Gartner and IDC are counting different things.
IDC counts Linux server licenses as tabulated by distributor sales and perhaps spot check polls.
Gartner is counting new server hardware shipments with Linux pre-installed/ordered. Given that much (more than 50%) of new Linux licenses are installed on old hardware, the discrepancy is easy to understand.
Finally, given the nature of OSS distribution, there are, ahhh, large standard errors in these estimates anyway.
I was a UNIX developer in the 1980s. Moved into mgmt (remained technical) and then pursued my MBA in 1990-92 while working. Got away from programming, but stayed on top of using computers and the technology as best as possible. Now I am a technical industry analyst (more technical than most of my comrades I would say).
An MBA is not an avenue to pursue if you want to remain a top notch programmer. The MBA degree covers a vast amount of territory which in itself can be quite technical (economics, financial, market theory, etc...) but has little to do with programming. If, OTOH, you want to be a technically knowledgeable senior manager, it could help and give you an edge seeking executive, venture, wall street or industry analyst jobs. Keep in mind technical knowledge is important in these jobs, programming skill is not, and knowledge of the "market" and people skills are paramount.
IDC was counting Linux licenses sold by distributors. Gartner is counting Linux pre-installed on new hardware, a smaller number.
Much of what IDC counts gets installed on older machines or even "client" PCs to be used as a server. Gartner is counting new server HW with Linux only. And these are annual rates, not install bases.
However, both have a hard time with accuracy due to the nature of OSS distribution methods.
We lost our "innocence" long before 1941....
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For example, in the War of 1812 where New England not only did not contribute to the US cause, but actually committed treason and cooperated with the English. Even called a secession conference in 1814...only Jackson at New Orleans and the Virginians/Marylanders in late 1814 saved the day.
Worse was 1861-65...worse than WWII and I combined for the US.
And of course, was the 1866-78 or so crusade against the Native Americans....
Innocence lost >100 years before WWII...and perhaps even before 1775-83....
"Funny, weren't we just reading the obituary of Linux on the desktop?"
PDAs are *not* desktop computers.
Linux has a very good chance of gaining market leadership on client devices smaller than a notebook where tight interoperability with MS Office and other MS SW is not required.
Whoa! I use Office 2000 and some of my collegues have Office 97. I guarantee that 2000 files are not 100% compatible going back to 97. XP is even worse.
.... for businesses. There are many people, especially executuves that do not understand the GPL and therefore are afraid of it. Worse, since it is the most visible open source license, many equate OSS with GPL.
The computer industry has been living with the GPL for 17 years. The companies most at risk to "GPL pollution" into proprietary code are those that do not understand the GPL nor recognize that GPL code is everywhere and readily available to their programmers. Now many, but certainly not all, programmers understand the GPL. The ones that do know how to deal with it. The ones that don't, or are malicious or are in trouble on their project and just happen to find some GPL code to solve their problem are a risk. The way to deal with this is to ensure that a company has a GPL policy that is widely communicated. Also, the senior technical people should be watchful during code reviews as to what is being put into their components.
An interesting aside....what does MS propose to do exactly about this "virus"?
1. Shut down the economy while we all review trillions of lines of code *including* all Microsoft code looking for GPL pollution.
2. FUD the GPL away.
3. Buy the Free Software Foundation and rework it.
4. Encourage its and programmers everywhere to understand it and deal with it like we have been for 17 years.
Microsoft, you still have all of your lifelines.
Use your think time carefully as well!
It is incredibly unlikely that the following SW compaines would GPL much if any of their SW (some might release a few pieces under their own public license):
IBM (some), Oracle, BEA Systems, CA, iPlanet/Sun, Sybase, Silverstream, HP (some), i2, Ariba, Manguistics, SAP, BAAN, PeopleSoft, MatrixOne, SDRC, SAS,....the list goes on and on....
Microsoft is worried about competing with some of these companies, especially, EJB and J2EE people.
And of course Oracle.
I've seen this happen at IBM shareholder meetings. So, yes, you can. However, if the question is out of touch with the business needs of the company and views of the majority of shareholders, it will be readily dismissed with an answer that makes sense from that perspective.
The question posed here would not go very far or get much respect in a F1000 shareholders meeting. You'd have to show up with total cost of ownership data, be intimently famliar with their IT environment, applications and requirements, etc...
it will be IBM and Dell and perhaps RedHat and maybe VA Linux left standing.....HP, Compaq will remain players as well. I don't see how the rest will survive. However, there is a new bunch of companies that are doing OSS middleware (above Linux)...we still have to see how that plays out. e.g., Covalent with Apache, NuSphere with MySQL, Great Bridge with PostgreSQL, Lutris with Enhydra and OpenVertical (competes with Ariba).
Ceres, with a diameter of 480 miles, and.000x mass of Earth, would not make a dent, unless it crashed into the Earth with significant velocity.
But then, do really really want to live here after that?:-)
Listen, get out and travel a bit. I'm from the South and parts of my family go back 300 years in French Louisiana. Now, while there is too much prejudice down there, it's worse here in NYC area where I now live. My experiences living in both parts of the country tell me that the South has by and large (with some extremist exceptions) learned to live integrated with European, Hispanic, African and other Americans much better than good ole Westchester Co., NY.
In some ways I agree with you...e.g., the USA needs to worry about the American continents more than the whole world. And are guilty of many sins (e.g. Native Americans, African-Americans, illegal abuse of the Constitution especially during the War for Southern Independence, etc...). OTOH, It's reasonable to assert that Germany would have won WWI without USA involvement. Of course, maybe that would be the best (as there probably would not have been a Hitler)....but nonetheless....Europe would be a German dominated
continent....perhaps it is anyway...but not in the same way.
I'd like to see Europeans and Asians step up to their responsibility in Europe and Asia and let us out. We pay too many taxes to do it for the whole world anyway.
Plus we still have our own disagreements at home to resolve.
OTOH, Europe and Asia have demonstrated a propensity for war and horror way beyond that of the Western Hemisphere.... Can you really take responsibility? Many in the USA question that.
Listen, there are many ways to execute a plan like those nuts in Colo. did without the use of modern assault weapons. Indeed, just tow up an antique Civil War cannon loaded with double canister to your favorite company or school cafeteria during lunch and fire a couple of rounds. Hey and wear era uniforms....people would think you are setting up a demo or something.
And then of course there are chemicals....and soon (scary) bio-agents......
Letting the police and criminals have a monopoly in guns is a big mistake.
You need to study the history of Germany in the 1930s more to understand the potential of what you suggest. Hitler bragged about his total gun control program (essentially the same as you propose) saying that his legislation would "demonstrate" to the world the "benefits" of total gun control.
The country as founded in 1787 has been radically altered from a true Republic of Sovereign States into a Consolidated Nation which was completed in 1865. Since then, that Consolidated Nation has repeatedly and continually invaded people's lives and restricted freedom. While some of the actions of the government make sense, much is way beyond what was originally intended by our founding fathers. We continue to move closer to being an "Empire".
Corporations with all of their checks and intrusiveness are in many ways modelled after the Consolidated Nation.
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In about 1981. A friend bought it for $5000 and had it in his living room, much to the chagrin of his mother!
Calling one more advanced than the other is a bit difficult. It's a matter of taste.
KDE is like the Windows 9X interface with some differences, of course.
GNOME is much more like the OS/2 Workplace Shell which also was an object-oriented, SOM-(CORBA) based environment.
I liked the WPS better than W9X...and like GNOME better than KDE.
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"Special effects are also superior - rarely in your face, but always there, and entirely realistic. (I'm going to ignore the aliens.)"
Those were not aliens. I don't think anyway. They were the descendants of the robots.
Gartner and IDC are counting different things.
IDC counts Linux server licenses as tabulated by distributor sales and perhaps spot check polls.
Gartner is counting new server hardware shipments with Linux pre-installed/ordered. Given that much (more than 50%) of new Linux licenses are installed on old hardware, the discrepancy is easy to understand.
Finally, given the nature of OSS distribution, there are, ahhh, large standard errors in these estimates anyway.
How are copies counted?
How are throw-aways counted?
How are pre-load erases counted?
How is piracy (of proprietary SW) counted?
I was a UNIX developer in the 1980s. Moved into mgmt (remained technical) and then pursued my MBA in 1990-92 while working. Got away from programming, but stayed on top of using computers and the technology as best as possible. Now I am a technical industry analyst (more technical than most of my comrades I would say).
An MBA is not an avenue to pursue if you want to remain a top notch programmer. The MBA degree covers a vast amount of territory which in itself can be quite technical (economics, financial, market theory, etc...) but has little to do with programming. If, OTOH, you want to be a technically knowledgeable senior manager, it could help and give you an edge seeking executive, venture, wall street or industry analyst jobs. Keep in mind technical knowledge is important in these jobs, programming skill is not, and knowledge of the "market" and people skills are paramount.
Good luck....
IDC was counting Linux licenses sold by distributors. Gartner is counting Linux pre-installed on new hardware, a smaller number.
Much of what IDC counts gets installed on older machines or even "client" PCs to be used as a server. Gartner is counting new server HW with Linux only. And these are annual rates, not install bases.
However, both have a hard time with accuracy due to the nature of OSS distribution methods.
For example, in the War of 1812 where New England not only did not contribute to the US cause, but actually committed treason and cooperated with the English. Even called a secession conference in 1814...only Jackson at New Orleans and the Virginians/Marylanders in late 1814 saved the day.
Worse was 1861-65...worse than WWII and I combined for the US.
And of course, was the 1866-78 or so crusade against the Native Americans....
Innocence lost >100 years before WWII...and perhaps even before 1775-83....
"Funny, weren't we just reading the obituary of Linux on the desktop?"
PDAs are *not* desktop computers.
Linux has a very good chance of gaining market leadership on client devices smaller than a notebook where tight interoperability with MS Office and other MS SW is not required.
Whoa! I use Office 2000 and some of my collegues have Office 97. I guarantee that 2000 files are not 100% compatible going back to 97. XP is even worse.
.... for businesses. There are many people, especially executuves that do not understand the GPL and therefore are afraid of it. Worse, since it is the most visible open source license, many equate OSS with GPL.
The computer industry has been living with the GPL for 17 years. The companies most at risk to "GPL pollution" into proprietary code are those that do not understand the GPL nor recognize that GPL code is everywhere and readily available to their programmers. Now many, but certainly not all, programmers understand the GPL. The ones that do know how to deal with it. The ones that don't, or are malicious or are in trouble on their project and just happen to find some GPL code to solve their problem are a risk. The way to deal with this is to ensure that a company has a GPL policy that is widely communicated. Also, the senior technical people should be watchful during code reviews as to what is being put into their components.
An interesting aside....what does MS propose to do exactly about this "virus"?
1. Shut down the economy while we all review trillions of lines of code *including* all Microsoft code looking for GPL pollution.
2. FUD the GPL away.
3. Buy the Free Software Foundation and rework it.
4. Encourage its and programmers everywhere to understand it and deal with it like we have been for 17 years.
Microsoft, you still have all of your lifelines.
Use your think time carefully as well!
Army No. Va.
It is incredibly unlikely that the following SW compaines would GPL much if any of their SW (some might release a few pieces under their own public license):
....the list goes on and on....
IBM (some), Oracle, BEA Systems, CA, iPlanet/Sun, Sybase, Silverstream, HP (some), i2, Ariba, Manguistics, SAP, BAAN, PeopleSoft, MatrixOne, SDRC, SAS,
Microsoft is worried about competing with some of these companies, especially, EJB and J2EE people.
And of course Oracle.
I've seen this happen at IBM shareholder meetings. So, yes, you can. However, if the question is out of touch with the business needs of the company and views of the majority of shareholders, it will be readily dismissed with an answer that makes sense from that perspective.
The question posed here would not go very far or get much respect in a F1000 shareholders meeting. You'd have to show up with total cost of ownership data, be intimently famliar with their IT environment, applications and requirements, etc...
it will be IBM and Dell and perhaps RedHat and maybe VA Linux left standing.....HP, Compaq will remain players as well. I don't see how the rest will survive. However, there is a new bunch of companies that are doing OSS middleware (above Linux)...we still have to see how that plays out. e.g., Covalent with Apache, NuSphere with MySQL, Great Bridge with PostgreSQL, Lutris with Enhydra and OpenVertical (competes with Ariba).
Yes, the police are tracing you down now ;-)....good luck....
Censorship and control of information is a slippery slope to dictatorship and persecution or worse.
Plus can they really hide this from their people? I mean, geez, with wireless coming on?
that's still hanging around from 1912.
Ceres, with a diameter of 480 miles, and .000x mass of Earth, would not make a dent, unless it crashed into the Earth with significant velocity.
:-)
But then, do really really want to live here after that?
Maybe move Mars or Jupiter to affect the Earth.
He's from north of the Potomac and/or Ohio Rivers, clearly.....
Listen, get out and travel a bit. I'm from the South and parts of my family go back 300 years in French Louisiana. Now, while there is too much prejudice down there, it's worse here in NYC area where I now live. My experiences living in both parts of the country tell me that the South has by and large (with some extremist exceptions) learned to live integrated with European, Hispanic, African and other Americans much better than good ole Westchester Co., NY.
Well, I don't know where you are from....but...
In some ways I agree with you...e.g., the USA needs to worry about the American continents more than the whole world. And are guilty of many sins (e.g. Native Americans, African-Americans, illegal abuse of the Constitution especially during the War for Southern Independence, etc...). OTOH, It's reasonable to assert that Germany would have won WWI without USA involvement. Of course, maybe that would be the best (as there probably would not have been a Hitler)....but nonetheless....Europe would be a German dominated
continent....perhaps it is anyway...but not in the same way.
I'd like to see Europeans and Asians step up to their responsibility in Europe and Asia and let us out. We pay too many taxes to do it for the whole world anyway.
Plus we still have our own disagreements at home to resolve.
OTOH, Europe and Asia have demonstrated a propensity for war and horror way beyond that of the Western Hemisphere.... Can you really take responsibility? Many in the USA question that.
Listen, there are many ways to execute a plan like those nuts in Colo. did without the use of modern assault weapons. Indeed, just tow up an antique Civil War cannon loaded with double canister to your favorite company or school cafeteria during lunch and fire a couple of rounds. Hey and wear era uniforms....people would think you are setting up a demo or something.
And then of course there are chemicals....and soon (scary) bio-agents......
Letting the police and criminals have a monopoly in guns is a big mistake.
You need to study the history of Germany in the 1930s more to understand the potential of what you suggest. Hitler bragged about his total gun control program (essentially the same as you propose) saying that his legislation would "demonstrate" to the world the "benefits" of total gun control.
The country as founded in 1787 has been radically altered from a true Republic of Sovereign States into a Consolidated Nation which was completed in 1865. Since then, that Consolidated Nation has repeatedly and continually invaded people's lives and restricted freedom. While some of the actions of the government make sense, much is way beyond what was originally intended by our founding fathers. We continue to move closer to being an "Empire".
Corporations with all of their checks and intrusiveness are in many ways modelled after the Consolidated Nation.
Army No. Va.
Try some of the Caribbean island nations, perhaps Costa Rica and then of course Pacific islands. e.g., Tom Hanks in Castaway had complete freedom.