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Israeli Spyware Sold To Iran
Hugh Pickens writes "Bloomberg reports that Israeli trade, customs and defense officials say they didn't know that systems for performing 'deep- packet inspection' into Internet traffic, sold under the brand name NetEnforcer, had gone to a country whose leaders have called for the destruction of the Jewish state. Allot Communications Ltd., an Israel-based firm which reported $57 million in sales last year, sold its systems to a Randers, a Denmark-based technology distributor where workers at that company, RanTek A/S, repackaged the gear and shipped it to Iran. The sales skirted a strict Israeli ban that prohibits 'trading with the enemy,' including any shipments that reach Iran, Syria and Lebanon. Although Allot officials say they had no knowledge of their equipment going to Iran and are looking into RanTek's sales, three former sales employees for Allot say it was well known inside the Israeli company that the equipment was headed for Iran. 'Israel considers Iran quite possibly its greatest threat, and so the Israeli government would come down very strong against any company that exported to Iran,' says Ira Hoffman. 'Iran is also considered by the U.S. as one of its most strategic threats.' Israeli lawmaker Nachman Shai has called for a parliamentary investigation, and the country's Defense Ministry has begun to examine the report."
Real Oops moment.
Everyone who posts a comment is antisemitic!
Stuxnet 2.0 bundled free.
death penalty if some get's killed or at least life / a long time in a federal pound me in ass the prison.
I can't help wondering, was this really a "oops" moment or were the Israelis well aware that it would go to Iran. Maybe it has a little "easter egg" that can be activated when it sniffs a packet only known to Mossad?
..it is (relatively speaking) incredibly easy to trasfer highly sensitve items to recipients that should never have them. Where there's a will (in this case profit motive) there's always a way.
From TFA:
> The gear shipped to Iran, called NetEnforcer, can inspect pieces of data moving over a network. It can be used to eliminate spam or help network
> operators prioritize or block certain types of traffic.
It's not even funny -- it's not "spyware", it's just a traffic sniffer.
Admittedly, they break the israeli law that prohibits trading with Iran, but it's hardly a threat to national security.
The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope. Karl Marx
So come on down to Shlomo's!
>> had gone to a country whose leaders have called for the destruction of the Jewish state.
That statement is because of a bad translation. Stop lying, FoxNews's presenter
NetEnforcer is actually a traffic shaper, rather than spyware, the one ISPs use to lower priority of bittorent downloads.
This sale is really bad for the free world: instead of downloading their pr0n all day long, more Iranians will join the Revolutionary Guard and enrich uranium! Now we are really doomed!
Israel's greatest threat, frankly, is the American people seeing that we need to adopt a Chinese style foreign policy and banking system: (i) give developing countries infrastructure in return for work rather than subservient government and military in return for work; (ii) build and export rather than casino and debt.
Iran's just the bogeyman necessary to justify continued misbehaviour.
Alright.... I see your patriotic tendencies prevented you from typing a normal sentence.
Developing more technology than your enemies is a fool's errand. At best you should just try to develop just a little bit more than them. If you make breakthroughs, your enemies will steal your technology and be a bigger threat than ever.
It is for this reason that China is not yet spending so much on military technology. They will allow the US to bankrupt itself on military spending before they waste their energy taking the lead. From there their worst case is they just have to focus their energy developing the concepts that the US has already proved. But in most cases they will simply steal the US's technology.
Our efforts to try to keep Israel ahead of are similarly foolish. At this point we are trying to keep the large industrial nation of Iran from developing a nuclear weapon even though their main enemy has them. Stuxnet will work for now. But if nuclear weapons where made in the 1940's so I don't think computer viruses will stop them forever?
This case of Israeli spyware going to Iran is just one more example of the fact that all the technology you develop will find its way to enemy hands. Information wants to be free, for better or worse. Iran will have nukes and whatever else Israel develops. It's just a matter of time.
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When are people going to realize that Iran never said they were going to annihilate Israel itself? They said they want to get rid of Zionism. The people who control Israel now are zionists who have hijacked the Jewish people. 1000-1500 years ago, many people from Russia and Eastern Europe converted to Judaism and became zionists which now have control of Israel, and most of the politicians in the world.
The leaders of Iran never called for the destruction of Israel. I guess you're referring to Ahmadinejad's alleged "wiped of the map" statement. See here for what he really said. Although he really is a nutcase if he denies the holocaust.
True capitalism is on nobody's side, but profit's. Wars will be waged when it is profitable to do, enemies will be manufactured when it is profitable to do so, and weapons will be sold when it is profitable to do so. The people who do not understand this are the fools.
Really good of the 3 employees to speak up after the fact.
Sorry, I RTFA, but I'll post instead about the company's name: "Allot". Boy, if only they had named it "Allotof", the potential lulz would have been huge.
Allotof Declines...
XD
That's all. Proceed as usual.
I rarely respond to comments. Also, don't ask for clarifications: a brain and Google are faster, believe me!
It is as ignorant and inaccurate to call Ahmadinejad one of Iran's "leaders" as it is to call the US President one of the USA's "leaders". Both are spokespeople and figureheads whose authority extends little further than public relations.
But whatever: Anything that paints Iran as the bad guy (against poor embattled little Israel, the lonely regional good guy...) helps build the case for the next unnecessary and awful American military action. Nice work, editors. Haz real journalism?
you had me at #!
If this firm had sold the Iranians the blueprints to something actually security-sensitive, there might be a reason to care. But, FFS, what's Iran going to do with this - inspect Israeli-origin IP packets to death?
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
--Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
The Israeli's never had a problem selling American tech to China. Doubt they care very much if they are selling to their enemies either.
This probably happens all the time with any equipment where sale isn't restricted to government intelligence agencies, whether the vendor is complicit or not. You just ship stuff to a middleman in an approved country and then smuggle it to the final destination. It isn't rocket science. Plus, they could probably just build a similar system themselves with all FOSS tools anyways.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
They knew, the only thing Israel does better than tech and weapons is espionage and money is king before any nation or flag, the only other thing that comes to mind is what little "surprises" are hidden in the gear waiting to be used against Iran so that in effect, this oops moment is plausible deniability.
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
I've been using Allot's equipment for nearly 10 years now, from a lowly NetEnforcer 800 (with a throughput of only 200Mbps and I'm not even sure about that) to an array of SG-Sigma's (each capable of handling 120Gbps) and none of those had any sniffing capability. I really with it had, it would've saved me quite a lot of work.
Oh, it can tell you that A amount of traffic is going from IP B to IP C using protocol D (and here's where the DPI lies, in its ability to identify L7 protocols) and allows you to rate-limit, based on various criteria, said traffic, but it just can't sniff it. There's no way a NetEnforcer be able to allert the authorities about the anti-islamic message you've just posted on a blog, believing you were anonymous.
Some NetEnforcers could steer traffic based on definable criteria, say all HTTP traffic between private users and GMail, to a third-party equipment capable of sniffing that traffic, but that's as close as the NE comes to being a sniffer.
Does the same go for open-source developers who write software to do the same thing and put it up on sourceforge or kernel.org?
Allot also sold gear to Cuba. All of the DPI vendors are criminals, Allot is leading the pack.
Milton Friedman describing how a #2 pencil is made through efforts of people who "might hate one another if they ever met" still cooperate because of trade:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Gppi-O3a8
This isn't an oops moment. This is a moment to realize, once again, that greed is the best tool for cooperation known to man kind.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
Why is this Spyware? Spyware in its traditional sense is something you drop on a computer, not putting professional network management products on your network so you can see all your traffic. Deep Packet Inspection is pretty vital to almost any corporate network. This is almost as bad as people who call the LOIC from anon hacking instead of a DDOS attack. Its one thing to get that from CNN, but I expect more from Slashdot.
death penalty if some get's killed or at least life / a long time in a federal pound me in ass the prison.
Why would an Israeli CEO be in a US Federal Prison for violating Israeli law ?
If you won't read the linked article or the summary, at least read the TITLE.
Sig Battery depleted. Reverting to safe mode.
Since the fall of the Shah, US foreign policy is biased against Iran. At least that is the opinion I have formed after following the Israeli blog http://samsonblinded.org/blog/ . For instance, Saudi Arabia can get Nukes, but practically nobody reports it. OTOH from comments already posted on slashdot, this sale to Iran appears technically trivial
but they should not go to some kind of camp prison for stuff like this.
It is a mistake to think that all Israeli Jews agree with Israeli or even Jewish policies. For example: Israeli ultra-Orthodox Jews 'harass' 8-year-old girl over dress. Quote: "... 50 people involved in the abuse of an 8-year-old." Also see Israel braced for protests against treatment of women after girl, 8, is spat on by Jewish extremists.
... the August 1953 coup was
not an isolated incident, but an outgrowth of decisions and policies
made by the Truman administration largely as a result of a truly
remarkable U.S. military buildup that really began to come on line in mid-1952. Such aggressiveness
would have been impossible in 1950 or 1951, even if Eisenhower had been
president.
Here are only some of the reasons many Israelis disagree with the typical policies of the Israeli government:
Some Israelis think that further violence toward Iran will cause trouble for Israel. Partly that is because there is the idea that encouraging violence against 1.6 billion Muslims is self-defeating. There are only an estimated 14 million (not billion) practicing Jews in the entire world.
Some of those who control the U.S. government want to build an oil pipeline through Iran to get oil from the "Stan" countries to the ocean where it can be shipped easily. That idea would be financially profitable only if U.S. taxpayers paid for security. The U.S. government is, in some ways, VERY corrupt.
Remember that the U.S. government supported Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's war with Iran so that U.S. companies could sell weapons to Iraq, and with the idea of the enormous profits that would come from building the pipeline through Iran.
Also, remember that the U.S. government has interfered with the politics in Iran since before before 1953, when the U.S. agency known as the CIA arranged the removal of a democratically elected president, President Mossadegh. The U.S. government arranged that the Shah have complete power. See for example, Politics, Power, and US Policy in Iran, 1950-1953 (PDF file, Harvard University). Quote:
Opposition in Iran to the violent regime of the Shah caused support for Muslim clerics who took over management of the government. Iranians say that clerics have usually not been good business and government managers. The unthinking violence of the U.S. government toward Iran has caused Iranians to be very afraid of what the U.S. government might do in the future.
One reason for the Iranian government to develop nuclear materials is to try to protect Iran against U.S. government violence. Another reason is that all governments need to give attention to sources of energy that do not cause global warming.
Some with influence in the U.S. government wanted to build an oil pipeline through Afghanistan. That is one of the reasons the U.S. government spends taxpayer money there, but it seems that getting control of Afghanistan will not happen soon, so there is renewed interest in violence toward Iran.
The U.S. government's support for violence toward Arab and Muslim nations, partly as a way for a few to make money, is seen by some as caused by Jewish manipulation of the U.S. government. There is support by some Jews in the U.S. to get U.S. taxpayers to pay for the security of Israel.
There are only 5,874,300 Jews in Israel. There are approximately 5,275,000 Jews in the United States. In some ways, the U.S. is as much o
That software was developed for oppressing Palestinians!
How dare they use it against Jews?
Of course, that's the problem with developing tools of oppression.
There are two types of people in the world: people who think there are two types of people in the world and people who don’t. I’m among the first type and I think the world is divided into people who recognize the Jewish problem and people who don’t.
In other words, the world is divided into smart people and dumb people. If you’ve got an IQ of 80, have difficulty operating a can-opener, and recognize the Jewish problem, you’re smart. If you’ve got an IQ of 180, have already won a couple of Nobel Prizes, and don’t recognize the Jewish problem, you’re dumb.
I’ve been dumb for most of my life: it took me a long time to recognize the Jewish problem. I didn’t think for myself, I just accepted the propaganda and conformed to the consensus. Jews are good people. Only bad people criticize Jews. Jews good. Anti-Semites bad. But then, very slowly, I started to see the light.
Recognizing Jewish hypocrisy was the first big step. I was reading an article by someone called Rabbi Julia Neuberger, a prominent British liberal. I didn’t like liberals then, so I didn’t like her for that (and because her voice and manner had always grated on me), but her Jewishness wasn’t something I particularly noticed. But as I read the article I came across something that didn’t strike me as very liberal: she expressed concern about Jews marrying Gentiles, because this threatened the survival of the Jewish people.
That made me sit up and think. Hold on, I thought, I know this woman sits on all sorts of “multi-cultural” committees and is constantly being invited onto TV and radio to yap about the joys of diversity and the evils of racism. She’s all in favor of mass immigration and there’s no way she’s worried about Whites marrying non-Whites, because “Race is Just a Social Construct” and “We’re All the Same Under the Skin”. She’s a liberal and she thinks that race-mixing is good and healthy and Holy. Yet this same woman is worried about Jews marrying Gentiles. Small contradiction there, n'est ce-pas?
Well, no. Big contradiction. She obviously didn’t apply the same rules to everyone else as she applied to her own people, the Jews. She was, in short, a hypocrite. But not just that – she was a Jewish hypocrite. And that’s a big step for a brainwashed White to take: not just thinking in a negative way about a Jew, but thinking in a negative way about a Jew because of her Jewishness.
After that, I slowly started to see the world in a different way. Or to be more precise: I started to see the world. I started to see what had always been there: the massive over-representation of Jews in politics and the media. And I started to notice that a lot of those Jews – like Rabbi Julia Neuberger, in fact – gave me the creeps. There was something slimy and oily and flesh-crawling about them. And it wasn’t just me, either: other Gentiles seemed to feel it too.
Politicians often attract nicknames based on some outstanding aspect of their character or behavior. Margaret Thatcher was “The Iron Lady”. Ronald Reagan was “Teflon Ron”. Bill Clinton was “Slick Willy”. But these are Gentile politicians and their nicknames are at least half-affectionate. Jewish politicians seem to attract a different kind of nickname. In Britain, Gerald Kaufman, bald, homosexual Member of Parliament for Manchester Gorton, is nicknamed “Hannibal Lecter”. Peter Mandelson, now Britain’s Euro-Commissioner and Tony Blair’s suspected former lover, is “The Prince of Darkness”. Michael Howard (né Hecht), the leader of the British Conservative Party, is “Dracula”.
When I noticed this kind of thing, I started to ask questions. What was going on here? Why did Jews attract nicknames like that? And why had Gentiles reacted to them like that not just now, but a long way into the past? Shakesp
Well, in Israel, you've got to admit it does put a bit of a damper on a movement if every policy that stops the "powermongering" even a little bit is immediately followed by mass-murder from those who feel religiously inclined to kill Jews.
While I don't believe in God and the devil I DO believe in pure evil, vicious monsters that frankly wouldn't give a second thought to stomping babies if it furthered their agenda
And you think nothing of forcing people to implement a delusional policy that will get them massacred. You even call them immoral for turning back those policies when the massacre part turns into reality.
You know what is pure evil ? A religion that demands massacres from it's followers. Not that that is the only disgusting part of islam. After all, buying/selling people to rape them, genocide, mass-killings, raids, stealing, betrayal, lying on peace treaties, all were comitted by the muslim god (I mean the paedophile bastard that is complimented 7 times in muslims' main prayer, not their "god" which is mentioned on the side once, and even in that single mention has to take second place after the aforementioned paeophilic thief).
Am I the only one who thought of Isaac Asimov's Foundation when I read that headline?
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http://www.lawrenceperson.com/
plug it into your network of centrifuges.
Hold on lads, deep packet inspection, is it smth like TCPdump? Like something you can download for free???
The police have no comments on the investigation.
I would expect an intelligence service to be more effective than this.
So i think i will rule it out as the work of Mossad. Even though the timing is very conspicuous.
The news article is in Danish so you will need Google translate
http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/article1681051.ece
Violence in the Arab and Muslim countries flourishes regardless of any US involvement. The only thing that ever unites the Arab and Muslim countries is their hatred of the US and Isreal. With the US leaving they can get back to killing one another in peace. The US military leaves Iraq and the very next day they start killing their own people that will most likely escalate into a civil war. When the US leaves Afghanistan the same thing will happen except Pakistan and India will also get into the game.
Iran did not call for an end to the Jewish state, it called for the end of a Zionist regime. Big difference. I expect better from /.
Ok, let's have this discussion. But you open your mind as well :
Which do you disagree with :
1) the prophet was a thief ("raider")
2) the prophet was a paedophile
3) the prophet was a slaver, and worse : he did not just sell people for forced labour, sex, and worse, he captured prisoners and sold them as slaves
4) the prophet comitted religious genocide on numerous occasions.
Or do you wish to claim that this is all true, but has no bearing on the faith, because the paedophile prophet and islam are unrelated. (despite the fact that you and I both know that what is said about the primary prayer is true : 7 mentionings of mohammad, 1 of allah, and the one mention is in a casual illustration of the authority of mohammad. Texts like the quran likewise emphasise not god, not allah, but the paedophile. So forgive me if I doubt in the extreme that muslims worship a god as opposed to this vile monster of a man)
I am very curious about your response. Needless to say, I will be providing literal quotes, from the primary sources of islam (quran + first 4 hadith). I hope you already know that those primary sources do indeed say all these things and wosre. But regardless, I am very interested in your response. And please, if you're a muslim, act like one : let's not pretend that you, or any muslim, believe that the quran or the hadith's teachings are meant for one specific time only.
I don't see why it is important news that any ethical company would care about protecting the concept of a 'jewish state'. After all, we saw what happened in Europe, when Hitler tried to create an Arian State, along similarly racist lines. Any attempt to create a 'nation for the master race' is doomed to fail, with horrible suffering for everyone involved. The fact is, that israel has ethnically cleansed almost the entire population of Palestine. Until that issue is addressed, with severe punishment for the perpetrators, and full compensation for the victims, they can talk all they want about 'security' and 'terrorism'. Unless there is justice for the victims of Israeli terror, there will never be peace for the perpetrators.
Iran is a different issue. It has never been an expansionist, or military interventionist nation. The Iran/Iraq war was started by the US backed Saddam. If Iran has a desire to have nuclear weapons, it is America, and Israel that have created the threat that has fuelled this desire. They are the regimes issuing the threats to Iranian national security. The Iranian leadership is not stupid. While their public rhetoric may be harsh (although misquoted in this article), and their religion completely insane, they will not act rashly unless attacked by the ONLY two [criminal] regimes which consistently vote against any resolution of the issues in the middle east at the United Nations.
US, EU, RU, CN, Israel, Iran, Vatican ... it is just business as usual. WTF do people expect? Better! WTF do politicians expect? Privilege! WTF do clerics expect? Power!
It is a global plutocracy that works better than war. It ain't democracy, capitalism, communism, religion, values, faith, happiness, joy ... WTF not plutocrats/aristocracy the delusional-elitist that have always ruled human culture and destiny that assures upheavals and changes by violence, destruction, genocide, extinction ....
That which survives in museums and libraries, and hides in yet to be discovered archaeological sites remains as proof of plutocrat/aristocrat republics' failure and human success. It is the artist/mathematician not the the leader/patron/cleric..., it is the architect not the king, it it is the scientist not the CEO, it is the labor not the boss always creating the best that humanity will be left to posterity to build destiny on.
That which is intended to kill US, EU, RU, CN ... folks will always cripple the best of humanity and strengthen the plutocrats/aristocrats.
Unaccountable leaders are masters, and unrepresented people are slaves. How do US and EU fare?
The American companies have never had a problem selling "TopSecret" technology to China.
There is no doubt, a national/international company does not care, if their company is selling to the US, EU, RU, CN, Israel, Iran, our potential foes.
"Profit is profit" is a mantra expressing values.
Unaccountable leaders are masters, and unrepresented people are slaves. How do US and EU fare?
The question is , who has the sickest mind. You or the guy who wrote this?
Any one who believes that there is a real enmity between Israel and Persia is a sucker.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2011-12-27/israel-extremists-girl/52240554/1
Fuck Jews. Without the hair, they'd be indistinguishable from Islamic nutjobs. Fuck Jews, and fuck the jew mods.
Only about 1.6% of the USA are Jewish. Nearly 1% of the USA are worshipers of Islam. The rest of the US is prominently split between various christian religious groups. Less than 1% make up Buddhists, Hindi, etc. Because the USA is mixed it forces those who do not get along on ideological views to be able to at least live together without starting a war of the week. You couldn't attack a large community in the USA without affecting at least one person from most ideological views in the world. Given this it is no small wonder how the USA doesn't implode on itself. But it doesn't and the world keeps on turning and the sun will come up tomorrow regardless of who hates who or who kills who.
The Israeli company certainly knew where the items were going. I would bet that the power cords had plugs that were an Iranian standard and probably not a european standard.
There would be other taletale signs such as languages in which the manuals were requested and langauges where they were not allowed to show.
Really need to know if the company was acting treasonously, or if the company was really foreign owned.
Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
The Iranian leader called for the 'end of the Zionist regime' which was turned into the destruction of the Jewish state...cause that plays into the "Israel is hated cause of the Arabs are antiSemities bs that is pushed in the US.
The reality is Zionism is rightfully despised by 95% of the world because its is a racist idealogy..."lets setup a state for our ethno/religious group by pushing out the indigenous people of the area because in an imaginary man says it belongs to us" Das racist.
I would have just said typical jew greed, but you've hit the nail on the head. Let's hope Iran does the world a favor. I think a lot more people are starting to wake up and realize what's happening in the world. I'm assuming young tinkerton will continue to drool on his keyboard and watch MTV, he doesn't matter in the end, sheep never do. Israel is a criminal state run by Jews to provide a place to run to when they commit atrocities around the world, look at what they did to Russia and are now doing to America!
1953 coup never happened.
1- Mossadegh was not democratically elected.
2- He was never a president. Iran never had a president before 1979. You mean prime minster.
3- The Shah appointed Mossadegh himself according to the the Iranian consitution (note: there was no election) Under the constitution of 1906 the Shah had the power to name and dismiss prime ministers.
4- The only source about the 1953 coup is CIA. CIA is not trustable at all. CIA is an intelligence agency. Intelligence agencies lie, disinform, manipulate etc.
Richard Helms, long time CIA director, told a BBC television program that '' the agency did not counter rumours of in Iran because the Iranian episode looked like a success. At the time, of course, agency needed some success, especially to counter fiascos as the Bay of Pigs.''
Gary Sick writes ''The belief that the United States had single-handedly imposed a harsh tyrant on a reluctant populace became one of the central myths of the relationship, particularly as viewed from Iran.''
Loy Henderson , the US ambassador to Tehran at the time, makes it abundantly clear in his dispatches to the State Department that Mussadeq was overthrown by a popular uprising which started from the poorest districts of the Iranian capital. HendersonÃ(TM)s reports have been published in a book of more than 100 pages, translated into Persian and published in Iran.
Now that you had time to read CIA sources, read these two articles too: http://aryamehr.org/eng/19august/19august.htm
Cisco knowingly (?) sells restricted equipment through Austria to Iran, Azerbaijan, and others. Further there are UK based companies that buy Cisco gear that pay the higher tax to import/export through the Netherlands as the Dutch do not honor (nor does Austria) the UK, US, and most of the other UN restrictions.
The joke at Cisco is that Austria has the most advanced telecomms infrastructure in the world, with almost as many fiber ports as citizens. I found out about it when an RMA request on a defective router supposedly sold to Austrian Telecom needed diagnosis ... the call came from Azerbaijan. About 1 month later, Cisco honored (through the UK company that shipped the product to Austria) the RMA ... this time with delivery (by Cisco) to an Austrian Telecom address.
It's just about money.