While I love this decision also, I find it sad that we now applaud people who want to take care of their customers... Didn't that used to be a given?
Speaking as someone that handles consumer's problems - you are correct. There's nothing I hate more than hearing "Sorry for your inconvenience." - especially from airline employees!
Oh yeah! How about, the next time you're on strike and bitching about how you're not making enough, I walk up to you and say, "Sorry about the inconvenience!"
Here's the thing, with this shitty economy, companies are seeing the light! Amen! They're paying attention to customers. Just walk into a Home Depot now. I got asked 4 times if I found what I'm looking for! Now, they're pissing me off for being so helpful. Talk about the pendulum swinging!
P.S. To you Aladrin: I see that big orange ball by your userID. For what it's worth, whatever I said, I meant nothing personal, but I stand by my opinions. I take responsibility for what I've said that has offended you. Judge me as you will.
At least this is better than some of the random blue laws on the books that you see, especially in some Southern and Mid-Western states. Things like, It is illegal to ride your Donkey down a state maintained road unless traveling at the proper speed limit
Whenever I see "At least..." in one's argument, I become a little wary. It just seams that many of the most restrictive laws are a culmination of laws and arguments that start off with "At least it is not..."
The ability to see into the ultraviolet spectrum would be great. Of course, seeing all the bodily fluid stains that people had THOUGHT they cleaned up might be a bit disgusting.
I like your idea. It would be a great way to find women or men, whatever floats one's boat, that do things that you're into without the awkwardness of beating around the bush to find out if they are.
My understanding (I'm not a lawyer) is that taxing interstate commerce is prohibited by the constitution (the root of all US law).
Of course you're not. No one is. Everyone on the internet isn't qualified to make any opinions because if we were, we wouldn't be giving them away for free online: we'd be paid big bucks for our knowledgeable opinion and wouldn't be here.
I'm just tired of reading the qualifiers. Even if you were, it wouldn't matter. For example, in my business law class, a classmate brought in his employment agreement that his new employer wanted him to sign. The lawyer looked at it and said, "Sign it and forget about it. It isn't enforceable in this state." Then the lawyer said, "Some companies have their general council write these things for all of their offices when what they write may be legal in their state, but it isn't in others. When seeking legal advice, only use a lawyer that is a member of the BAR in your state."
That's just where I'm coming from. Unless you're a member of the BAR in my state, I will take whatever you say with a grain of salt - and that includes all of you who are actually lawyers.
Ok...so which state will the taxes be going to? The state in which the business operates out of, or the state in which the purchase was made in, or both?
What?!? You expect a simple solution from the politicians?!
It'll probably be a complex formula that depends on: the card holder's state of residence, where the items were shipped, where the company does business, whether or not the person makes over $250,000 per year, which states the item passes through when it goes from the retailer to the purchaser, and I'm sure some lobbyist will make some other horse shit that I'd never think of in a million years.
True. Many times space engineers are inspired by SCi-Fi authors. Don't forget, many of those authors have had scientific and engineering training. Heinlein had a few degrees in that area- IIRC.
TFA just says Florida, but where in Florida? It's been a while since I lived there, but pretty much everything below the pan handle is already just one big city with the Glades breaking things up.
Maybe in the middle of the pan handle where I-10 cuts through to go from Tallahassee to Jacksonville? There seems to be a lot of open land there, but that's just what I've seen from the interstate.
Unless they use eminent domain or some other legal BS, the land itself will be a fortune. I see this "plan" dieing quietly.
Yes they do. People HAVE died from taking sports to extremes. Long distance runners who die from exhaustion or getting lost. Weight lifters who are crushed under weights. What about racers who go just a bit to fast? Taking the sport to extremes, same as gaming for 18 hours is extreem.
Golfers who have been killed by their wives for never being around, bowlers and softball players die of cirrhosis of the liver (the drink more than they play!), hunters who are shot by Vice Presidents, and then there's the tiddlywink players who are just killed for being sissies.
Please stop responding to SPAM. If no one responds to it, then they won't make any money and they'll stop.
Sincerely,
A. Bettik
Can you actually respond to them?
I once got a spam email and I was in a really pissed off mood and wanted to take it out on someone who deserved it, so I tried to contact the spammer. The email they included didn't work. There wasn't any phone number. I couldn't find any way of contacting them. I can't believe some of those morons actually make any money.
Sometimes, I wonder if it's the ISPs that host those assholes that are pushing this shit. Maybe convincing stupid people that they can get rich sending mass electronic marketing or some other made up buzz word that obfuscates the fact that they are selling you a spammer package. Moron spammer buys it, sends out a bunch of emails, and then gives up after a while; only to have another moron take his place? Just guessing.
Listen, you have every fucker on Earth gunning for Vista to "prove" how stupid Microsoft is and what not - so you HAVE to build an OS to fight that horse shit. In the meantime, OS X and Linux developers are sitting back being arrogant that no one can break them. (Riiiight.) Meaning, they are NOT doing anything as proactive as MS in fighting hackers. At least I've never seen it.
No sir, my money IS on Vista.
Yep, go ahead and mod me down. I firmly believe what I just said and I REFUSE to to say something else just to appease the goddamn MS haters here.
"India is constantly weeding out the "dumb" folks"
I work with programmers based out of India. Some of them are so dumb they can't spell their own name (no, thats not an exaggeration, that really happened to me today), the best of them have trouble following basic instructions or answering the question you ask them instead of talking about something else entirely.
I don't doubt that. I'm just saying, it's really hard for some of us now.
How old are you? I'm in my mid-forties and I've been having a horrible time. It's all about recent experience in - long list of tech.
I almost became an accountant. I really really wish I did.
Maybe you just need to move, or move to a different industry. Most of the folks I know who are good at their jobs in the coding field are gainfully employed.
How do you move when all you've ever done was code? Employers just see "coder" on our resume.
BTW, are all of those folks you know below 40 years of age? That was a rhetorical question.
The time where 'doing HTML' (and CSS) was enough to give you a decent career is over imo.
Aside from very specialized work or defense contracting, I think that's becoming true of all coding. More and more of it, especially the business development is going overseas or is being replaced by newer types of technology - see BPEL. Who needs a programmer when the accounting department can just draw their process and have something implement it.
And as far as those tools are concerned, you have the very rare CS person design those things and then have the overseas guys code that thing. Even then, all those CS folks that the developing countries are paying to be trained out of the tax dollars, will be able to design and develop their own systems cutting out us in the developed World. India is constantly weeding out the "dumb" folks and sending the smart ones to IIT or over here to study. Which means those of us who are average will be SOL.
There's no more room for average or above average folks anymore in the Globalized World. You are either exceptional or you're working at Walmart. I think the skilled trades are going to have a renaissance in popularity in a few years - that will be one of the few places where a young person will have a future. No wonder parents today are so concerned about their kids and hover around them!
Yes, I am extremely pessimistic about our futures.
You forgot to add that the money that the banks has is from depositors. Yes, some of those deposits are money from loans. But many of those deposits are from folks who actually saved their money.
No wonder folks hate the Fed - they have no idea what it does.
Anyone expecting privacy on these systems is a fool. It's not like either of these companies is regulated in any way, to say nothing of the fact they provide their services over the Internet which you only have read/. for a day to know is not secure.
Exactly. The same goes for traditional cell service. Why just the other day, I was in the grocery store and someone was yacking
away about some big business deal in the bread isle. I sat there "shopping" while this guy was talking about financing, etc, etc, etc...
Then, I moved over to the soda isle, this young chicky apparently was having boyfriend troubles and I offered to help but she got all indignant and looks at me like I was a perv or something.
Then, over in the fish isle, this middle aged guy was trying to figure out if he should get the Salmon or the Trout and asking his wife, I think, which should he get. I told him the Trout. Great stuff. Again the funny looks! I don't get it?
The bread isle, this person was pushing their cart talking away and I answered - god I hate those blue tooths! Same thing - weird looks!
I won't tell you about the guy on the street talking really loudly but without and Bluetooth or Cell - he asked me for money.
What was this again about privacy and phone calls? I forgot what we're talking about.
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Yep, pretty much. What's your point?
While I love this decision also, I find it sad that we now applaud people who want to take care of their customers... Didn't that used to be a given?
Speaking as someone that handles consumer's problems - you are correct. There's nothing I hate more than hearing "Sorry for your inconvenience." - especially from airline employees!
Oh yeah! How about, the next time you're on strike and bitching about how you're not making enough, I walk up to you and say, "Sorry about the inconvenience!"
Here's the thing, with this shitty economy, companies are seeing the light! Amen! They're paying attention to customers. Just walk into a Home Depot now. I got asked 4 times if I found what I'm looking for! Now, they're pissing me off for being so helpful. Talk about the pendulum swinging!
P.S. To you Aladrin: I see that big orange ball by your userID. For what it's worth, whatever I said, I meant nothing personal, but I stand by my opinions. I take responsibility for what I've said that has offended you. Judge me as you will.
All I know is some computer languages have the philosophy of "job security". Examples: Perl and .... um, yeah....
At least this is better than some of the random blue laws on the books that you see, especially in some Southern and Mid-Western states. Things like, It is illegal to ride your Donkey down a state maintained road unless traveling at the proper speed limit
Whenever I see "At least..." in one's argument, I become a little wary. It just seams that many of the most restrictive laws are a culmination of laws and arguments that start off with "At least it is not ..."
The ability to see into the ultraviolet spectrum would be great. Of course, seeing all the bodily fluid stains that people had THOUGHT they cleaned up might be a bit disgusting.
I like your idea. It would be a great way to find women or men, whatever floats one's boat, that do things that you're into without the awkwardness of beating around the bush to find out if they are.
I'm thinking of a Fast Array of Gigabyte Systems or "FAGS" as opposed to FAWN.
Imagine talking to your admin in front of PC type of folks,
"Hey Lou, you did you get those new FAGS? That last ones broke down and were a real pain in the ass!"
"No Joe, we still have those old FAGS. The holes in those things were so big, anything could get in."
"Yeah, I know it. They were pigs too. Some of the fuses went. Things really got blown!"
"I tell ya! I tell ya! Hey, how are the boys in San Fransisco? I heard the FAGS vendor is really sticking it up their asses."
"Sort of. They were happy with their shot and reciprocated on the terms."
"Ah, good."
My understanding (I'm not a lawyer) is that taxing interstate commerce is prohibited by the constitution (the root of all US law).
Of course you're not. No one is. Everyone on the internet isn't qualified to make any opinions because if we were, we wouldn't be giving them away for free online: we'd be paid big bucks for our knowledgeable opinion and wouldn't be here.
I'm just tired of reading the qualifiers. Even if you were, it wouldn't matter. For example, in my business law class, a classmate brought in his employment agreement that his new employer wanted him to sign. The lawyer looked at it and said, "Sign it and forget about it. It isn't enforceable in this state." Then the lawyer said, "Some companies have their general council write these things for all of their offices when what they write may be legal in their state, but it isn't in others. When seeking legal advice, only use a lawyer that is a member of the BAR in your state."
That's just where I'm coming from. Unless you're a member of the BAR in my state, I will take whatever you say with a grain of salt - and that includes all of you who are actually lawyers.
Ok...so which state will the taxes be going to? The state in which the business operates out of, or the state in which the purchase was made in, or both?
What?!? You expect a simple solution from the politicians?!
It'll probably be a complex formula that depends on: the card holder's state of residence, where the items were shipped, where the company does business, whether or not the person makes over $250,000 per year, which states the item passes through when it goes from the retailer to the purchaser, and I'm sure some lobbyist will make some other horse shit that I'd never think of in a million years.
You wipper snappers! In my day, everything had to be named Enterprise - and we liked it!
True. Many times space engineers are inspired by SCi-Fi authors. Don't forget, many of those authors have had scientific and engineering training. Heinlein had a few degrees in that area- IIRC.
Maybe in the middle of the pan handle where I-10 cuts through to go from Tallahassee to Jacksonville? There seems to be a lot of open land there, but that's just what I've seen from the interstate.
Unless they use eminent domain or some other legal BS, the land itself will be a fortune. I see this "plan" dieing quietly.
Yes they do. People HAVE died from taking sports to extremes. Long distance runners who die from exhaustion or getting lost. Weight lifters who are crushed under weights. What about racers who go just a bit to fast? Taking the sport to extremes, same as gaming for 18 hours is extreem.
Golfers who have been killed by their wives for never being around, bowlers and softball players die of cirrhosis of the liver (the drink more than they play!), hunters who are shot by Vice Presidents, and then there's the tiddlywink players who are just killed for being sissies.
All sports can be rough!
Hey, that's what an ex-girlfriend of mine called it: her nano-tube. Bitch. Oh, carbon nano-tubes.....gotta hit Cancel.
Please stop responding to SPAM. If no one responds to it, then they won't make any money and they'll stop. Sincerely, A. Bettik
Can you actually respond to them? I once got a spam email and I was in a really pissed off mood and wanted to take it out on someone who deserved it, so I tried to contact the spammer. The email they included didn't work. There wasn't any phone number. I couldn't find any way of contacting them. I can't believe some of those morons actually make any money. Sometimes, I wonder if it's the ISPs that host those assholes that are pushing this shit. Maybe convincing stupid people that they can get rich sending mass electronic marketing or some other made up buzz word that obfuscates the fact that they are selling you a spammer package. Moron spammer buys it, sends out a bunch of emails, and then gives up after a while; only to have another moron take his place? Just guessing.
No sir, my money IS on Vista.
Yep, go ahead and mod me down. I firmly believe what I just said and I REFUSE to to say something else just to appease the goddamn MS haters here.
"India is constantly weeding out the "dumb" folks"
I work with programmers based out of India. Some of them are so dumb they can't spell their own name (no, thats not an exaggeration, that really happened to me today), the best of them have trouble following basic instructions or answering the question you ask them instead of talking about something else entirely.
I don't doubt that. I'm just saying, it's really hard for some of us now.
How old are you? I'm in my mid-forties and I've been having a horrible time. It's all about recent experience in - long list of tech.
I almost became an accountant. I really really wish I did.
Maybe you just need to move, or move to a different industry. Most of the folks I know who are good at their jobs in the coding field are gainfully employed.
How do you move when all you've ever done was code? Employers just see "coder" on our resume.
BTW, are all of those folks you know below 40 years of age? That was a rhetorical question.
Please! The metal and parts were bought at Best Buy! The clerk promised that it will be protected for the whole 10,000 years! How can they lose!
Ha!
You thought "Linux" - didn't you?!?!
The time where 'doing HTML' (and CSS) was enough to give you a decent career is over imo.
Aside from very specialized work or defense contracting, I think that's becoming true of all coding. More and more of it, especially the business development is going overseas or is being replaced by newer types of technology - see BPEL. Who needs a programmer when the accounting department can just draw their process and have something implement it.
And as far as those tools are concerned, you have the very rare CS person design those things and then have the overseas guys code that thing. Even then, all those CS folks that the developing countries are paying to be trained out of the tax dollars, will be able to design and develop their own systems cutting out us in the developed World. India is constantly weeding out the "dumb" folks and sending the smart ones to IIT or over here to study. Which means those of us who are average will be SOL.
There's no more room for average or above average folks anymore in the Globalized World. You are either exceptional or you're working at Walmart. I think the skilled trades are going to have a renaissance in popularity in a few years - that will be one of the few places where a young person will have a future. No wonder parents today are so concerned about their kids and hover around them!
Yes, I am extremely pessimistic about our futures.
I still do because I'm too cheap to buy software and too lazy to look for a F/OSS package.
But really, in a production (i.e. being paid to do it) environment actually code by hand??
This is a horrible idea. What happens when the beamer is hit by a micro meteor nocking out the com and pointing the sat at SF?
It turns everyone gay?
No wonder folks hate the Fed - they have no idea what it does.
Or, we could call it what everyone else is calling it. Grid computing or sometimes cloud computing.
Or, we just call it what the old timers originally called it: time sharing.
It fits. Just because it's over the internet as opposed to dedicated lines, I don't see why we need new terminology for basically the same thing.
Anyone expecting privacy on these systems is a fool. It's not like either of these companies is regulated in any way, to say nothing of the fact they provide their services over the Internet which you only have read /. for a day to know is not secure.
Exactly. The same goes for traditional cell service. Why just the other day, I was in the grocery store and someone was yacking away about some big business deal in the bread isle. I sat there "shopping" while this guy was talking about financing, etc, etc, etc...
Then, I moved over to the soda isle, this young chicky apparently was having boyfriend troubles and I offered to help but she got all indignant and looks at me like I was a perv or something.
Then, over in the fish isle, this middle aged guy was trying to figure out if he should get the Salmon or the Trout and asking his wife, I think, which should he get. I told him the Trout. Great stuff. Again the funny looks! I don't get it?
The bread isle, this person was pushing their cart talking away and I answered - god I hate those blue tooths! Same thing - weird looks!
I won't tell you about the guy on the street talking really loudly but without and Bluetooth or Cell - he asked me for money.
What was this again about privacy and phone calls? I forgot what we're talking about.