"We've all seen this FUD before. It's old news, it's an old battle. They're bringing it up again. But this time isn't like the last time. It just FEELS like, this time, somethings different. Like they're losing... They're not losing their castle, but the little provinces on the edge of their kingdom. Open source is slowly encroaching on their land, and they know it."
"Isn't that worth *dying* for?"
Sorry, it just reminded me of a Matrix monologue...:-)
> It normally doesn't run Although recently i had it turn on and never turn off, except if you put the machine to sleep. This still happened when left sleeping over night.
A reboot stopped it, but killed my 56 day uptime.:-(
> On my Mac, I ran iTunes and clicked 'Share Library'. > On the Win2000 machine my Mac's music library automatically appeared in the left panel. How does it implement Rendezvous on Windows? Could iTunes be a covert way to get Rendezvous more common on Windows and thus more useful?
In 1.4 it seemed to block images that weren't from the sub-domain, rather than just those from a different domain, which blocked a *whole* lot of images (including useful ones).
Did anyone else consider that following these instructions would stop the auto-run function, and thus (in SunnComm's mind) violate the DMCA.
1. Open notepad. 2. Start typing "DMCA" repeatedly, without use of the capslock key. 3. Insert CD (by way of knee hitting drive tray, or a friend's assistance.
Congratulations, you just used the DMCA to violate the DMCA!*
> if the app would give you back a "support ticket number", > or a bug ID in the DB so that you could look back later > and see how many other entries have been logged for the > same error and if a patch is in the making...
I'm repeating myself, but:
http://www.bugtoaster.com/
TalkBack's Full Circle (as used in Mozilla) in theory does the same, just not publically.
I've also developed a similar thing for Python, it's on sourceforge, but not released yet.
"Install our free software, send crash reports to our database automatically, and check to see if a fix is known. Join computer users, software developers, and IT professionals from around the world; working together to eliminate computer crashes."
> I borrowed an iBook with OS X for a few weeks and was amazed to discover > that you could suspend and resume it all week long without trouble. Oh yeah, that's *so* sweet--since I started doing that I've had 2 x 35+ days uptime. (Would've been longer but I had a hardware failure...) It makes a huge difference to how you work.
One difference is that (I believe) OSA has been around longer than WHS, and less of an afterthought/add-on.
As far as I understand it OSA is like WHS + COM (or whatever it is these days). In fact you can even send AppleEvents over networks (if you enable it).
So, Python + win32 COM bindings is somewhat equivalent to Python + AppleEvent/OSA bindings.
I think OSA/AE is more integrated into the environment with most applications at least supporting the "Standard Suite" which includes opening & closing documents and quiting the application.
> Why applescript? That's because mac applications can include "dictionaries" of commands that applescript can use.
Actually:
"The Open Scripting Architecture (OSA) is an API that provides a standard mechanism for creating scriptable applications and for writing scripting components to implement scripting languages. The AppleScript component implements AppleScript, the standard scripting language defined by Apple, but developers can also write scripting components for additional scripting languages."
Only week-long uptime? I most recently got 35 days on my dual USB iBook (and that's with 10.2.1) until my combo-drive DVD died. (Yeah, that's a whole other issue...)
> But if you want something as niche as a world class flight simulator, sorry, you're probably not gonna get it open source.
"The FlightGear flight simulator project is an open-source, multi-platform, cooperative flight simulator development project. Source code for the entire project is available and licensed under the GNU General Public License.
The goal of the FlightGear project is to create a sophisticated flight simulator framework for use in research or academic environments, for the development and pursuit of other interesting flight simulation ideas, and as an end-user application. We are developing a sophisticated, open simulation framework that can be expanded and improved upon by anyone interested in contributing."
> Is it really possible to backpack the US and Canada? Depending on your definition of "backpack", sure. I've done it, stuck mainly to major cities, so it wasn't cheap, but doable. Plenty of backpacker/youth hostels.
> It seems to me that transportation costs would be > too high to do much of anything. Well, there's always Greyhound... *Heh* I wouldn't recommend it. For a bit more the Amtrak foreign travel passes are really discounted, and it's a great (if somewhat limited) way to travel--better "class" of traveller than Greyhound too (i.e. less like likely to kill you or nick your stuff).
In theory, with this in place I believe it should also be possible to embed SDL in Mac OS X wxWindows apps, once the 'GetHandle' functionality is implemented there.
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> Actually it should come bundled with sqlite
Yes, absolutely--where are the mod points when you need them...?
ObURL: http://www.sqlite.org/
Yeah, being from outside the US I always thought that was odd...
Yeah, it's definitely a Morpheus monologue.
:-)
> And now we dance, or have a LAN party, or something
Hey, with DDR we could make it both...
"We've all seen this FUD before. It's old news, it's an old battle. They're bringing it up again. But this time isn't like the last time. It just FEELS like, this time, somethings different. Like they're losing... They're not losing their castle, but the little provinces on the edge of their kingdom. Open source is slowly encroaching on their land, and they know it."
:-)
"Isn't that worth *dying* for?"
Sorry, it just reminded me of a Matrix monologue...
> It normally doesn't run
:-(
Although recently i had it turn on and never turn off, except if you put the machine to sleep. This still happened when left sleeping over night.
A reboot stopped it, but killed my 56 day uptime.
Hey, check out the tag lines on the press release:
"Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s..."
"Pepsi-Cola ignited Michael Jackson in the 1980s..."
> On my Mac, I ran iTunes and clicked 'Share Library'.
> On the Win2000 machine my Mac's music library automatically appeared in the left panel.
How does it implement Rendezvous on Windows? Could iTunes be a covert way to get Rendezvous more common on Windows and thus more useful?
In 1.4 it seemed to block images that weren't from the sub-domain, rather than just those from a different domain, which blocked a *whole* lot of images (including useful ones).
Did anyone else consider that following these instructions would stop the auto-run function, and thus (in SunnComm's mind) violate the DMCA.
1. Open notepad.
2. Start typing "DMCA" repeatedly, without use of the capslock key.
3. Insert CD (by way of knee hitting drive tray, or a friend's assistance.
Congratulations, you just used the DMCA to violate the DMCA!*
*Or not.
Actually, I didn't RTFA before posting, I now realise it doesn't just track the bad runs, so it's not entirely the same.
> if the app would give you back a "support ticket number", ...
> or a bug ID in the DB so that you could look back later
> and see how many other entries have been logged for the
> same error and if a patch is in the making
I'm repeating myself, but:
http://www.bugtoaster.com/
TalkBack's Full Circle (as used in Mozilla) in theory does the same, just not publically.
I've also developed a similar thing for Python, it's on sourceforge, but not released yet.
> keep in close contact with the client
Yes! That's a very key point. (Especially if you're working remotely.)
How does that compare to this:
"Install our free software, send crash reports to our database automatically, and check to see if a fix is known. Join computer users, software developers, and IT professionals from around the world; working together to eliminate computer crashes."
-- <http://www.bugtoaster.com/>
Anyone that is interested in "knowledge workers" and work environments should read "Peopleware" by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister:
9 32 633439/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0
> I borrowed an iBook with OS X for a few weeks and was amazed to discover
> that you could suspend and resume it all week long without trouble.
Oh yeah, that's *so* sweet--since I started doing that I've had 2 x 35+ days uptime. (Would've been longer but I had a hardware failure...) It makes a huge difference to how you work.
Who wants yet *another* window open?
> Try scripting photoshop and filemaker in python or some other language.
m epage.mac.com/vng1/FileSharing14.html
Just in case you're interested, a quick Google (for Python and Photoshop or Filemaker) brings up:
http://opensource.adobe.com/ (Stuff seems to be Windows only.)
Plus references to using Python + AppleEvents including:
http://www.letterror.com/code/fmpro/
http://ho
One difference is that (I believe) OSA has been around longer than WHS, and less of an afterthought/add-on.
As far as I understand it OSA is like WHS + COM (or whatever it is these days). In fact you can even send AppleEvents over networks (if you enable it).
So, Python + win32 COM bindings is somewhat equivalent to Python + AppleEvent/OSA bindings.
I think OSA/AE is more integrated into the environment with most applications at least supporting the "Standard Suite" which includes opening & closing documents and quiting the application.
> Why applescript? That's because mac applications can include "dictionaries" of commands that applescript can use.
R eference/Open_Scripti_Architecture/>
Actually:
"The Open Scripting Architecture (OSA) is an API that provides a standard mechanism for creating scriptable applications and for writing scripting components to implement scripting languages. The AppleScript component implements AppleScript, the standard scripting language defined by Apple, but developers can also write scripting components for additional scripting languages."
-- <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/
So you're not restricted to using AppleScript to get those benefits.
Python, for example, is able to both send and receive Apple Events.
Thanks for this information, "SubEthaEdit" returns exactly zero results on Google.
Talk about killing brand recognition...
Only week-long uptime? I most recently got 35 days on my dual USB iBook (and that's with 10.2.1) until my combo-drive DVD died. (Yeah, that's a whole other issue...)
> But if you want something as niche as a world class flight simulator, sorry, you're probably not gonna get it open source.
"The FlightGear flight simulator project is an open-source, multi-platform, cooperative flight simulator development project. Source code for the entire project is available and licensed under the GNU General Public License.
The goal of the FlightGear project is to create a sophisticated flight simulator framework for use in research or academic environments, for the development and pursuit of other interesting flight simulation ideas, and as an end-user application. We are developing a sophisticated, open simulation framework that can be expanded and improved upon by anyone interested in contributing."
-- <http://www.flightgear.org/>
Yeah, the architecture in Chicago's cool. I especially liked the downtown "Gotham City" look at night... :-)
> Is it really possible to backpack the US and Canada?
Depending on your definition of "backpack", sure. I've done it, stuck mainly to major cities, so it wasn't cheap, but doable. Plenty of backpacker/youth hostels.
> It seems to me that transportation costs would be
> too high to do much of anything.
Well, there's always Greyhound... *Heh* I wouldn't recommend it. For a bit more the Amtrak foreign travel passes are really discounted, and it's a great (if somewhat limited) way to travel--better "class" of traveller than Greyhound too (i.e. less like likely to kill you or nick your stuff).
I noticed recently that there's work going on to embed SDL in Cocoa Apps, here's a link to some sample code:
5 54 35.html
"Mac OS X Cocoa Integration Patch and Sample Code"
http://www.libsdl.org/pipermail/sdl/2003-July/0
In theory, with this in place I believe it should also be possible to embed SDL in Mac OS X wxWindows apps, once the 'GetHandle' functionality is implemented there.