No, it cost. There is a free one out there though, I just cannot remember what it is called! WebDrive is the name of the (commerical) software I was using.
By the way, Windows XP and Mac OSX both allow you to access a WebDAV folder
Yah but my Uni offers SCP, and I don't know of any free providers for 2GB or so WebDAV folders.:)
BS, they've done a terrible job of it. The issue of using scripting with direct API hooks with an extraordinary amount of trust in a local zone has been the cause of too many security problems.
C# by default at least attempts to be fairly secure. By default running.Net application that is just on a NETWORK drive can give all sorts of security errors, warnings, and exceptions! Very annoying for some things.
I imagine (and if I am wrong some one please correct me) that.Net sandboxes applications the same way that Java does, by just not allowing access to any "local" files or resources (aside from CPU and memory, and non-disk I/O).
Of course there is also the whole issue of managed vs unmanaged code, from what I understand.Net can only ensure security when it comes to managed code, and that if you need to run something unmanaged, all bets are off.
They'd be far better off if they exploited an actual client/server model on the local machine, where the "web based" local app connected to a local web server, with a proper trust model.
And who exactly would trust MS to run a web server on their local machine?
How about making it an integrated part of the desktop so that it works across all desktops and applications, and you will need some sort of universal sign on system that will let me sit down at ANY computer in the world that is connected to the net, enter my credentials, and have access to all of my files.
That does not currently exist, mostly because nobody anyone else enough to let them implement such a system! I'm sure that {Microsoft, Sun, Oracle, IBM} would be happy to build such as system if the other big companies wouldn't go about trying to stop them.
No actually you'll be on IE6 running XP or 2000.:)
Seriously, this is today, you can go out and throw together a.Net web app almost the same as any other.Net app. Remember.Net is sandboxed.:) Now I don't know how much we can trust the sandbox, but in theory at least it is there.
Back then, desktops were so simple that the distance between simple HTML and your desktop didn't look that far.
Actually if you look where Microsoft has gone, the Desktop basically IS a fancy HTML page. Increasingly their applications are being migrated to XML and HTML, portions of Visual Studio are HTML based, and Explorer has, since Windows 98, used HTML to render folder views, and as Explorer has progressed, it has more and more heavily relied upon HTML.
The main problem is that most app vendors suck and cannot write integrated web apps worth a crud! Also network latency is not so nice either. The best integrated network app I ever say was one that let me mount a remote HD that I had scp access to as a local drive, very cool.
Of course the Linux people are doing good on this front too, SVG icons and such, it is just that nobody has really tried to go and create a networked desktop on either the Open Source side of the Close Source side.
As for over the internet? Well it would be EXTREMELY cool to have access to all of my documents where ever I sit down at a computer, Gmail gets close but not quite the same as a universal "My Docs" folder that I can save to and load from across all apps across all plateforms ya know?
So, who will win the Web application war? Microsoft, with ActiveX, or Mozilla Foundation, with XUL? Talking of ActiveX, I would not be surprised if ActiveX support was just a legacy feature and Microsoft pushed a new Web application development framework based on.NET, because it ActiveX seems to be inherently flawed. Added to that,.NET is the future of Microsoft's technology and will be a part of everything the company does -- especially Longhorn.
Welcome to Behind The Times.
ActiveX IS legacy, Microsoft IS pushing.Net web applications..Net apps actually kind of rock, you can take C# code, and say "Hey run this in a browser", kind of like Java and applets. Oh wait...:-D (Actually it is a bit more powerful than that, but still it has its hoops to jump through)
And if you contacted Xerox about dropping 300K+ on a DC8000 but told them you didn't want a service contract and that you wanted to pay cash they would laugh at you.
And instead if I go to ebay.com or a used office supply shop and purchase one that is a few years old?
And from the looks of it, Docucolors are sold through third parties anyways, and I am sure that it would not be too hidiously hard to find some small company willing to take $300,000 in cash.
Oh really? The country with the most literate population for most of recorded history, with the most books for most of recorded history, with the most recorded history in recorded history, where the civil service for 2000 years required to pass a civil service exam (which required years of study for), that invented paper, printed books, gunpowder, the compass,...
I agree completely./. had an article awhile back about schools spending money to put a "digital whiteboard" in every classroom, newspapers were touting the advantages; students could give powerpoint presentations more often!
Stupid stupid stupid. Powerpoint does not equate to learning, it is an expository tool for use by professionals to quickly give overviews of topics to other professionals. When used academically it is fairly detrimental.
And anyway, I don't think our educational system (per se) lags behind that of other countries. To the extent that there is a problem I think it is cultural. We have become lazy.
To a great extent, that is true. Parents are angered if their "little child" is made to do more than an hour or two of homework a day, and have no problem with schools assigning hours and hours of make work to students.
You know I really am amazed at the difference in class planning and scheduling between public schools and Universities. In college, there is never enough time for a class, never enough days to cover all of the lecture material. In public school, they give make work for the last few weeks because they have nothing to cover! Ridiculas.
Of course public schools also give children a month or two to read a 200 page pocket book. As for myself, if in charge of the class, I would give students two weeks at most.
"Yes, I expect you to spend an entire HOUR reading this book each day! Yes that ALSO includes the weekends. NO I do NOT care if you have a party to go to!"
The best and brightest from all over the world come to our universities because they are some of the best
You bet they do, somebody needs to fill those slots, it sure as hell isn't going to be American's with their ass-backwards way of teaching Language, History, or Mathematics!
Seriously, we expect far to little from our students, we over fund technology and under fund actual teaching staff, and we put far to much effort towards teaching our children "common sense" material (i.e. spending 6+ years on arithmetic) and not enough effort into more abstract problem solving skills.
For as much "common sense" learning that we give our students, we also horribly underfund actual hands on learning, why do we not have PROGRAMMING instructors in schools? Oh yah, because after funding purchases of a 2:1 computer to student ratio, schools don't bother to allocate any money for actual INSTRUCTORS who know how to USE those computers! (Hint: Entry level pay of 35K a year is NOT going to get your CS grads to come and teach at public schools!)
Don't even get me started about the slipshod standards that we hold our teacher's accountable to. It is not their fault the standards suck, it is just that we cannot expect too much more of them than what we gave them in the educational system in the first place, which wasn't all that much!
Alternately, there's Yoper, which is just designed to be a fast, binary-based distro. Basically, imagine if a nerd set up your Gentoo box for you. I didn't try that one myself - it has specific processor requirements my dusty old p166 couldn't handle.
It requires a 686+ IIRC, I used to run it, but then I Gentooified it by installing emerge, and ended up with everything just being Gentoo.
Which reminds me, Yoper is a great way to get a Gentoo box up and running.:-D
Power* = does the stuff people would post to slashdot asking for
Is i* also apple-speak for "Screw The Customer Over"?
Seriously, where is Apple even AQUIRING 1024x768 laptop LCD screens? Only the cheapest and cheesiest (and by that I mean UNDER $1000, heck, under $800!) PC laptops have that low of a resolution. (With the unfortunate exception of Tablet PCs, which are premium AND have a cruddy resolution!)
This means that Apple is putting a price premium of at least $300 on their laptops, and while they are nice, are they really an extra $300 nice?
Seriously, a 1400x1050 screen would make their laptops a lot more desirable.
And busting a shell doesn't need 1024*768
The issue is more DPI, more DPI = sharper image, and a sharper image means my eyes can tolerate more stuff crammed onto the screen at once. So if I want to have, say, a terminal AND a web browser open at the same time, it is doable.
Yah they are rather cool, but the lack of flash based storage kinda throws it for me, I don't want to get another Palm that likes to lose its mind!
That and 160x160 is just too small, especially with how cheap 320x240 screens are.
Oh well, Palm is going the way of the Dodo anyways (which also seems to be their offical market strategy, stupid! They started out good with the Zire as an entry level Palm, now the cheapest Zire costs way over $100, wrong direction to move the price tag!)
Seriously, any of the old Palm 4.x devices are still a "Good Investment". Unfortunatly I bought a Sony one, GREAT battery life, lousy software support (I had to ditch it since I couldn't actually get ahold of a copy of Palm Desktop that worked with it!)
Also the entire "loses everything in memory upon losing battery power" thing bit me in the butt numerious times (especially without the afore mentioned sync software).
If someone released a good 320x240 Greyscale PDA running a Palm4.x type OS that used Flash memory, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Heck with today's silicon manufacturing processes, I can only imagine how many CENTS the CPU back in those older Palm's would cost to make now days.
Oh and the 16MB of ram wouldn't exactly cost a lot either.
I don't need an MP3 player, I don't need a video player, the e-book applications are cool though (woot!), and I don't need WiFi access. I want something that I can fit in my pocket and use to jot crud down.
It's too bad, really. A few people acting madly have such a huge effect on everyone else. Car-jacking and road rage cause everyone to just cave in and let things happen which in the past would have been dealt with and de-escalated.
I always figured that brief spout of road rage we had a few years back helped every one learn to ease up and drive nicer.
Or maybe that was just here in the Pacific Northwest.:) After a number of (rather brutal) beatings, we all kinda took a step back and said "woh, thats too much man, gotta smooth things out a bit ya know?"
My best interest is to deny them the ability to more effectively sell me stuff and use my own damn brain to decide what I want to buy, eh?
Well now that depends, what if you are going to buy widget X from some store, but this one store that pays attention to you realizes this ahead of time so they put a price on widget X that is 10% lower than everyone elses?
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No, it cost. There is a free one out there though, I just cannot remember what it is called! WebDrive is the name of the (commerical) software I was using.
Yah but my Uni offers SCP, and I don't know of any free providers for 2GB or so WebDAV folders.
C# by default at least attempts to be fairly secure. By default running
I imagine (and if I am wrong some one please correct me) that
Of course there is also the whole issue of managed vs unmanaged code, from what I understand
And who exactly would trust MS to run a web server on their local machine?
I haven't seen a provider in the US that offers them at a lesser price.
Wait, maybe 5 cent providers, I cannot quite recall.
Oh and if there is a picture, 15 to 20 cents.
Most providers have an unlimited plan for $10 a month extra, but once again, I would have to know someone else who actually uses the things!
How about making it an integrated part of the desktop so that it works across all desktops and applications, and you will need some sort of universal sign on system that will let me sit down at ANY computer in the world that is connected to the net, enter my credentials, and have access to all of my files.
That does not currently exist, mostly because nobody anyone else enough to let them implement such a system! I'm sure that {Microsoft, Sun, Oracle, IBM} would be happy to build such as system if the other big companies wouldn't go about trying to stop them.
or are trying to type in someone's (unusual) name!
ten cents a message, no thanks. That and NO ONE I know uses text messages on cell phones. Why should we? We have IMs.
No actually you'll be on IE6 running XP or 2000. :)
.Net web app almost the same as any other .Net app. Remember .Net is sandboxed. :) Now I don't know how much we can trust the sandbox, but in theory at least it is there.
Seriously, this is today, you can go out and throw together a
Actually if you look where Microsoft has gone, the Desktop basically IS a fancy HTML page. Increasingly their applications are being migrated to XML and HTML, portions of Visual Studio are HTML based, and Explorer has, since Windows 98, used HTML to render folder views, and as Explorer has progressed, it has more and more heavily relied upon HTML.
The main problem is that most app vendors suck and cannot write integrated web apps worth a crud! Also network latency is not so nice either. The best integrated network app I ever say was one that let me mount a remote HD that I had scp access to as a local drive, very cool.
Of course the Linux people are doing good on this front too, SVG icons and such, it is just that nobody has really tried to go and create a networked desktop on either the Open Source side of the Close Source side.
As for over the internet? Well it would be EXTREMELY cool to have access to all of my documents where ever I sit down at a computer, Gmail gets close but not quite the same as a universal "My Docs" folder that I can save to and load from across all apps across all plateforms ya know?
Welcome to Behind The Times.
ActiveX IS legacy, Microsoft IS pushing
And instead if I go to ebay.com or a used office supply shop and purchase one that is a few years old?
And from the looks of it, Docucolors are sold through third parties anyways, and I am sure that it would not be too hidiously hard to find some small company willing to take $300,000 in cash.
I was talking about America.
I agree completely. /. had an article awhile back about schools spending money to put a "digital whiteboard" in every classroom, newspapers were touting the advantages; students could give powerpoint presentations more often!
Stupid stupid stupid. Powerpoint does not equate to learning, it is an expository tool for use by professionals to quickly give overviews of topics to other professionals. When used academically it is fairly detrimental.
To a great extent, that is true. Parents are angered if their "little child" is made to do more than an hour or two of homework a day, and have no problem with schools assigning hours and hours of make work to students.
You know I really am amazed at the difference in class planning and scheduling between public schools and Universities. In college, there is never enough time for a class, never enough days to cover all of the lecture material. In public school, they give make work for the last few weeks because they have nothing to cover! Ridiculas.
Of course public schools also give children a month or two to read a 200 page pocket book. As for myself, if in charge of the class, I would give students two weeks at most.
"Yes, I expect you to spend an entire HOUR reading this book each day! Yes that ALSO includes the weekends. NO I do NOT care if you have a party to go to!"
"That low of a resolution"
Misuse of caps, yes, but the "of" does work there. (It is redundent though)
Well ok yah, true you CAN go and buy a low res laptop, but why?
Defaults to XGA (1024x768) monitor, for only $60 more you can get an SXGA+.
My friend has one, trust me, it is worth it. 1400x1050 is a very nice resolution.
Hey, compared to what I am paying, University in Cali still IS almost free!
I'm at work, I don't have time to write out things in full, so they get mushed together.
The thing is, I still don't know what is WRONG about that statement!
:-p
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I guess I didn't use the proper tracks, but, that is the only one I ever use.
One is it traxs?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22vast+trac
Not half bad. 6980 people agree, vast tracks!
(Wait, is it vast tracts? Wait, yes it is! Hey I got it via a typo! Who the heck uses the word tracts any more?)
The best and brightest from all over the world come to our universities because they are some of the best
You bet they do, somebody needs to fill those slots, it sure as hell isn't going to be American's with their ass-backwards way of teaching Language, History, or Mathematics!
Seriously, we expect far to little from our students, we over fund technology and under fund actual teaching staff, and we put far to much effort towards teaching our children "common sense" material (i.e. spending 6+ years on arithmetic) and not enough effort into more abstract problem solving skills.
For as much "common sense" learning that we give our students, we also horribly underfund actual hands on learning, why do we not have PROGRAMMING instructors in schools? Oh yah, because after funding purchases of a 2:1 computer to student ratio, schools don't bother to allocate any money for actual INSTRUCTORS who know how to USE those computers! (Hint: Entry level pay of 35K a year is NOT going to get your CS grads to come and teach at public schools!)
Don't even get me started about the slipshod standards that we hold our teacher's accountable to. It is not their fault the standards suck, it is just that we cannot expect too much more of them than what we gave them in the educational system in the first place, which wasn't all that much!
This nation does not have a history of education or academic excellence. Our WW2 genius was mostly imported, as was much of our cold war research.
We as a nation have been able to attract great minds with promises of "vast tracks of land", but that is about it.
It requires a 686+ IIRC, I used to run it, but then I Gentooified it by installing emerge, and ended up with everything just being Gentoo.
Which reminds me, Yoper is a great way to get a Gentoo box up and running.
Power* = does the stuff people would post to slashdot asking for
Is i* also apple-speak for "Screw The Customer Over"?
Seriously, where is Apple even AQUIRING 1024x768 laptop LCD screens? Only the cheapest and cheesiest (and by that I mean UNDER $1000, heck, under $800!) PC laptops have that low of a resolution. (With the unfortunate exception of Tablet PCs, which are premium AND have a cruddy resolution!)
This means that Apple is putting a price premium of at least $300 on their laptops, and while they are nice, are they really an extra $300 nice?
Seriously, a 1400x1050 screen would make their laptops a lot more desirable.
The issue is more DPI, more DPI = sharper image, and a sharper image means my eyes can tolerate more stuff crammed onto the screen at once. So if I want to have, say, a terminal AND a web browser open at the same time, it is doable.
I agree, 1024x768 is far to low of a resolution, and any software system that takes over 32MB of video RAM is crazy!
Though honestly, with RAM so cheap, why doesn't it have 64MB, or at least support shared memory, so I can grab 32MB of the system RAM?
Yah they are rather cool, but the lack of flash based storage kinda throws it for me, I don't want to get another Palm that likes to lose its mind!
That and 160x160 is just too small, especially with how cheap 320x240 screens are.
Oh well, Palm is going the way of the Dodo anyways (which also seems to be their offical market strategy, stupid! They started out good with the Zire as an entry level Palm, now the cheapest Zire costs way over $100, wrong direction to move the price tag!)
Seriously, any of the old Palm 4.x devices are still a "Good Investment". Unfortunatly I bought a Sony one, GREAT battery life, lousy software support (I had to ditch it since I couldn't actually get ahold of a copy of Palm Desktop that worked with it!)
Also the entire "loses everything in memory upon losing battery power" thing bit me in the butt numerious times (especially without the afore mentioned sync software).
If someone released a good 320x240 Greyscale PDA running a Palm4.x type OS that used Flash memory, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Heck with today's silicon manufacturing processes, I can only imagine how many CENTS the CPU back in those older Palm's would cost to make now days.
Oh and the 16MB of ram wouldn't exactly cost a lot either.
I don't need an MP3 player, I don't need a video player, the e-book applications are cool though (woot!), and I don't need WiFi access. I want something that I can fit in my pocket and use to jot crud down.
I always figured that brief spout of road rage we had a few years back helped every one learn to ease up and drive nicer.
Or maybe that was just here in the Pacific Northwest.
Three words: Cash, prepaid cellular.
Well now that depends, what if you are going to buy widget X from some store, but this one store that pays attention to you realizes this ahead of time so they put a price on widget X that is 10% lower than everyone elses?