I knew this story would be on here, knew it'd have more comments than any other story and that a ton of them would say "This isn't news for nerds." Because the supposed non-/. stories always get a crapload of comments. That's probably why they go up; it's well-known that topics like these will garner the most attention, and we prove it time-after-time.
I don't have a problem with it being up myself (it's important, even if it's not tech-y), but if anyone else does, just don't comment and give it attention/hits. I dunno, seems logical to me.
Now I'm picturing Curiosity roaming around, singing, "On planet Mars, I feel safest of all, no more humans around, and I get to shoot rocks, on Mars..."
Don't you love it when a new, wonderful and advance in science is reduced to "YEA! Now we can get even with the wimmins for all those RIGHTS they have!" with these guys? It's not about, "Nice, now I can control what my body does and what it WON'T do, preventing unwanted pregnancies." No. It's an immediate, ill-perceived tool of revenge.
I'm just gonna say it, cos' I've had it: to those guys, with all your accusations and revenge tactics? We don't want to be pregnant with your kid. Sorry to disappoint, but we're not all lining up for your DNA like you think we are. It's like being scared of a gay guy cos' he's gonna check you out--the assumption that you're worth being checked-out makes most of them laugh.
I don't see how my saying that a man should support his child means that I think total absolutes about women getting everything they want with no accountability. I'm honestly trying to find the words to say to this, because I'd said I wasn't going to say anything else (I've raped this topic comments-wise today), so I want to make everything clear in these "final words". Or what I HOPE are final...
Never once have I said anything about women getting everything and men getting nothing, but that doesn't seem to matter; to some men, it seems that anytime someone brings up a disadvantage in the 'Woman's World', they jump up and start pointing fingers, saying "we have it bad, too!" What's funny is that while I have a small feminist side, I see the bullshit that goes on on my side of the court. I could give examples, but I've been too wordy already. Fact is, I try my best to be a reasonable, well-rounded and deep-thinking individual. I can shoot off the mouth and be opinionated, but if no one did that, there wouldn't be anything interesting on the internet.
We DO have a little more responsibility. And in a lot of cases, that's what fucks us up the ass without the benny of a reach-around. We're damned if we do, damned if we don't. If you're a pregnant teenager, some schools will try to bar you from attending but let the baby-daddy (gah, hate using that, but it seems right here, dunno why) roam the halls without repercussion. If we choose to abort when the man doesn't want us to, we're baby-killing bitches. If we choose to keep the baby, we're money-hungry bitches. If we choose to not have sex on the first or second date, we're labelled prudes. If we DO have sex on the first or second date, we're sluts. We do have options, and we DON'T have options, simply because we can be vilified for any one of them. Saying this, I'm not trying to play the tearful, "WOE IS ME, I'M A WOMAN!" card, it is what it is. How do we win? Give the man the decision entirely? Compromise, when it's already too hot to touch? What about the families on both sides, do they have a say? I DO side with women on this issue a little more, yes, because the products of both abortion and pregnancy will stay with her forever. I know the latter well; I had to have a c-section, because my son was born at 11.6 pounds, no lie. I've never recovered from it, even when I joined a gym and went through serious fitness and dieting routines. I'd never take it back, however. All this doesn't mean the man doesn't get a say in what happens, but it IS hard to say how it's finalized, as yes, the woman is the most affected. Sorry... you might not like it as a man, but it's just fact. Sometimes I don't like it either, because I'm a person who wants to be completely impartial, even in things like this. But I always keep coming back to the "who's affected the most by this?" point.
The best solution is what a lot of men (and some women) do not want to hear: this can allllll be avoided in NOT having sex with someone on the first, second or even third date. This goes for both sexes. If Jane and Joe have sex on the first date and Jane gets pregnant, neither one of them can bitch about the decisions being made on either side, whether or not the woman's insisting on it being her way. If Jane got to know Joe, she'd learn he didn't want kids and would want an abortion be done and nothing but. If Joe got to know Jane, he'd learn that she didn't want an abortion, even if it was with some guy she just met. Would this seriously kill anyone? I'm not talking "Wait for marriage," crap, just KNOW the person you're going to sleep with before you sleep with them. Neither side can feign ignorance. And it doesn't even have to be a two-hour lecture on 'Why Joe Doesn't Want Kids: Part VII, Money'... just, "Not without a condom--too young for kids *wink*" or the like.
It's not hard. In the end, it's 50/50, because someone else isn't responsible for another person, no matter how deceitful the man or woman may be. If a man has sex (especially unprotected sex, taking her word tha
Sure, we've done damage. But are we going to turn the planet into kitty litter? No. The planet will just shake us off then rebuild itself, sans people. As George Carlin once said, who knows, maybe the planet would make something really cool, new life and what not out of plastic.
Mainly, the only reason we want to "protect the planet" is self-preservation. For US, it's important to live, but what effect do we have in other solar systems? Hell, half a solar radii away--what's our impact there? I don't see this view as virtuous, I see it as realism. It makes my life a little richer, knowing that all I've got is me and what I do with my time. So I make it valuable, and try to make an impact, because it's all I've got.
Waaaaaitaminnit. I've been commenting a lot around here, and all I've been saying is that I WANT the male birth control. Where the hell do you read my NOT wanting it in here? My entire stance is based on men taking part in the birth control process, instead of it being on the woman solely, having control over the choice to have kids or not. Why twist everything around? Are you that desperate to give chicks the shaft? Seriously, I'm SUPPORTIVE of men having this choice, wtf is your deal?
But you know what'll happen. Like the last prediction of the End of the World, they'll try to say it was off by a couple days. Then again, once 2013 slips up on us all, they'll then move on to saying, "Oh, they meant 2021!"...
I said voice, didn't I? Even if I didn't, the voice change doesn't last longer than a few years, neither does the formation of an Adam's Apple. By the time a man is grown at 18-21, they're basically in the same body they'll be in at 60. Changes, yes, but the norm for both sexes. Erectile dysfunction is stay or go, yes. But I'm talking long-term effects that you have to deal with, some quite unpleasantly.
"Perhaps we don't actually give birth, but aside from that, the physical frustrations of our sexes are at least equal, any day."...now I'm sorry, but this is so completely false. I'm not being snarky, it's just that... you don't bleed out of your penis every month with severe cramping and even vomiting (that was a big, big issue in high school and college for me--still happens every now and again), you don't lose your penis' functions as a whole through male-menopause (erectile dysfunction doesn't trump menopause, I'm sorry; you can still have a kid at 80, if you so chose) and your chest doesn't explode out at 12 or so to make back-breaking lumps you gotta lug around for the rest of your life. Men have their changes, but they don't come close.
Ah, that fine gentleman! Yes, indeed. I can see him now, going to his spawn... "Okay kids, do Daddy a favor: don't eat for the next seven or twelve years 'til I figure this shit out."
The only way I would agree with you is if it was decided beforehand that she WOULD have an abortion if she got pregnant. I mean... honestly, do you understand what most women go through in having an abortion? It's not a flippant contraceptive, but something that can destroy you mentally, emotionally, etc.
I'm being serious now, really, because the two options you have here is something that involves instant gratification: "abort the baby, done," and "she had the kid, I'm outta here." Do you understand how either one of those can affect you later on in life? Do you really and truly understand that 18 years later, you're going to be loathed and reviled by the person you fathered, or that maybe, just maybe, you might regret the abortion? It's not to say "THIS WILL HAPPEN!" it's to actually think. I'm a scientist at heart, and calculate every single little thing, not just how I feel at this very moment.
In the end, if you don't want a kid, don't have sex on the first date. Maybe not even on the second. Get to know the person you're interested in, let them know how you want things to go and see if you match. Not every woman is out to get you, you know. It's about being selective. I think this about friends of mine that hooked up with losers, thought they were great but ended up being abusive deadbeat-dads that won't take care of the kids they gave life to. I feel for them, but I went for the geeky guy all THEIR 'love interests' teased for playing violin instead of going to keg parties. "Well, you made your choice, even knowing what kind of person they were."
"I also think that a father has the right to know if he has a child, so I'm completely in favour of paternity testing"
Absolutely. The only times I'd say "Oh, c'mon," is if it's obvious he's just being a dick. Some men will do anything to get out of that responsibility, even if it takes lying, calling her a 'whore'. But even then, fine, have your paternity test. In that case I'd say that the father would have to pay for it, unless it turned out it wasn't his kid. That's to prevent defaming the woman he's accusing of cheating on him.
I think what a lot of men who bitch and accuse women of "trapping them with a kid" (because women can control the sperm count and what it does after it gets up in her uterus; let's face it, most women who get pregnant didn't have some master plan to keep the guy around. Some? Sure, but...) don't think on is that they've created a human, who will one day know that the man who fathered them saw them more as a trap than an actual person. I can't imagine that kind of feeling, especially if when I turned 18, they'd suddenly want to be in my life. What a hurtful, psych-bill inducing insult, knowing that your entire existence was spit upon by the person who should have loved you most.
I actually dislike women who do that. I find it disingenuous, and really, if you want to feel productive and empowered, do it your own effing self. Can't bitch later, "I'm a strong woman, don't treat me like a second-class citizen!" if you're pulling crap like that.
ANY-way. I was an insecure, introverted thing growing up, so it didn't take teasing. You can relate it to a guy's experience, getting an unwanted erection, only it's ALWAYS there. You feel like you're getting stared at, and I hated that feeling. I usually wore baggy shirts and other unflattering items of wear, but I'll never forget when we had to dress up for a mock trial of 'Mr. Alcohol' for a science-health class. I grabbed the only good clothes I had, a sweater I never wore (my Nana had the most boring taste in clothes) and it ended up being WAY too tight than I'd wanted. Suddenly, the geeky girl boys never paid attention to gained a crowd of sudden admirers. I find it funny nowadays, but back then I knew why and hated it.
You're right, not all girls feel that way. But when you're a sensitive, relatively unpopular girl who actually feared sex (for ex., I told my sixth grade boyfriend that I wasn't getting married, because my view was that marriage meant sexsexsex... funny, eh? Lol) you do NOT want guys staring at your boobs. I still feel that way sometimes, mainly because I'm the opposite of that girl you mentioned: I like being noticed for actual attributes, not my body. It ain't much to-do anymore, anyway.;)
Of course she needs to take care of her kid. And single mothers who don't have the dads stick around DO. Are you saying they don't? Saying that it's a 50/50 deal makes me misandric? I'd say the opposite. Children need a father in their lives, imho, and the world would be a better place if more men stepped up to the plate. it's *getting* better, but it needs work.
I don't know what women you've met in life, but I assure you, I ain't one of them. Neither are many. Have you ever thought that your selection and choices are messed-up and you're honing in on the WRONG chicks? I hooked up with a great guy, a real, 100% geek, while nearly all of my friends decided to moon over the Bad Boys. I get jealous looks from them, especially from the single mother demographic, but I don't say, "Yea, men are assholes," but "Well, you made the choices."
It's not being PC, that's not how I meant it. Of course we're different. It still stands, though; a lot of men would see this form of contraception as an intrusion. Most men I know are really good people, but get squeamish about body issues, even if it's their own. That's only one set of experiences from one person, but... yea.
My husband watched my c-section, though. He doesn't fall into that category, lol.
One time discomfort? What do you think boobs are, detachable?
And seriously, I don't know what your mom or girlfriend or babysitter did to you, but your martyr complex needs some attention. Do you honestly think all women get by on their looks and bodies, even when it comes to jobs (that, might I add, women get paid less than men in most cases, even when they work just as hard) and working on relationships? That's a crock. Maybe SOME do, but tons of men are just as asshole-y.
I've worked hard for everything I have. I made the right choices in almost every area, and while life isn't perfect, I'm not about to blame an entire race, sex or demographic for the crap in my life. I could sit here myself and complain, whine and make blanket statements about men, how my daddy cheated on my mom, broke up their marriage then left us in the lurch never paying a cent for my upbringing, or how half the guys I tried dating were only in it for the sex, whatever else. But... see, I don't do that. I'd rather take a scientific view, wherein I don't judge an entire people based on a small, insignificant set of personal experiences. Try doing that for yourself.
And may I add: by "stupid-ridiculous body issues" I meant an upheaval of your body's system. Getting boobs is a Big Deal. Try being a sixth grade girl with D-cups then get back to me.
Perhaps, but for a married couple who don't want any more kids, or ANY kids altogether, it can be beneficial to their love lives if one or both uses oral contraceptives. And really, MOST women (though not all, unfortunately) understand that birth control pills don't prevent STDs, but we take it anyway AND condom use is encouraged.
What is this, this putting his wallet in involuntarily? Are you talking about the woman getting pregnant and the man having to pay child support? Well... um, if the man in this hypothetical situation was raped for that there sperm, then sure--he shouldn't pay a red cent. If he wasn't, then he needs to re-enroll in his sixth grade health class to learn that when you stick your junk in a vagina, it may produce a pregnancy.
Seriously. This argument is so old and so tiresome. If you get a woman pregnant, that's your kid. You need to take care of your kid. Is that too hard a concept to grasp?
I thought they could do a reversal for those who changed their minds? Either way, I think more and more men are evolving past their insecurities with body issues and it MAY catch on. Hoping so, anyway. Having more and more options on the table involving both sexes in preventing pregnancy, especially if either the man or woman can't DO oral contraceptives (as it was for me, previously stated) is a must, imho.
I get this strange, uncanny feeling that it won't catch on. From my own experience and opinion, men get squicked-out when it comes to changing one of their body functions. Women are "meh, okay," when it comes to oral contraceptives (in SOME cases--me, it didn't work out at all) simply because they have to put up with major, stupid-ridiculous body issues over their entire lives (menstrual cycles, D-cups, pregnancy, menopause--just to name a few) while a man's changes are more subtle, quicker, and easily controllable (facial hair, voice changes, etc.). It'd be nice to, as Samwise says, 'Share the load,' (har har) but it'd take some time and re-thinking of roles.
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I knew this story would be on here, knew it'd have more comments than any other story and that a ton of them would say "This isn't news for nerds." Because the supposed non-/. stories always get a crapload of comments. That's probably why they go up; it's well-known that topics like these will garner the most attention, and we prove it time-after-time.
I don't have a problem with it being up myself (it's important, even if it's not tech-y), but if anyone else does, just don't comment and give it attention/hits. I dunno, seems logical to me.
Now I'm picturing Curiosity roaming around, singing, "On planet Mars, I feel safest of all, no more humans around, and I get to shoot rocks, on Mars..."
You almost got me PMSL... good show, Sir or Madam...
Don't you love it when a new, wonderful and advance in science is reduced to "YEA! Now we can get even with the wimmins for all those RIGHTS they have!" with these guys? It's not about, "Nice, now I can control what my body does and what it WON'T do, preventing unwanted pregnancies." No. It's an immediate, ill-perceived tool of revenge.
I'm just gonna say it, cos' I've had it: to those guys, with all your accusations and revenge tactics? We don't want to be pregnant with your kid. Sorry to disappoint, but we're not all lining up for your DNA like you think we are. It's like being scared of a gay guy cos' he's gonna check you out--the assumption that you're worth being checked-out makes most of them laugh.
I don't see how my saying that a man should support his child means that I think total absolutes about women getting everything they want with no accountability. I'm honestly trying to find the words to say to this, because I'd said I wasn't going to say anything else (I've raped this topic comments-wise today), so I want to make everything clear in these "final words". Or what I HOPE are final...
Never once have I said anything about women getting everything and men getting nothing, but that doesn't seem to matter; to some men, it seems that anytime someone brings up a disadvantage in the 'Woman's World', they jump up and start pointing fingers, saying "we have it bad, too!" What's funny is that while I have a small feminist side, I see the bullshit that goes on on my side of the court. I could give examples, but I've been too wordy already. Fact is, I try my best to be a reasonable, well-rounded and deep-thinking individual. I can shoot off the mouth and be opinionated, but if no one did that, there wouldn't be anything interesting on the internet.
We DO have a little more responsibility. And in a lot of cases, that's what fucks us up the ass without the benny of a reach-around. We're damned if we do, damned if we don't. If you're a pregnant teenager, some schools will try to bar you from attending but let the baby-daddy (gah, hate using that, but it seems right here, dunno why) roam the halls without repercussion. If we choose to abort when the man doesn't want us to, we're baby-killing bitches. If we choose to keep the baby, we're money-hungry bitches. If we choose to not have sex on the first or second date, we're labelled prudes. If we DO have sex on the first or second date, we're sluts. We do have options, and we DON'T have options, simply because we can be vilified for any one of them. Saying this, I'm not trying to play the tearful, "WOE IS ME, I'M A WOMAN!" card, it is what it is. How do we win? Give the man the decision entirely? Compromise, when it's already too hot to touch? What about the families on both sides, do they have a say? I DO side with women on this issue a little more, yes, because the products of both abortion and pregnancy will stay with her forever. I know the latter well; I had to have a c-section, because my son was born at 11.6 pounds, no lie. I've never recovered from it, even when I joined a gym and went through serious fitness and dieting routines. I'd never take it back, however. All this doesn't mean the man doesn't get a say in what happens, but it IS hard to say how it's finalized, as yes, the woman is the most affected. Sorry... you might not like it as a man, but it's just fact. Sometimes I don't like it either, because I'm a person who wants to be completely impartial, even in things like this. But I always keep coming back to the "who's affected the most by this?" point.
The best solution is what a lot of men (and some women) do not want to hear: this can allllll be avoided in NOT having sex with someone on the first, second or even third date. This goes for both sexes. If Jane and Joe have sex on the first date and Jane gets pregnant, neither one of them can bitch about the decisions being made on either side, whether or not the woman's insisting on it being her way. If Jane got to know Joe, she'd learn he didn't want kids and would want an abortion be done and nothing but. If Joe got to know Jane, he'd learn that she didn't want an abortion, even if it was with some guy she just met. Would this seriously kill anyone? I'm not talking "Wait for marriage," crap, just KNOW the person you're going to sleep with before you sleep with them. Neither side can feign ignorance. And it doesn't even have to be a two-hour lecture on 'Why Joe Doesn't Want Kids: Part VII, Money'... just, "Not without a condom--too young for kids *wink*" or the like.
It's not hard. In the end, it's 50/50, because someone else isn't responsible for another person, no matter how deceitful the man or woman may be. If a man has sex (especially unprotected sex, taking her word tha
Sure, we've done damage. But are we going to turn the planet into kitty litter? No. The planet will just shake us off then rebuild itself, sans people. As George Carlin once said, who knows, maybe the planet would make something really cool, new life and what not out of plastic.
Mainly, the only reason we want to "protect the planet" is self-preservation. For US, it's important to live, but what effect do we have in other solar systems? Hell, half a solar radii away--what's our impact there? I don't see this view as virtuous, I see it as realism. It makes my life a little richer, knowing that all I've got is me and what I do with my time. So I make it valuable, and try to make an impact, because it's all I've got.
Waaaaaitaminnit. I've been commenting a lot around here, and all I've been saying is that I WANT the male birth control. Where the hell do you read my NOT wanting it in here? My entire stance is based on men taking part in the birth control process, instead of it being on the woman solely, having control over the choice to have kids or not. Why twist everything around? Are you that desperate to give chicks the shaft? Seriously, I'm SUPPORTIVE of men having this choice, wtf is your deal?
But you know what'll happen. Like the last prediction of the End of the World, they'll try to say it was off by a couple days. Then again, once 2013 slips up on us all, they'll then move on to saying, "Oh, they meant 2021!"...
Or, y'know, maybe applying human-generated myths to actual, present-day scientific observations isn't needed, as humans are so completely inconsequential it's laughable.
I said voice, didn't I? Even if I didn't, the voice change doesn't last longer than a few years, neither does the formation of an Adam's Apple. By the time a man is grown at 18-21, they're basically in the same body they'll be in at 60. Changes, yes, but the norm for both sexes. Erectile dysfunction is stay or go, yes. But I'm talking long-term effects that you have to deal with, some quite unpleasantly.
"Perhaps we don't actually give birth, but aside from that, the physical frustrations of our sexes are at least equal, any day." ...now I'm sorry, but this is so completely false. I'm not being snarky, it's just that... you don't bleed out of your penis every month with severe cramping and even vomiting (that was a big, big issue in high school and college for me--still happens every now and again), you don't lose your penis' functions as a whole through male-menopause (erectile dysfunction doesn't trump menopause, I'm sorry; you can still have a kid at 80, if you so chose) and your chest doesn't explode out at 12 or so to make back-breaking lumps you gotta lug around for the rest of your life. Men have their changes, but they don't come close.
Ah, that fine gentleman! Yes, indeed. I can see him now, going to his spawn... "Okay kids, do Daddy a favor: don't eat for the next seven or twelve years 'til I figure this shit out."
The only way I would agree with you is if it was decided beforehand that she WOULD have an abortion if she got pregnant. I mean... honestly, do you understand what most women go through in having an abortion? It's not a flippant contraceptive, but something that can destroy you mentally, emotionally, etc.
I'm being serious now, really, because the two options you have here is something that involves instant gratification: "abort the baby, done," and "she had the kid, I'm outta here." Do you understand how either one of those can affect you later on in life? Do you really and truly understand that 18 years later, you're going to be loathed and reviled by the person you fathered, or that maybe, just maybe, you might regret the abortion? It's not to say "THIS WILL HAPPEN!" it's to actually think. I'm a scientist at heart, and calculate every single little thing, not just how I feel at this very moment.
In the end, if you don't want a kid, don't have sex on the first date. Maybe not even on the second. Get to know the person you're interested in, let them know how you want things to go and see if you match. Not every woman is out to get you, you know. It's about being selective. I think this about friends of mine that hooked up with losers, thought they were great but ended up being abusive deadbeat-dads that won't take care of the kids they gave life to. I feel for them, but I went for the geeky guy all THEIR 'love interests' teased for playing violin instead of going to keg parties. "Well, you made your choice, even knowing what kind of person they were."
"I also think that a father has the right to know if he has a child, so I'm completely in favour of paternity testing"
Absolutely. The only times I'd say "Oh, c'mon," is if it's obvious he's just being a dick. Some men will do anything to get out of that responsibility, even if it takes lying, calling her a 'whore'. But even then, fine, have your paternity test. In that case I'd say that the father would have to pay for it, unless it turned out it wasn't his kid. That's to prevent defaming the woman he's accusing of cheating on him.
I think what a lot of men who bitch and accuse women of "trapping them with a kid" (because women can control the sperm count and what it does after it gets up in her uterus; let's face it, most women who get pregnant didn't have some master plan to keep the guy around. Some? Sure, but...) don't think on is that they've created a human, who will one day know that the man who fathered them saw them more as a trap than an actual person. I can't imagine that kind of feeling, especially if when I turned 18, they'd suddenly want to be in my life. What a hurtful, psych-bill inducing insult, knowing that your entire existence was spit upon by the person who should have loved you most.
I actually dislike women who do that. I find it disingenuous, and really, if you want to feel productive and empowered, do it your own effing self. Can't bitch later, "I'm a strong woman, don't treat me like a second-class citizen!" if you're pulling crap like that.
ANY-way. I was an insecure, introverted thing growing up, so it didn't take teasing. You can relate it to a guy's experience, getting an unwanted erection, only it's ALWAYS there. You feel like you're getting stared at, and I hated that feeling. I usually wore baggy shirts and other unflattering items of wear, but I'll never forget when we had to dress up for a mock trial of 'Mr. Alcohol' for a science-health class. I grabbed the only good clothes I had, a sweater I never wore (my Nana had the most boring taste in clothes) and it ended up being WAY too tight than I'd wanted. Suddenly, the geeky girl boys never paid attention to gained a crowd of sudden admirers. I find it funny nowadays, but back then I knew why and hated it.
You're right, not all girls feel that way. But when you're a sensitive, relatively unpopular girl who actually feared sex (for ex., I told my sixth grade boyfriend that I wasn't getting married, because my view was that marriage meant sexsexsex... funny, eh? Lol) you do NOT want guys staring at your boobs. I still feel that way sometimes, mainly because I'm the opposite of that girl you mentioned: I like being noticed for actual attributes, not my body. It ain't much to-do anymore, anyway. ;)
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Of course she needs to take care of her kid. And single mothers who don't have the dads stick around DO. Are you saying they don't? Saying that it's a 50/50 deal makes me misandric? I'd say the opposite. Children need a father in their lives, imho, and the world would be a better place if more men stepped up to the plate. it's *getting* better, but it needs work.
I don't know what women you've met in life, but I assure you, I ain't one of them. Neither are many. Have you ever thought that your selection and choices are messed-up and you're honing in on the WRONG chicks? I hooked up with a great guy, a real, 100% geek, while nearly all of my friends decided to moon over the Bad Boys. I get jealous looks from them, especially from the single mother demographic, but I don't say, "Yea, men are assholes," but "Well, you made the choices."
It's not being PC, that's not how I meant it. Of course we're different. It still stands, though; a lot of men would see this form of contraception as an intrusion. Most men I know are really good people, but get squeamish about body issues, even if it's their own. That's only one set of experiences from one person, but... yea.
My husband watched my c-section, though. He doesn't fall into that category, lol.
One time discomfort? What do you think boobs are, detachable?
And seriously, I don't know what your mom or girlfriend or babysitter did to you, but your martyr complex needs some attention. Do you honestly think all women get by on their looks and bodies, even when it comes to jobs (that, might I add, women get paid less than men in most cases, even when they work just as hard) and working on relationships? That's a crock. Maybe SOME do, but tons of men are just as asshole-y.
I've worked hard for everything I have. I made the right choices in almost every area, and while life isn't perfect, I'm not about to blame an entire race, sex or demographic for the crap in my life. I could sit here myself and complain, whine and make blanket statements about men, how my daddy cheated on my mom, broke up their marriage then left us in the lurch never paying a cent for my upbringing, or how half the guys I tried dating were only in it for the sex, whatever else. But... see, I don't do that. I'd rather take a scientific view, wherein I don't judge an entire people based on a small, insignificant set of personal experiences. Try doing that for yourself.
And may I add: by "stupid-ridiculous body issues" I meant an upheaval of your body's system. Getting boobs is a Big Deal. Try being a sixth grade girl with D-cups then get back to me.
I have DOUBLE-Ds, honey. E-cups when I was pregnant.
Perhaps, but for a married couple who don't want any more kids, or ANY kids altogether, it can be beneficial to their love lives if one or both uses oral contraceptives. And really, MOST women (though not all, unfortunately) understand that birth control pills don't prevent STDs, but we take it anyway AND condom use is encouraged.
What is this, this putting his wallet in involuntarily? Are you talking about the woman getting pregnant and the man having to pay child support? Well... um, if the man in this hypothetical situation was raped for that there sperm, then sure--he shouldn't pay a red cent. If he wasn't, then he needs to re-enroll in his sixth grade health class to learn that when you stick your junk in a vagina, it may produce a pregnancy.
Seriously. This argument is so old and so tiresome. If you get a woman pregnant, that's your kid. You need to take care of your kid. Is that too hard a concept to grasp?
I thought they could do a reversal for those who changed their minds? Either way, I think more and more men are evolving past their insecurities with body issues and it MAY catch on. Hoping so, anyway. Having more and more options on the table involving both sexes in preventing pregnancy, especially if either the man or woman can't DO oral contraceptives (as it was for me, previously stated) is a must, imho.
I get this strange, uncanny feeling that it won't catch on. From my own experience and opinion, men get squicked-out when it comes to changing one of their body functions. Women are "meh, okay," when it comes to oral contraceptives (in SOME cases--me, it didn't work out at all) simply because they have to put up with major, stupid-ridiculous body issues over their entire lives (menstrual cycles, D-cups, pregnancy, menopause--just to name a few) while a man's changes are more subtle, quicker, and easily controllable (facial hair, voice changes, etc.). It'd be nice to, as Samwise says, 'Share the load,' (har har) but it'd take some time and re-thinking of roles.
I bite my tongue when using a free service with ads.
But come now, 'conversation starters'? Just because I'm broke doesn't mean I'm dumb. Just say, "We're putting ads on this shit, deal."