I liked part "note if the truck had the same technology the accident wouldn't have happened". Why the hell does that even matter? Obviously self driving cars aren't going to work unless they can drive with humans.
Many people have been saying, human anticipation helps with driving. It doesn't matter if a CPU thinks a million times faster, they cannot anticipate at all.
The truck driver was in the wrong, yes, but self driving cars can't just check out if in an unexpected situation. They still have to try to avoid an accident like a human would. You want to live in a world where self driving vehicles run people over because they were crossing the street illegally?
How many comments have I seen on Slashdot asking if all edge cases have *really* been tested? Well it turns out everyone was right in this case. I mean, was this AI tested on real streets at all? It's hard to imagine a car on the road for more than a month wouldn't have had a truck pull out in front of it unexpectedly a couple times. It doesn't matter how fast the AI brain is, this is a case where anticipation may have helped. I just feel bad for the truck driver. Yes, he was in the wrong but a lot of times driving a big truck you have to maneuver this way and rely on other cars working with you a little bit.
Lol.. My city uses clearing equipment borrowed from private construction companies. They don't plow down to the pavement because it costs too much for blades. That kind of communication isn't being added any time soon.
Yeah you're dreaming if you think automated cars really know what is around them. They may have some idea that there is a shape there, but they don't identify it as a cat, dog, bird, human, etc.
How do you determine whether a person has been displaced by AI? When AI takes away all financial planner jobs and they flood the plumber and electrician trades so much so that the wage goes through the floor, are we going to allow plumbers and electricians this training as well?
They will pay less on average perhaps, but some people who were unlucky enough to have their car confuse a truck for a bridge will end up paying more than they otherwise would and that is just plain wrong. Their fault if they trust the technology I guess.
The sensor package doesn't really matter until someone figures out how to make it work under a layer of ice. People are generally good at brushing off their cars but no one will spend time picking ice off the sensors. Maybe current sensors won't be affected by this, but I know cameras will and if there aren't enough working sensors in the most dangerous time of year it's a big problem.
Ok well I trust that 90% to know who they are. I'm fine with the risk I incur on myself by driving manually, so I'm not in the demographic for self driving cars.
..which are also operating in a controlled airspace with much less happening from second to second than on the ground. Also monitored by air traffic control.
Slashdot Mirror
I liked part "note if the truck had the same technology the accident wouldn't have happened". Why the hell does that even matter? Obviously self driving cars aren't going to work unless they can drive with humans.
Many people have been saying, human anticipation helps with driving. It doesn't matter if a CPU thinks a million times faster, they cannot anticipate at all.
The truck driver was in the wrong, yes, but self driving cars can't just check out if in an unexpected situation. They still have to try to avoid an accident like a human would. You want to live in a world where self driving vehicles run people over because they were crossing the street illegally?
The problem is, autonomous vehicles don't have fear. They need fear of financial or physical harm in order to drive like humans.
How many comments have I seen on Slashdot asking if all edge cases have *really* been tested? Well it turns out everyone was right in this case. I mean, was this AI tested on real streets at all? It's hard to imagine a car on the road for more than a month wouldn't have had a truck pull out in front of it unexpectedly a couple times. It doesn't matter how fast the AI brain is, this is a case where anticipation may have helped. I just feel bad for the truck driver. Yes, he was in the wrong but a lot of times driving a big truck you have to maneuver this way and rely on other cars working with you a little bit.
Nonsense! CPUs sample their input at 1000s of times a second! And all that...
Clearly, they all need to become plumbers or electricians. I wonder how many journeyman positions are available in the Philippines right now?
I'm no Musk fan, but what's why you test?
Because it won't ever happen as long as it costs money. Not in any timeline worth discussing here.
Lol.. My city uses clearing equipment borrowed from private construction companies. They don't plow down to the pavement because it costs too much for blades. That kind of communication isn't being added any time soon.
You're missing the point. Humans in general may be worse, but were *those* humans worse?
Yeah you're dreaming if you think automated cars really know what is around them. They may have some idea that there is a shape there, but they don't identify it as a cat, dog, bird, human, etc.
The question that matters is whether those humans would have gotten in those accidents if they were driving manual cars.
If they hit it at the wrong time or if they don't hit it at the right time?
Seeing what is around the car is not the same as knowing what is around the car.
Not just snow, but snow clearing equipment. They stop and wave you on and you drive around them. Not sure how an automated car will do that.
So ride in an automated car and you get to be one of the jerks on the road. Wonderful.
How do you determine whether a person has been displaced by AI? When AI takes away all financial planner jobs and they flood the plumber and electrician trades so much so that the wage goes through the floor, are we going to allow plumbers and electricians this training as well?
They will pay less on average perhaps, but some people who were unlucky enough to have their car confuse a truck for a bridge will end up paying more than they otherwise would and that is just plain wrong. Their fault if they trust the technology I guess.
Ok as long as people don't have to pay for it with personal injuries or financial loss.
Hey if the 10% can point the finger at the car company when they get in an accident and have no financial responsibility or injury then fine.
The sensor package doesn't really matter until someone figures out how to make it work under a layer of ice. People are generally good at brushing off their cars but no one will spend time picking ice off the sensors. Maybe current sensors won't be affected by this, but I know cameras will and if there aren't enough working sensors in the most dangerous time of year it's a big problem.
Ok well I trust that 90% to know who they are. I'm fine with the risk I incur on myself by driving manually, so I'm not in the demographic for self driving cars.
Even if I'm not a perfect driver, statistically there are people that come closer to it than I do. Self driving needs to be better than them.
..which are also operating in a controlled airspace with much less happening from second to second than on the ground. Also monitored by air traffic control.