Ok but then there's the problem of.. if I have 10 people at my cabin who happen to have 5 EVs, how do I charge them all? Am I going to blow the grid in a vacation area because we have a lot of visitors? Many people have many visitors but the electric grid is one of a seasonal vacation area.
Sorry I know I have commented way too many times but maybe in other countries people don't drive 150km somewhere just to spend the afternoon and come back?
For that matter, we have had 10 vehicles just staying at our family cabin. Not as many in the winter, maybe 5. Are we supposed to run all those extension cords through the woods to all the cars on the road? Would the grid there even support it? None of these people knew they were going to a party in the woods until a month before. With EVs all those are gone.
The thing is, people will use these things and get into serious, serious trouble. I cannot count the weddings and family gatherings I had to drive 200 km to. You get there and it's just someone's house. How are they supposed to charge 10 EVs? That's not even going into the cold weather part. You do not want to stop on the highway, ever. That's just bad. People will run out of range all the time and it will be bad.
In a smaller country, you're never really far away from civilization. There is always a house or something around. In Canada once you leave a city you're usually in the middle of nowhere.
But not a lot of ways to do with without being beholden to large companies wherever you go. Walking, biking, driving, and taking the bus. That's about it.
Well that's not the only reason I buy an SUV. But between the fact that my family has five people and four pets we get a lot of use out of it. A single shopping trip to Costco for us fills up the back. A single trip to the vet fills up the back. I once got into a conversation with a person who was talking about one of the SUV EVs and I went to measure a load of cat litter to get a sense of cargo space. I found out that the cat litter alone would have filled up the back of this EV he was talking about. Not only had we done a week of groceries on top of the kitty litter but we made one trip with music class too so we had the whole family with a guitar.
I guess most of what I get out of the SUV is that it saves me a lot of time not having to make multiple trips into town.
It a matter of doing it at the worst time to do it.. when you are on vacation. I'll take a 2-3 minute fill on a normal day of the week, just don't make me sit in a coffee shop in the middle of nowhere when I am on a vacation.
Ok well as long as the ICE market doesn't change, I guess I have no worries. The day the selection of 4x4 SUVs on the market goes from 8 to 2, people will revolt.
Or instead of driving around half the day registering for it, picking it up, getting the stuff, and driving it back; I could just have a vehicle that meets my needs.
Spotify cannot reasonably compete head to head with Apple on their app because as Microsoft has proven, there is no room for any more ecosystems. I could blame Microsoft because they should have seen the whole 'app store' thing coming, but Spotify is a new company that didn't have the fortune to get their foot in the door in time. Apple has an unfair leverage against Spotify.
It's the fact that people think that they can be more than a niche that gets me. You EV people are fighting the wrong battle. You're never going to change a market that prefers trucks and large vehicles for many reasons, you need to petition to the industry to make more practical vehicles. Capitalism isn't going to do it.
You guys remind me a lot about the linux people who claim 'linux is ok' but the elephant in the room is that it is not.
There, I just used a technical analogy on a car article. Over and out.
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Ok but then there's the problem of.. if I have 10 people at my cabin who happen to have 5 EVs, how do I charge them all? Am I going to blow the grid in a vacation area because we have a lot of visitors? Many people have many visitors but the electric grid is one of a seasonal vacation area.
Ok so it was stupid to buy one then in the first place. Better to just dig ditches manually and hire more diggers.
Doesn't matter if I'm getting paid by the hour, just don't expect me to get as much done with a mule.
Ok but when a ditch digger could do 50x time ditches, did they get 50x the pay? That's my point.
When has automation or technology ever made it easier to be a worker? You just end up doing the job of 10 people and getting paid the same.
Sorry I know I have commented way too many times but maybe in other countries people don't drive 150km somewhere just to spend the afternoon and come back?
For that matter, we have had 10 vehicles just staying at our family cabin. Not as many in the winter, maybe 5. Are we supposed to run all those extension cords through the woods to all the cars on the road? Would the grid there even support it? None of these people knew they were going to a party in the woods until a month before. With EVs all those are gone.
It was the Kona EV. 1 trip to town for 1 load of cat litter. Then go back for the groceries? Then go back for the kids? No thanks.
The thing is, people will use these things and get into serious, serious trouble. I cannot count the weddings and family gatherings I had to drive 200 km to. You get there and it's just someone's house. How are they supposed to charge 10 EVs? That's not even going into the cold weather part. You do not want to stop on the highway, ever. That's just bad. People will run out of range all the time and it will be bad.
In a smaller country, you're never really far away from civilization. There is always a house or something around. In Canada once you leave a city you're usually in the middle of nowhere.
But not a lot of ways to do with without being beholden to large companies wherever you go. Walking, biking, driving, and taking the bus. That's about it.
Here in Canada, a 14 hour drive is just two provinces over!
Well that's not the only reason I buy an SUV. But between the fact that my family has five people and four pets we get a lot of use out of it. A single shopping trip to Costco for us fills up the back. A single trip to the vet fills up the back. I once got into a conversation with a person who was talking about one of the SUV EVs and I went to measure a load of cat litter to get a sense of cargo space. I found out that the cat litter alone would have filled up the back of this EV he was talking about. Not only had we done a week of groceries on top of the kitty litter but we made one trip with music class too so we had the whole family with a guitar.
I guess most of what I get out of the SUV is that it saves me a lot of time not having to make multiple trips into town.
It a matter of doing it at the worst time to do it.. when you are on vacation. I'll take a 2-3 minute fill on a normal day of the week, just don't make me sit in a coffee shop in the middle of nowhere when I am on a vacation.
No one is going to stress about 5-10 minutes at a gas station. It's everything longer than that where it becomes an issue.
You mean to tell me there was a Tesla station right where you needed it every time?
You really need to get out more.
Ok well as long as the ICE market doesn't change, I guess I have no worries. The day the selection of 4x4 SUVs on the market goes from 8 to 2, people will revolt.
Ok well I guess as long as the cost and selection of ICEs stay's the same, then there is no issue.
Or instead of driving around half the day registering for it, picking it up, getting the stuff, and driving it back; I could just have a vehicle that meets my needs.
Spotify cannot reasonably compete head to head with Apple on their app because as Microsoft has proven, there is no room for any more ecosystems. I could blame Microsoft because they should have seen the whole 'app store' thing coming, but Spotify is a new company that didn't have the fortune to get their foot in the door in time. Apple has an unfair leverage against Spotify.
I look around me and I see 10 trucks and SUVs for every small vehicle.
It's the fact that people think that they can be more than a niche that gets me. You EV people are fighting the wrong battle. You're never going to change a market that prefers trucks and large vehicles for many reasons, you need to petition to the industry to make more practical vehicles. Capitalism isn't going to do it.
You guys remind me a lot about the linux people who claim 'linux is ok' but the elephant in the room is that it is not.
There, I just used a technical analogy on a car article. Over and out.
No, I'm arguing that most drivers cannot tell what they will need.