"Israel has tried but the Palestinians keep killing them, or trying."
And Palestine has tried but the Israelis keep up their bombing, taking more and more of their land, taking their crops, killing their children, cutting electricity, water, causing extreme numbers of dead and maimed, etc, and you're trying to tell me that's justified?
Not sure it applies to WWs, but I always call the more powerful the bully, especially when they're extremely more powerful, like in the cases of the US or Israel, China in Tibet, etc
"The reason to fear them is they are currently attracting a motley crew of psychopaths who think taking out an entire city is something that will assure them their 72 virgins in the afterlife, herald in a new world-order ruled mechanistically by an Allah who is so other that anything you can say about him, he is not (Islamic theocratic idea)"
I don't know about that but what they say is it's because they want a country that isn't run by foreign sponsored puppets and dictators and where it doesn't rain bombs.
" to actually defeat terrorists, you have to kill them faster than terror organizations can create new terrorists "
That's never worked, didn't in Iraq, didn't in Afghanistan, won't here. Helping democracy grow is a long term process, especially after a population 's been bombed, profiteered, and overall, alienated.
" and to dry up their financial support "
First I think you need to look at why is it so easy for them to get so much financial support.
"Clinton aides stripped the markings that indicated that the material was SCI before sending it through the server"
Can you give me a link on who did the stripping, how they know, and what kind of marking was it that made it 'strippable'
"That doesn't change the fact that the material was still SCI, even without the markings"
Well obviously
"the server was still illegal because it was set up in the first place to evade FOIA"
Really? Illegal as in a court ruling? Any link?
"make it easier for her to illicitly fund her political operation through the Clinton Foundation"
Speculation on your part?
"They were 100% SCI when they arrived on her sever."
Yeah, at some point before she received them the SCI designation was removed.
"Except there are claims the markings were removed prior to them getting to Clinton"
But the claims don't seem to have reasonable support. And claims can be a dime a dozen.
"Idiot"
No, you! :)
Nah, I'd be surprised if that's what's getting into people's bonnet. Probably not that many people too.
Not sure, my comment made sense.
Also not sure that ST is testable or that it makes testable predictions.
"The big bang theory isn't testable"
Is it about making 'testable predictions' or about being testable
"Given the oceans have 1000x the heat capacity of the atmosphere, the idea that the latter is driving the former is kind-of laughable"
Yeah, right, kind of.
Not.
"Israel has tried but the Palestinians keep killing them, or trying."
And Palestine has tried but the Israelis keep up their bombing, taking more and more of their land, taking their crops, killing their children, cutting electricity, water, causing extreme numbers of dead and maimed, etc, and you're trying to tell me that's justified?
tl;dr
I though you said the debate was over.
"When one group of people stops killing people, the other group stops killing them"
So like if Israel stops killing Palestinians, Palestinian's will stop killing Israelis?
But of course you don't mean that. It's just your choice of words.
"So you're admitting you don't actually understand"
LoL, only as much as the following :
"If they stopped killing people we'd probably leave 'em alone"
"I don't have a debate for emotions and irrational conclusions"
Yeah, right, a debate ;)
Not sure it applies to WWs, but I always call the more powerful the bully, especially when they're extremely more powerful, like in the cases of the US or Israel, China in Tibet, etc
"but is there any evidence that watching TV lowers IQ?"
Maybe it's more about what some people are not doing, activity wise and emotionally, and are watching TV instead (or have it on in the 'background')
"watching TV lowers IQ? I would suspect that the causation is the other way around"
Why?
Ah yes, the bully's "he started it first" sad attempt at self justification
"The reason to fear them is they are currently attracting a motley crew of psychopaths who think taking out an entire city is something that will assure them their 72 virgins in the afterlife, herald in a new world-order ruled mechanistically by an Allah who is so other that anything you can say about him, he is not (Islamic theocratic idea)"
I don't know about that but what they say is it's because they want a country that isn't run by foreign sponsored puppets and dictators and where it doesn't rain bombs.
add to your list: "or were actually marginalized\disenfranchised to the extreme"
"No one makes a point of saying "suicide bombing is terrorism""
Of course they do. In other words your heuristic "people who say ..." is not useful
Do you mean terrorism doesn't exist
"Well yeah, it's an old song and dance written in the "How to be an effective dictator" book used the world over"
But that doesn't say a thing about what is going on in this case
"Maybe northern Europeans just have a strong, resilient culture?"
Maybe that *and* the US has made messes in South America like peer reviewed research shows
"Latin America has been a disaster since the Spaniards first set foot on it. The US may not have helped"
Not *may not have helped* but *made things worse*
"let us be frank much of the region would be a mess US or no"
Lets be frank about what
Yeah, various perspectives are informative
How many civilians have been turned into "collateral damage" by US and allied forces in the middle east over past decades.
Point taken.
But if you include the quotes with "charged with plotting" it returns 200,000 results, not 10,500,000
" to actually defeat terrorists, you have to kill them faster than terror organizations can create new terrorists "
That's never worked, didn't in Iraq, didn't in Afghanistan, won't here. Helping democracy grow is a long term process, especially after a population 's been bombed, profiteered, and overall, alienated.
" and to dry up their financial support "
First I think you need to look at why is it so easy for them to get so much financial support.
Excellent, well done,
"(if you're getting massively overprescribed by a pill mill, it's a situation you've gone out of your way to get to)"
except for that last sentence. As right you are elsewhere, your as wrong here.