When I read these threads on autonomous vehicles, I see a staggering amount of ignorance on just how brilliant the human mind is. There are so many subtle yet powerful thoughts that guide our actions when driving that people don't even realize.
There are also safety standards in free society. People are only allowed to accept so much risk, usually because the ones they risk the most are other people.
A few years... lol. It will be a few years before they even try them out of the relatively mild climate of California, where most of the biggest traffic issues are going to surface.
From what I see, AI is still producing different results than humans do. When a chess master plays an AI he needs to change his game completely in order to anticipate what an AI would do as opposed to what a human would do. When you're driving in an autonomous car, there is no 'changing the game' because you're not driving. Other people on the road can't be expected to 'change the game' so to speak, so it stands to reason the most difficult thing for AI will be to make it mesh with human expectations.
I'd be surprised if it even dawned on them that hiring H1-B workers was anything other than regular business. They just think American IT workers are assholes and it stops there.
Problems like.. oh there is a sand bag in this double lane that I shouldn't be in, hey (look to the left) that bus is kind of close. I'm just going to stop and wait for it to pass.
There shouldn't be any personal insurance required for an autonomous car. If they are that unreliable, then they're failing the goal of being autonomous.
I think it's really stupid to be asking these questions of people when they aren't even close to being world use yet. First let's make them work in every situation, in every climate in the world, and demonstrate that they are flawless, then release them commercially, then people will come around.
As the technology is right now, they are a long way from safe, people just call things as they see it.
That's interesting.. so in other words, the ultimate goal should have been to survive the fire, with nothing else said. Anyone who survives the fire gets money. From what I read, people were told to follow the robot, and then there was some cheesy simulation of a fire that didn't convince anyone.
I define 'average joe' in this case as someone who doesn't have influence in governmental process over regular democratic voting. ie. if you are a lobbyist who sends millions of dollars in political contributions, then you are not an average joe.
True, or at least they should have to pay a significant premium because by the very definition of an outsourcing company they hire before there is work and then try to find the work. At the point that they hire they cannot demonstrate that there are seats to fill. This is opposite of an in house role, where there is either work not being done or not at the point that they go hire.
Actually, in reading this article.. I wonder how the test was introduced to the subjects. Were they told that the purpose of the test was to pretend that their lives were in danger and act as they would if it were true? Or were they told that the point of the test was to follow the robot. If I am in this test and I am led to believe that the purpose is to follow the robot and I am not absolutely convinced that my life is truly in danger, I am much more likely to follow the original directions.
The problem with that, is the way I understand H-1B, the outsourcing company should have to demonstrate that they have attempted to acquire available domestic workers before hiring H1-Bs, which in a fair market means offering slightly more than the others subject to the laws of supply and demand.
Good point, and especially in a climate where entrenched corporations that already have the advantage of massive boatloads of cash and protected by the government. An entity that is supposed to at least be impartial, but IMHO should be actively protecting citizens' way of life.
Corporations these days don't feel the need to go out of their way to attract employees. They hold out their hands with whatever amount of money they choose and if no one flocks to it they throw up their hands and lobby to the government. They don't see people who are bound to areas because of families, because of financial restrictions, because of life.
Sure, no one owes me a job.. but what is the point of having countries if the way of life in that country is going to be drastically altered every time it doesn't suit a few powerful elite.
If slashdotters' "all about me" attitude is any representation of the attitude in the US, America is screwed. A country has to be able to make some sacrifices and work together. A nation of people who just look out for themselves is a nation that is headed for civil war.
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When I read these threads on autonomous vehicles, I see a staggering amount of ignorance on just how brilliant the human mind is. There are so many subtle yet powerful thoughts that guide our actions when driving that people don't even realize.
There are also safety standards in free society. People are only allowed to accept so much risk, usually because the ones they risk the most are other people.
A few years... lol. It will be a few years before they even try them out of the relatively mild climate of California, where most of the biggest traffic issues are going to surface.
From what I see, AI is still producing different results than humans do. When a chess master plays an AI he needs to change his game completely in order to anticipate what an AI would do as opposed to what a human would do. When you're driving in an autonomous car, there is no 'changing the game' because you're not driving. Other people on the road can't be expected to 'change the game' so to speak, so it stands to reason the most difficult thing for AI will be to make it mesh with human expectations.
Automated landing is complicated, yes, but it has far less variables than driving in city traffic.
I'd be surprised if it even dawned on them that hiring H1-B workers was anything other than regular business. They just think American IT workers are assholes and it stops there.
Problems like.. oh there is a sand bag in this double lane that I shouldn't be in, hey (look to the left) that bus is kind of close. I'm just going to stop and wait for it to pass.
There shouldn't be any personal insurance required for an autonomous car. If they are that unreliable, then they're failing the goal of being autonomous.
I think it's really stupid to be asking these questions of people when they aren't even close to being world use yet. First let's make them work in every situation, in every climate in the world, and demonstrate that they are flawless, then release them commercially, then people will come around.
As the technology is right now, they are a long way from safe, people just call things as they see it.
That's interesting.. so in other words, the ultimate goal should have been to survive the fire, with nothing else said. Anyone who survives the fire gets money. From what I read, people were told to follow the robot, and then there was some cheesy simulation of a fire that didn't convince anyone.
I define 'average joe' in this case as someone who doesn't have influence in governmental process over regular democratic voting. ie. if you are a lobbyist who sends millions of dollars in political contributions, then you are not an average joe.
True, or at least they should have to pay a significant premium because by the very definition of an outsourcing company they hire before there is work and then try to find the work. At the point that they hire they cannot demonstrate that there are seats to fill. This is opposite of an in house role, where there is either work not being done or not at the point that they go hire.
Actually, in reading this article.. I wonder how the test was introduced to the subjects. Were they told that the purpose of the test was to pretend that their lives were in danger and act as they would if it were true? Or were they told that the point of the test was to follow the robot. If I am in this test and I am led to believe that the purpose is to follow the robot and I am not absolutely convinced that my life is truly in danger, I am much more likely to follow the original directions.
Most people are sheep. Can't see how anyone would be surprised about this.
The problem with that, is the way I understand H-1B, the outsourcing company should have to demonstrate that they have attempted to acquire available domestic workers before hiring H1-Bs, which in a fair market means offering slightly more than the others subject to the laws of supply and demand.
Good point, and especially in a climate where entrenched corporations that already have the advantage of massive boatloads of cash and protected by the government. An entity that is supposed to at least be impartial, but IMHO should be actively protecting citizens' way of life.
Well that's the point of AI isn't it? What would a human consider reasonable and how would they resolve the situation safely. Then do that.
People can't feel allegiant to a nation that will sell them out at the drop of a hat.
Corporations these days don't feel the need to go out of their way to attract employees. They hold out their hands with whatever amount of money they choose and if no one flocks to it they throw up their hands and lobby to the government. They don't see people who are bound to areas because of families, because of financial restrictions, because of life.
Sure, no one owes me a job.. but what is the point of having countries if the way of life in that country is going to be drastically altered every time it doesn't suit a few powerful elite.
If slashdotters' "all about me" attitude is any representation of the attitude in the US, America is screwed. A country has to be able to make some sacrifices and work together. A nation of people who just look out for themselves is a nation that is headed for civil war.
Trump is a Republican that is smart enough to know if he placates the people now he can gain infinite profit once in power.
When it comes to the average Joe, America is quickly becoming a vast empty container for other nations values.
You feel it would have been better if the bus swerved away from the car, thus entering the oncoming traffic lane?