Clearly, there is a certain point in human psychology where lack of involvement causes you to lose attention. Manual steering is on one side of the line and Autopilot on the other.
I would consider 'take off' to be 'getting out on the highway', and 'landing' to be 'leaving the highway', so yes, that IS what people expect. The problem is, Tesla Autopilot shits the bed more in between and no one has any control over it when it does.
It's easy to see how it can cause accidents. If it didn't cause accidents, then in the third incident where the car went off the road the driver should have easily been able to take manual control and steer out of it. The problem is AI can't predict when it will be in trouble, only that it IS in trouble and by then it is too late for the driver.
It's impossible to know without knowing how clean the driving records were of the Tesla owners before owning a Tesla. If a driver has gone 30 years without being in an accident and then they buy a Tesla and Autopilot gets them in an accident then it has caused an accident for that driver. It is pointless to talk about statistical generalities while the general population doesn't own a Tesla.
Not interesting? It's easily the most popular communication method at my kids' school. They do instagram etc, but Skype is all they use for conversations.
I'm a dad trying to introduce his kids to linux as well as stretching out old laptops for the family's use. I can tell you that I am absolutely relieved to read this since they talk to all their friends with Skype and this was the one hold back.
Except in the immediate sense Autopilot represents nothing more than a frivolous fancy. Sure 100 years from now IF everyone can obtain it, it may save a significant amount of lives, but I see no evidence in my life that capitalism will ever allow this amount of adoption by making it affordable. On the other hand, planes and automobiles brought a significant amount of freedom and economical advantage and people like Henry Ford did bring it to the masses. I might be more inclined to agree once my government announces a 30% subsidy for everyone to purchase one of these but until then there is no benefit other than maybe convenience if they can make these almost perfect. While there is a steering wheel there isn't even much convenience.
Sure having six months savings is a good rule of thumb, but different shit happens with everyone.. We've had two serious illnesses in our family in the last five years that took us away from work for extended periods. Health coverage didn't cover it all. Everyone has different circumstances and it's hard to put yourself in their shoes.
So when people go to these training sessions, how many times does Tesla indicate in direct language that they may die if they don't pay attention? Obviously that message hasn't gotten across, and so Canada is correct in looking into better or somehow different training.
it's not about growing balls. I imagine I will be in this situation one day, and I know I will take the severance and do the training because I would be subjecting my family to additional financial hardship otherwise. You can say what you want about these people, but when they don't really know how they will support their families afterwards, the family is basically being held hostage for you to perform this training.
The whole point is, people should not be subjected to development curves when it is a life and death situation. There is no way to prove in any given accident whether it would have happened if that human was driving. Vague and dubious statistics are not good enough. People are not able to make the proper decisions for themselves, obviously.
It is a well known fact about human psychology that you *can not* maintain attention on driving if you are not driving yourself. Many automakers have done the studies and come to that conclusion and Google as well. Therefore, everyone who uses Autopilot is entering into a dangerous situation and if they do so, have not been properly informed of the risks.
Doesn't matter. Someone died here. Autopilot needs to drive safely. If it drives as well as a human but no better, why bother paying Tesla for it? Half of all humans are going to be more skilled drivers. Tesla will be causing fatalities for them.
Apparently they did not know about the 'it's probably a toy' comments. All they got was a call for the highest priority possible.
I hear you and it sounds like maybe they weren't quite right in the head. Unless the video I saw was slowed down, there was time for them to yell before they started shooting, also they may have yelled from the car. It's pretty close though.
I have seen the video. The question is what he yelled in the 2 seconds before he started shooting. There was no sound in the video I saw and you couldn't see his mouth clearly.
It depends what cause they had to think there was a danger for themselves and others. As far as they knew it was a crazy man with a gun who might be irritated at the presence of the police. No one is thinking 'Super-sized 12 year old with no parental supervision who has made a toy gun look real'.
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Clearly, there is a certain point in human psychology where lack of involvement causes you to lose attention. Manual steering is on one side of the line and Autopilot on the other.
AI only knows that is IS in trouble, but we need it to know if it will get into trouble.
I would consider 'take off' to be 'getting out on the highway', and 'landing' to be 'leaving the highway', so yes, that IS what people expect. The problem is, Tesla Autopilot shits the bed more in between and no one has any control over it when it does.
It's easy to see how it can cause accidents. If it didn't cause accidents, then in the third incident where the car went off the road the driver should have easily been able to take manual control and steer out of it. The problem is AI can't predict when it will be in trouble, only that it IS in trouble and by then it is too late for the driver.
It's impossible to know without knowing how clean the driving records were of the Tesla owners before owning a Tesla. If a driver has gone 30 years without being in an accident and then they buy a Tesla and Autopilot gets them in an accident then it has caused an accident for that driver. It is pointless to talk about statistical generalities while the general population doesn't own a Tesla.
As long as it works with Ubuntu 14.04 it will work for most.
Not interesting? It's easily the most popular communication method at my kids' school. They do instagram etc, but Skype is all they use for conversations.
Come on now, if the food tasted like it was home made how could they ever expect to automate making it?
I'm a dad trying to introduce his kids to linux as well as stretching out old laptops for the family's use. I can tell you that I am absolutely relieved to read this since they talk to all their friends with Skype and this was the one hold back.
Except in the immediate sense Autopilot represents nothing more than a frivolous fancy. Sure 100 years from now IF everyone can obtain it, it may save a significant amount of lives, but I see no evidence in my life that capitalism will ever allow this amount of adoption by making it affordable. On the other hand, planes and automobiles brought a significant amount of freedom and economical advantage and people like Henry Ford did bring it to the masses. I might be more inclined to agree once my government announces a 30% subsidy for everyone to purchase one of these but until then there is no benefit other than maybe convenience if they can make these almost perfect. While there is a steering wheel there isn't even much convenience.
When they lower the cost for a movie, I'll believe that piracy results in increased costs.
Sure having six months savings is a good rule of thumb, but different shit happens with everyone.. We've had two serious illnesses in our family in the last five years that took us away from work for extended periods. Health coverage didn't cover it all. Everyone has different circumstances and it's hard to put yourself in their shoes.
So when people go to these training sessions, how many times does Tesla indicate in direct language that they may die if they don't pay attention? Obviously that message hasn't gotten across, and so Canada is correct in looking into better or somehow different training.
it's not about growing balls. I imagine I will be in this situation one day, and I know I will take the severance and do the training because I would be subjecting my family to additional financial hardship otherwise. You can say what you want about these people, but when they don't really know how they will support their families afterwards, the family is basically being held hostage for you to perform this training.
The whole point is, people should not be subjected to development curves when it is a life and death situation. There is no way to prove in any given accident whether it would have happened if that human was driving. Vague and dubious statistics are not good enough. People are not able to make the proper decisions for themselves, obviously.
It is a well known fact about human psychology that you *can not* maintain attention on driving if you are not driving yourself. Many automakers have done the studies and come to that conclusion and Google as well. Therefore, everyone who uses Autopilot is entering into a dangerous situation and if they do so, have not been properly informed of the risks.
The problem is that Tesla is pacifying people into using a dangerous product.
Doesn't matter. Someone died here. Autopilot needs to drive safely. If it drives as well as a human but no better, why bother paying Tesla for it? Half of all humans are going to be more skilled drivers. Tesla will be causing fatalities for them.
Apparently they did not know about the 'it's probably a toy' comments. All they got was a call for the highest priority possible. I hear you and it sounds like maybe they weren't quite right in the head. Unless the video I saw was slowed down, there was time for them to yell before they started shooting, also they may have yelled from the car. It's pretty close though.
I have seen the video. The question is what he yelled in the 2 seconds before he started shooting. There was no sound in the video I saw and you couldn't see his mouth clearly.
It depends what cause they had to think there was a danger for themselves and others. As far as they knew it was a crazy man with a gun who might be irritated at the presence of the police. No one is thinking 'Super-sized 12 year old with no parental supervision who has made a toy gun look real'.
Here in Canada they are considering forcing Tesla to hold training for new owners, with yearly follow ups.
To be honest, autonomous vehicles really won't change my life much.
So do we really need Tesla adding to these numbers?
Considering Autopilot only activates on the safest sections of road, three crashes in a month is pretty damn bad.
How many lives has Tesla saved now? Is anyone keeping count??