The ugly non-backwards compatible binary "enhancement" of HTTP that would marginally improve bandwidth use, etc, but was touted as the solution to all the web's problems?
Or even HTTP/1.1? Who uses that stuff? I know Apache supports some of it, but how much is it actually used and does it gain you anything crucial or even anything very useful?
Attempting to is (e.g attempted murder, attempted drug buy, etc). Selling imitation controlled substances is a statuatorily defined offense under US Federal law, by the way it is also a very good way to get yourself killed.
"Willfully" means you intended to do the action, not necessarily intended to break the law.
If you do something on purpose (instead of by accident) even if you don't know it is illegal, you still did it "willfully".
If I didn't know it was illegal, and made copies of CDs and sold them, it would still be "willfull". If I accidently sold a copy of a copyrighted CD instead of a copy of some open source software because I got confused, that wouldn't be "willfull".
If people saw a huge lump sum bill at the end of the year from the IRS and saw how much money the government is costing them, they might actually do something about that too.
Read your W-2 form, the amount withheld is right there!
Add what you owe or subtract your refund and you get the amount the government takes (or gives in the case of those with "negative" taxes).
Divide that into your gross salary (also on that nifty W-2) and find out what percentage is taken.
It is sickening. It is really sickening when 25% or more of one's wages are taken and the government demands more.
Back to the topic, our government may have a hand in this. I believe it may be illegal (I don't know if it is criminal/felony, criminal/misdemeanor and/or civil) to harm the shareholder's interests. Google isn't being evil if its just obeying the law. Losing China's business would likely be considered to be a violation.
Lawsuits only hurt people because the government, via its court system, can and does take money from some parties (defendants) and give them to others (plaintiffs), and also make orders that if not complied with can result in fines and/or imprisonment (*).
Yeah there is a difference, but government puts the teeth in lawsuits.
(*) The government should rename prison to Physical Rights Management, it is as accurate a term as Digitial Rights Management. After all, people now say pre-owned instead of used, etc.
Even the Communications Decency Act is used for something positive. The ISP exemption survived even though the prohibitions were struck down.
Ironically, what remains of the law is pro-freedom.
As for this court decision, WAY TO GO!
The Nevada District Court (the one in Las Vegas, btw - way to go for my city) made the right decision, and justified it exceedingly well. So many different legal questions under many different legal theories were addressed and multiple factors considered and the decision was as in our favor as much as it could be. This is amazingly good news, especially in a time when many technology based legal decisions go badly.
I am shocked at all the people attacking the ruling. Is Slashdot more anti-court than pro-freedom?? I hope this case sets a strong precendent.
The Department of Homeland Security is going to hide backdoors in Open Source code???
They're the government, they're not magicians!
Remember how quickly the Linux kernel "uid=0" instead of "uid==0" exploit was found?
They could instead compromise a binary of gcc and do a Ken Thompson type hack where it miscompiles itself and system software to add backdoors, although even then, people would notice the different binaries and the miscompilations.
(I hope this post isn't moderated as flamebait. I love Open Source Software, but there are serious problems in our community which need to be addressed. I am not an outsider attacking OSS to destroy, but a community member pointing out shortcomings to help preserve and improve it.)
Do most Open Source projects even do anything with bug reports?
Other than:
1. Ignore them. 2. Claim they are not bugs, but features. 3. Claim they are valid "design decisions". 4. Say they'll get around to fixing bugs when they are done adding features - e.g. they'll fix the root exploit to the FTP daemon after they add a 3D Open GL interface to it. 5. Say it won't be fixed. Bugzilla has a "WONTFIX" status which is used quite often. 6. Fix the bugs by wholesale destruction and replacement of whole sections of code, or even the whole code base - now you got all new bugs! 7. Claim the bug is in another piece of software or hardware and they're code is just the unfortunate victim. 8. Blame software patents, George Bush, Hurricane Katrina, Microsoft, little green men/women from Mars, sunspots, quantum time fluctuations or anything else for why they can't or won't fix it.
Sorry, I have to side with Microsoft on this one! (don't flame me yet)
Using application/ANYTHING as a MIME type is wrong, the content isn't something you run, it is a TEXT file with special formatting and directives.
It doesn't contain non-text characters and can be processed with text tools. It is processed, not executed.
application/ IS WRONG to use for XHTML, XML or any markup language.
Remember HTTP-NG?
The ugly non-backwards compatible binary "enhancement" of HTTP that would marginally improve bandwidth use, etc, but was touted as the solution to all the web's problems?
Or even HTTP/1.1? Who uses that stuff? I know Apache supports some of it, but how much is it actually used and does it gain you anything crucial or even anything very useful?
Open Standards are evil?
Just because Microsoft doesn't support it doesn't make it wrong.
This was in the UK, it was an even amount in British pounds!
Intending to break a law isn't illegal.
Attempting to is (e.g attempted murder, attempted drug buy, etc). Selling imitation controlled substances is a statuatorily defined offense under US Federal law, by the way it is also a very good way to get yourself killed.
We don't have "mindcrimes" yet.
I believe that is wrong.
"Willfully" means you intended to do the action, not necessarily intended to break the law.
If you do something on purpose (instead of by accident) even if you don't know it is illegal, you still did it "willfully".
If I didn't know it was illegal, and made copies of CDs and sold them, it would still be "willfull". If I accidently sold a copy of a copyrighted CD instead of a copy of some open source software because I got confused, that wouldn't be "willfull".
I love how they handle DMCA link takedown demands by providing a link to the takedown demand itself.
If people saw a huge lump sum bill at the end of the year from the IRS and saw how much money the government is costing them, they might actually do something about that too.
Read your W-2 form, the amount withheld is right there!
Add what you owe or subtract your refund and you get the amount the government takes (or gives in the case of those with "negative" taxes).
Divide that into your gross salary (also on that nifty W-2) and find out what percentage is taken.
It is sickening. It is really sickening when 25% or more of one's wages are taken and the government demands more.
Back to the topic, our government may have a hand in this. I believe it may be illegal (I don't know if it is criminal/felony, criminal/misdemeanor and/or civil) to harm the shareholder's interests. Google isn't being evil if its just obeying the law. Losing China's business would likely be considered to be a violation.
Lawsuits only hurt people because the government, via its court system, can and does take money from some parties (defendants) and give them to others (plaintiffs), and also make orders that if not complied with can result in fines and/or imprisonment (*).
Yeah there is a difference, but government puts the teeth in lawsuits.
(*) The government should rename prison to Physical Rights Management, it is as accurate a term as Digitial Rights Management. After all, people now say pre-owned instead of used, etc.
Why pick on Google?
Cisco and Nortel Networks have been implicated in building the Great Firewall of China
And for those of you who would link to wikipedia, etc., that's not a suitable starting place for young kids.
:)
Yeah, look what happens when some of them become editors!
Well ISDN had UN backing...
Oh, yeah, I see what you mean.
As it isn't fair to illegally modify or distribute software for illegally obtaining music. :)
Even the Communications Decency Act is used for something positive. The ISP exemption survived even though the prohibitions were struck down.
Ironically, what remains of the law is pro-freedom.
As for this court decision, WAY TO GO!
The Nevada District Court (the one in Las Vegas, btw - way to go for my city) made the right decision, and justified it exceedingly well. So many different legal questions under many different legal theories were addressed and multiple factors considered and the decision was as in our favor as much as it could be. This is amazingly good news, especially in a time when many technology based legal decisions go badly.
I am shocked at all the people attacking the ruling. Is Slashdot more anti-court than pro-freedom??
I hope this case sets a strong precendent.
He could still get a patent.
And at least his program (presumably) works.
Look at Patent 5488364
Not to mention a perfectly effective Digital Rights Management platform.
:)
No booting = no unauthorized use of content.
We do it with the British. It's called UKUSA.
And if there are no blind people that happen to be riding at the time, what's so bad about having a mute button you can use in that case?
That way you can have your cellphone conversation without being disturbed.
The Department of Homeland Security is going to hide backdoors in Open Source code???
They're the government, they're not magicians!
Remember how quickly the Linux kernel "uid=0" instead of "uid==0" exploit was found?
They could instead compromise a binary of gcc and do a Ken Thompson type hack where it miscompiles itself and system software to add backdoors, although even then, people would notice the different binaries and the miscompilations.
But at least that would be possible.
Why would the NSA need a back door when there are so many holes in the Windows (pun intended)?
I mean, if there are 1000 ways to hack into Windows, why would the NSA need to have Microsoft make a 1001st way?
Does 1.24 million support the work they intend to do? Saying they should spend more without a reason is dumb.
:)
You'll never make it in politics with THAT attitude.
(I hope this post isn't moderated as flamebait. I love Open Source Software, but there are serious problems in our community which need to be addressed. I am not an outsider attacking OSS to destroy, but a community member pointing out shortcomings to help preserve and improve it.)
Do most Open Source projects even do anything with bug reports?
Other than:
1. Ignore them.
2. Claim they are not bugs, but features.
3. Claim they are valid "design decisions".
4. Say they'll get around to fixing bugs when they are done adding features - e.g. they'll fix the root exploit to the FTP daemon after they add a 3D Open GL interface to it.
5. Say it won't be fixed. Bugzilla has a "WONTFIX" status which is used quite often.
6. Fix the bugs by wholesale destruction and replacement of whole sections of code, or even the whole code base - now you got all new bugs!
7. Claim the bug is in another piece of software or hardware and they're code is just the unfortunate victim.
8. Blame software patents, George Bush, Hurricane Katrina, Microsoft, little green men/women from Mars, sunspots, quantum time fluctuations or anything else for why they can't or won't fix it.
It's access control so (a different provision of) the DMCA applies.
And it is even stricter, certain actions regarding circumvention are illegal only against access control, not copy controls.
They need to be more open.
Who actually uses Google Talk and Google Mail?
I barely do, but I use Yahoo Mail and Yahoo Messenger extensively.
I believe there are many more that use Yahoo Messenger and Mail than the Google equivalents.
Google needs marketshare in those 2 areas - just cause they own search doesn't mean squat there.
They (the OSS community) should've trademarked "Open Source".
:)
Microsoft can say Windows is Open Source, I'm sure for an NDA and a few billion dollars they'd let you see it.