You seem mad. I see that the comment you're linking in your next post contains you ranting and whining too. Just drop it already, no one cares about your personal crusade against "space nutters".
Let them convince a big part of the world population that global warming IS a problem. I live in a country where we don't have to walk around with masks because the polution in cities is so bad that we can't breath normal air. I don't care if the global warming story is exaggerated, I just dont want to walk around in my city wearing a mask! And if this is the way to prevent that I'll play along with this propaganda..
Well, look at who wrote the summary, his nick is smitty777. 777 is, for a lot of Christians, a meaningful number as in the opposite of 666, it's the number closest to their God. Coincidence? Maybe, but in combination with the false summary I'd say chances are pretty big smitty777 has his own agenda when posting this Christian propaganda.
The whole summary (For many adults into technology, childhood was an alienating experience, pigeon-holed as a nerd and relegated to the A/V, Computer or Gaming club in high school) strikes me as a cliché plot for some random American movie. I was into science and a fan of computers from a very early age. I was teaching other kids how to use them in the period between the 4th and 6th grade. Yet, I was a very social kid, played outside most of the time with my friends and was never labeled a nerd or a geek. In all honesty I never experienced this, kids into science and tech were not labeled as nerds, it were the kids playing inside during breaks with magic cards that were. It's the combination of interests that makes society stop and point out 'nerds' or 'geeks'.
You honestly think that future generations wouldn't be able to access information on how devices from the past worked and rebuild them after that? There must be one major disaster if we ever reach a stage where this happens.
Actually, no. There mightve been help from botnets but a large number of people were using LOIC, a gui ddos tool for scriptkiddies which doesn't spoof packets. It's hilarious to me that it's the main tool for Anonymous members and clearly shows how the majority doesn't really know what they're doing but just following lead.
Actually, the Chromium related channels are official channels from the Chromium Developers. And this is just 1 example, there are many official channels for a broad range of applications to be found on Freenode and EFNet.
Not all servers are like this, it all depends on which servers you visit. I still don't see how it is any different from other public chat channel services on the web beside that it might look more obvious to you on certain networks when simply doing a list and seeing all sorts of strange channels pop up. And in my long history of IRC I can honestly say I've never seen any child porn channels on there (at least nothing that rang a bell with me judging from a public channel list), ever, so I'm honestly wondering which networks you used to visit. And IRCops glining you for controversial political statements? Maybe you should've kept it in your own channel, none of the major networks snoop your channels for 'controversial' remarks and gline you as a result. Some of the major networks do have rules about racist remarks and other offensive behaviour. Still not any different than any community on the web with moderators in my opinion.
there is not very much logical reason for a university or business to host a massively bandwidth hogging haven for criminal activity, full of drama and expense that was almost entirely devoted to non-educational activity. I mean how did they ever justify it in their budget
Why not? You are still implying that every IRC network is used for criminal activities. Besides, there is a big chance that students themselves were hosting IRCDs back in the day (and still do). This doesn't make it an official IRC network from the university itself. There are actually still quite a few universities that host IRC networks where, maybe obviously, a lot of IT related students gather to talk about the topics discussed in classes (sometimes with the teachers in the channel), discuss their projects, etc. Lastly, the point you make about the budget. You can actually host an IRCD with quite a few users without it costing that much. A small network runs fine on mediocre hardware platforms with a decent ammount of bandwidth available.
Well I don't think there is 1 official google channel, check out #google, #chromium, #chromium-os, #android, #googleapps on Freenode, all google related and populated. As for talking to actual employees and developers from companies like that, you will run into them every once in a while if you're in the major html, js/jq, css or general webapp development channels on either EFNet or Freenode.
I'm not entirely sure if you're being serious, if you aren't disregard this post but I feel the need to explain some things anyway. The largest IRC network (QuakeNet) is a gaming related network with about 180.000 users online at all times discussing everything game related (Clans, communities, development/mods, etc).
Then we have networks like Freenode, EFNet, etc filled with channels related to programming, operating systems, designing, etc. I am able to speak to developers from Splashdamage, id Software, Yahoo services, Google services, Microsoft services and many more (a lot of big brands/applications have their own central channel though not always official) directly and get support for any problem you can imagine within minutes, versus waiting for hours on certain web communities, and discuss further details of the problem directly.
And sure, EFNet (and various other networks) also has a darker side, piracy, hacking and maybe even CP as you mentioned but is this in any way different from what the web consists of and does this mean that all the positive things IRC has to offer has to go?
Well excuse me but I haven't seen Wikileaks actively threatening to kill people over the phone. Before you call me out on this statement, look up some of the material from Anonymous on youtube, some phone conversations are posted there for example. And let's not forget fake bomb threats, not talking about the stadium bomb spam (which got a guy busted by the way) from several years ago but the recent ones related to for example Scientology HQs.
Terrorism may imply violence to you, officially it does not. And I'm not saying a DDoS is an act of terrorism, it goes a lot further than that and spreads to real life scenario's where random members will terrorize families of facebook/youtube girls and threaten to kill people that are against their cause. Sure, all big man talk on the internets but people have to realize that the joke ends when you threaten someone like that.
I'm not some hardcore anti anon advocate, I just think it's sad how some people seem to think they can claim what anonymous as a whole thinks about politics and what not and try to lead (and abuse) them.
Oh and btw, I do not disagree with their political views when it comes to the last 'campaigns', I disagree with the way they try to push their views (by force).
Terrorism is the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion. No universally agreed, legally binding, criminal law definition of terrorism currently exists. (cp'd from the article Terrorism).
Anonymous is no longer related to any chans, it has become something on its own full with scriptkids wanting to belong to something bigger. Anonymous can officially be clasified as a terrorist group in my book with threats and attacks all over the world to defend their points of view. It has totally lost the anarchistic feel it had and has become a group consisting of a handful of 'smart' guys giving out orders to the masses of zombie idiots who give up their connection voluntarily.
I hope everyone realizes that eventhough it recruits on sites like 4chan this version of anonymous is now out of their hands and became a radical splinter cell of the original anonymous.
Partly true. Eventhough I visit lots of other boards and some days really hate/b/ you just gotta love it sometimes./b/ actually is 4chan for a large part, it's the reason this article even gets posted.
As for being down, I was on there just before it went down and the mods were fucking up/b/ again by adding cotton eye joe music to the page and randomizing the colours making it hard to even view the page and about 10 minutes later the whole site was down.
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You seem mad. I see that the comment you're linking in your next post contains you ranting and whining too. Just drop it already, no one cares about your personal crusade against "space nutters".
Exactly what I was thinking, not planning to make an effort in understanding it at this point either. * closes page *
Let them convince a big part of the world population that global warming IS a problem. I live in a country where we don't have to walk around with masks because the polution in cities is so bad that we can't breath normal air.
I don't care if the global warming story is exaggerated, I just dont want to walk around in my city wearing a mask! And if this is the way to prevent that I'll play along with this propaganda..
Well, look at who wrote the summary, his nick is smitty777. 777 is, for a lot of Christians, a meaningful number as in the opposite of 666, it's the number closest to their God.
Coincidence? Maybe, but in combination with the false summary I'd say chances are pretty big smitty777 has his own agenda when posting this Christian propaganda.
Alright.... I see your patriotic tendencies prevented you from typing a normal sentence.
This. Seeing that I had to keep track of my own answers made me close the page.
This is 2011, come up with something better.
The whole summary (For many adults into technology, childhood was an alienating experience, pigeon-holed as a nerd and relegated to the A/V, Computer or Gaming club in high school) strikes me as a cliché plot for some random American movie.
I was into science and a fan of computers from a very early age. I was teaching other kids how to use them in the period between the 4th and 6th grade. Yet, I was a very social kid, played outside most of the time with my friends and was never labeled a nerd or a geek.
In all honesty I never experienced this, kids into science and tech were not labeled as nerds, it were the kids playing inside during breaks with magic cards that were.
It's the combination of interests that makes society stop and point out 'nerds' or 'geeks'.
You honestly think that future generations wouldn't be able to access information on how devices from the past worked and rebuild them after that?
There must be one major disaster if we ever reach a stage where this happens.
Actually, no.
There mightve been help from botnets but a large number of people were using LOIC, a gui ddos tool for scriptkiddies which doesn't spoof packets.
It's hilarious to me that it's the main tool for Anonymous members and clearly shows how the majority doesn't really know what they're doing but just following lead.
Actually, the Chromium related channels are official channels from the Chromium Developers.
And this is just 1 example, there are many official channels for a broad range of applications to be found on Freenode and EFNet.
i am talking 1995-2000
Not all servers are like this, it all depends on which servers you visit. I still don't see how it is any different from other public chat channel services on the web beside that it might look more obvious to you on certain networks when simply doing a list and seeing all sorts of strange channels pop up. And in my long history of IRC I can honestly say I've never seen any child porn channels on there (at least nothing that rang a bell with me judging from a public channel list), ever, so I'm honestly wondering which networks you used to visit.
And IRCops glining you for controversial political statements? Maybe you should've kept it in your own channel, none of the major networks snoop your channels for 'controversial' remarks and gline you as a result. Some of the major networks do have rules about racist remarks and other offensive behaviour. Still not any different than any community on the web with moderators in my opinion.
there is not very much logical reason for a university or business to host a massively bandwidth hogging haven for criminal activity, full of drama and expense that was almost entirely devoted to non-educational activity. I mean how did they ever justify it in their budget
Why not? You are still implying that every IRC network is used for criminal activities. Besides, there is a big chance that students themselves were hosting IRCDs back in the day (and still do). This doesn't make it an official IRC network from the university itself.
There are actually still quite a few universities that host IRC networks where, maybe obviously, a lot of IT related students gather to talk about the topics discussed in classes (sometimes with the teachers in the channel), discuss their projects, etc.
Lastly, the point you make about the budget. You can actually host an IRCD with quite a few users without it costing that much. A small network runs fine on mediocre hardware platforms with a decent ammount of bandwidth available.
Well I don't think there is 1 official google channel, check out #google, #chromium, #chromium-os, #android, #googleapps on Freenode, all google related and populated.
As for talking to actual employees and developers from companies like that, you will run into them every once in a while if you're in the major html, js/jq, css or general webapp development channels on either EFNet or Freenode.
I'm not entirely sure if you're being serious, if you aren't disregard this post but I feel the need to explain some things anyway.
The largest IRC network (QuakeNet) is a gaming related network with about 180.000 users online at all times discussing everything game related (Clans, communities, development/mods, etc).
Then we have networks like Freenode, EFNet, etc filled with channels related to programming, operating systems, designing, etc. I am able to speak to developers from Splashdamage, id Software, Yahoo services, Google services, Microsoft services and many more (a lot of big brands/applications have their own central channel though not always official) directly and get support for any problem you can imagine within minutes, versus waiting for hours on certain web communities, and discuss further details of the problem directly.
And sure, EFNet (and various other networks) also has a darker side, piracy, hacking and maybe even CP as you mentioned but is this in any way different from what the web consists of and does this mean that all the positive things IRC has to offer has to go?
Are you telling me that cheap gossip like extra-marital affairs of pro footballers will have to be leaked through wikileaks in the future?
Same here, no matter what location in the ocean I tried.
Upvoted comment by Apple fanboys, congratulations, your post fails to make any sense.
Well excuse me for speaking 3 other languages (including English) beside my native one.
Well excuse me but I haven't seen Wikileaks actively threatening to kill people over the phone. Before you call me out on this statement, look up some of the material from Anonymous on youtube, some phone conversations are posted there for example.
And let's not forget fake bomb threats, not talking about the stadium bomb spam (which got a guy busted by the way) from several years ago but the recent ones related to for example Scientology HQs.
Terrorism may imply violence to you, officially it does not. And I'm not saying a DDoS is an act of terrorism, it goes a lot further than that and spreads to real life scenario's where random members will terrorize families of facebook/youtube girls and threaten to kill people that are against their cause.
Sure, all big man talk on the internets but people have to realize that the joke ends when you threaten someone like that.
I'm not some hardcore anti anon advocate, I just think it's sad how some people seem to think they can claim what anonymous as a whole thinks about politics and what not and try to lead (and abuse) them.
Oh and btw, I do not disagree with their political views when it comes to the last 'campaigns', I disagree with the way they try to push their views (by force).
Terrorism is the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion. No universally agreed, legally binding, criminal law definition of terrorism currently exists. (cp'd from the article Terrorism).
Maybe I think the same about part of the US government, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one.
Anonymous is no longer related to any chans, it has become something on its own full with scriptkids wanting to belong to something bigger. Anonymous can officially be clasified as a terrorist group in my book with threats and attacks all over the world to defend their points of view.
It has totally lost the anarchistic feel it had and has become a group consisting of a handful of 'smart' guys giving out orders to the masses of zombie idiots who give up their connection voluntarily.
I hope everyone realizes that eventhough it recruits on sites like 4chan this version of anonymous is now out of their hands and became a radical splinter cell of the original anonymous.
Woops, here is the correct url: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
chrome nearly hit the Double-Digit mark by the end of 2009.. http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp/
Partly true. Eventhough I visit lots of other boards and some days really hate /b/ you just gotta love it sometimes. /b/ actually is 4chan for a large part, it's the reason this article even gets posted.
As for being down, I was on there just before it went down and the mods were fucking up /b/ again by adding cotton eye joe music to the page and randomizing the colours making it hard to even view the page and about 10 minutes later the whole site was down.