Heh, nah, it was a generic swipe at AbiWord if it was a swipe at anything other than the moderators. It wasn't anti-Mac/Mac-user in the slightest. Mac users pay lots more for their computers because they think that the extra costs are worth it. But now they're going to use something as terribly limited as AbiWord, just because it's free? If I were an AbiWord advocate, I would hope that there's a lot of improvment before they even think about presenting this to a large scale Mac audience, because they run the risk of turning them off forever.
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Hey, I'm not saying that they people who bought it are dummies and should repent for their sins or anything. But after all the hype about the PS2, don't you think the reaction to it has been pretty flat?
I don't do too much gaming, and when I do, it's on my PC (I haven't owned a console since the original NES). I've got a kickass home theater system now, though, and I'd like to see how the new generation consoles make use of it. It doesn't matter a whole lot to me whether or not it's also available for the PC as long as it looks great and sounds great snd is fun. If the XBox/Nintendo don't come out with much interesting, I'll probably end up not getting any of them.
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Re:PS2, what's the rush?
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But like you just said, "Right now I haven't seen any good games for PS2." That was my point. If I had a PS1, the ability to play my old games is a very strong selling point. But if there are no good games yet, why not keep using my PS1 until PS2 does have some compelling games, drops their price due to the coming competition, irons out all those problems they've been having, or one of the two new systems looks sufficiently sweet that I move to one of them?
(Glad to see some people were able to understand what I was trying to say despite the hideous grammar of my original post.)
All video game makers advertise ahead of time. Hell, Sony has already started whispering to the press about the PS3, and just because Nintendo isn't buying store space (And you know why they aren't? Because they've already got a system out there to sell, and they don't want to kill sales of it! Microsoft has no such worry) doesn't mean that they aren't making sure that the GameCube gets its own share of buzz. Your lame conspiracy theories weren't even good analogies.
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Nearly everything about the PS2 has screams "failure." When you look at the system, what about it or what games for it make you so eager to have one now and at the current price? I haven't seen a great game yet. I've heard nothing but problems about his thing and have no problem whatsoever waiting until the XBox or Nintendo's entry is out there to have at least one of the new generation systems to compare it to.
If you continue with that press release (or maybe a different one that they came out with), though, they state that IMUnified is going to implement the IETF's work when it becomes a reality.
You can go to www.imunified.org for some early information on it. The members include AT&T, Excite@home, MSN, Odigo, Phone.com, Prodigy, and Yahoo! AOL's been battling this all the way.
As for AOL, I think they should be able to do whatever they want with AIM/ICQ, since it's their product. Knock off the calls for regulation by government members who don't know anything about these technologies. BTW, this doesn't violate anything that they agreed to in order to merge with Time-Warner. The IM thing they agreed to was a very narrow clause about IM and high-speed networks, I believe. Possibly about high-speed wireless, I forget.
Really, though, I know that down the road they're going to want badly to interop with the clients above — they're only going to screw their own users once the other ones get popular, especially since MSN now has more people using their IM than are using AIM. The same thing's going to eventually happen to ICQ if they wall themselves off from everyone else.
Here's the really ironic thing about this particular situation, though. They were just complaining to the DoJ last Friday about the possibility of them being shut out by Microsoft's HailStorm initiative (which right now is planning to interop with IMUnified -- MS wants traffic through their system more than they care about whose client/OS you access it with, hence the recent talk about.NET stuff on other platforms). After AOL started up with this talk, AOL's blocking of non-AIM/ICQ users was brought up, and lo and behold, by Monday they come out with this hilarious rationalization: "AOL suggested that its efforts to open its instant-messaging system to rivals could be affected by Microsoft's attempt to incorporate the messaging service into its Web-based programs." AOL Executive VP Kenneth B. Lerer even says, "We are working toward interoperability with conviction and expect to be in a position to begin testing this summer." This latest move sure clears that up, don't it?:)
Since you want to pick an arbitrary date, let's look at the very peak of Microsoft's stock, December 1999. Yep, being down 54.7 perent is no fun, but then you look at the fact that NASDAQ is down 52.6 percent over that time and the darling duo RedHat and VA Linux are down 90+ percent over that time, and things look brighter. But oh no, one whole firm has downgraded them to a Hold? And if it was indeed Merrill Lynch, then that means it was Henry Blodget's call, he being the current Wall Street laughing stock and whipping boy for all his tech stock foolishness. The horrors.
As for the PocketPC, they must be doing something right to go from zero market share to 10% of the US market and 31% of the European market. Poor Palm dropped to 60% and 55% in those markets respectively, and with all the buzz that the iPaq's getting, they probably don't even want to think about what the market will look like next year. File that one under "Netscape, Part II."
And actually, the.NET framework has been available for anyone to download since MS released a preview of it last Fall. The beta of it along with the Visual Studio.NET beta have been available since last December. There are already beta versions of Perl and Python which work both with the framework and inside of Visual Studio.NET. HailStorm's the thing that's not available yet, so I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say that.NET hasn't even been described. If you're feeling like a good samaritan, maybe you could visit the ton of.NET links at www.devx.com/dotnet/resources/default.asp and let them all know that they're using vaporware.
I just find it so darned cute to see an OS with 4% of the desktop market get into a pissing contest with an OS with 1% of the desktop market over which one serves "the common man" the best.
Back to logic class with you. What difference does it make where the started? If people thought it sucked, it wouldn't be one of the top gainers. Just look at VA Linux, for example. They started this year at an all-time low, yet have managed to fall even farther. MS increased their desktop marketshare by 3% during 2000, while Linux was mired at 1%. Want to actually try making sense on the PDA thing? And.NET sure works great for being vaporware. Thanks for playing.
The anti-trust trial's going out with a whimper. Not just being overturned, but all of Judge Jackson's so-called "findings of facts" ripped to shreds.
Despite the overall tech downturn, Microsoft is one of the top gaining stocks this year, while Linux companies are hitting all-time lows.
Despite all the noise, Microsoft increased their percentage of the desktop marketplace, the server marketplace, and the PDA marketplace.
.NET and HailStorm, just by way of the companies that Microsoft is lining up to support it, seems to be upsetting quite a few people, with certain anti-Microsofties already crying to the DoJ.
Yeah, I'm not sure why anybody with deep pockets would invest in them, even moreso with all the budget-tightening and biz plan-reevaluating going on these days. Things like this need economy of scale to keep the prices as low and thus the margins as high as possible (unless they're planning on taking a loss on each machine and making it up by licensing games/services — but that runs into the huge problem of what the incentive would be for a gamemaker to port to this platform), but what reason is there to think that there's a large audience for such a system given the competition? What games are going to be available for this system to draw people in?
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Yup, where are the HailStorm or Safari stories?
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I mean, seriously, to post about a Linux company's troubles is like to post an article about the sun coming up in the morning. Let's talk about something new.
As far as Safari goes, is it possible that I just missed the article on it? I can't believe that Slashdot wouldn't mention something this big.
If you haven't seen it yet, it's O'Reilly's plan (they've already started) to put all their books online and offer different subscription plans to use them (links: "Safari itself, and about the design of Safari). There are so many things to discuss about this approach (which seems pretty innovative), from simply whether or not it will work. I'm definitely interested and almost signed up for it last night. Anybody taken the plunge yet? (The lowest plan is $9.95/month, if you don't feel like checking out the link.)
And whether you like it or not, HailStorm could change everything from the way that we know it. The fact that AOL and Sun were courting government officials for breakfast to talk about new anti-trust action two days before Microsoft even announced this should tell you how seriously they're taking it. There's a ton of different angles that it could be talked about, whether it's positive, negative, or how other organizations could work with it or duplicate it, but I guess Slashdot is waiting for an appropriately negative article about it before they mention it.;)
The people who think that PHP is as powerful an environment as ASP (much less ASP.net) are the same people who can't figure out why people would use Oracle when MySQL is free.
Maybe technically, but in reality most people mean the IIS/MS kind.
What? That didn't even make any sense. Did you even bother cracking that book open past Chapter 1: A Dynamic Web Page Saying "Hello, World!"? Please, just stop now.
Your post made it abundantly clear that you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about. What's this ASP language that you're talking about? Perlscript? Python?
Seriously, I'm just extremely curious why you'd even want to post on this subject when you don't understand it. Boredom? Masochism? The thrill of trolling?
(1) They said users, not usernames. (2) You're free to go ask Media Metrix what their methodologies are. Reuters states that "The Media Matrix data measured only the number of people who used an instant messaging program." Doesn't sound like usernames to me. (3) I have no beef with you, but in the future, don't start off a post with "Uh, you *do* realize..." and then later on try to come off as someone who's above flaming.
Oh yeah, and if I were trying to plug something, I'd point to some more informative links than that InfoWorld article. It doesn't really seem like they get it. I only linked to it in case people had never heard of Hailstorm. Couldn't help but mention Hailstorm since the announcment tomorrow is the reason why AOL's doing this all of a sudden.
SOAP is only a pro-Microsoft thing insofar as they have done a lot of work on it while a lot of people have sat on the sidelines missing the big picture and yapping about inconsequential things. As for Bruce Schneier, his thoughts sound pretty outdated — I wonder if he's corrected them since then. See, people already can do funky stuff over HTTP that firewall users that aren't very clueful don't know about. SOAP's nothing new in that aspect. And a good firewall can filter that anyway.
Hailstorm and the panic mode that hit them when they realized MSN Messenger now has more users than AIM. They want to get ahead of the game and make sure that the same thing doesn't happen to ICQ.
This gets announced the day before Microsoft's Hailstorm announcment, where Microsoft starts letting out some details to show why AOL better get their act together. Combine that with the fact that MSN Messenger now has more users than AIM, and it sounds like AOL's begging for free help from the open source community to save them from Microsoft and Hailstorm.
"Maybe on the planet you are on nobody blames the users of napster but on this planet people blamed the users of napster more then napster itself (for the right reasons I might add). Can I buy a ticket to your planet it sounds very nice.
How 'bout on this planet you try reading my post again until you understand it? You just gave what I wrote an interpretation that is exactly opposite of what those words up on the screen mean. I don't mind replying to a future post of yours if you correctly represent what I'm saying, but I'm not going to bother if you're not going to bother.
Maybe they chose "-1, Troll" because Slashdot hasn't made "-1, Completely False" an option yet?How would you have suggested it be moderated?
Cheers,
Heh, nah, it was a generic swipe at AbiWord if it was a swipe at anything other than the moderators. It wasn't anti-Mac/Mac-user in the slightest. Mac users pay lots more for their computers because they think that the extra costs are worth it. But now they're going to use something as terribly limited as AbiWord, just because it's free? If I were an AbiWord advocate, I would hope that there's a lot of improvment before they even think about presenting this to a large scale Mac audience, because they run the risk of turning them off forever.
Cheers,
Hey, I'm not saying that they people who bought it are dummies and should repent for their sins or anything. But after all the hype about the PS2, don't you think the reaction to it has been pretty flat?
I don't do too much gaming, and when I do, it's on my PC (I haven't owned a console since the original NES). I've got a kickass home theater system now, though, and I'd like to see how the new generation consoles make use of it. It doesn't matter a whole lot to me whether or not it's also available for the PC as long as it looks great and sounds great snd is fun. If the XBox/Nintendo don't come out with much interesting, I'll probably end up not getting any of them.
Cheers,
But like you just said, "Right now I haven't seen any good games for PS2." That was my point. If I had a PS1, the ability to play my old games is a very strong selling point. But if there are no good games yet, why not keep using my PS1 until PS2 does have some compelling games, drops their price due to the coming competition, irons out all those problems they've been having, or one of the two new systems looks sufficiently sweet that I move to one of them?
(Glad to see some people were able to understand what I was trying to say despite the hideous grammar of my original post.)
Cheers,
All video game makers advertise ahead of time. Hell, Sony has already started whispering to the press about the PS3, and just because Nintendo isn't buying store space (And you know why they aren't? Because they've already got a system out there to sell, and they don't want to kill sales of it! Microsoft has no such worry) doesn't mean that they aren't making sure that the GameCube gets its own share of buzz. Your lame conspiracy theories weren't even good analogies.
Cheers,
Nearly everything about the PS2 has screams "failure." When you look at the system, what about it or what games for it make you so eager to have one now and at the current price? I haven't seen a great game yet. I've heard nothing but problems about his thing and have no problem whatsoever waiting until the XBox or Nintendo's entry is out there to have at least one of the new generation systems to compare it to.
Cheers,
If you continue with that press release (or maybe a different one that they came out with), though, they state that IMUnified is going to implement the IETF's work when it becomes a reality.
Cheers,
I seriously doubt either has fully surpassed that gap since, but I admit it may be closing.
Ahh, but Jupiter released new numbers just last week. Consider it closed, surpassed, and game over. :)
Cheers,
You can go to www.imunified.org for some early information on it. The members include AT&T, Excite@home, MSN, Odigo, Phone.com, Prodigy, and Yahoo! AOL's been battling this all the way.
As for AOL, I think they should be able to do whatever they want with AIM/ICQ, since it's their product. Knock off the calls for regulation by government members who don't know anything about these technologies. BTW, this doesn't violate anything that they agreed to in order to merge with Time-Warner. The IM thing they agreed to was a very narrow clause about IM and high-speed networks, I believe. Possibly about high-speed wireless, I forget.
Really, though, I know that down the road they're going to want badly to interop with the clients above — they're only going to screw their own users once the other ones get popular, especially since MSN now has more people using their IM than are using AIM. The same thing's going to eventually happen to ICQ if they wall themselves off from everyone else.
Here's the really ironic thing about this particular situation, though. They were just complaining to the DoJ last Friday about the possibility of them being shut out by Microsoft's HailStorm initiative (which right now is planning to interop with IMUnified -- MS wants traffic through their system more than they care about whose client/OS you access it with, hence the recent talk about .NET stuff on other platforms). After AOL started up with this talk, AOL's blocking of non-AIM/ICQ users was brought up, and lo and behold, by Monday they come out with this hilarious rationalization: "AOL suggested that its efforts to open its instant-messaging system to rivals could be affected by Microsoft's attempt to incorporate the messaging service into its Web-based programs." AOL Executive VP Kenneth B. Lerer even says, "We are working toward interoperability with conviction and expect to be in a position to begin testing this summer." This latest move sure clears that up, don't it? :)
Cheers,
Since you want to pick an arbitrary date, let's look at the very peak of Microsoft's stock, December 1999. Yep, being down 54.7 perent is no fun, but then you look at the fact that NASDAQ is down 52.6 percent over that time and the darling duo RedHat and VA Linux are down 90+ percent over that time, and things look brighter. But oh no, one whole firm has downgraded them to a Hold? And if it was indeed Merrill Lynch, then that means it was Henry Blodget's call, he being the current Wall Street laughing stock and whipping boy for all his tech stock foolishness. The horrors.
As for the PocketPC, they must be doing something right to go from zero market share to 10% of the US market and 31% of the European market. Poor Palm dropped to 60% and 55% in those markets respectively, and with all the buzz that the iPaq's getting, they probably don't even want to think about what the market will look like next year. File that one under "Netscape, Part II."
And actually, the .NET framework has been available for anyone to download since MS released a preview of it last Fall. The beta of it along with the Visual Studio.NET beta have been available since last December. There are already beta versions of Perl and Python which work both with the framework and inside of Visual Studio.NET. HailStorm's the thing that's not available yet, so I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say that .NET hasn't even been described. If you're feeling like a good samaritan, maybe you could visit the ton of .NET links at www.devx.com/dotnet/resources/default.asp and let them all know that they're using vaporware.
Cheers,
I just find it so darned cute to see an OS with 4% of the desktop market get into a pissing contest with an OS with 1% of the desktop market over which one serves "the common man" the best.
Cheers,
Back to logic class with you. What difference does it make where the started? If people thought it sucked, it wouldn't be one of the top gainers. Just look at VA Linux, for example. They started this year at an all-time low, yet have managed to fall even farther. MS increased their desktop marketshare by 3% during 2000, while Linux was mired at 1%. Want to actually try making sense on the PDA thing? And .NET sure works great for being vaporware. Thanks for playing.
Cheers,
It's gotta be painful for him to realize that
- The anti-trust trial's going out with a whimper. Not just being overturned, but all of Judge Jackson's so-called "findings of facts" ripped to shreds.
- Despite the overall tech downturn, Microsoft is one of the top gaining stocks this year, while Linux companies are hitting all-time lows.
- Despite all the noise, Microsoft increased their percentage of the desktop marketplace, the server marketplace, and the PDA marketplace.
- .NET and HailStorm, just by way of the companies that Microsoft is lining up to support it, seems to be upsetting quite a few people, with certain anti-Microsofties already crying to the DoJ.
Fuckin' beautiful.Cheers,
Yeah, I'm not sure why anybody with deep pockets would invest in them, even moreso with all the budget-tightening and biz plan-reevaluating going on these days. Things like this need economy of scale to keep the prices as low and thus the margins as high as possible (unless they're planning on taking a loss on each machine and making it up by licensing games/services — but that runs into the huge problem of what the incentive would be for a gamemaker to port to this platform), but what reason is there to think that there's a large audience for such a system given the competition? What games are going to be available for this system to draw people in?
Cheers,
I mean, seriously, to post about a Linux company's troubles is like to post an article about the sun coming up in the morning. Let's talk about something new.
As far as Safari goes, is it possible that I just missed the article on it? I can't believe that Slashdot wouldn't mention something this big. If you haven't seen it yet, it's O'Reilly's plan (they've already started) to put all their books online and offer different subscription plans to use them (links: "Safari itself, and about the design of Safari). There are so many things to discuss about this approach (which seems pretty innovative), from simply whether or not it will work. I'm definitely interested and almost signed up for it last night. Anybody taken the plunge yet? (The lowest plan is $9.95/month, if you don't feel like checking out the link.)
And whether you like it or not, HailStorm could change everything from the way that we know it. The fact that AOL and Sun were courting government officials for breakfast to talk about new anti-trust action two days before Microsoft even announced this should tell you how seriously they're taking it. There's a ton of different angles that it could be talked about, whether it's positive, negative, or how other organizations could work with it or duplicate it, but I guess Slashdot is waiting for an appropriately negative article about it before they mention it. ;)
Cheers,
The people who think that PHP is as powerful an environment as ASP (much less ASP.net) are the same people who can't figure out why people would use Oracle when MySQL is free.
Cheers,
Maybe technically, but in reality most people mean the IIS/MS kind.
What? That didn't even make any sense. Did you even bother cracking that book open past Chapter 1: A Dynamic Web Page Saying "Hello, World!"? Please, just stop now.
Cheers,
Your post made it abundantly clear that you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about. What's this ASP language that you're talking about? Perlscript? Python?
Seriously, I'm just extremely curious why you'd even want to post on this subject when you don't understand it. Boredom? Masochism? The thrill of trolling?
Cheers,
Hey, if you take pride in not understanding the English language, best of luck to ya.
Cheers,
(1) They said users, not usernames. (2) You're free to go ask Media Metrix what their methodologies are. Reuters states that "The Media Matrix data measured only the number of people who used an instant messaging program." Doesn't sound like usernames to me. (3) I have no beef with you, but in the future, don't start off a post with "Uh, you *do* realize ..." and then later on try to come off as someone who's above flaming.
Cheers,
Oh yeah, and if I were trying to plug something, I'd point to some more informative links than that InfoWorld article. It doesn't really seem like they get it. I only linked to it in case people had never heard of Hailstorm. Couldn't help but mention Hailstorm since the announcment tomorrow is the reason why AOL's doing this all of a sudden.
Cheers,
SOAP is only a pro-Microsoft thing insofar as they have done a lot of work on it while a lot of people have sat on the sidelines missing the big picture and yapping about inconsequential things. As for Bruce Schneier, his thoughts sound pretty outdated — I wonder if he's corrected them since then. See, people already can do funky stuff over HTTP that firewall users that aren't very clueful don't know about. SOAP's nothing new in that aspect. And a good firewall can filter that anyway.
Cheers,
Hailstorm and the panic mode that hit them when they realized MSN Messenger now has more users than AIM. They want to get ahead of the game and make sure that the same thing doesn't happen to ICQ.
Cheers,
This gets announced the day before Microsoft's Hailstorm announcment, where Microsoft starts letting out some details to show why AOL better get their act together. Combine that with the fact that MSN Messenger now has more users than AIM, and it sounds like AOL's begging for free help from the open source community to save them from Microsoft and Hailstorm.
Cheers,
"Maybe on the planet you are on nobody blames the users of napster but on this planet people blamed the users of napster more then napster itself (for the right reasons I might add). Can I buy a ticket to your planet it sounds very nice.
How 'bout on this planet you try reading my post again until you understand it? You just gave what I wrote an interpretation that is exactly opposite of what those words up on the screen mean. I don't mind replying to a future post of yours if you correctly represent what I'm saying, but I'm not going to bother if you're not going to bother.
Cheers,