Don't they have drivers of small motorcycle-like taxis in India that can't even afford the taxi they're driving? How the heck are those going to all be converted to electric? There must me tens of thousands of them.
In 1950, only one parent was working versus two parents, so right there your numbers don't take that into account. When calculating quality of life, I don't really care about 'stuff'. The only stuff that people really need is a house to give them shelter, food, and possibly a vehicle. Already housing has gone up by your numbers. The other things that matter to me in determining quality of life are: proximity to home, proximity to family, available health care, salary, job security, and being in an area where there are things for kids to do in their extra curricular time. People may be spending more on health care but they aren't getting much more for it, as the inefficiency of the system is well known. It also seems like people generally live further away from work and work longer hours, which gives them less time to be with their families and eats into their total compensation. They work these longer hours because they are afraid of losing their jobs. You also don't factor into your salary figures the fact that people spend more time these days looking for a job because jobs are more temporary. If a person has a job for $50k and they get laid off and spend a month looking for another job and then make $50K again, the stats will show $50k a year but they are only making $45k a year. Likewise, if a consultant makes $250/hour but they have to spend another 10 hours a week networking to keep that going then they are really only making $200/hour. Also, how do you calculate the stress that a constantly changing life brings to families? At one time you went to work every day at a factory and you could depend on that job. These days, who knows... the mental cost for families to deal with that through divorce and conflict must be astronomical.
So, so sum it up, you may be happy that you can buy all kinds of stuff for cheap but to me quality of life has more of a human factor that isn't seen in these numbers.
Those job numbers don't tell the whole story. Most of those jobs are for lower pay and/or are less secure than they were in the previous generation. If you think one job from 1950 provides the same quality of life as one job from 2016 then you're dreaming. Politicians like the very statistics you have quoted because they can talk about them and make the economy sound rosy while actually stepping around the fact that it is all about quality of life provided by employment, not employment itself. But you keep thinking the Netflixes, Teslas, Ubers, and Air BnBs of the world are the answer to America's quality of life problems. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
America is so screwed. The more I get into these discussions, the more it becomes apparent that everyone wants someone else to take the cost of what needs to happen to heal America. Especially the capitalist types. That is the exact attitude that is putting America in the toilet. Everyone wants it to be fixed.. by someone else. No one wants anything to change. Everyone wants their take from it. People cannot work together, I get it.
Let's just hope for a quick death to America and for something better to raise from the ashes. This election won't make a difference, nor will any other.
Again, he is all about saying what he wants to do. Talk is cheap. When has Trump ever backed up his ideology with action? What good thing has Trump ever built that was for the greater good, and not about Donald Trump?
Well at a certain point you have to go by personality of the politician. If Trump had stood by the morals that he now professes to have leading up to this election then perhaps I would trust him a bit more. Show me he made any effort to resist hiring H1-Bs like everyone else, any effort at all. Now he expects to sluff it off and claim he is a victim of circumstance. I call bullshit. He never regretted it, and he doesn't regret it now. So this makes one thing he is lying about to the American people, what else is there? Even if he is being honest about his convictions now, then it only proves that he is willing to go with the status quo when push comes to shove and he is nowhere near the creative thinker he professes to be. Everything he says is just another line for shock value and calculated to get attention. I see nothing in his past to lead me to believe he is invested in any of it.
I've already explained that Americans don't have to buy as many products, yet you respond with the same old rhetoric.
America has gone far too long with the attitude that everything is disposable and should be replaced once it ceases to amuse us. Remove the gluttony and greed that goes on and quickly we can have jobs back in America again.
All I can say is that I have personal experience locally of a politician who was hired because he was a "business man". Once he was in office, he was a lame duck. Later it was found out that his friends had gotten contracts and he was benefiting all along. By the time the criminal investigation gained traction it was too late as taxpayer money had been spent. Trump is a very smooth operator, when you find out what he did as president it will similarly be too late.
The problem is Americans will spend additional money on jeans
But at least that is something that we have control over. Sure, maybe when jeans go up to $150 a pear people will continue to buy the same amount. But if they choose to rack up their credit cards and go into debt, or spend their food and rent money on jeans then that is their prerogative. The argument that we should continue to sell out this country so that we can have cheap jeans is getting very tired. It comes down to making some sacrifices now so that our kids can have food and shelter and not starve on the streets later.
Are you familiar with Trump's ego? He doesn't care people call him Hitler, just like he doesn't care what people will say about him when he goes back on his promises and does something completely different. Trust me, his hands are not tied. Not only can he serve himself better as president, but he has enough friends that will still do the dirty work for him from the shadows if it needs doing. He is quite confident that he has all the angles covered.
Trump can't steer foreign trade policy to complement his businesses from his current positions. Seriously? There are all kinds of attention he would get as the President of the United States. A net worth of 2 billion , yeesh when he has the US he'll multiply that and just keep multiplying. I've seen it happen with corrupt politicians first hand.
The role of government is to do what is best for the citizens of that nation. Clearly they are failing. If anything they are helping people from other nations at the expense of their own people.
If businesses are going to move overseas, let them. But don't let them participate in the American market for free, since that just keeps American businesses out of their own back yard. They should be charged for access to the American market. Just enough to balance any advantage they get from moving offshore and make it possible for local startups to compete.
Good thoughts.. the key is that the firms that move offshore should not get free access to the American market. If I make an iPhone app, I have to pay Apple for the right to sell it in their app store. The same should be for companies moving offshore. They can still do business in the US but they have to pay generous taxes for the right to do so. Otherwise they can just give unfair competition to businesses that would otherwise start in the US and sell in the US.
Well, it used to be that if you wanted guaranteed income you worked a traditional job. I wouldn't consider raising a family on a nontraditional job. Don't blame me for seeing my dad go through the same company, being promoted, and thinking I could get that for myself. Now all there is very little traditional and I'd adapted, but not with the same assurances for myself and my family than I had before.
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Really? I haven't seen anything yet that I would classify as non-hype.
Define 'wouldn't be more difficult', keeping in mind we're talking about a profit of pennies an hour running one of these things.
Don't they have drivers of small motorcycle-like taxis in India that can't even afford the taxi they're driving? How the heck are those going to all be converted to electric? There must me tens of thousands of them.
In 1950, only one parent was working versus two parents, so right there your numbers don't take that into account. When calculating quality of life, I don't really care about 'stuff'. The only stuff that people really need is a house to give them shelter, food, and possibly a vehicle. Already housing has gone up by your numbers. The other things that matter to me in determining quality of life are: proximity to home, proximity to family, available health care, salary, job security, and being in an area where there are things for kids to do in their extra curricular time. People may be spending more on health care but they aren't getting much more for it, as the inefficiency of the system is well known. It also seems like people generally live further away from work and work longer hours, which gives them less time to be with their families and eats into their total compensation. They work these longer hours because they are afraid of losing their jobs. You also don't factor into your salary figures the fact that people spend more time these days looking for a job because jobs are more temporary. If a person has a job for $50k and they get laid off and spend a month looking for another job and then make $50K again, the stats will show $50k a year but they are only making $45k a year. Likewise, if a consultant makes $250/hour but they have to spend another 10 hours a week networking to keep that going then they are really only making $200/hour. Also, how do you calculate the stress that a constantly changing life brings to families? At one time you went to work every day at a factory and you could depend on that job. These days, who knows... the mental cost for families to deal with that through divorce and conflict must be astronomical.
So, so sum it up, you may be happy that you can buy all kinds of stuff for cheap but to me quality of life has more of a human factor that isn't seen in these numbers.
Those job numbers don't tell the whole story. Most of those jobs are for lower pay and/or are less secure than they were in the previous generation. If you think one job from 1950 provides the same quality of life as one job from 2016 then you're dreaming. Politicians like the very statistics you have quoted because they can talk about them and make the economy sound rosy while actually stepping around the fact that it is all about quality of life provided by employment, not employment itself. But you keep thinking the Netflixes, Teslas, Ubers, and Air BnBs of the world are the answer to America's quality of life problems. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
America is so screwed. The more I get into these discussions, the more it becomes apparent that everyone wants someone else to take the cost of what needs to happen to heal America. Especially the capitalist types. That is the exact attitude that is putting America in the toilet. Everyone wants it to be fixed.. by someone else. No one wants anything to change. Everyone wants their take from it. People cannot work together, I get it.
Let's just hope for a quick death to America and for something better to raise from the ashes. This election won't make a difference, nor will any other.
Again, he is all about saying what he wants to do. Talk is cheap. When has Trump ever backed up his ideology with action? What good thing has Trump ever built that was for the greater good, and not about Donald Trump?
Ok well, I guess America is screwed then. *shrug*
Well at a certain point you have to go by personality of the politician. If Trump had stood by the morals that he now professes to have leading up to this election then perhaps I would trust him a bit more. Show me he made any effort to resist hiring H1-Bs like everyone else, any effort at all. Now he expects to sluff it off and claim he is a victim of circumstance. I call bullshit. He never regretted it, and he doesn't regret it now. So this makes one thing he is lying about to the American people, what else is there? Even if he is being honest about his convictions now, then it only proves that he is willing to go with the status quo when push comes to shove and he is nowhere near the creative thinker he professes to be. Everything he says is just another line for shock value and calculated to get attention. I see nothing in his past to lead me to believe he is invested in any of it.
I've already explained that Americans don't have to buy as many products, yet you respond with the same old rhetoric.
America has gone far too long with the attitude that everything is disposable and should be replaced once it ceases to amuse us. Remove the gluttony and greed that goes on and quickly we can have jobs back in America again.
All I can say is that I have personal experience locally of a politician who was hired because he was a "business man". Once he was in office, he was a lame duck. Later it was found out that his friends had gotten contracts and he was benefiting all along. By the time the criminal investigation gained traction it was too late as taxpayer money had been spent. Trump is a very smooth operator, when you find out what he did as president it will similarly be too late.
The problem is Americans will spend additional money on jeans
But at least that is something that we have control over. Sure, maybe when jeans go up to $150 a pear people will continue to buy the same amount. But if they choose to rack up their credit cards and go into debt, or spend their food and rent money on jeans then that is their prerogative. The argument that we should continue to sell out this country so that we can have cheap jeans is getting very tired. It comes down to making some sacrifices now so that our kids can have food and shelter and not starve on the streets later.
It's better for Americans to have a job making one pair of jeans every two years then it is for the Chinese to have a job making three pears a year.
Are you familiar with Trump's ego? He doesn't care people call him Hitler, just like he doesn't care what people will say about him when he goes back on his promises and does something completely different. Trust me, his hands are not tied. Not only can he serve himself better as president, but he has enough friends that will still do the dirty work for him from the shadows if it needs doing. He is quite confident that he has all the angles covered.
What happens when that's a large swath of products? What happens when we have to pay twice as much for all that stuff we have made in China now?
Americans go from buying three new pairs of jeans every year to buying a new pair of jeans every two years. Boo hoo.
You are really, really underestimating the drive for 'more'. Men like Trump always want more.
Trump can't steer foreign trade policy to complement his businesses from his current positions. Seriously? There are all kinds of attention he would get as the President of the United States. A net worth of 2 billion , yeesh when he has the US he'll multiply that and just keep multiplying. I've seen it happen with corrupt politicians first hand.
It's all about the connections.
The role of government is to do what is best for the citizens of that nation. Clearly they are failing. If anything they are helping people from other nations at the expense of their own people.
If businesses are going to move overseas, let them. But don't let them participate in the American market for free, since that just keeps American businesses out of their own back yard. They should be charged for access to the American market. Just enough to balance any advantage they get from moving offshore and make it possible for local startups to compete.
Really? What brand of TV is made completely in the US? Is it at Best Buy alongside Samsung and Sony?
Good thoughts.. the key is that the firms that move offshore should not get free access to the American market. If I make an iPhone app, I have to pay Apple for the right to sell it in their app store. The same should be for companies moving offshore. They can still do business in the US but they have to pay generous taxes for the right to do so. Otherwise they can just give unfair competition to businesses that would otherwise start in the US and sell in the US.
Which is exactly what Trump is: a man who can get things done for himself.
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Dictate != Have a feasable plan.
And thank you for proving even further that you just want it to be somebody else's problem. Enough said.
Well, it used to be that if you wanted guaranteed income you worked a traditional job. I wouldn't consider raising a family on a nontraditional job. Don't blame me for seeing my dad go through the same company, being promoted, and thinking I could get that for myself. Now all there is very little traditional and I'd adapted, but not with the same assurances for myself and my family than I had before.