It must be great to be so sure of yourself that you don't even have to consider dissenting views. I wish the world was as black and white from where I sit.
Thanks for replying. I see. So the actual number of bits is much larger - it seems 10 questions (~3 bits) times 4 is still only about 12 or 13 bits.
The reason I ask is that many (smart) people rubbish horoscopes because they say "there are more than 12 types of people in the world". With 10 questions in 4 groups, that's still only - what - 10,000 types of people. I guess you need to map many onto one if you want to try and draw conclusions about personality types, but it's still not enough bits to make everybody unique.
But there we go - as for biases - I believe that everybody is unique. Not everybody does.
What do you mean by this? I'm fascinated. Isn't our generation more intelligent (or, at least, better educated) than any generation before us? What do you count as a "significant advance" and why do you say we can't make them any more?
You know, this is what makes Slashdot such an unpleasant place for intelligent people to discuss ideas. First, there's the stupid people who don't get what you say and just tell you you're talking rubbish (usually anonymously). Then, there's the intelligent people who are so full of preconceptions they don't even read what you say. You are in the latter class.
If you took the time to read and understand my post you'll find no allusions to "slashdotting politics" - instead, I'm talking about the fact that the same problems are inherent in any group debating system, whether that system be the government or Slashdot.
If we're going to move to a more parcipitative form of governance, we're going to need to solve group debating issues on a much larger scale than just the few hundred people who debate laws today. My point is simply that if we can't solve these problems in an imaginary scenario such as Slashdot, how can we solve them in a real scenario like the government.
If holding that view makes me part of the "wide-eyed groupthink" majority then so be it, but believe me, this is not because I am following the herd. These are my own opinions. I didn't just read them out of a Wired issue.
If you think Signal 11's experiments give you insight into the herd mentality then please share these insights, so we may all be enriched by them. It might help solve the very real problems that we face as a civilisation. That's why I responded to Signal 11's message. It seems a shame that someone with such insight would abandon such an experiment.
Unfortunately, it seems, you're more interested in acting smug and arrogant than in actually solving anything. In fact, your attitude is worse than that - you seem to want to make the problem itself a taboo subject. Well, that's a somewhat Victorian attitude and I think that even the Slashdot herd, who you despise, are at least embodying the spirit of the current age, rather than the 19th century spirit of scientific determinism, which every college student knows is philosophically flawed and just plain inaccurate.
Incidentally, unless you know Signal 11 personally, why are you calling him Siggy? Is his first name even Signal? And why are you using ELTAs when you don't know the meaning of the word "troll"? Now, I don't want to accuse you of acting up to the herd, but when you're pretending to be on first name terms with someone "famous" and using abbreviations without knowing their meaning, it might look to an outsider as if you're playing herd power games, trying to boost your own herd acceptance by using power symbols.
But, hey, you're the sociologist, so I'm sure you're well aware of what game you're playing here.
I'm interested in this Meyers-Brigg stuff you mention. If you're an INTP that seems to imply (from the site you linked to) that you're highly analytical. So when you analyze the Meyers-Brigg stuff does it seem reasonable to you that a personality type can be encoded in this many bits? Information theory requires at least 33.
Bye bye, Signal 11. I must say I'm sorry to see you go - it's just one less voice of reason on this, the website of idiots.
Do you remember when AOL started sending people to the newsgroups?
The future of Slashdot seems intricately bound up to the future of politics. If we can solve these mass-community problems in the comforting realm of Slashdot, we can eventually do it in politics, and make a fair system of government someday. If we - the brightest of our generation - can't do this, then what hope does government by the people have?
Sourcing 5 million DVD drive mechanisms is slightly different from buying a DVD drive down the shops.
I can't wait for the PS2 to come out. That thing will be hacked so fast. DVD's anti-consumer "features" are going to be a thing of the past. In Japan, PS2 has already outsold dedicated DVD players by 2:1, while PS2 game sales are atrocious. They're all buying it as a DVD player. Everyone here and in Europe will get one, because within 6 months - mark my words - you'll be able to download a new flash ROM into the thing that eliminates all the protection from DVDs and games. No-one will buy standalone DVD players once PS2 hits $199 and can be chipped and ROM-patched. Don't even think of the PS2 as a games machine - it's a DVD player that also happens to run games.
3DFX drivers came with my Storm Linux distro. How can I tell if they're experimental? They work, they're just slow.
And as for X, you're totally missing the point. I said, "let's throw X away, there aren't any good X programs." You said, "what about all that KDE/Gnome stuff." I said, "I mean native X, not X using a toolkit." Now you're, like, "That's not a drawback!" I didn't say it was a drawback. It's an advantage. It'll make it easier for the community to get rid of that horrible piece of shit that is X without having to recode the whole of every KDE/Gnome application. Duh!
My reasoning about X is nothing like what you mention. In case you hadn't noticed, X is the foundation upon which all graphical programs in Linux are built. It's more like me complaining that my house is built on a plague pit which is causing gradual subsidence. Fortunately, moving a KDE app to another foundation is easier than moving a house! X isn't like "a hammer" it's much more fundamental to a modern Linux system than that.
But surely you must agree that X is primitive by modern standards, and it's sub-optimal to have the Linux GUI built upon it?
I'd like to see how good X can get with e.g. the decent drivers you mention, but I know too much about X's fundamental design to expect too much.
Cool, is Smokedot back up again now? I'll have to go check...
I have to disagree, although I love the weed, I was smoking it regularly while in a high-stress job (computer games start-up - it doesn't get higher-stress than that). It drove me insane. Being stoned when you're mellowing out and coding is great; being stoned when some emergency comes up is a total bummer.
I ended up not smoking during hours. But now, I have the odd smoke during hours and I do find my day is far more productive. But I feel it's a balance.
Christ almighty, remind me to stay off the interstates! In the UK they've had a 12-hour driving limit for a long time. [Of course, haulage company's are made or broken based on how well they can bend that law, but at least the law's there.]
PS2 and GameCube are going to do just fine without DirectX sapping 5%-10% (less MS-friendly estimates go up to 25%) of their performance. I'm sure this console will too.
Why did you choose Linux as the operating system for this console? Linux is best known as a robust, multi-tasking, multi-user host, while games are single-user, single-tasking applications. Won't the games suffer an unecessary performance hit due to Linux's paging and protection mechanisms, or do you disable these and have a "streamlined" Linux which does only what it absolutely necessary?
Most of the gaming industry claims that the best games come from small, independent, 'garage-type' developing teams with little money.
That comment is 5 years out of date. The games industry has been moaning for the last 5 years about the good old days when the best games came from small, independent dev teams. But it can't happen now, not unless your idea of "the best games" means "Tetris clones". The small independent developers now are running multi-million-dollar budgets, to deal with the complexity and the mass of content that's required to compete in today's market.
You're right - exact counts are not available at all.
Myself, I'd just take the highest counts to the investors;)
But it's getting so that most Slashdot stories contain elementary errors of this type. It used to be news when you'd spot an error in the main section text; now it's news when you don't.
I might quit Slashdot. Do you think I could sell my 45 karma points on eBay?;)
Yeah, as if tech companies enter into this sort of thing off their own back (er...except for this GPL fingerprinting technology I see going around).
I bet they get paid big money by the record companies to develop this shit. The fact that it fails in the marketplace is probably mostly irrelevant to them (unless the companies put clawbacks into their contracts, but only an idiot would sign such a contract).
A shame the moderators can't actually check veracity before giving +4: Informative. And a shame Netscape can get this so badly wrong.
WINMAIL.DAT includes *everything* other than plain text. This includes formatting information, but it also includes any attachments you might have sent.
Worse, WINMAIL.DAT cannot be decoded, even by Outlook on a Macintosh.
So, Outlook doesn't only send only to other Outlook users - it sends only to other Outlook users on the PC.
But since it's an option you can turn off, it's hardly worth complaining about.
The guy can insult his customers, his potential customers, people who buy cutting-edge hardware, contract programmers and C/C++ programmers all in one article! What a wanker.
Let's hope his market niche doesn't dry up any more.
Might be true that 3DFX has lousy drivers. Don't know. Which graphics card has good drivers so that I can get a feel for Linux in general? It's very hard to do if every problem I have with it is due to "someone else" and not Linux per se. But I bet you are this dispassioned when you look at Windows - I bet you know to blame the drivers and not to blame the OS. Yeah, right.
Anyway, I'm talking about X here, not Qt, KDE, or any other one of the layers that's been bolted onto X to make it vaguely programmable. When I say there's no good X programs I mean no good X programs. Qt programs can be ported to other underlying architectures, and KDE and Gnome could be quite easily moved across (in fact, doesn't KDE already run on the WIN32 GDI?) What's written natively for X?
So when I say we should get rid of X, I mean get rid of X, not get rid of KDE/Gnome. And looked at that way, it makes a lot of sense.
Mind you, if you're genuinely using the "network window" concept day-to-day I expect you're quite happy with lousy graphics performance.
It must be great to be so sure of yourself that you don't even have to consider dissenting views. I wish the world was as black and white from where I sit.
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The reason I ask is that many (smart) people rubbish horoscopes because they say "there are more than 12 types of people in the world". With 10 questions in 4 groups, that's still only - what - 10,000 types of people. I guess you need to map many onto one if you want to try and draw conclusions about personality types, but it's still not enough bits to make everybody unique.
But there we go - as for biases - I believe that everybody is unique. Not everybody does.
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What do you mean by this? I'm fascinated. Isn't our generation more intelligent (or, at least, better educated) than any generation before us? What do you count as a "significant advance" and why do you say we can't make them any more?
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If you took the time to read and understand my post you'll find no allusions to "slashdotting politics" - instead, I'm talking about the fact that the same problems are inherent in any group debating system, whether that system be the government or Slashdot.
If we're going to move to a more parcipitative form of governance, we're going to need to solve group debating issues on a much larger scale than just the few hundred people who debate laws today. My point is simply that if we can't solve these problems in an imaginary scenario such as Slashdot, how can we solve them in a real scenario like the government.
If holding that view makes me part of the "wide-eyed groupthink" majority then so be it, but believe me, this is not because I am following the herd. These are my own opinions. I didn't just read them out of a Wired issue.
If you think Signal 11's experiments give you insight into the herd mentality then please share these insights, so we may all be enriched by them. It might help solve the very real problems that we face as a civilisation. That's why I responded to Signal 11's message. It seems a shame that someone with such insight would abandon such an experiment.
Unfortunately, it seems, you're more interested in acting smug and arrogant than in actually solving anything. In fact, your attitude is worse than that - you seem to want to make the problem itself a taboo subject. Well, that's a somewhat Victorian attitude and I think that even the Slashdot herd, who you despise, are at least embodying the spirit of the current age, rather than the 19th century spirit of scientific determinism, which every college student knows is philosophically flawed and just plain inaccurate.
Incidentally, unless you know Signal 11 personally, why are you calling him Siggy? Is his first name even Signal? And why are you using ELTAs when you don't know the meaning of the word "troll"? Now, I don't want to accuse you of acting up to the herd, but when you're pretending to be on first name terms with someone "famous" and using abbreviations without knowing their meaning, it might look to an outsider as if you're playing herd power games, trying to boost your own herd acceptance by using power symbols.
But, hey, you're the sociologist, so I'm sure you're well aware of what game you're playing here.
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I'm interested in this Meyers-Brigg stuff you mention. If you're an INTP that seems to imply (from the site you linked to) that you're highly analytical. So when you analyze the Meyers-Brigg stuff does it seem reasonable to you that a personality type can be encoded in this many bits? Information theory requires at least 33.
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Do you remember when AOL started sending people to the newsgroups?
The future of Slashdot seems intricately bound up to the future of politics. If we can solve these mass-community problems in the comforting realm of Slashdot, we can eventually do it in politics, and make a fair system of government someday. If we - the brightest of our generation - can't do this, then what hope does government by the people have?
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Any species that denigrates its own kind is pretty pathetic.
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I can't wait for the PS2 to come out. That thing will be hacked so fast. DVD's anti-consumer "features" are going to be a thing of the past. In Japan, PS2 has already outsold dedicated DVD players by 2:1, while PS2 game sales are atrocious. They're all buying it as a DVD player. Everyone here and in Europe will get one, because within 6 months - mark my words - you'll be able to download a new flash ROM into the thing that eliminates all the protection from DVDs and games. No-one will buy standalone DVD players once PS2 hits $199 and can be chipped and ROM-patched. Don't even think of the PS2 as a games machine - it's a DVD player that also happens to run games.
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I'm not taking mind-altering drugs unless its for fun. Prozac is not fun.
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Glad Smokedot's back ... see you there!
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I'd love to argue the deep point with you, but you're struggling with the shallowest of the concepts that would come up.
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And as for X, you're totally missing the point. I said, "let's throw X away, there aren't any good X programs." You said, "what about all that KDE/Gnome stuff." I said, "I mean native X, not X using a toolkit." Now you're, like, "That's not a drawback!" I didn't say it was a drawback. It's an advantage. It'll make it easier for the community to get rid of that horrible piece of shit that is X without having to recode the whole of every KDE/Gnome application. Duh!
My reasoning about X is nothing like what you mention. In case you hadn't noticed, X is the foundation upon which all graphical programs in Linux are built. It's more like me complaining that my house is built on a plague pit which is causing gradual subsidence. Fortunately, moving a KDE app to another foundation is easier than moving a house! X isn't like "a hammer" it's much more fundamental to a modern Linux system than that.
But surely you must agree that X is primitive by modern standards, and it's sub-optimal to have the Linux GUI built upon it?
I'd like to see how good X can get with e.g. the decent drivers you mention, but I know too much about X's fundamental design to expect too much.
I have to disagree, although I love the weed, I was smoking it regularly while in a high-stress job (computer games start-up - it doesn't get higher-stress than that). It drove me insane. Being stoned when you're mellowing out and coding is great; being stoned when some emergency comes up is a total bummer.
I ended up not smoking during hours. But now, I have the odd smoke during hours and I do find my day is far more productive. But I feel it's a balance.
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Christ almighty, remind me to stay off the interstates! In the UK they've had a 12-hour driving limit for a long time. [Of course, haulage company's are made or broken based on how well they can bend that law, but at least the law's there.]
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Please email me ... I'm interested in discussing BeOS with you.
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Crashes every hour? Linux-N, Windows-N, Mac-Y
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PS2 and GameCube are going to do just fine without DirectX sapping 5%-10% (less MS-friendly estimates go up to 25%) of their performance. I'm sure this console will too.
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You obviously haven't read the DirectX documentation. Or, indeed, any Microsoft documentation, if you can use the word "perfect" in this context.
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Why did you choose Linux as the operating system for this console? Linux is best known as a robust, multi-tasking, multi-user host, while games are single-user, single-tasking applications. Won't the games suffer an unecessary performance hit due to Linux's paging and protection mechanisms, or do you disable these and have a "streamlined" Linux which does only what it absolutely necessary?
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That comment is 5 years out of date. The games industry has been moaning for the last 5 years about the good old days when the best games came from small, independent dev teams. But it can't happen now, not unless your idea of "the best games" means "Tetris clones". The small independent developers now are running multi-million-dollar budgets, to deal with the complexity and the mass of content that's required to compete in today's market.
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Myself, I'd just take the highest counts to the investors ;)
But it's getting so that most Slashdot stories contain elementary errors of this type. It used to be news when you'd spot an error in the main section text; now it's news when you don't.
I might quit Slashdot. Do you think I could sell my 45 karma points on eBay? ;)
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I bet they get paid big money by the record companies to develop this shit. The fact that it fails in the marketplace is probably mostly irrelevant to them (unless the companies put clawbacks into their contracts, but only an idiot would sign such a contract).
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WINMAIL.DAT includes *everything* other than plain text. This includes formatting information, but it also includes any attachments you might have sent.
Worse, WINMAIL.DAT cannot be decoded, even by Outlook on a Macintosh.
So, Outlook doesn't only send only to other Outlook users - it sends only to other Outlook users on the PC.
But since it's an option you can turn off, it's hardly worth complaining about.
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Let's hope his market niche doesn't dry up any more.
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Anyway, I'm talking about X here, not Qt, KDE, or any other one of the layers that's been bolted onto X to make it vaguely programmable. When I say there's no good X programs I mean no good X programs. Qt programs can be ported to other underlying architectures, and KDE and Gnome could be quite easily moved across (in fact, doesn't KDE already run on the WIN32 GDI?) What's written natively for X?
So when I say we should get rid of X, I mean get rid of X, not get rid of KDE/Gnome. And looked at that way, it makes a lot of sense.
Mind you, if you're genuinely using the "network window" concept day-to-day I expect you're quite happy with lousy graphics performance.