If you can tell me how Tesla plans to put 98% of all drivers out there into an automated car that works better than a human then you may have a point. What I know of the capitalist system and the history of vehicles is that things like this do not go into economy cars, these are just for wealthy people. Therefore, there will not be mass adoption and your point about these saving lives is moot.
But the future where they have a lower chance of dying won't happen. I always use the example of automated headlights, because they have been in vehicles for over 10 years but you know who has them even to this day? Mercedes, Lexus, Rolls-Royce.. If you think your kids or your kids kids are going to be on roads with mostly automated cars under capitalism, that's quite a pipe dream.
And I'd recommend he make a move that is somewhat unlike Pocahontas. I saw Avatar much much later in my entertainment centre and felt I had wasted my time. The novelty of visuals and 3D wore off on my around the time I was 16. A movie has to have a good story. Really I'd be interesting in hearing what originality anyone saw in Avatar. And now there will be three more for crying out loud.
I think theatres at one time could afford video and sound technology that would beat what people had available at home. Those days are long gone. My last time in a theatre the picture looked a tad fuzzy, Furthermore I do notice sound quality and I have only been in one theatre ever where it blew me away. It wasn't a theatre in my home city. They can't even make a comfortable seat. Although the one I had last did recline it wasn't reclining in a comfortable way at all; I felt like I had to hold my head up if I sat back. It was a long time since the time before that I had been in a theatre and the experience didn't make me want to go again.
I just saw Star Trek because my kids begged me... it was the first time I have been to a movie theatre in a couple years. The concessions have only got more expensive in this time. I paid extra money for 'IMAX 3D' yet found myself noticing that the picture was almost blurry and was definitely not high resolution in any sense. Also the sound in the theatre didn't even beat my old entertainment system I have at home. I told myself the next time I went to a movie would definitely not be for a long time. I just don't see the value in going, unless it is a movie I specifically want to say I saw in the theatre of which there aren't many.
Unless you can explain the reason why cruise control works with human psychology and autopilot doesn't I suggest we wait for the study from Tesla, because that is what they should be doing; understanding their customer base ESPECIALLY when their solution is killing people. Anything less is just very bad business. When the automobile was invented, society had much different priorities and also it solved a lot more immediate problems then Autopilot may ever. If you think we need Autopilot to 'save lives eventually' then I'm going to stop you on that one too because I don't believe automated vehicles will ever be available to enough people to make a difference. Not under capitalism anyway. Too much profit potential. Self driving cars are just a first world fancy that people shouldn't be dying for. Tesla has ever opportunity to test it and then release it once it is perfected.
Having an 'autopilot' that sometimes drives except when it doesn't is too much of a gray area. Studies have long proven that humans must be involved in the drive (ie must be steering the car) or they lose concentration of it. When you're talking about a 4500 lb machine there can't be grey areas. Other far less dangerous activities such as using a cellphone have been banned while driving, and this should be as well. In my opinion it's not the consumer's job to do anything. It's Tesla's job to make sure it succeeds and they have killed people now. Quite frankly I'm not even sure how Musk can sleep at night, he overestimated the capabilities of human psychology.
It happens all the time where I live. People don't win in court, but they tie up the officer's time nonetheless. The courts get frustrated because it's not worth the time and frustration for anything less than 10 over.
I didn't say those weren't doing anything. They certainly are. You're the one making the case that the driver is driving even when they aren't. If the cruise control had the possibility of accelerating rapidly unless control was taken by the driver immediately I would certainly advocate disabling it. Just as a feature that runs into trucks without giving a warning should be disabled.
So no one should have a problem with Consumer Report's suggestion to disable the Autopilot function then... since it isn't really doing anything for anyone anyway.
It needs clear lane markings, and can only be used in clear weather for one thing. I'm assuming it won't take a risk of passing another vehicle in an oncoming lane which is something dangerous people usually do. If there weren't many situations where it couldn't be used then the driver wouldn't need to have hands on steering wheel at all times.
Still the speed raises another interesting question.. People don't get speeding tickets at 10 above because there are too many atmospheric variables with the tech that the police use to read the speed of your car. But here the logs of the vehicle give the speed of the car without any question... so it's still speeding and should warrant a ticket. In fact, I can see police agencies seizing log data and ticketing accordingly in the future.
Yeah but that doesn't mean you aren't speeding. That means that the police lack the technology to really get you within that range. Now Tesla admits it in logs and it is probably to the thousands of a mile per hour. It is still illegal even if it is 'normal'.
There was recently an article about the cash piles that the big tech companies have stored up and it is a staggering amount that is a sizable piece of the economy.
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If you can tell me how Tesla plans to put 98% of all drivers out there into an automated car that works better than a human then you may have a point. What I know of the capitalist system and the history of vehicles is that things like this do not go into economy cars, these are just for wealthy people. Therefore, there will not be mass adoption and your point about these saving lives is moot.
But the future where they have a lower chance of dying won't happen. I always use the example of automated headlights, because they have been in vehicles for over 10 years but you know who has them even to this day? Mercedes, Lexus, Rolls-Royce.. If you think your kids or your kids kids are going to be on roads with mostly automated cars under capitalism, that's quite a pipe dream.
I just make pretty much the same rant about Avatar above.
And I'd recommend he make a move that is somewhat unlike Pocahontas. I saw Avatar much much later in my entertainment centre and felt I had wasted my time. The novelty of visuals and 3D wore off on my around the time I was 16. A movie has to have a good story. Really I'd be interesting in hearing what originality anyone saw in Avatar. And now there will be three more for crying out loud.
Just another symptom of an economic system that pretty much rewards people for making and doing things that are bad for our population in general.
I think theatres at one time could afford video and sound technology that would beat what people had available at home. Those days are long gone. My last time in a theatre the picture looked a tad fuzzy, Furthermore I do notice sound quality and I have only been in one theatre ever where it blew me away. It wasn't a theatre in my home city. They can't even make a comfortable seat. Although the one I had last did recline it wasn't reclining in a comfortable way at all; I felt like I had to hold my head up if I sat back. It was a long time since the time before that I had been in a theatre and the experience didn't make me want to go again.
I just saw Star Trek because my kids begged me... it was the first time I have been to a movie theatre in a couple years. The concessions have only got more expensive in this time. I paid extra money for 'IMAX 3D' yet found myself noticing that the picture was almost blurry and was definitely not high resolution in any sense. Also the sound in the theatre didn't even beat my old entertainment system I have at home. I told myself the next time I went to a movie would definitely not be for a long time. I just don't see the value in going, unless it is a movie I specifically want to say I saw in the theatre of which there aren't many.
Unless you can explain the reason why cruise control works with human psychology and autopilot doesn't I suggest we wait for the study from Tesla, because that is what they should be doing; understanding their customer base ESPECIALLY when their solution is killing people. Anything less is just very bad business. When the automobile was invented, society had much different priorities and also it solved a lot more immediate problems then Autopilot may ever. If you think we need Autopilot to 'save lives eventually' then I'm going to stop you on that one too because I don't believe automated vehicles will ever be available to enough people to make a difference. Not under capitalism anyway. Too much profit potential. Self driving cars are just a first world fancy that people shouldn't be dying for. Tesla has ever opportunity to test it and then release it once it is perfected.
Having an 'autopilot' that sometimes drives except when it doesn't is too much of a gray area. Studies have long proven that humans must be involved in the drive (ie must be steering the car) or they lose concentration of it. When you're talking about a 4500 lb machine there can't be grey areas. Other far less dangerous activities such as using a cellphone have been banned while driving, and this should be as well. In my opinion it's not the consumer's job to do anything. It's Tesla's job to make sure it succeeds and they have killed people now. Quite frankly I'm not even sure how Musk can sleep at night, he overestimated the capabilities of human psychology.
It happens all the time where I live. People don't win in court, but they tie up the officer's time nonetheless. The courts get frustrated because it's not worth the time and frustration for anything less than 10 over.
So you're saying Autopilot wasn't designed to detect vehicles in front of it?
I just have the same account on all the family devices and it seems to have worked well so far. How does this offer any difference?
I didn't say those weren't doing anything. They certainly are. You're the one making the case that the driver is driving even when they aren't. If the cruise control had the possibility of accelerating rapidly unless control was taken by the driver immediately I would certainly advocate disabling it. Just as a feature that runs into trucks without giving a warning should be disabled.
So no one should have a problem with Consumer Report's suggestion to disable the Autopilot function then... since it isn't really doing anything for anyone anyway.
That's fine until you're in the family with a death caused that shouldn't have happened. Some people care about that.
It needs clear lane markings, and can only be used in clear weather for one thing. I'm assuming it won't take a risk of passing another vehicle in an oncoming lane which is something dangerous people usually do. If there weren't many situations where it couldn't be used then the driver wouldn't need to have hands on steering wheel at all times.
Still the speed raises another interesting question.. People don't get speeding tickets at 10 above because there are too many atmospheric variables with the tech that the police use to read the speed of your car. But here the logs of the vehicle give the speed of the car without any question... so it's still speeding and should warrant a ticket. In fact, I can see police agencies seizing log data and ticketing accordingly in the future.
Not without enough atmospheric variables thrown in for people to tie them up in court for a long time.
I'll tell you how people will answer.. an airplane autopilot doesn't read street signs so why would a car autopilot?
thousandths.
Yeah but that doesn't mean you aren't speeding. That means that the police lack the technology to really get you within that range. Now Tesla admits it in logs and it is probably to the thousands of a mile per hour. It is still illegal even if it is 'normal'.
Then maybe they shouldn't be logging everything.
Because people around here tend to believe in personal accountability. If the car is driving then deaths become no one's fault?
There was recently an article about the cash piles that the big tech companies have stored up and it is a staggering amount that is a sizable piece of the economy.
They did lose out on the power cord market when they all switched to USB.