Actually, I much prefer brackets at the end of a line (most java code is like that, IIRC). Just because you don't like something doesn't make it inherently wrong.
I do think the 8 char tab space is kind of weird though, I personally only go with two, or whatever VC++ gives me:)
The sad thing is, you'll probably be flamed to hell and back, or moderated into oblivion for saying anything 'anti Linux' around here...
Mesa was great, but it was slow. Hrm... this will be slower then mesa, and with less hardware support. However it will be fully compliant. The idea is to merge the two codebases.
If you can't exspress the idea of Kami in 1,000 words of english (or 1,000 words of japanes, for that matter.) then its probably not a consept that All japanese hold in common. Now, it may not be worth your time, but could still be done.
Sure, there might be huge amount of sublties in the language, but if there are those probably vary from person to person anyway. Remember, if its posible for a little japanese kid to learn what that word means, it should be posible for you as well.
Do, whatever you like. But If youre ebarased by your posts it might simply be a better idea to control your keyboard then to limit your mind... But, that's just me:)
"Freedom" had to be defined somewhere, by someone, at some time. All words can be broken down in to simple primitives, that can be learned by Visual/Tactile/etc association. If that wasn't the case, how the hell would you know what it meant?
There is a finite ammount of what I am capable of expressing with English This is completly untrue. Well, Other then by the amount of time you can spend speaking in your lifetime, you are not limited. It may take longer to exspress somthing in english, then in say, chinese, but you can still do it.
"This isn't to say that someone wouldn't be able to thing something like 'Big Brother is ungood', that would be something that would be inherently a silly and nonsensical idea to a party member... The person would only be able to think in vague ideas" --Appendix to 1984(emphasis mine)
Sorry, that's a paraphrase, I loaned my copy of '84 to someone just yesterday. But you'll notice that Orwell didn't say that crime think would be impossible, only that it would impossible to communicate
This is a good point. Another one is Free Software or Open Source. Namely, there is no word like french libre to connotate free speech, not free beer.
But, it proves the exact opposite thing. I mean, you could hardly say that the idea of Free Software is imposible for an english speaker to comprehend could you?
The consept, like any consept, can be described by multiple words, or by makeing a new one such as the phrase "Open Source" or OSS.
See how much the definition of one word changes from person to person even in the same language? two the two of you the word means different thing. Words really have only (and can have only) generalized meanings between any two people. Those generalized meanings can be transferred to other languages. You may not get all the subtleties, but there is no guarantee that the guy next to you carries the same subtleties anyway.
Have you, or has anyone else, devised such a generic test? If not, then you are rather hoist on your own petard, are you not?
Well, I haven't but I'm sure the linguists wouldn't be saying that it wasn't true if they didn't have anything to back it up.
--there are certainly statements that can be made in, e.g., Japanese, that I'll never be able to fully comprehend, or even begin to understand.
Well, what if you were to learn Japanese? Would that solve your problem. Japanese would have to be taught to you in English, therefore any Japanese concept could be understood by a native English speaker.
I've thought about that in the past, and wondered if there was anything that someone couldn't learn if they spent enough time studying a language, and I concluded that there wasn't. This is because a language has to be learned in the first place. We might learn more slowly then a baby, but we are still capable of learning. Whenever you have a word with subtle connotations, its always possible that even another person near you does not have the same. For a long time I was using a denotation of "hyperbole" that was completely incorrect, for example.
I mean yeah, it looks cool, but this guy had to have spent a hell of a lot of time doing this! Wouldn't it be a bit cooler to spend this time doing something remotely useful, and getting paid for it?
Yeh, god forbid us if we ever were to do anything fun with our free time!! we should be working 100% of the time! Laziness is what brought down Russia!
Perhaps this is just my way of thinking... obviously, idiot.
This guy's probably a master woodworker. I suppose selling one for $1600 might be worth it. But considering the skill of the craftsman, I doubt 3 * 200 would even be worth it for him to do...
This is just sad. I post a comment decrying someone's distro of Choice, and what happens? I get moderated down as "Troll". This is a sad, pathetic day for Slashdot's moderation. Red Hat Is Known to have weak security out of the box, so much so that Our University chose to put Caldera on some of the student workstations.
But I guess someone here likes Red Hat, enough to want to silence all those who don't.
As we all know, Red hat has been proven to be the worst of all Linux distro's. Feeding of the week minded masses that would rather pay $50 for something because it comes in a 'pretty box'.
Its sad really, that so many people are going to leave there computers wide open to attack and stuff, simply because they go for the 'idiot' option.
Red Hat truly is becoming Microsoft, not in there business practices, but rather in there mediocre software.
How can you, in good conscience, follow that and *still* claim the wrong man got in? you can have objections to bush, or be for Gore, but you cannot claim that the election was the cause..
The only thing that really matters, the only thing, is who got the most votes in FL. The votes should all have been properly counted. Spesific legal loopholes or whatnot don't matter.
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PROPERTY IS THEFT!
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY!
WAR IS PEACE!
IGNORANCE IS STRENGHT!
Yeehaa!
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
Oh, yeah, IE is slow as hell, too.
Hrm, IE is a lot faster then m11, don't know about 12/13 though. Presuebly beacuse there using debugging binarys, rather then optimized ones...
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
it was a joke
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
'Trolling guilds'?!?!, 'The Order Of The Thousand Inch Fan'!?!??!?!
:)
What are you talking about? And what do I have to do with it?
Are you trying to convince people that there's some kind of grand conspiracy amongst the trollers and that I'm someone involved in it?
Whatever, I'm obviously up way to late
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
Actually, I much prefer brackets at the end of a line (most java code is like that, IIRC). Just because you don't like something doesn't make it inherently wrong.
:)
I do think the 8 char tab space is kind of weird though, I personally only go with two, or whatever VC++ gives me
The sad thing is, you'll probably be flamed to hell and back, or moderated into oblivion for saying anything 'anti Linux' around here...
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
Mesa was great, but it was slow. Hrm... this will be slower then mesa, and with less hardware support. However it will be fully compliant. The idea is to merge the two codebases.
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
If you can't exspress the idea of Kami in 1,000 words of english (or 1,000 words of japanes, for that matter.) then its probably not a consept that All japanese hold in common. Now, it may not be worth your time, but could still be done.
Sure, there might be huge amount of sublties in the language, but if there are those probably vary from person to person anyway. Remember, if its posible for a little japanese kid to learn what that word means, it should be posible for you as well.
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
Do, whatever you like. But If youre ebarased by your posts it might simply be a better idea to control your keyboard then to limit your mind... But, that's just me :)
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
let's see you implement yours.
You mean like unrealscript?
idiot.
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
strong typing is for those with weak minds...
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
Well, none if you use MFC, this is built in...
Heh, of course you never use pointers in your C++, right?
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
"Freedom" had to be defined somewhere, by someone, at some time. All words can be broken down in to simple primitives, that can be learned by Visual/Tactile/etc association. If that wasn't the case, how the hell would you know what it meant?
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
There is a finite ammount of what I am capable of expressing with English This is completly untrue. Well, Other then by the amount of time you can spend speaking in your lifetime, you are not limited. It may take longer to exspress somthing in english, then in say, chinese, but you can still do it.
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
This whole discussion (while fun) is off-topic to the issue of computer languages. I
:)
Yeh, but its a hell of a lot more intresting
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
"This isn't to say that someone wouldn't be able to thing something like 'Big Brother is ungood', that would be something that would be inherently a silly and nonsensical idea to a party member ... The person would only be able to think in vague ideas" --Appendix to 1984(emphasis mine)
Sorry, that's a paraphrase, I loaned my copy of '84 to someone just yesterday. But you'll notice that Orwell didn't say that crime think would be impossible, only that it would impossible to communicate
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
This is a good point. Another one is Free Software or Open Source. Namely, there is no word like french libre to connotate free speech, not free beer.
But, it proves the exact opposite thing. I mean, you could hardly say that the idea of Free Software is imposible for an english speaker to comprehend could you?
The consept, like any consept, can be described by multiple words, or by makeing a new one such as the phrase "Open Source" or OSS.
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
See how much the definition of one word changes from person to person even in the same language? two the two of you the word means different thing. Words really have only (and can have only) generalized meanings between any two people. Those generalized meanings can be transferred to other languages. You may not get all the subtleties, but there is no guarantee that the guy next to you carries the same subtleties anyway.
Have you, or has anyone else, devised such a generic test? If not, then you are rather hoist on your own petard, are you not?
Well, I haven't but I'm sure the linguists wouldn't be saying that it wasn't true if they didn't have anything to back it up.
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
--there are certainly statements that can be made in, e.g., Japanese, that I'll never be able to fully comprehend, or even begin to understand.
Well, what if you were to learn Japanese? Would that solve your problem. Japanese would have to be taught to you in English, therefore any Japanese concept could be understood by a native English speaker.
I've thought about that in the past, and wondered if there was anything that someone couldn't learn if they spent enough time studying a language, and I concluded that there wasn't. This is because a language has to be learned in the first place. We might learn more slowly then a baby, but we are still capable of learning. Whenever you have a word with subtle connotations, its always possible that even another person near you does not have the same. For a long time I was using a denotation of "hyperbole" that was completely incorrect, for example.
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
I mean yeah, it looks cool, but this guy had to have spent a hell of a lot of time doing this! Wouldn't it be a bit cooler to spend this time doing something remotely useful, and getting paid for it?
Yeh, god forbid us if we ever were to do anything fun with our free time!! we should be working 100% of the time! Laziness is what brought down Russia!
Perhaps this is just my way of thinking... obviously, idiot.
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
This guy's probably a master woodworker. I suppose selling one for $1600 might be worth it. But considering the skill of the craftsman, I doubt 3 * 200 would even be worth it for him to do...
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
This is just sad. I post a comment decrying someone's distro of Choice, and what happens? I get moderated down as "Troll". This is a sad, pathetic day for Slashdot's moderation. Red Hat Is Known to have weak security out of the box, so much so that Our University chose to put Caldera on some of the student workstations.
But I guess someone here likes Red Hat, enough to want to silence all those who don't.
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
As we all know, Red hat has been proven to be the worst of all Linux distro's. Feeding of the week minded masses that would rather pay $50 for something because it comes in a 'pretty box'.
:)
Its sad really, that so many people are going to leave there computers wide open to attack and stuff, simply because they go for the 'idiot' option.
Red Hat truly is becoming Microsoft, not in there business practices, but rather in there mediocre software.
Long live debian
Amber Yuan (--ell7)
How can you, in good conscience, follow that and *still* claim the wrong man got in? you can have objections to bush, or be for Gore, but you cannot claim that the election was the cause..
The only thing that really matters, the only thing, is who got the most votes in FL. The votes should all have been properly counted. Spesific legal loopholes or whatnot don't matter.
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