equipped with a fire suppression sprinkler system.
Must not be in an earthquake or flood zone or in tornado alley. A building that proximal would stand a good chance of being wiped out if the other one was under many natural disasters.
Right. By singling out only the GM humans you give competetive advantage to the other manufacturers' humans. I say we put the brakes on this now so that we don't give short shift to the GM humans. We may tire because the work is exhausting but should never give up the fight against those who would steer our thinking in the wrong direction. We need to stand united as one body (by Fisher), a uni-body if you will, against the tyrrany of a political engine that seeks to drive the compression of our thoughts into the mold of what they deem human at the expense of those who have no horn to honk in defiance against the relentless flow of traffic accelerating their marginalization in an effort to achieve bumper-to-bumper conformity.
Who will be the spark plug to step up and give ignition to this movement? What key individual will jump-start this cause by igniting the fuel of controversy under the collective seats of our finely upholstered leaders?
Thanks! I was beginning to think that Zen was just the Far Eastern version of the "In Soviet Russia Mt. Fuji moves YOU!"
I was thinking along the lines of moving the mountain just by bending light or transmitting an image of it. In other words "Why move the mountain when we can simply satisfy the basic need to see it."
Wouldn't that depend on the "REASON" for moving Mt. Fuji? If the reason was, "to get a better view" then your solution might be just fine. If the reason was, "to make way for a construction project" your solution is worthless.
And that's one of the reasons development fails miserably so often. Insufficient data from which decisions are made. Whenever a user asks for a particular feature, DON'T under any circumstances start thinking of ways that could be implemented. Instead, start asking questions. Why do they want the feature? What will they do with the feature? How do they do that now? What do they do with the information once they get it to that point?
I can tell you for certain that 9 times out of 10 the user wants something other than what they ask for. Many times what they ask for is an interim step toward what they ultimately want. By not asking questions you may get Mt. Fuji moved and never know it was because they thought it'd make a nice spot to plant mushrooms when you could have shown them the mushroom rich environment at their back door. By asking the right questions, you can deliver MORE than the customer is requesting and may find the ultimate solution was easier than moving a mountain.
Whaaat?? Where were the elements of sense? The whole thing was as funny as could be.
But if you build the GUI into the kernel like Windows does, it will be faster and more stable!
Curse you, AC. How was I to know that I would read something that hilarious (with an exclamation point no less) today and need a fresh pair of pants? Guess I'll just keep myself parked under the desk until I dry out....
The next question is "Did Enron ask these creative thinking questions of their financial people?"
How do you move Mt. Fuji to an offshore holding company without arousing the suspicions of the government, shareholders and employees?
You should be VERY CAUTIOUS of ANY transmissions you get from the Internet, because ultimately, you probably have no idea where they came from or where they've been, nor is there (for the most part), any way to really tell.
That's why I never put downloads in my mouth or touch them with my hands...
Dang! I knew that kindergarten training would come in handy some day.
Clearly accidents happen, and can not be deterred, and people involved in true accidents are not a future risk to society.
And that's why that person likely will not go to jail. The comment you responded to was about what the poster felt 'legal punishment' was for and the fact that they mentioned 'keeping dangerous people off the streets' and 'deterrence' would have exempted your example, making your refutation actually an agreement.
The problem is that people who have recovered/leanred to live with their disorder under appropriate supervision/medication should be released.
But that's part of the problem, isn't it? They're perfectly fine within the controlled and supervised environment of the institution, but what about on the outside where there are different stressors and little to no supervision. Who's there to see to it that they take their medication? How many doses can they skip before their grasp on reality is impaired enough to fear the medication and deliberately not take it?
I know lots of people who won't take medications designed to keep them from dying - people who have full control of their mental faculties. What makes you think that your recovered mental patient will do any better?
They should be able to tell by driving behind them. Apparently a nice side effect is that the exhaust smells like french fries (or some other fast food - I can't remember exactly what).
Dang! I hate being behind those guys. I get hungry, fat and acne just from being in a traffic jam during rush hour....
That might well happen... when McDs lobbies for it and gets themselves an excemption via a specially paid for loop hole.
Got to love the land of the free.
If you want to criticize, at least pick something legitimate instead of making something up in your head and then carping about it. It's your fantasy, castigate yourself.
Reminds me of when my wife would have a bad dream and be mad at me for days because I was in it.....
Yes. At any given point in time it's one of those....
I believe the gun comment was in reference to the looting during a power outage that he mentioned just prior. I didn't see it as an anti-gun comment at all, though I suppose it could be.
If your unemployed for a long period there is a reason for that. That reason is not 'your skills are dazzlingly bright', nor is it 'you're trying too hard'.
Nice generalities. Having been unemployed for long periods of time in the past (once for 11 months and once for 9 months) I feel somewhat qualified to respond.
In the mid 80's I left a very high paying job because I didn't care for the pressures and the time away from my family and the cost of treating ulcers was probably going to go up. I left for a job at half the salary and asked if I could start in a month so that I could spend some time with my wife and kids. They were very accomodating. In that month the company was acquired and the job eliminated, this during an economic downturn in the 80's. The difficulty in finding a job was threefold - those who had jobs were hanging on to them, those jobs being vacated were not being filled, those interviewing me told me they wouldn't hire me because I'd be looking for another high-paying job after a few months (when I finally got a job I was there for 8 years before leaving to find a better one).
The 9 month period of unemployment happened a few years ago when I was "let go" because "I wasn't the type of programmer they were looking for." I think they were looking for a programmer that didn't have cancer. It's difficult to look for a job when undergoing cancer treatment, especially when you tell potential employers you'll need time off up front for scheduled treatments.
It may be possible that your sweeping generalities are as accurate as your inappropriate use of the word 'your'.
Oh good greif.
That was funny! Was it intentional? Maybe you need more coffee....
There are a lot of different spiritual beliefs in Africa.
Asking them to change is like asking christians to have sex before marriage.
Shouldn't be too hard then as many who profess to be Christians volunteer without having to be asked.
Are you suggesting that there were no warring factions or tribes before the Europeans came?
I suppose it could also be said that Europeans caused the US Civil war since most of the participants wouldn't have been on the continent without European exploration and colonization.
...it is much, much, much more difficult for countries nowadays to "hoist themselves by their petards"
Did you really mean to imply that it's much more difficult for them to destroy themselves with their own devices, or to "pull themselves up by their own boot-straps"?
Some recent Harley's have balanced engines.
Heresy! I'll bet these things don't even leak oil either! What's this world coming to?
I think that there are *many* outliers providing examples to the contrary.
Is an 'outlier' similar to an 'out-and-out-liar'?
When I worked in Glacier National Park in Montana we sold "bear bells" in the gift shop.
I heard about the ranger that was telling hikers about wearing bear bells to warn the bears of your approach and using pepper spray in the even of a too close encounter. He then went on to tell them how to identify different bear droppings by size, shape and content. After covering black and brown bear spoor someone asked, "What about Grizzlies?"
The ranger replied that Grizzly droppings were easy to spot. "It's larger, smells like pepper spray and usually has bells in it."