It's not just virtue signaling, we're doing something about it. Trudeau has instituted carbon tax. No one likes it but it will make burning fossil fuels just slightly more expensive than it was before thus discouraging use. We're hoping the other nations that are actually creating most of the pollution follow suit.
Well yeah if most people park them in a garage and only drive them short distances, of course they work for those people! But the fact that it only works for those people is why there is only 50% adoption in a country that practically gives you an EV and charges you double for an ICE.
It's more about heating the cabin to 23C and still expecting it to have the same range, not starting it. I don't care about starting it, I'll put it in my garage. Fuel injected cars don't need block heaters anyway.
Like I said above, where I live you get 10 minutes of 'on' power and 10 minutes of 'off' because they only want you to use it for block heaters. How long would that take to charge a car? You would get a ticket for plugging it in too because they give tickets for anything but block heaters. This is in -30C.
We have block heaters too, except they cycle on and off every 10 minutes so you can't possibly use them for anything but a block heater. Also they give tickets for using an interior car warmer.
Yeah I have a big problem with renting. I specifically purchased a vehicle that I could drive places and not rent. Don't like all the "conditions" they make for you, and I feel way more comfortable in my own vehicle.
People who live in cold climates are screwed. Eventually only EVs will be available and we'll have to pull gas heated battery trailers around I guess. There will be three ICEs on the market and they will all suck. I'm realizing there aren't really that many of us.
Which only makes sense if you want to ride more than 2000 km without stopping. For all other uses, this is totally irrelevant.
That would be the case if you could return the car for a refund if you suddenly discovered that you need to do a long trip, but once you buy a car you are stuck with it.
Ok so let's go about it this way. When it goes to -30C in Norway HOW MANY CONSECUTIVE DAYS is it -30C? One or two days would just be an inconvenience with an EV.
So they were able to get half the market in a country where ICEs are highly penalized, EVs are highly subsidized, and they are flush with oil to pay for everything. Personally I'm wondering why it wasn't higher.
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The sad part is, America and China are too addicted to "strong economies" to do anything about this in any meaningful way.
It's not just virtue signaling, we're doing something about it. Trudeau has instituted carbon tax. No one likes it but it will make burning fossil fuels just slightly more expensive than it was before thus discouraging use. We're hoping the other nations that are actually creating most of the pollution follow suit.
You really think you could stand up to the government with any gun you could buy. THAT'S the funny part.
Yeah not enough to get me to the cabin and back with 10 friends.
So you're saying of the 50% ov EVs in Norway, 50% are in those places. Not the places that only go to -3C.
Well yeah if most people park them in a garage and only drive them short distances, of course they work for those people! But the fact that it only works for those people is why there is only 50% adoption in a country that practically gives you an EV and charges you double for an ICE.
You know what, I don't know how you live there I really don't. How there isn't massive immigration from that place is beyond me.
It's more about heating the cabin to 23C and still expecting it to have the same range, not starting it. I don't care about starting it, I'll put it in my garage. Fuel injected cars don't need block heaters anyway.
I'm more concerned about heating the cabin to a comfortable 23C and then trying to get anywhere long distance on the highway.
It's more about heating the interior of the car sufficiently and still driving a long way.
Like I said above, where I live you get 10 minutes of 'on' power and 10 minutes of 'off' because they only want you to use it for block heaters. How long would that take to charge a car? You would get a ticket for plugging it in too because they give tickets for anything but block heaters. This is in -30C.
We have block heaters too, except they cycle on and off every 10 minutes so you can't possibly use them for anything but a block heater. Also they give tickets for using an interior car warmer.
Yeah I have a big problem with renting. I specifically purchased a vehicle that I could drive places and not rent. Don't like all the "conditions" they make for you, and I feel way more comfortable in my own vehicle.
People who live in cold climates are screwed. Eventually only EVs will be available and we'll have to pull gas heated battery trailers around I guess. There will be three ICEs on the market and they will all suck. I'm realizing there aren't really that many of us.
Others are saying that it rarely freezes where most people live.
I just want to know how far a Model 3 will go with all the heat cranked up.
How do you figure corner faster? The weight of the battery pulls them off the track.
Which only makes sense if you want to ride more than 2000 km without stopping. For all other uses, this is totally irrelevant.
That would be the case if you could return the car for a refund if you suddenly discovered that you need to do a long trip, but once you buy a car you are stuck with it.
I just made the same comment somewhere else. If EVs can truly work for everyone then it should be almost 100% in Norway.
Ok so let's go about it this way. When it goes to -30C in Norway HOW MANY CONSECUTIVE DAYS is it -30C? One or two days would just be an inconvenience with an EV.
So they were able to get half the market in a country where ICEs are highly penalized, EVs are highly subsidized, and they are flush with oil to pay for everything. Personally I'm wondering why it wasn't higher.
We don't need to use a block heater now very often thanks to the invention of fuel injection. Carburetors would never start in the cold.
Why would an EV have any more problems with heavy snow than a regular car? If anything they would be better because they are heavier.
Then why is everyone telling me it is -30C there?
I have been corrected. Still on average temperatures are fairly high. Coldest average temp I found was -10C in bergen.