Also, then you have to accept other areas where people have found to skirt the laws.. such as murder for hire on Silk Road. Perhaps we should stop hunting for these people and just see what life becomes like if we just let the markets work without regulation.
Fine, but it's still gaming the system. No different than a person who realizes they can live off welfare all their lives. Also they are breaking the law in most juristictions.
But by allowing Uber to exist and perhaps using Uber, you have already been allowed to make your vote. How long do you think I will have to wait to make mine?
There is still a problem with your argument, and here is why it is unfair to compare them to buggy whip makers. The regulations are there because unregulated, things didn't work. There were too many cars on the road, and people got so competitive that there were injuries and deaths from speeding and taking short cuts. Taxis in my area have to have safety shields and emergency lights, and in fact one Uber driver just got attacked; face slammed into the drivers side window and a shield would have helped him. Another driver has lost the family minivan with no coverage or replacement because they had no commercial insurance.
These are not just simply laws that were put in place to help people make a few bucks. These laws are there for valid backreasons and they shaped the industry. As a citizen of a city with cab regulations, not only do I agree with these laws, I feel I have a right to have them protected. I don't have a right to buggy whips, but I do have a right for my legal system to uphold the laws because this does affect me even if I never step in a taxi or an Uber car. As a person that shares the roads, I definitely have a say in this matter and the way it works is through the government because the government is the only representation of the people.
You and Uber are the ones skirting the process and trampling on our rights. Being able to hail rides by phone is only one part of the full service that my city gets. I would like to be convinced that an Uber type service will also not be a step back on all the other requirements before I am willing to budge on taxi laws.
Yup... There's why I migrated to linux. Commercial OS's are no-win. The difference is, every single thing I did on Windows, I do on Linux. On the other hand, Apple forces me to use OS/X for iOS development so the Windows nags don't bother me so much.
The problem is... on one hand you have people who want to make 'a few bucks' doing this. Should they be able to? It's beyond debate that allowing this to happen will harm the livelihoods of a million cab drivers who were told by the government that it was save to sink life savings into it because they were protected by a set of regulations. I just it is a shit deal for all of them, to convert their entire industry into a 'for a few bucks' industry.
Well we shall see how it all pans out. There is a person in Canada who is trying to sue Uber because they got into an accident with their minivan and it was a total write-off and the insurance company wouldn't pay for it due to commercial use. As more of these happen it is hard to see how 'a few dollars' here and there is going to cover it.
They're not trying to force all jobs into one mould. They're just trying to keep them safe and fair for the employee.
Count me as a person who went almost all linux. I was going to make an honest effort on Windows 10 but all the telemetry stuff made me see that there is no longer any commercial OS that won't try in some way to contact the mother ship.
Personally I'd prefer to have technology companies that try to do more with technology and succeed at some of it and fail on other bits of it, as opposed to companies like Apple that just find a huge market segment with minimum requirements and only ever focus on that. The company that 'tries to do too much' will always have the devices that are more interesting to me and more worth my money.
Walled garden or not, I could do without all the nagging I get on OSX to:
- Sign into icloud
- Upgrade iTunes
- Upgrade the OS
I mean is there any way I could just get some small security upgrades to Mavericks without upgrading the entire OS? Why do I have to keep going into the control panel and saying 'no I don't want to use iCloud ever' for every single user on the laptop and why doesn't this setting STAY OFF? Same with the setting to restart applications after login.
There doesn't seem to be a setting that says 'no I don't want to use these things EVER and I don't want upgrades, I just want patches'. This is what I consider to be the walled garden.
Sure, a company that doesn't have to follow laws can easily move into any market segment can't it? I mean, it could start manufacturing some medications and skip all the pesky drug restrictions that ratchet up the price for everyone else.
The problem is, these companies are purposely targeting people who make bad choices. That is a big important part of this 'new economy'. They're basically giving a big 'screw you' to people who would like a job on an even, fair playing field because enough people have now lost their houses, and are desperate enough to do the job. This has an effect on everyone because it allows companies to take advantage of people in desperate situations, which means good job opportunities will be ever more in short supply.
It is basically threatening to make everything a part time job, including many jobs that are traditional today.
The difference is, at my wealth demographi l, I didn't go to school with kids who wore 'name brand' stuff. In fact clothes were rarely discussed at all. Now my kids are at the same level of wealth that I am perhaps a little less wealthy, and all their friends have phones and judging by how they imessage each other, they are mostly ios.
it's imessage that is the thing. Not sure why imessage is so popular over Skype, sms, or any of the other messaging apps that come out weekly but that is how all the kids communicate where I am. So with that population of kids comes profit for games.
I don't think it is forcing companies to 'hand out' benefits to employees so much as that employee should be able to *afford* benefits if the company is not 'handing them out'.
I can't believe anyone would choose an Uber-type job if they were eligible in any way for a 9-5 job. People take Uber jobs because they either can't find alternative employment or they can't hack it in a standard job interview.
Maybe all these hacks weren't related to mobile devices, but I'm really surprised anyone would use their mobile phone for banking until there are none of these kinds of issues.
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I'm wondering what better thing they will replace p2p with if it goes away. Perhaps something utilizing TOR.
They will be prosecuted, I'm assuming. Too many municipalities where there are clear restrictions for taxi services.
Also, then you have to accept other areas where people have found to skirt the laws.. such as murder for hire on Silk Road. Perhaps we should stop hunting for these people and just see what life becomes like if we just let the markets work without regulation.
Fine, but it's still gaming the system. No different than a person who realizes they can live off welfare all their lives. Also they are breaking the law in most juristictions.
Ok so let me get this straight. Uber is willing to stop doing business until I talk with my elected representatives? I think you are dreaming.
To be fair, you didn't even grant us the dignity of waiting for a vote to be called. You just went ahead and tread on our world.
But by allowing Uber to exist and perhaps using Uber, you have already been allowed to make your vote. How long do you think I will have to wait to make mine?
There is still a problem with your argument, and here is why it is unfair to compare them to buggy whip makers. The regulations are there because unregulated, things didn't work. There were too many cars on the road, and people got so competitive that there were injuries and deaths from speeding and taking short cuts. Taxis in my area have to have safety shields and emergency lights, and in fact one Uber driver just got attacked; face slammed into the drivers side window and a shield would have helped him. Another driver has lost the family minivan with no coverage or replacement because they had no commercial insurance.
These are not just simply laws that were put in place to help people make a few bucks. These laws are there for valid backreasons and they shaped the industry. As a citizen of a city with cab regulations, not only do I agree with these laws, I feel I have a right to have them protected. I don't have a right to buggy whips, but I do have a right for my legal system to uphold the laws because this does affect me even if I never step in a taxi or an Uber car. As a person that shares the roads, I definitely have a say in this matter and the way it works is through the government because the government is the only representation of the people.
You and Uber are the ones skirting the process and trampling on our rights. Being able to hail rides by phone is only one part of the full service that my city gets. I would like to be convinced that an Uber type service will also not be a step back on all the other requirements before I am willing to budge on taxi laws.
Yup... There's why I migrated to linux. Commercial OS's are no-win. The difference is, every single thing I did on Windows, I do on Linux. On the other hand, Apple forces me to use OS/X for iOS development so the Windows nags don't bother me so much.
The problem is... on one hand you have people who want to make 'a few bucks' doing this. Should they be able to? It's beyond debate that allowing this to happen will harm the livelihoods of a million cab drivers who were told by the government that it was save to sink life savings into it because they were protected by a set of regulations. I just it is a shit deal for all of them, to convert their entire industry into a 'for a few bucks' industry.
Well we shall see how it all pans out. There is a person in Canada who is trying to sue Uber because they got into an accident with their minivan and it was a total write-off and the insurance company wouldn't pay for it due to commercial use. As more of these happen it is hard to see how 'a few dollars' here and there is going to cover it.
They're not trying to force all jobs into one mould. They're just trying to keep them safe and fair for the employee.
Count me as a person who went almost all linux. I was going to make an honest effort on Windows 10 but all the telemetry stuff made me see that there is no longer any commercial OS that won't try in some way to contact the mother ship.
Has Apple ever given assurances that their employees with access to iCloud storage aren't spying on everything in there?
Personally I'd prefer to have technology companies that try to do more with technology and succeed at some of it and fail on other bits of it, as opposed to companies like Apple that just find a huge market segment with minimum requirements and only ever focus on that. The company that 'tries to do too much' will always have the devices that are more interesting to me and more worth my money.
Walled garden or not, I could do without all the nagging I get on OSX to:
- Sign into icloud
- Upgrade iTunes
- Upgrade the OS
I mean is there any way I could just get some small security upgrades to Mavericks without upgrading the entire OS? Why do I have to keep going into the control panel and saying 'no I don't want to use iCloud ever' for every single user on the laptop and why doesn't this setting STAY OFF? Same with the setting to restart applications after login.
There doesn't seem to be a setting that says 'no I don't want to use these things EVER and I don't want upgrades, I just want patches'. This is what I consider to be the walled garden.
Im waiting for them to start producing medications. Imagine all the overhead they can save on that, not having to follow government regulations.
Sure, a company that doesn't have to follow laws can easily move into any market segment can't it? I mean, it could start manufacturing some medications and skip all the pesky drug restrictions that ratchet up the price for everyone else.
The problem is, these companies are purposely targeting people who make bad choices. That is a big important part of this 'new economy'. They're basically giving a big 'screw you' to people who would like a job on an even, fair playing field because enough people have now lost their houses, and are desperate enough to do the job. This has an effect on everyone because it allows companies to take advantage of people in desperate situations, which means good job opportunities will be ever more in short supply.
It is basically threatening to make everything a part time job, including many jobs that are traditional today.
The difference is, at my wealth demographi l, I didn't go to school with kids who wore 'name brand' stuff. In fact clothes were rarely discussed at all. Now my kids are at the same level of wealth that I am perhaps a little less wealthy, and all their friends have phones and judging by how they imessage each other, they are mostly ios.
it's imessage that is the thing. Not sure why imessage is so popular over Skype, sms, or any of the other messaging apps that come out weekly but that is how all the kids communicate where I am. So with that population of kids comes profit for games.
Right but the conversation is about benefits, and the practicality of doing *only* an uber type job or jobs.
I don't think it is forcing companies to 'hand out' benefits to employees so much as that employee should be able to *afford* benefits if the company is not 'handing them out'.
I can't believe anyone would choose an Uber-type job if they were eligible in any way for a 9-5 job. People take Uber jobs because they either can't find alternative employment or they can't hack it in a standard job interview.
It's like being self insured without actually making enough money to afford insurance! How awesome is that?!?
Maybe all these hacks weren't related to mobile devices, but I'm really surprised anyone would use their mobile phone for banking until there are none of these kinds of issues.