Re:Please stop repeating this lie.
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I'm not anal about version numbers either, but there are two things which make this case worth mentioning:
Slashdotters love to bitch about Microsoft doing it, but generally don't seem to mind one bit when it's Mozilla.
Microsoft's version numbers are often marketing-based, but they aren't lies like the "Netscape 5.0 was the version we dumped" revision being paraded about by Mozilla defenders.
It's a simple fact that Mozilla itself referred to the upcoming version as 5.0. They only tried to change history just recently after getting ridiculed for skipping the version number. To accept their take on events in this situation, and to further go around and promote that version of history is either complete gullibility or pure intellectual dishonesty.
LOL, you're proud of that? Windows 95 was an incredible success, while HURD has been a complete flop, even among the nerd crowd.
Wait, wait. LOL! Heh, sorry.
Cheers, ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Please stop repeating this lie.
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Mozilla.org still has pages on its own site referring to the upcoming release (the one with the Gecko engine) as being version 5.0. Since they themselves weren't referring to the version they dumped as Netscape 5, your explanation is just an exercise in revisionist history. Everybody knows the real reason why it's version 6 -- to make it sound better than IE5 -- so please quit trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes on this.
Cheers, ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Re:Freedom is a multi-edged sword
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Well, it seems like a lot of people took my post as a point about flag-burning. It wasn't. I've never done it, and I certainly don't plan to, and I can definitely empathize with veterans who think otherwise, but I think it should remain a constitutionally-protected right. (Of course, it would be nice if the liberal wankers so in favor of maintaining the right to burn the U.S. flag would get a reality check and get some consistency and quit stomping all over our other rights. E.g., racial/gender issues, politically correct censorship, the right to bear arms, etc.)
The point of my post was a comment upon the original poster presenting his group of people looking for DVD access rights as wonderful defenders of freedom while taking a gratuitous swipe at a group of people who have actually put their own lives on the line to defend their country.
And 16 years after that, the GNU project still hasn't managed to produce HURD kernel that could compete with a ColecoVision. Great development model they've got there.
On another note, the hordes of veterans seen swarming the Capitol yesterday were there to lend their support for the anti-American Flag desecration Constitutional amendment. Kinda ironic considering we were defending freedom,and they were there to, in a way, curtail it.
Yeah, let's criticize the people who have risked their lives to uphold our freedom. I'm sure their testicular fortitude is no match for 20 Slashdotters who are upset because they can't watch the DVDs that mommy brought back from Japan.
And people say that the kids around here have no sense of proportion. Go figure.
I visited your web page, and I think you're just bitter because you have one of the ugliest web pages known to man. Perhaps you're taking angry potshots at people who give their pages an attractive design because you have no such aptitude?
I'm interested in replies from anybody who has visited mill's web page and thinks that his is a voice worth listening to on the subject of creating web pages.
Everybody gets sick of stuff they hear all the time, whether it's Brittney Spears or "Cha-ching!" However, you don't very often see people going around vandalizing property over it. The reaction that this article (and many others that you can find at the SF Weekly or SF Gate) is talking about is a different phenomenon.
Namely, it's all about jealousy and class warfare and the incredibly immature (although we've probably all done it at some point) "I got here first, so I'm better" attitude.
Jealousy and class warfare? This shouldn't come as any surprise to anyone anywhere, but San Francisco (no, I refuse to call it "The City") is particularly notorious for it. The bonus is that it takes no thought whatsoever to join this movement -- just go after anything that looks like a yuppie status symbol: in order, the pager, the cell phone, the SUV, and San Francisco real estate.
An aside: I never really understood why yuppie youth thought they were cool because they carried a pager on their belt. To me, it's saying, "Yeah, I lack so much independence that I have to be at the beck and call of other people 24 hours a day." But I digress.
As for the third attitude I mentioned, it's hardly unique to San Francisco, but they seem to do it better than just about anyone save possibly New York City dwellers. Recently, a decent number of gay folks thought it would be fun to start vandalizing people's cars, because too many straight people were moving into their neighborhoods. (How's that for discriminatory irony!) You see it among the Slackers of NYC, too, because the mayor actually had to gall to make run down areas like Times Square safe for families to visit at night. Gasp! This definitely isn't limited to real estate, either, if you've ever heard anyone whine "Man, BandX and TVshowX were so cool, but now they suck because a lot of people like them. Mainstream bastards!"
In the interest of full disclosure, I should state that we're one of the groups that has moved into a place that was vacated by an organization mentioned elsewhere in this thread at Slashdot because they could no longer afford the rent. It still wouldn't change my opinion on this, though, as I've never been harrassed over it, nor has any of my property been vandalized.
I will say, however, that the San Francisco land grab is pretty ironic. Technology, and more specifically, the Internet, are supposed to increase our abilities to work together remotely, yet we're all fighting to squeeze into San Francisco, and paying through the nose for the honor.
And to JDax, since I didn't get a chance to reply last night: Hell, I wasn't going to blame Linux for bad weather forecasting, I was going to blame it for the bad weather itself! Global warming, the recent spate of droughts, floods, and natural disasters: all can be traced back to Torvalds and Cox. It's true!:)
The U.S. Postal Service? C'mon, couldn't you have gone and picked an organization held in higher regard than the USPS? Like, say, oh I dunno, ValuJet, CyberPromotions, or maybe Juggs Magazine?:)
When's the last time you've heard anyone exalting the USPS for great and efficient service? Never, you say? There's a reason for that: It sucks! (Hmmm, could Linux be the reason?;) )
Let's not even get started on the people there and their violent and emotionally unstable tendencies, so much so that the term "He's gone postal" is well entrenched in the national lexicon. Who knows, maybe they went to Linux after ESR gave one of his raving gun nut speeches -- "You too can stock your underground bunker to the teeth with guns with all the money you'll save on the price of the OS!" Aha!
Next week on Slashdot: NAMBLA to switch their databases over to MySQL on Linux!
Heh, I really hope you didn't take it the wrong way. There aren't all too many ways of saying, "I don't think you know what you're talking about" in a delicate way, but I hope you can see why I had my doubts from what I quoted. Your reply helped to clear things up. If you've ever stumbled upon my user info, you'd see that I'm no stranger to being moderated down for flaming the bloody hell out of people talking garbage around here, and I'm sure I won't be a stranger to it in the future either, but I didn't think you had any malicious intent in what you wrote, so I really was trying to get my point across without stirring things up (As was the case with that seemingly nice British guy who also replied to me in this thread). Again, I hope you didn't feel truly flamed, I was just trying for a little heat around the edges.:)
The only way to get to the features of the OS is by using VBScript.
This is exactly what I was talking about with the previous poster. What you said is completely untrue. Every, and I mean every, OS feature that you can access with VBScript can be accessed with JavaScript or Perl or Python, among others -- they're free to use the Windows Scripting Host model just as VBScript does. It's been like this for years, which makes me think that your company didn't do a very good job of hiring if they were looking for an NT admin who was familiar with its features. I'm sorry for the bluntness -- I'm sure you have other skill sets at which you're a lot better than you are with NT -- but that's just the way I see it.
Cheers, ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
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Has Apple totally abandoned the low-end server market?
Yes, and the high-end server market. And the gaming market. And the business market. And the educational market. And the PDA market. And pretty much every other market except the publishing market and the I-don't-care-what's-inside-my-computer-as-long-as- it-looks-real-purty-and-has-a-one-button -hockey-puck-for-a-mouse market. Did I leave any out?
Hell, I was just wondering how many iMac users would still feel comfortable hugging their Macs g'night each night if they were in a rack instead of their cute little smiling iMac cases.:)
I've got nits to pick with the rest of what you said, but I'd like to focus on your last remark:
Now what were the drawbacks to Open Source?
By this, I'm assuming that you're putting the human genetic condition up on a pedestal. Are you really all that confident that things have developed in the best way possible?
Forget chromosomal, mitochondrial, or multifactorial genetic disorders -- serious single-gene disorders alone are estimated to have an incidence of about 1 in every 300 births. Not exactly something to write home about, there.
Hi, I've noticed a number of posts from you on this topic criticizing ASP solutions, but these three little lines of yours should give anyone serious doubts about your credibility in this area:
I've heard numerous similar comments about PHP vs ASP. VBscript is a mess and both JScript and VBScript are feature-poor languages. Does anyone want to spend time fighting their environment instead of building their application?
In other words, if you really think that ASP pages can only be scripted with JScript or VBScript, as opposed to Perl or Python or something else, there's no way that you can have much knowledge about ASP.
Not that I'm slagging PHP, I use it as well, and for the things it does, it does them very well. (At least PHP3 does. PHP4 shows promise, but I'm not too happy with it in real world usage. Of course, it's still in beta, so that's not entirely unexpected.) However, seeing someone repeatedly make seemingly authoritative posts on something with which they aren't very familiar just rubs me the wrong way. Not trying to be overly harsh, but I wanted to point this out.
Except there's a little problem with your scenario. Cobalt has a market cap of a piddly $1.36 billon, meaning Bill Gates could buy them with the spare change found in his couch. COBT owning Chili!Soft won't stop Microsoft from buying COBT itself if they want ownership of Chili!Soft's work.
The real reason behind companies like Cobalt (and especially VA Linux) buying up all these other companies, just like Microsoft has done, is not rocket science -- it's proof that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. No matter how much they'll try to sucker you into believing otherwise, and no matter how often you'll let them succeed in doing just that (see Sun Microsystems), the goal remains the same: They all want to be the next Microsoft.
First of all, Apache is an awesome web browser. 60% of the web sites are served using Apache.
Of course, Linux has a userbase of maybe around 3% of computer users. I'll leave it to the original poster to decide what that says about Linux's "awesomeness" or lack of it.
I mistyped. I'm sure you knew what I meant, but just to clear it up, I meant to say, "I'm not saying that you download things for which you don't already own the disc..."
Damn, I'm feeling like osu-neko now. Hopefully I won't have to reply again to correct this post.;)
I'd be more receptive to your argument, but the premise on which you're basing it is completely false. People overall around here don't complain about the RIAA frowning on the free trade of MP3s because they're looking to collect MP3s of songs for which they already own the disc. Unless you're in denial, then you know that. They're complaining because, like warez kiddies, they think it's okay to download whatever song they feel like, artist/record company/etc. be damned. If that is the kind of ethics they have, I'm not going to stop them, but spare me the angst and tears when someone brings up the possibility of a company ripping off GPL'd code.
Just to make it clear, I'm not saying that you download things for which you already own the disc, but you have to know that you're way in the minority around here.
On a final note, who is the stupid gimp that marked my original post as "Offtopic?" I replied directly to the poster's comments about the possiblity of people ripping off GPL software. If you didn't mark his as offtopic, I'm curious how you decided that my post was. Oh well, for being a site where so many people profess their individuality, there sure do seem to be an awful lot of people who can't wait to squelch any posts which don't conform to the Slashdot Groupthink.
It's hard to go an entire day without seeing some Slashdotter raging at the RIAA for trying to protect their investments. For people here to question any other company ripping off GPL'd code is more than a little hypocritical. The typical Slashdotter is far from having the moral high ground on any IP issues.
Good reply, timothy -- thanks. I still think you choosing the submission that you did to be a poor move. Quite a few times in the past, when Slashdot would receive a lot of submissions of the same story, the staff just posted the news themselves, instead of quoting anyone's submission. The only real value in the one you posted was the link itself, and all the off-topic dishonest flamage only served to give the same tenor to the following posts. I appreciate the reply, though.
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I'm not anal about version numbers either, but there are two things which make this case worth mentioning:
It's a simple fact that Mozilla itself referred to the upcoming version as 5.0. They only tried to change history just recently after getting ridiculed for skipping the version number. To accept their take on events in this situation, and to further go around and promote that version of history is either complete gullibility or pure intellectual dishonesty.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
LOL, you're proud of that? Windows 95 was an incredible success, while HURD has been a complete flop, even among the nerd crowd.
Wait, wait. LOL! Heh, sorry.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Mozilla.org still has pages on its own site referring to the upcoming release (the one with the Gecko engine) as being version 5.0. Since they themselves weren't referring to the version they dumped as Netscape 5, your explanation is just an exercise in revisionist history. Everybody knows the real reason why it's version 6 -- to make it sound better than IE5 -- so please quit trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes on this.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Well, it seems like a lot of people took my post as a point about flag-burning. It wasn't. I've never done it, and I certainly don't plan to, and I can definitely empathize with veterans who think otherwise, but I think it should remain a constitutionally-protected right. (Of course, it would be nice if the liberal wankers so in favor of maintaining the right to burn the U.S. flag would get a reality check and get some consistency and quit stomping all over our other rights. E.g., racial/gender issues, politically correct censorship, the right to bear arms, etc.)
The point of my post was a comment upon the original poster presenting his group of people looking for DVD access rights as wonderful defenders of freedom while taking a gratuitous swipe at a group of people who have actually put their own lives on the line to defend their country.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Cute, but it would've been funnier if you had used a pun of some Perl feature that isn't a part of the Windows version of Perl.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
And 16 years after that, the GNU project still hasn't managed to produce HURD kernel that could compete with a ColecoVision. Great development model they've got there.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
I don't know about the rest, but the Windows version of Perl currently has some non-trivial problems compared to its Unix/Linux cousin.
Your statement sounds pretty dubious. Care to name some?
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
On another note, the hordes of veterans seen swarming the Capitol yesterday were there to lend their support for the anti-American Flag desecration Constitutional amendment. Kinda ironic considering we were defending freedom,and they were there to, in a way, curtail it.
Yeah, let's criticize the people who have risked their lives to uphold our freedom. I'm sure their testicular fortitude is no match for 20 Slashdotters who are upset because they can't watch the DVDs that mommy brought back from Japan.
And people say that the kids around here have no sense of proportion. Go figure.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
1991: copy of ~20 year-old OS.
2000: copy of ~30 year-old OS, with wheelmouse support.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
I visited your web page, and I think you're just bitter because you have one of the ugliest web pages known to man. Perhaps you're taking angry potshots at people who give their pages an attractive design because you have no such aptitude?
I'm interested in replies from anybody who has visited mill's web page and thinks that his is a voice worth listening to on the subject of creating web pages.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
(Whoa, I'm replying to a JDax post! ;-) )
Everybody gets sick of stuff they hear all the time, whether it's Brittney Spears or "Cha-ching!" However, you don't very often see people going around vandalizing property over it. The reaction that this article (and many others that you can find at the SF Weekly or SF Gate) is talking about is a different phenomenon.
Namely, it's all about jealousy and class warfare and the incredibly immature (although we've probably all done it at some point) "I got here first, so I'm better" attitude.
Jealousy and class warfare? This shouldn't come as any surprise to anyone anywhere, but San Francisco (no, I refuse to call it "The City") is particularly notorious for it. The bonus is that it takes no thought whatsoever to join this movement -- just go after anything that looks like a yuppie status symbol: in order, the pager, the cell phone, the SUV, and San Francisco real estate.
An aside: I never really understood why yuppie youth thought they were cool because they carried a pager on their belt. To me, it's saying, "Yeah, I lack so much independence that I have to be at the beck and call of other people 24 hours a day." But I digress.
As for the third attitude I mentioned, it's hardly unique to San Francisco, but they seem to do it better than just about anyone save possibly New York City dwellers. Recently, a decent number of gay folks thought it would be fun to start vandalizing people's cars, because too many straight people were moving into their neighborhoods. (How's that for discriminatory irony!) You see it among the Slackers of NYC, too, because the mayor actually had to gall to make run down areas like Times Square safe for families to visit at night. Gasp! This definitely isn't limited to real estate, either, if you've ever heard anyone whine "Man, BandX and TVshowX were so cool, but now they suck because a lot of people like them. Mainstream bastards!"
In the interest of full disclosure, I should state that we're one of the groups that has moved into a place that was vacated by an organization mentioned elsewhere in this thread at Slashdot because they could no longer afford the rent. It still wouldn't change my opinion on this, though, as I've never been harrassed over it, nor has any of my property been vandalized.
I will say, however, that the San Francisco land grab is pretty ironic. Technology, and more specifically, the Internet, are supposed to increase our abilities to work together remotely, yet we're all fighting to squeeze into San Francisco, and paying through the nose for the honor.
And to JDax, since I didn't get a chance to reply last night: Hell, I wasn't going to blame Linux for bad weather forecasting, I was going to blame it for the bad weather itself! Global warming, the recent spate of droughts, floods, and natural disasters: all can be traced back to Torvalds and Cox. It's true! :)
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Why is it that so many trolls are on the Hemos is a child molester trip.
Most of the good troll opportunities went out the window after Sengan left. Give it some time, I'm sure things will diversify naturally. :)
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
The U.S. Postal Service? C'mon, couldn't you have gone and picked an organization held in higher regard than the USPS? Like, say, oh I dunno, ValuJet, CyberPromotions, or maybe Juggs Magazine? :)
When's the last time you've heard anyone exalting the USPS for great and efficient service? Never, you say? There's a reason for that: It sucks! (Hmmm, could Linux be the reason? ;) )
Let's not even get started on the people there and their violent and emotionally unstable tendencies, so much so that the term "He's gone postal" is well entrenched in the national lexicon. Who knows, maybe they went to Linux after ESR gave one of his raving gun nut speeches -- "You too can stock your underground bunker to the teeth with guns with all the money you'll save on the price of the OS!" Aha!
Next week on Slashdot: NAMBLA to switch their databases over to MySQL on Linux!
Ahhh, the possibilities abound... :)
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Nice flame!
Heh, I really hope you didn't take it the wrong way. There aren't all too many ways of saying, "I don't think you know what you're talking about" in a delicate way, but I hope you can see why I had my doubts from what I quoted. Your reply helped to clear things up. If you've ever stumbled upon my user info, you'd see that I'm no stranger to being moderated down for flaming the bloody hell out of people talking garbage around here, and I'm sure I won't be a stranger to it in the future either, but I didn't think you had any malicious intent in what you wrote, so I really was trying to get my point across without stirring things up (As was the case with that seemingly nice British guy who also replied to me in this thread). Again, I hope you didn't feel truly flamed, I was just trying for a little heat around the edges. :)
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
And since when did sheer numbers have anything to do with quality?
Uh, that would be since the original poster implied that Apache must be good since it has a 60% share.
Congratulations on having my earlier post fly completely over your head.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
The only way to get to the features of the OS is by using VBScript.
This is exactly what I was talking about with the previous poster. What you said is completely untrue. Every, and I mean every, OS feature that you can access with VBScript can be accessed with JavaScript or Perl or Python, among others -- they're free to use the Windows Scripting Host model just as VBScript does. It's been like this for years, which makes me think that your company didn't do a very good job of hiring if they were looking for an NT admin who was familiar with its features. I'm sorry for the bluntness -- I'm sure you have other skill sets at which you're a lot better than you are with NT -- but that's just the way I see it.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Has Apple totally abandoned the low-end server market?
Yes, and the high-end server market. And the gaming market. And the business market. And the educational market. And the PDA market. And pretty much every other market except the publishing market and the I-don't-care-what's-inside-my-computer-as-long-as- it-looks-real-purty-and-has-a-one-button -hockey-puck-for-a-mouse market. Did I leave any out?
Hell, I was just wondering how many iMac users would still feel comfortable hugging their Macs g'night each night if they were in a rack instead of their cute little smiling iMac cases. :)
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
I've got nits to pick with the rest of what you said, but I'd like to focus on your last remark:
By this, I'm assuming that you're putting the human genetic condition up on a pedestal. Are you really all that confident that things have developed in the best way possible?
Forget chromosomal, mitochondrial, or multifactorial genetic disorders -- serious single-gene disorders alone are estimated to have an incidence of about 1 in every 300 births. Not exactly something to write home about, there.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Hi, I've noticed a number of posts from you on this topic criticizing ASP solutions, but these three little lines of yours should give anyone serious doubts about your credibility in this area:
In other words, if you really think that ASP pages can only be scripted with JScript or VBScript, as opposed to Perl or Python or something else, there's no way that you can have much knowledge about ASP.Not that I'm slagging PHP, I use it as well, and for the things it does, it does them very well. (At least PHP3 does. PHP4 shows promise, but I'm not too happy with it in real world usage. Of course, it's still in beta, so that's not entirely unexpected.) However, seeing someone repeatedly make seemingly authoritative posts on something with which they aren't very familiar just rubs me the wrong way. Not trying to be overly harsh, but I wanted to point this out.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Except there's a little problem with your scenario. Cobalt has a market cap of a piddly $1.36 billon, meaning Bill Gates could buy them with the spare change found in his couch. COBT owning Chili!Soft won't stop Microsoft from buying COBT itself if they want ownership of Chili!Soft's work.
The real reason behind companies like Cobalt (and especially VA Linux) buying up all these other companies, just like Microsoft has done, is not rocket science -- it's proof that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. No matter how much they'll try to sucker you into believing otherwise, and no matter how often you'll let them succeed in doing just that (see Sun Microsystems), the goal remains the same: They all want to be the next Microsoft.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
First of all, Apache is an awesome web browser. 60% of the web sites are served using Apache.
Of course, Linux has a userbase of maybe around 3% of computer users. I'll leave it to the original poster to decide what that says about Linux's "awesomeness" or lack of it.
Consistency, my dear Slashdotters, consistency.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
I mistyped. I'm sure you knew what I meant, but just to clear it up, I meant to say, "I'm not saying that you download things for which you don't already own the disc..."
Damn, I'm feeling like osu-neko now. Hopefully I won't have to reply again to correct this post. ;)
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
I'd be more receptive to your argument, but the premise on which you're basing it is completely false. People overall around here don't complain about the RIAA frowning on the free trade of MP3s because they're looking to collect MP3s of songs for which they already own the disc. Unless you're in denial, then you know that. They're complaining because, like warez kiddies, they think it's okay to download whatever song they feel like, artist/record company/etc. be damned. If that is the kind of ethics they have, I'm not going to stop them, but spare me the angst and tears when someone brings up the possibility of a company ripping off GPL'd code.
Just to make it clear, I'm not saying that you download things for which you already own the disc, but you have to know that you're way in the minority around here.
On a final note, who is the stupid gimp that marked my original post as "Offtopic?" I replied directly to the poster's comments about the possiblity of people ripping off GPL software. If you didn't mark his as offtopic, I'm curious how you decided that my post was. Oh well, for being a site where so many people profess their individuality, there sure do seem to be an awful lot of people who can't wait to squelch any posts which don't conform to the Slashdot Groupthink.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
It's hard to go an entire day without seeing some Slashdotter raging at the RIAA for trying to protect their investments. For people here to question any other company ripping off GPL'd code is more than a little hypocritical. The typical Slashdotter is far from having the moral high ground on any IP issues.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Good reply, timothy -- thanks. I still think you choosing the submission that you did to be a poor move. Quite a few times in the past, when Slashdot would receive a lot of submissions of the same story, the staff just posted the news themselves, instead of quoting anyone's submission. The only real value in the one you posted was the link itself, and all the off-topic dishonest flamage only served to give the same tenor to the following posts. I appreciate the reply, though.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com