You are getting this backwards! The French demanded that any page served to a French terminal be filtered for Nazi stuff.
The US is demanding that any page served from a US server terminating anywhere verify age of viewers of certain types of pages.
Therefore, in effect, US policymakers are setting rules on what and how pages can be viewed in my country.
I have no problem with the French approach, nor would I if USA took the same approach. It is up to the American voters to decide if they like that. But I have no influence on American politicians and can not vote them out when they missbehave.
The issue isn't really porn or not but rather wether policy makers in the US are allowed to make policy that regulates the contetnt of the internet especially outside of USA. I am strongly opposed to US politicians interfering in the domestic policies of my country.
I agree, the problem is that you are applying your questionable ethics in my country, and all other countries. If the US decides to invoke all kids of rules on who can view what and applies that to traffic terminating at a computer inside the US of A I have no problem. It's when you enforce your rules outside your country it's a problem.
If my country starts to suggest bizarre laws like this I am free to speak to "my" politician about it. I have no way, nor should I have, to influence US politicians on their domestic laws. I just don't want your domestic laws here. God knows what the next domestic law you will try to shove down the throat of the rest of the world.
I find it bizarre that anyone can see it fit that the US government belives they have any rights whatsoever to decide what to allow to kids in my country.
The fact that the policymakers in the US deems nude bodies harmful to people under 18 but guns and violence acceptable to anyone does not mean that this is the case all over the world. In fact most countries outside USA are more concerned about violence than nudity and in many countries there is a age limit of 15 to view violence.
There are many other variations on what is deemed inappropriate in various countries.
I belive that there is only one way to solve this. Let the information free and encourage parents to act responsively. I strongly belive that it is my responsibility to set the limit for my three kids and for no other kids. It is not the responsibility of my government and certainly not the responsibility of the government of another country (USA).
...put him in a funny spot. He has publicly wowed to destroy those who harbour terrorists and also that MS is good for America.
So, does he go after the hand that fed him? Or will he leave MS alone and thereby in effect harbour someone who's harbouring terrorism. We all know what he promised to do to those;-D
Drowning Pool "Bodies"
Mudvayne "Death Blooms"
Megadeth "Dread and the Fugitive"
Megadeth "Sweating Bullets"
Saliva "Click Click Boom"
P.O.D. "Boom"
Metallica "Seek and Destroy"
Metallica "Harvester or Sorrow"
Metallica "Enter Sandman"
Metallica "Fade to Black"
All Rage Against The Machine songs
Nine Inch Nails "Head Like a Hole"
Godsmack "Bad Religion"
Tool "Intolerance"
Soundgarden "Blow Up the Outside World"
AC/DC "Shot Down in Flames"
AC/DC "Shoot to Thrill"
AC/DC "Dirty Deeds"
AC/DC "Highway to Hell"
AC/DC "Safe in New York City"
AC/DC "TNT"
AC/DC "Hell's Bells"
Black Sabbath "War Pigs"
Black Sabbath "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath"
Black Sabbath "Suicide Solution"
Dio "Holy Diver"
Steve Miller "Jet Airliner"
Van Halen "Jump"
Queen "Another One Bites the Dust"
Queen "Killer Queen"
Pat Benatar "Hit Me with Your Best Shot"
Pat Benatar "Love is a Battlefield"
Oingo Boingo "Dead Man's Party"
REM "It's the End of the World as We Know It"
Talking Heads "Burning Down the House"
Judas Priest "Some Heads Are Gonna Roll"
Pink Floyd "Run Like Hell"
Pink Floyd "Mother"
Savage Garden "Crash and Burn"
Dave Matthews Band "Crash Into Me"
Bangles "Walk Like an Egyptian"
Pretenders "My City Was Gone"
Alanis Morissette "Ironic"
Barenaked Ladies "Falling for the First Time"
Fuel "Bad Day"
John Parr "St. Elmo's Fire"
Peter Gabriel "When You're Falling"
Kansas "Dust in the Wind"
Led Zeppelin "Stairway to Heaven"
The Beatles "A Day in the Life"
The Beatles "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"
The Beatles "Ticket To Ride"
The Beatles "Obla Di, Obla Da"
Bob Dylan/Guns N Roses "Knockin' on Heaven's Door"
Arthur Brown "Fire"
Blue Oyster Cult "Burnin' For You"
Paul McCartney and Wings "Live and Let Die"
Jimmy Hendrix "Hey Joe"
Jackson Brown "Doctor My Eyes"
John Mellencamp "Crumbling Down"
John Mellencamp "I'm On Fire"
U2 "Sunday Bloody Sunday"
Boston "Smokin"
Billy Joel "Only the Good Die Young"
Barry McGuire "Eve of Destruction"
Steam "Na Na Na Na Hey Hey"
Drifters "On Broadway"
Shelly Fabares "Johnny Angel"
Los Bravos "Black is Black"
Peter and Gordon "I Go To Pieces"
Peter and Gordon "A World Without Love"
Elvis "(You're the) Devil in Disguise"
Zombies "She's Not There"
Elton John "Benny & The Jets"
Elton John "Daniel"
Elton John "Rocket Man"
Jerry Lee Lewis "Great Balls of Fire"
Santana "Evil Ways"
Louis Armstrong "What A Wonderful World"
Youngbloods "Get Together"
Ad Libs "The Boy from New York City"
Peter Paul and Mary "Blowin' in the Wind"
Peter Paul and Mary "Leavin' on a Jet Plane"
Rolling Stones "Ruby Tuesday"
Simon And Garfunkel "Bridge Over Troubled Water"
Happenings "See You in Septemeber"
Carole King "I Feel the Earth Move"
Yager and Evans "In the Year 2525"
Norman Greenbaum "Spirit in the Sky"
Brooklyn Bridge "Worst That Could Happen"
Three Degrees "When Will I See You Again"
Cat Stevens "Peace Train"
Cat Stevens "Morning Has Broken"
Jan and Dean "Dead Man's Curve"
Martha & the Vandellas "Nowhere to Run"
Martha and the Vandellas/Van Halen "Dancing in the Streets"
Hollies "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother"
San Cooke Herman Hermits, "Wonder World"
Petula Clark "A Sign of the Times"
Don McLean "American Pie"
J. Frank Wilson "Last Kiss"
Buddy Holly and the Crickets "That'll Be the Day"
John Lennon "Imagine"
Bobby Darin "Mack the Knife"
The Clash "Rock the Casbah"
Surfaris "Wipeout"
Blood Sweat and Tears "And When I Die"
Dave Clark Five "Bits and Pieces"
Tramps "Disco Inferno"
Paper Lace "The Night Chicago Died"
Frank Sinatra "New York, New York"
Creedence Clearwater Revival "Travelin' Band"
The Gap Band "You Dropped a Bomb On Me"
Alien Ant Farm "Smooth Criminal"
3 Doors Down "Duck and Run"
The Doors "The End"
Third Eye Blind "Jumper"
Neil Diamond "America"
Lenny Kravitz "Fly Away"
Tom Petty "Free Fallin'"
Bruce Springsteen "I'm On Fire"
Bruce Springsteen "Goin' Down"
Phil Collins "In the Air Tonight"
Alice in Chains "Rooster"
Alice in Chains "Sea of Sorrow"
Alice in Chains "Down in a Hole"
Alice in Chains "Them Bone"
Beastie Boys "Sure Shot"
Beastie Boys "Sabotage"
The Cult "Fire Woman"
Everclear "Santa Monica"
Filter "Hey Man, Nice Shot"
Foo Fighters "Learn to Fly"
Korn "Falling Away From Me"
Red Hot Chili Peppers "Aeroplane"
Red Hot Chili Peppers "Under the Bridge"
Smashing Pumpkins "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"
System of a Down "Chop Suey!"
Skeeter Davis "End of the World"
Rickey Nelson "Travelin' Man"
Chi-Lites "Have You Seen Her"
Animals "We Gotta Get Out of This Place"
Fontella Bass "Rescue Me"
Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels "Devil with the Blue Dress"
James Taylor "Fire and Rain"
Edwin Starr/Bruce Springstein "War"
Lynyrd Skynyrd "Tuesday's Gone"
Limp Bizkit "Break Stuff"
Green Day "Brain Stew"
Temple of the Dog "Say Hello to Heaven"
Sugar Ray "Fly"
Local H "Bound for the Floor"
Slipknot "Left Behind, Wait and Bleed"
Bush "Speed Kills"
311 "Down"
Stone Temple Pilots "Big Bang Baby," Dead and Bloated"
Soundgarden "Fell on Black Days," Black Hole Sun"
Nina "99 Luft Balloons/99 Red Balloons"
It's a great way to market yourself and looks impressive on a resume.
It's a great way to learn design and programming.
And it's definately egoenhancing:-)
Uranium is a radioactive metal period. In fact everything beyond Lead in the periodic table is radioactive. Uranium 238 is less active and mostly Alpha decay active as opposed to U 235 that is more active with beta decay and gamma radiation.
Depleted Uranium has little or no U235 and almost 100% consists of U238. Still ratioactive, eventually creates isotopes of lower atoms that will emit beta and gamma radiation witch is more dangerous to us than alpha radiation that only penetrates the body a few millimeters.
You can sell GPL'ed software! You must also give away the source and the right to give it all away for free. Red Hat, MandrakeSoft, SuSE et al are all selling Linux.
For the record IANAL
Yep, only then it was Word Perfect, Lotus 1-2-3, dBase, Sidekick etc that ruled the PC (relatively rare as it was then)
Today you can get Word Perfect (that I actually prefer) and the others are defunct AFAIK
So, your parents post is very valid.
By the time these kids get out into Real Life the corporate standard (of what corporation BTW;-) may/will be changed.
Besides there are very good professional office apps out there. Myself, I actually prefer Word Perfect over MS Word, and have done so since before Microsofts predatory behaviour dawned on me.
By stating that using this or that for K-12 kids in school because todays business use or dont use it is absurd and had it been applied before we would still use feather pens and ride a horse to work...
I did not intend to make you out to be a lover/hater of any OS. I only stated that (based on your post) you appear to have a slight slant towards Microsoft.
I myself don't run Debian, Mandrake and Red Hat is what I use. I too use/recommend the appropriate OS. My kids run Win98 and so does my mother in-law. At work I run NT (Corporate decree), Linux , Solaris and HP-UX.
For me it's as simple as this, why would I pay Big Bucks (tm) for an OS that'll cause me grief and instability when I can get a stable OS that'll do the job better for free?? At work I am one of the very few not affected (directly) by all these LookOut viruses because I insist on using standard mail. (yes, we do anti-virus updates daily and apply patches as soon as recommended.)
Strange. I get announcements delivered to my inbox I insist that MS is good at puting out bug fixes but low key on anouncing them. If you know where to find them or what mailing lists to subscribe to you'll get the info otherwise you're in the dark.
That would apply to most people!
Does being less than hypercritical of Microsoft make one a MS-lover? I've never said anything bad of *nix, but then, I've also never painted *nix in glowing, flowery prose, either No, that makes you an unusally balanced person (for this forum at least). Me being a *nix pro for 16+ years I can, here and publicly, say that unix has a number of bad sides, the latest of the big Linux distros are starting to address the most serious, the high learning curve. Today I would say that it's as easy or easier to install Linux but not quite as easy to use for Joe Sixpack (yet).
Microsoft does engage in some shady practises and does charge a lot for poor quality products. But they have also to a good extent helped generate the computer boom and occationally release good software and/or concepts.
Specifically to TheCabal. I did defend your statement against the AC. Take it easy:-)
While I hate MicroShaft (ask anyone at my job) and TheCabal appears to have a slight slant towards BillCo, I must reply to this!
They are pretty good at putting out fixes (if more than a little low key on the announcement thereof)
This kind of childish personal attacks only gets back at you and unfortunately all of us. (I think you know that using AC to post)
They certainly deserve a good bashing from time to time. However, please keep the bashing based on real facts, not generic BS. (we like to bash them for their FUD, let's not spread FUD ourselves)
GPL states that you have to distribute the source with the binaries. No exceptions That's why GPL is often referred to as viral.
Completely new things like drivers can possibly be distributed in binary only or library format IANAL.
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That Linux and Apache are not compatible.
We seem to have a good ways to go befoer everything that runs on Winblows will also run on Linux:-))
The higher moral standard I am referring to implies that the rampant copyright infringement should not be happening.
The latest top 10 hit being copied in the millions will attract attention. The low volume copying of slightly older music will not attract the same attention. Yes it is about money and possibly control, but also about perception. RIAA belives that there is a threat that is the important part.
Yes there probably was large scale copying before Napster, but those servers were likely shutdown by RIAA lawyers relatively quickly. Whereas Napster has been brewing for quite some time now and enabled much larger copying in a much harder to stop fashion.
In short mostly Napster and the associated large volume copying pissed RIAA off.
The moral attitude that we should take does not seem to exist in a lot of people. If the "net community" had a more reasonable approach big corporations would not make such a fuzz.
Noone can tell you who you can or cannot give things to. However, there are laws and rulings regulating to who, how and why you can give away copies of things. Especially copies of things that you didn't own in the first place...
RIAA does not think of the art or the artist, only about the bottom line on the financial reports. They screw the artists almost as bad as us, the consumers. They are big enough to cause trouble if you piss them off and that is what all the Napster trading has done, it pissed them off. They belive that Napster has caused damage to their bottom line and come cracking down. I think that Napster (et al) have been revenue neutral to RIAA companies, but that is not the point.
The issue is not you or me making copies for close friends. Nor is it you or me downloading copies of music we already have on a different medium.
The issue is the rampant wholesale copying and downloading of new music in large volume. There have been cases where music was available on Napster before it was available on CD...
That's not fair use, that's plain copyright infringement.
Do I belive that we should be allowed to share mp3? Yes, based on either downloading of music you already have on another medium or giving to friends. I do belive that Napster has hurt fair use because of the abuse. I do belive that RIAA would be less insistent had the "online community" kept a higher moral standard. I do belive that to some extent the CD sales have benefitted from mp3 trading.
And, Yes I do think that RIAA's members are ripping us all off big time and they are partially at fault here!
If something is presented to me on IE's smarttags feature, I would filter it through an anti-pro-MS filter. Content/always/ has to be digested in the context of the source. I see no reason why MS is any more biased than/.
I understand the difference between a regular underline link and a squiggly underline SmartTags link. You may do so. But Joe Sixpack? Not bloody likely!! Microsoft does not care about you and me, we are few and a lost cause. Joe Sixpack are many and easy to manipulate and a huge revenue potential. That's what MS is going for.
While I agree that/. is not exactly neutral in the way things are presented, at least I know that a lot of things tend to be slanted (not always justly). If something is presented to me on/. I would filter it through an anti-anti-MS filter. So if a link is pro MS it must be true....
Those who would respond "its their website, they can do with it what they want," should ask themselves if the same applies to MS's smarttags.
It is their site and therefore it is NOT up to MS (or SmartTags) to modify
Slashdot Mirror
Still does not help me as a Canadian wanting to use this in Europe as well. So, no not a world phone but certainly neat.
So true, my only comment is that the On the Desktop page is core to the acceptance of Linux and therefore also core to the value of LWN.
I'd happily pay 10 bucks or so for a year of LWN though
Count me in as well
I may be picky but I think the Brits learned the same lesson before Soviet even existed...
You are getting this backwards! The French demanded that any page served to a French terminal be filtered for Nazi stuff.
The US is demanding that any page served from a US server terminating anywhere verify age of viewers of certain types of pages.
Therefore, in effect, US policymakers are setting rules on what and how pages can be viewed in my country.
I have no problem with the French approach, nor would I if USA took the same approach. It is up to the American voters to decide if they like that. But I have no influence on American politicians and can not vote them out when they missbehave.
The issue isn't really porn or not but rather wether policy makers in the US are allowed to make policy that regulates the contetnt of the internet especially outside of USA. I am strongly opposed to US politicians interfering in the domestic policies of my country.
I agree, the problem is that you are applying your questionable ethics in my country, and all other countries. If the US decides to invoke all kids of rules on who can view what and applies that to traffic terminating at a computer inside the US of A I have no problem. It's when you enforce your rules outside your country it's a problem.
If my country starts to suggest bizarre laws like this I am free to speak to "my" politician about it. I have no way, nor should I have, to influence US politicians on their domestic laws. I just don't want your domestic laws here. God knows what the next domestic law you will try to shove down the throat of the rest of the world.
I find it bizarre that anyone can see it fit that the US government belives they have any rights whatsoever to decide what to allow to kids in my country.
The fact that the policymakers in the US deems nude bodies harmful to people under 18 but guns and violence acceptable to anyone does not mean that this is the case all over the world. In fact most countries outside USA are more concerned about violence than nudity and in many countries there is a age limit of 15 to view violence.
There are many other variations on what is deemed inappropriate in various countries.
I belive that there is only one way to solve this. Let the information free and encourage parents to act responsively. I strongly belive that it is my responsibility to set the limit for my three kids and for no other kids. It is not the responsibility of my government and certainly not the responsibility of the government of another country (USA).
...put him in a funny spot. He has publicly wowed to destroy those who harbour terrorists and also that MS is good for America. ;-D
So, does he go after the hand that fed him? Or will he leave MS alone and thereby in effect harbour someone who's harbouring terrorism. We all know what he promised to do to those
Drowning Pool "Bodies"
Mudvayne "Death Blooms"
Megadeth "Dread and the Fugitive"
Megadeth "Sweating Bullets"
Saliva "Click Click Boom"
P.O.D. "Boom"
Metallica "Seek and Destroy"
Metallica "Harvester or Sorrow"
Metallica "Enter Sandman"
Metallica "Fade to Black"
All Rage Against The Machine songs
Nine Inch Nails "Head Like a Hole"
Godsmack "Bad Religion"
Tool "Intolerance"
Soundgarden "Blow Up the Outside World"
AC/DC "Shot Down in Flames"
AC/DC "Shoot to Thrill"
AC/DC "Dirty Deeds"
AC/DC "Highway to Hell"
AC/DC "Safe in New York City"
AC/DC "TNT"
AC/DC "Hell's Bells"
Black Sabbath "War Pigs"
Black Sabbath "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath"
Black Sabbath "Suicide Solution"
Dio "Holy Diver"
Steve Miller "Jet Airliner"
Van Halen "Jump"
Queen "Another One Bites the Dust"
Queen "Killer Queen"
Pat Benatar "Hit Me with Your Best Shot"
Pat Benatar "Love is a Battlefield"
Oingo Boingo "Dead Man's Party"
REM "It's the End of the World as We Know It"
Talking Heads "Burning Down the House"
Judas Priest "Some Heads Are Gonna Roll"
Pink Floyd "Run Like Hell"
Pink Floyd "Mother"
Savage Garden "Crash and Burn"
Dave Matthews Band "Crash Into Me"
Bangles "Walk Like an Egyptian"
Pretenders "My City Was Gone"
Alanis Morissette "Ironic"
Barenaked Ladies "Falling for the First Time"
Fuel "Bad Day"
John Parr "St. Elmo's Fire"
Peter Gabriel "When You're Falling"
Kansas "Dust in the Wind"
Led Zeppelin "Stairway to Heaven"
The Beatles "A Day in the Life"
The Beatles "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"
The Beatles "Ticket To Ride"
The Beatles "Obla Di, Obla Da"
Bob Dylan/Guns N Roses "Knockin' on Heaven's Door"
Arthur Brown "Fire"
Blue Oyster Cult "Burnin' For You"
Paul McCartney and Wings "Live and Let Die"
Jimmy Hendrix "Hey Joe"
Jackson Brown "Doctor My Eyes"
John Mellencamp "Crumbling Down"
John Mellencamp "I'm On Fire"
U2 "Sunday Bloody Sunday"
Boston "Smokin"
Billy Joel "Only the Good Die Young"
Barry McGuire "Eve of Destruction"
Steam "Na Na Na Na Hey Hey"
Drifters "On Broadway"
Shelly Fabares "Johnny Angel"
Los Bravos "Black is Black"
Peter and Gordon "I Go To Pieces"
Peter and Gordon "A World Without Love"
Elvis "(You're the) Devil in Disguise"
Zombies "She's Not There"
Elton John "Benny & The Jets"
Elton John "Daniel"
Elton John "Rocket Man"
Jerry Lee Lewis "Great Balls of Fire"
Santana "Evil Ways"
Louis Armstrong "What A Wonderful World"
Youngbloods "Get Together"
Ad Libs "The Boy from New York City"
Peter Paul and Mary "Blowin' in the Wind"
Peter Paul and Mary "Leavin' on a Jet Plane"
Rolling Stones "Ruby Tuesday"
Simon And Garfunkel "Bridge Over Troubled Water"
Happenings "See You in Septemeber"
Carole King "I Feel the Earth Move"
Yager and Evans "In the Year 2525"
Norman Greenbaum "Spirit in the Sky"
Brooklyn Bridge "Worst That Could Happen"
Three Degrees "When Will I See You Again"
Cat Stevens "Peace Train"
Cat Stevens "Morning Has Broken"
Jan and Dean "Dead Man's Curve"
Martha & the Vandellas "Nowhere to Run"
Martha and the Vandellas/Van Halen "Dancing in the Streets"
Hollies "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother"
San Cooke Herman Hermits, "Wonder World"
Petula Clark "A Sign of the Times"
Don McLean "American Pie"
J. Frank Wilson "Last Kiss"
Buddy Holly and the Crickets "That'll Be the Day"
John Lennon "Imagine"
Bobby Darin "Mack the Knife"
The Clash "Rock the Casbah"
Surfaris "Wipeout"
Blood Sweat and Tears "And When I Die"
Dave Clark Five "Bits and Pieces"
Tramps "Disco Inferno"
Paper Lace "The Night Chicago Died"
Frank Sinatra "New York, New York"
Creedence Clearwater Revival "Travelin' Band"
The Gap Band "You Dropped a Bomb On Me"
Alien Ant Farm "Smooth Criminal"
3 Doors Down "Duck and Run"
The Doors "The End"
Third Eye Blind "Jumper"
Neil Diamond "America"
Lenny Kravitz "Fly Away"
Tom Petty "Free Fallin'"
Bruce Springsteen "I'm On Fire"
Bruce Springsteen "Goin' Down"
Phil Collins "In the Air Tonight"
Alice in Chains "Rooster"
Alice in Chains "Sea of Sorrow"
Alice in Chains "Down in a Hole"
Alice in Chains "Them Bone"
Beastie Boys "Sure Shot"
Beastie Boys "Sabotage"
The Cult "Fire Woman"
Everclear "Santa Monica"
Filter "Hey Man, Nice Shot"
Foo Fighters "Learn to Fly"
Korn "Falling Away From Me"
Red Hot Chili Peppers "Aeroplane"
Red Hot Chili Peppers "Under the Bridge"
Smashing Pumpkins "Bullet With Butterfly Wings"
System of a Down "Chop Suey!"
Skeeter Davis "End of the World"
Rickey Nelson "Travelin' Man"
Chi-Lites "Have You Seen Her"
Animals "We Gotta Get Out of This Place"
Fontella Bass "Rescue Me"
Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels "Devil with the Blue Dress"
James Taylor "Fire and Rain"
Edwin Starr/Bruce Springstein "War"
Lynyrd Skynyrd "Tuesday's Gone"
Limp Bizkit "Break Stuff"
Green Day "Brain Stew"
Temple of the Dog "Say Hello to Heaven"
Sugar Ray "Fly"
Local H "Bound for the Floor"
Slipknot "Left Behind, Wait and Bleed"
Bush "Speed Kills"
311 "Down"
Stone Temple Pilots "Big Bang Baby," Dead and Bloated"
Soundgarden "Fell on Black Days," Black Hole Sun"
Nina "99 Luft Balloons/99 Red Balloons"
It's a great way to market yourself and looks impressive on a resume. :-)
It's a great way to learn design and programming.
And it's definately egoenhancing
Uranium is a radioactive metal period. In fact everything beyond Lead in the periodic table is radioactive. Uranium 238 is less active and mostly Alpha decay active as opposed to U 235 that is more active with beta decay and gamma radiation.
Depleted Uranium has little or no U235 and almost 100% consists of U238. Still ratioactive, eventually creates isotopes of lower atoms that will emit beta and gamma radiation witch is more dangerous to us than alpha radiation that only penetrates the body a few millimeters.
You can sell GPL'ed software! You must also give away the source and the right to give it all away for free. Red Hat, MandrakeSoft, SuSE et al are all selling Linux.
For the record IANAL
Yep, only then it was Word Perfect, Lotus 1-2-3, dBase, Sidekick etc that ruled the PC (relatively rare as it was then)
Today you can get Word Perfect (that I actually prefer) and the others are defunct AFAIK
So, your parents post is very valid.
By the time these kids get out into Real Life the corporate standard (of what corporation BTW ;-) may/will be changed.
Besides there are very good professional office apps out there. Myself, I actually prefer Word Perfect over MS Word, and have done so since before Microsofts predatory behaviour dawned on me.
By stating that using this or that for K-12 kids in school because todays business use or dont use it is absurd and had it been applied before we would still use feather pens and ride a horse to work...
I did not intend to make you out to be a lover/hater of any OS. I only stated that (based on your post) you appear to have a slight slant towards Microsoft.
:-)
I myself don't run Debian, Mandrake and Red Hat is what I use. I too use/recommend the appropriate OS. My kids run Win98 and so does my mother in-law. At work I run NT (Corporate decree), Linux , Solaris and HP-UX.
For me it's as simple as this, why would I pay Big Bucks (tm) for an OS that'll cause me grief and instability when I can get a stable OS that'll do the job better for free?? At work I am one of the very few not affected (directly) by all these LookOut viruses because I insist on using standard mail. (yes, we do anti-virus updates daily and apply patches as soon as recommended.)
Strange. I get announcements delivered to my inbox
I insist that MS is good at puting out bug fixes but low key on anouncing them. If you know where to find them or what mailing lists to subscribe to you'll get the info otherwise you're in the dark.
That would apply to most people!
Does being less than hypercritical of Microsoft make one a MS-lover? I've never said anything bad of *nix, but then, I've also never painted *nix in glowing, flowery prose, either
No, that makes you an unusally balanced person (for this forum at least). Me being a *nix pro for 16+ years I can, here and publicly, say that unix has a number of bad sides, the latest of the big Linux distros are starting to address the most serious, the high learning curve. Today I would say that it's as easy or easier to install Linux but not quite as easy to use for Joe Sixpack (yet).
Microsoft does engage in some shady practises and does charge a lot for poor quality products. But they have also to a good extent helped generate the computer boom and occationally release good software and/or concepts.
Specifically to TheCabal. I did defend your statement against the AC. Take it easy
GPL states that you have to distribute the source with the binaries. No exceptions That's why GPL is often referred to as viral.
Completely new things like drivers can possibly be distributed in binary only or library format IANAL.
That Linux and Apache are not compatible. :-))
We seem to have a good ways to go befoer everything that runs on Winblows will also run on Linux
The higher moral standard I am referring to implies that the rampant copyright infringement should not be happening.
The latest top 10 hit being copied in the millions will attract attention. The low volume copying of slightly older music will not attract the same attention. Yes it is about money and possibly control, but also about perception. RIAA belives that there is a threat that is the important part.
Yes there probably was large scale copying before Napster, but those servers were likely shutdown by RIAA lawyers relatively quickly. Whereas Napster has been brewing for quite some time now and enabled much larger copying in a much harder to stop fashion.
In short mostly Napster and the associated large volume copying pissed RIAA off.
The moral attitude that we should take does not seem to exist in a lot of people. If the "net community" had a more reasonable approach big corporations would not make such a fuzz.
Noone can tell you who you can or cannot give things to. However, there are laws and rulings regulating to who, how and why you can give away copies of things. Especially copies of things that you didn't own in the first place...
RIAA does not think of the art or the artist, only about the bottom line on the financial reports. They screw the artists almost as bad as us, the consumers. They are big enough to cause trouble if you piss them off and that is what all the Napster trading has done, it pissed them off. They belive that Napster has caused damage to their bottom line and come cracking down. I think that Napster (et al) have been revenue neutral to RIAA companies, but that is not the point.
The issue is not you or me making copies for close friends. Nor is it you or me downloading copies of music we already have on a different medium.
The issue is the rampant wholesale copying and downloading of new music in large volume. There have been cases where music was available on Napster before it was available on CD...
That's not fair use, that's plain copyright infringement.
Do I belive that we should be allowed to share mp3? Yes, based on either downloading of music you already have on another medium or giving to friends. I do belive that Napster has hurt fair use because of the abuse. I do belive that RIAA would be less insistent had the "online community" kept a higher moral standard. I do belive that to some extent the CD sales have benefitted from mp3 trading.
And, Yes I do think that RIAA's members are ripping us all off big time and they are partially at fault here!
I understand the difference between a regular underline link and a squiggly underline SmartTags link. You may do so. But Joe Sixpack? Not bloody likely!! Microsoft does not care about you and me, we are few and a lost cause. Joe Sixpack are many and easy to manipulate and a huge revenue potential. That's what MS is going for.
It is their site and therefore it is NOT up to MS (or SmartTags) to modify