What kind of an amoral bonehead loser would actualy go about and ACCEPT this type of a contract?
Ok ok ok ok ok, a bean counter I know I know, but somebody with a degree or some experience of some sort actualy has to implement it. . ..
I say we find who ever is assigned to work on this project and explain things to them, and if that doesn't work, beat the living crud outa them. . . . yeesh!
(so you can literally remove a hard drive from one computer and place it in another and BeOS won't give two shits),
Assuming power down first? Windows doesn't care either.:P With hotswappable drives, HDs can be hotswapped to.
Its windows, yet it sucks in many areas, but give credit where credit is do, Windows (or DOS for that matter) has never had problems with whatever drives you want to shove in there.
I betcha that after 30% of so of america's teenage to young adult population is behind bars that THEN the RIAA will start to notice some SERIOUS drops in revenue. . . .
Introduces memory stick format with content control, Sony Bad;
Releases some developers manuals and a Linux Dev kit for their Console, Sony Good;
Rolls out Spyware/DRM system, Sony Bad;
I'm confused!
Oh wait, I am a Nintendo Guy anyway, PSX1/2 suck, buy Nintendo bizzzzzotch!
Yah, err, uh. So basically what little good Sony/has/ done is in relationship to their Console biz (big whoop) and has otherwise continually screwed people over in standard big business fashion?
After the change, the UHF tuners had clickstops for all the UHF channels, putting the UHF stations more or less on a par with the VHF stations. (This was in the days when you changed channels by walking over to the TV and physically rotating a knob on the front of the set.)
One of my TV sets is still like that, and it tees me off that when the Cable Ready standard came along that the TV set is now only able to view the Cable TV stations that are on the standard VHF frequencies. ^_^
I've never seen anything that could be accomplished with a goto that couldn't be accomplished by simply calling functions.
When playing around with my ti-graphing calcs, I use tons of Gotos, I basicaly treat them/as/ functions, with flags setup to say where the function was accessed from and then a large if then else block used to jump back to my originating point.
Yah it is messy as hell, but it is/easy/ to program in and/very/ intuitive to think stuff out that way, especialy for math stuff, which is short sweet and too the point. (well, short and sweet if you ignore the large if then else blocks. . ..)
but it sure as hell isn't legal, nor even ethical.
Legal? Likely not. Ethical? I see nothing wrong with it. . . . They impeed the progress of information and the exchange of data, they have been asked to stop by every other means possible, and they obviously see nothing wrong with their actions.
Ummmm... that movie wasn't designed to be a high-spirited glance into the happy, "nifty," future. It was supposed to give a vision of the bad things that could happen if we go too far without stopping to look around. Apparently, you didn't look around.
Sure I did. No racism, no slavery, no starving, no abused lower class, no genocides, no hatred, no rape, no pedeophiles, no asthma, no dying from a heart attack at age 45, no cancer, no cerebral palsy, no blindness, no deafness, no downs syndrome;
I use Terminal Services Client for Win2k @1024x768x256 without any bandwidth issues. It is even acceptable over a 28.8k dialup. (better on a lan, but acceptable on a dialup)
By comparison Netmeeting (and even TightVNC) can't manage that. . . .
Of course, err, what is your definition of acceptible? To me 800x600x8bit Netmeeting over a 256kbit (cable modem, that is max upstream from either end) connection sucks.
I've been seeing it in various IRC channels for a long time now.
I haven't decided who's sicker.. the original site, or whoever went and made an ASCII version of it...
It was popular on/. some years ago to, until the lameness filter started being/really/ limiting, which also unfortunately cut out the opportunity for legitimate ASCII art.:(
Your post is so loaded with assumptions and emotional responses that it really isn't worth replying to. So I won't, except to say that most of your assumptions and comments are way off base.
LOL
I have been online since I was 9, and I haven't turned into a murdering psychotic maniac yet. I also haven't turned into some sort of nutzo-psychosexual freakazoid or tried to rape kitty cats.
Neither have any of my friends who have been online since a similar age.
So excuse me if I think that "watching for out JR" is a little bit nutz, unless a child has a learning disability, there is no reason that they cannot figure out the internet for themselves. I mean frig, it isn't like it was back when I started out when I had to teach myself boolean to find jack shit on this thing, Google exists now, yaah! No more horribly long search strings just to filter out the crap from the first few pages of results, heh.
Despite what many parents thing, their kids are not stupid and if given the opportunity to explore computers for themselves will likely figure things out just fine.
Of course if children are taught that "they need a guidance councilor to that big scary internet" then you get a bunch of intellectually dependent drones. Oh joy.
Yeesh.
I have been arguing with people with PhDs since I was 10 or 11 (took me awhile to get into the discussion area of things) and I even won a few of those arguments. Had I not been allowed free reign on the internet I would not have had those multitudes of learning opportunities to grow and explore.
Every few months my mother asked me half jokingly if I was downloading porn, I would truthfully answer no, and that was that. Trusting relationship with kids and all, nice thing to have.
Things aren't the same as they were back when we played with BBS' and jerked around with newbies by telling them that ATH+++ would get them into "special" areas of the BBS. Ahhh.. those were the days.
? How are things any more or less dangerous now? If anything I would say they are a good deal safer since there is a/far/ less chance that anybody dealt with online will live in the local area.
I mean sure there are porn pop ups now, but I have been clicking the little x's since I was 13, heh. Warez has always been rather annoying to get on the web it seems. . . . *sighs*
BBSs where soooo much easier to get warez from, but then again the selection was a little bit, err, limited, heh.
I remember being at a BBS meet one time at the sysops house, (note: I am not a drugie, never have been, never will be), the Sysop was trying to convince the boards stoner that, no, breaking into his closet stash of pot would NOT be a good idea at the time.
Mind you none of us there where over 15 years old or so, heh.
I also remember one board that I was on that had a/ton/ of temp directories that you had to have special access to get to, I was innocent of such things at the time (this is when I had just stared out BBSing), but suffice to say the sysop gave me a very nasty letter telling me to mind my own business when I asked him why he had temp directories up there.:-D
When some compilers compile, they store the "original" name somewhere in the binary - MS compilers do this for sure.
Of course there is always the most extreme case scenario of a person making a custom tool to break into your system, allowing them to compile it with whatever name they want to.
CRCs or such would help, but even those can be worked around, though with an immense amount of difficulty.
I remember an article on slashdot quite a while back about a mathematical proof showing that once physical access was gained to the machine, nothing could stop security from being broken down eventually. Though in the most extreme of cases it may take many years and many millions of dollars worth of equipment. ^_^
So, my 8 year old son, who is not allowed to use email without supervision
WTF? When I was 9 I tought myself AT commands, got on bulletin boards myself and learned my way around online communities.
Supervised access? How is he ever supposed to learn how to tolerate a flame war, avoid porn traps, or 'think privacy'?
Then again, sex ed was taught in my school district in the fourth grade so. . . . heh. Not like I was curious about too much, I have always had a "Yah, its pictures of naked people, so what?" attitude towards pornography. A fair number of the bulletin boards I frequently had large pornography sections available that I could have easily gotten a ton of pictures / stories from. Did I? Nope, my parents/taught/ me about the birds and the bees (along with a nice liberal school system Thank You So Very Much, nyah!) so there was no need for me to go around hunting down explicit pictures.
If you are afraid of your son doing something wrong, then you should look back at what you have taught him.:-\ Knowledge rocks.
Of course being threatened by some violent drunk stoned dude who as the cosysop of the board has access to your personal information is:
A: Scary
B: A good lesson in remembering to ALWAYS fake personal information when signing up for crap.:)
Well I have a hotmail account address that I never give out to people and it has recieved all of three messages so far, the original welcoming message and two from microsoft asking me to upgrade my account to the pay service.
Then again it has only been about a month.
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On an unrelated note there was a TV segment here a few nights ago showing a neat trick with those Logitech wireless keyboards. They all use the same frequency, and people type their passwords with them. Use your imagination.
My computer room has so much EM noise that a POTS modem connection cannot even be established from here. The/wired/ phone lines have heavily audiable noise over them at times.
That was precicely the point of my parenthetical. My argument was based on the assumption of free will, because it's a necessary assumption.
Oh, I just thought you meant everything would go to shit if it didn't.:-D I was just saying that society would likely keep on going on as it did no matter what.:)
There is a homicide case in which the initial suspect merely has the wrong genes; the actual killer claims that his genes make him incapable of violence.
I have watched that movie a number of times (ok, 2, and it has been quite a few years) and I do not remember that part of it at all.
I do remember giving it out at genetics presentation as a hopeful example of what the future will turn out to be like though.
Everybody perfect. What was seen in that movie was the last visage of a lost generation, after the remnants from that generation die off there would be no more problems.
Everybody healthy, everybody able. No Blind, no Deaf, no physically disabled. No schizophrenics, no bi-polars, no rapists, no pedeophiles.
Drugs cause countless social problems--we should ban them so everyone has to go to a corrupt HMO just to get a prescription, and the FDA can decline terminal patients a potentially life saving experimental medication
Those are two completely separate topics, two separate paragraphs preferred, but at least two separate sentences.
Grammatically correct? *shrugs* Don't care. Logically correct? Hell no, there should NOT be any sort of a connector anywheres around those two ideas.
I am anti-drug, heavily so. Death threats received to the tune of "please fuck off and let us shoot-up or else I will beat the living f*ck out of your stupid ass" so.
I am pro-Science. Science rocks, politics suck. FDA has too much politics in it, so does the anti-drug war, but at least their underlying motives are sound (drugs f*ck you up man!), the HMOs are just a bunch of corrupt dirty greedy bastards.
As I said, two separate topics. Do NOT get them confused. Thank you.
and if not, intent ceases to be a legal issue anyway)
Not really, this entire western civilization thingy kinda relies upon everybody going along with the assumption that free will exists.
Whether or not it actually does exist is a rather moot point, it just needs to be assumed to exist in order for society to function.
Hell if somebody tomorrow proved with 100% certainty that free will did not exist, it would not likely change a single thing in our society. We need to assume the existence of free will or else we end up being obligated to let a lot of rather dangerous people run loose, either that or we just end up/veeeerrrry/ apathetic in our day to day lives, or both. Ick. All of those possibilities suck.
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What kind of an amoral bonehead loser would actualy go about and ACCEPT this type of a contract?
.
Ok ok ok ok ok, a bean counter I know I know, but somebody with a degree or some experience of some sort actualy has to implement it. . .
I say we find who ever is assigned to work on this project and explain things to them, and if that doesn't work, beat the living crud outa them. . . . yeesh!
(so you can literally remove a hard drive from one computer and place it in another and BeOS won't give two shits),
:P With hotswappable drives, HDs can be hotswapped to.
Assuming power down first? Windows doesn't care either.
Its windows, yet it sucks in many areas, but give credit where credit is do, Windows (or DOS for that matter) has never had problems with whatever drives you want to shove in there.
Waaait;
if arrest customers, then who buys CDs?
I betcha that after 30% of so of america's teenage to young adult population is behind bars that THEN the RIAA will start to notice some SERIOUS drops in revenue. . . .
You are now a suspect because you're the only one who has unaccounted time
Thus says the ticktock man. . . .
Console able to play DVDs, Sony Good;
/has/ done is in relationship to their Console biz (big whoop) and has otherwise continually screwed people over in standard big business fashion?
Introduces memory stick format with content control, Sony Bad;
Releases some developers manuals and a Linux Dev kit for their Console, Sony Good;
Rolls out Spyware/DRM system, Sony Bad;
I'm confused!
Oh wait, I am a Nintendo Guy anyway, PSX1/2 suck, buy Nintendo bizzzzzotch!
Yah, err, uh. So basically what little good Sony
Nice to know we have that all straightened out.
After the change, the UHF tuners had clickstops for all the UHF channels, putting the UHF stations more or less on a par with the VHF stations. (This was in the days when you changed channels by walking over to the TV and physically rotating a knob on the front of the set.)
One of my TV sets is still like that, and it tees me off that when the Cable Ready standard came along that the TV set is now only able to view the Cable TV stations that are on the standard VHF frequencies. ^_^
I've never seen anything that could be accomplished with a goto that couldn't be accomplished by simply calling functions.
/as/ functions, with flags setup to say where the function was accessed from and then a large if then else block used to jump back to my originating point.
/easy/ to program in and /very/ intuitive to think stuff out that way, especialy for math stuff, which is short sweet and too the point. (well, short and sweet if you ignore the large if then else blocks. . . .)
When playing around with my ti-graphing calcs, I use tons of Gotos, I basicaly treat them
Yah it is messy as hell, but it is
Okay, let's recap. You see nothing unethical... about stalking.
/killing/ them.
nononono, about
Stalking them is just plain weird, bleeh!
but it sure as hell isn't legal, nor even ethical.
Legal? Likely not. Ethical? I see nothing wrong with it. . . . They impeed the progress of information and the exchange of data, they have been asked to stop by every other means possible, and they obviously see nothing wrong with their actions.
You have a better suggestion to stop them?
On a locked down box, misc apps downloaded from internet cannot be run anyways. . . .
Give users ability to run any app they want, and of course your security is going to be broken through sooner or later,
duh
Ummmm... that movie wasn't designed to be a high-spirited glance into the happy, "nifty," future. It was supposed to give a vision of the bad things that could happen if we go too far without stopping to look around. Apparently, you didn't look around.
Sure I did. No racism, no slavery, no starving, no abused lower class, no genocides, no hatred, no rape, no pedeophiles, no asthma, no dying from a heart attack at age 45, no cancer, no cerebral palsy, no blindness, no deafness, no downs syndrome;
need I go on?
I use Terminal Services Client for Win2k @1024x768x256 without any bandwidth issues. It is even acceptable over a 28.8k dialup. (better on a lan, but acceptable on a dialup)
By comparison Netmeeting (and even TightVNC) can't manage that. . . .
Of course, err, what is your definition of acceptible? To me 800x600x8bit Netmeeting over a 256kbit (cable modem, that is max upstream from either end) connection sucks.
I've been seeing it in various IRC channels for a long time now.
I haven't decided who's sicker.. the original site, or whoever went and made an ASCII version of it...
It was popular on
Your post is so loaded with assumptions and emotional responses that it really isn't worth replying to. So I won't, except to say that most of your assumptions and comments are way off base.
LOL
I have been online since I was 9, and I haven't turned into a murdering psychotic maniac yet. I also haven't turned into some sort of nutzo-psychosexual freakazoid or tried to rape kitty cats.
Neither have any of my friends who have been online since a similar age.
So excuse me if I think that "watching for out JR" is a little bit nutz, unless a child has a learning disability, there is no reason that they cannot figure out the internet for themselves. I mean frig, it isn't like it was back when I started out when I had to teach myself boolean to find jack shit on this thing, Google exists now, yaah! No more horribly long search strings just to filter out the crap from the first few pages of results, heh.
Despite what many parents thing, their kids are not stupid and if given the opportunity to explore computers for themselves will likely figure things out just fine.
Of course if children are taught that "they need a guidance councilor to that big scary internet" then you get a bunch of intellectually dependent drones. Oh joy.
Yeesh.
I have been arguing with people with PhDs since I was 10 or 11 (took me awhile to get into the discussion area of things) and I even won a few of those arguments. Had I not been allowed free reign on the internet I would not have had those multitudes of learning opportunities to grow and explore.
Every few months my mother asked me half jokingly if I was downloading porn, I would truthfully answer no, and that was that. Trusting relationship with kids and all, nice thing to have.
Things aren't the same as they were back when we played with BBS' and jerked around with newbies by telling them that ATH+++ would get them into "special" areas of the BBS. Ahhh.. those were the days.
? How are things any more or less dangerous now? If anything I would say they are a good deal safer since there is a
I mean sure there are porn pop ups now, but I have been clicking the little x's since I was 13, heh. Warez has always been rather annoying to get on the web it seems. . . . *sighs*
BBSs where soooo much easier to get warez from, but then again the selection was a little bit, err, limited, heh.
I remember being at a BBS meet one time at the sysops house, (note: I am not a drugie, never have been, never will be), the Sysop was trying to convince the boards stoner that, no, breaking into his closet stash of pot would NOT be a good idea at the time.
Mind you none of us there where over 15 years old or so, heh.
I also remember one board that I was on that had a
When some compilers compile, they store the "original" name somewhere in the binary - MS compilers do this for sure.
Of course there is always the most extreme case scenario of a person making a custom tool to break into your system, allowing them to compile it with whatever name they want to.
CRCs or such would help, but even those can be worked around, though with an immense amount of difficulty.
I remember an article on slashdot quite a while back about a mathematical proof showing that once physical access was gained to the machine, nothing could stop security from being broken down eventually. Though in the most extreme of cases it may take many years and many millions of dollars worth of equipment. ^_^
So, my 8 year old son, who is not allowed to use email without supervision
/taught/ me about the birds and the bees (along with a nice liberal school system Thank You So Very Much, nyah!) so there was no need for me to go around hunting down explicit pictures.
:-\ Knowledge rocks.
:)
WTF? When I was 9 I tought myself AT commands, got on bulletin boards myself and learned my way around online communities.
Supervised access? How is he ever supposed to learn how to tolerate a flame war, avoid porn traps, or 'think privacy'?
Then again, sex ed was taught in my school district in the fourth grade so. . . . heh. Not like I was curious about too much, I have always had a "Yah, its pictures of naked people, so what?" attitude towards pornography. A fair number of the bulletin boards I frequently had large pornography sections available that I could have easily gotten a ton of pictures / stories from. Did I? Nope, my parents
If you are afraid of your son doing something wrong, then you should look back at what you have taught him.
Of course being threatened by some violent drunk stoned dude who as the cosysop of the board has access to your personal information is:
A: Scary
B: A good lesson in remembering to ALWAYS fake personal information when signing up for crap.
Well I have a hotmail account address that I never give out to people and it has recieved all of three messages so far, the original welcoming message and two from microsoft asking me to upgrade my account to the pay service.
Then again it has only been about a month.
- On an unrelated note there was a TV segment here a few nights ago showing a neat trick with those Logitech wireless keyboards. They all use the same frequency, and people type their passwords with them. Use your imagination.
My computer room has so much EM noise that a POTS modem connection cannot even be established from here. TheMy radio signals aren't going anywheres.
I suggest you gain some social skills first. A good start is to go outside and meet "normal" people, or dating girls. Hope this help!
Then he would not blend into the server room, duh.
Just another Nerd, not out of place, but a normal person in a server room? Woooh now, hoooold on!
'Approved Applications' listing then?
:) (some do break though, ugh)
Which under Windows is an immensly fun system that checks to make sure the file name is the same.
Heh.
Amazing how many programs still work after being renamed to calc.exe
That was precicely the point of my parenthetical. My argument was based on the assumption of free will, because it's a necessary assumption.
:-D I was just saying that society would likely keep on going on as it did no matter what. :)
Oh, I just thought you meant everything would go to shit if it didn't.
- There is a homicide case in which the initial suspect merely has the wrong genes; the actual killer claims that his genes make him incapable of violence.
I have watched that movie a number of times (ok, 2, and it has been quite a few years) and I do not remember that part of it at all.I do remember giving it out at genetics presentation as a hopeful example of what the future will turn out to be like though.
Everybody perfect. What was seen in that movie was the last visage of a lost generation, after the remnants from that generation die off there would be no more problems.
Everybody healthy, everybody able. No Blind, no Deaf, no physically disabled. No schizophrenics, no bi-polars, no rapists, no pedeophiles.
Sounds like a damn fine and nifty future to me!
- Drugs cause countless social problems--we should ban them so everyone has to go to a corrupt HMO just to get a prescription, and the FDA can decline terminal patients a potentially life saving experimental medication
Those are two completely separate topics, two separate paragraphs preferred, but at least two separate sentences.Grammatically correct? *shrugs* Don't care. Logically correct? Hell no, there should NOT be any sort of a connector anywheres around those two ideas.
I am anti-drug, heavily so. Death threats received to the tune of "please fuck off and let us shoot-up or else I will beat the living f*ck out of your stupid ass" so.
I am pro-Science. Science rocks, politics suck. FDA has too much politics in it, so does the anti-drug war, but at least their underlying motives are sound (drugs f*ck you up man!), the HMOs are just a bunch of corrupt dirty greedy bastards.
As I said, two separate topics. Do NOT get them confused. Thank you.
and if not, intent ceases to be a legal issue anyway)
/veeeerrrry/ apathetic in our day to day lives, or both. Ick. All of those possibilities suck.
Not really, this entire western civilization thingy kinda relies upon everybody going along with the assumption that free will exists.
Whether or not it actually does exist is a rather moot point, it just needs to be assumed to exist in order for society to function.
Hell if somebody tomorrow proved with 100% certainty that free will did not exist, it would not likely change a single thing in our society. We need to assume the existence of free will or else we end up being obligated to let a lot of rather dangerous people run loose, either that or we just end up