We'll see. They may very well release it for x86, but I am not so sure that the new motherboards will be standard Intel motherboards. I think they will change them significantly, so that they don't have to deal with DRM for the OS. But,we'll see, I've been wrong before, and it's not wise to hold speculation as facts...
I can see from your post history that you are a serious poster, and not a troll. I'll point out a couple of things, on which I am not an authority, but which seem to be taken as given on/. in regards to Apple.
I'm not sure what you mean by industrial design being special, while hardware design is not. I do want to point out that the design of hardware inside a G5 is quite special, as there are no wires anywhere. To different people that may not mean much, but to those of us who replace hardware for living, it means that they took an extra step towards good sense. Whether that is industrial or hardware design, I'll leave to design critics.
The reason why Apple might be hesitant to release OS X for the clusterfuck that is the WinTel world of drivers is the fact that the WinTel world of drivers is pretty well a clusterfuck. Who's gonna be the first to start rewriting all of their hardware drivers for an OS that has 0 % of the market?
If you are ready to make an argument regarding OS X and drivers please do so now, and explain why you think that OS X should run perfectly on standard x86 hardware.
Ironically, I may well be blowing smoke up my own ass because apple has done some very crazy stuff recently (switched to BSD, released iTunes for windows, switched to Intel). I certainly can't say that they won't release a generic x86 OS, but if you or anyone else could explain the driver situation, I think the rest of us would apprecciate it.
i think efforts like this are important. it shows the desire of x86 users to use the tiger. and who knows, maybe apple will do the unthinkable again. at this point who is to say that they won't?
on behalf of apple users, i'd like to welcome all of you brave X86 adopters out there to the world of OS X. now go and get yourself a powerbook or an ibook and experience the wonders of integrated USB, FireWire and other cool stuff. you're still only getting half of an apple...
Can anyone explain if the curent theories still speculate that eventually all the matter in the universe will be sucked up by black holes?
Also, once that happens will the black holes (as the only remaining objects in spacetime) start attracting each other? I'm hoping they don't reach some sort of a gravitational status-quo where our universe just becomes a universe of complacent singularities.
Nothing better to think about at 1:30 am on a Sunday morning than the death of the universe...
1: Say what do you see when you look through your Windows? 2: A Vista? 1: Exactly. But what if your Windows lacked all the substance? 2: Wow, I could see right through them? 1: Right, and what would you get if your graphical engine could draw see through windows? 2: WOW! A translucent windows theme!!! *ASSPLODE!!*
What's with you people. 200 + posts and no submissions yet? I'll give it a try, and would appreciate if someone could add to it...
Camera pans over a lab, and stops on a middle aged man in an "so two seasons ago" Hawaii shirt.
"Helga" he says "take a look at this please." A middle aged, somewhat overweight, woman with poorly dyed red hair looks at his computer monitor.
"The variable?" she says.
"Yes, I can't figure out why it's coming up negative?"
"Well, how did you declare it?" Helga says, trying not to sound too patronizing.
"To tell you the truth, I don't know" He replies. "I think Xian-Chu coded that as a part of his masters thesis."
"Oh my gosh!" exclaims Helga as she realizes that Xian-Chu has returned to his beloved China well over a semester and a half ago.
"Jason" she says in a more serious tone, her thoughts already on the two moves ahead "which version of Studio Dev Kit are you using? Have you applied all the patches, and updates?"...
I'm thinking about pitching it, whaddayall think? It'll probably be titled "Researchers of error propagated artificial neural networks...of doom!!!"
this will be the first time i'll be buying a console, and i'll be waiting for a PS3. Why? because i was terribly disappointed by their "release" MTV gig, and because of their fumbling on the whole HD issue. as long as sony releases a solid console where I won't have to worry about hardware upgrades, i'll have no trouble waiting...
I think one of the reasons why you got modded troll, and I'm not trolling or flaming, is because a lot of us, really can't take any argument about ID or Creationism seriously.
And if you post it in all seriousness, there's nothing else you can get but troll.
I think most of us are open to certain arguments: human rights in Iraq, abortion, gun laws, emacs vs. vi, but topics such as geocentric universe, flat earth, turtles all the way down, MS security, and ID are very hard to be taken seriously.
ahh, gosh, can't you just let me be a little MS hater? jk. anyway, not to beat the dead horse any more, i'd rather support Sony, no matter how ""evil"" it was, just because of my strong resentment to Microsoft. I don't buy JVC products either because I've had bad experiences with their customer support.
and luckily, i was able to convert both myself, my parents, and my mother in law to apple machines.
because i don't have to put up with sony's mistakes at work. and my relatives aren't pissed off at their computers because sony made an insecure browser and OS.
Why don't you wait for the PS3 then? It will have a BluRay HD DVD drive, which will probably end up being a de-facto standard.
And that way you won't be putting any money in MS's pockets.
That's my plan. I'm with you on the whole video card thing. And since the only online game I play is Enemy Teritorry (now available for OS X) I should be OK.
Amen to that. and coupled with the fact that PS3 will have it right when it comes out, I think I will actually wait for a PS3.
Sure, the price might be higher, but it'll be nice to get rid of a Windows PC and get into the consoles. No hardware upgrades, no cursing at the framerates...
With their shitty antics Microsoft lost me in 2 ways..
Damn those Hackers. Who are they and how can they be stopped?
This past year they were not responsible for things such as millions of private records being given out by various credit card companies, banking institutions and what not. They were also not responsible for vast majority of copyright infringment, ie theft, ie grand larceny, ie murder in the first. I am sick and tired of Hackers.
ooh... Hersch just wrote to tell me about the new Cialis prices... gotta go...
I love it! I've enjoyed both similar situations in the game (in the prison, and when teleporting with Alyx), and this is way more fun. I don't know if it's just the simple pleasure of hearing the bugs die or what, but I can play this all day. (which is actually what I did today).
Thanks RomeoGuy! I'm sure you and your team will be rewarded for your endeavor.
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What's the best way for a stock market newbie to purchase some of this stock?
Online? Throung a magician-agent? or what?
We'll see. They may very well release it for x86, but I am not so sure that the new motherboards will be standard Intel motherboards. I think they will change them significantly, so that they don't have to deal with DRM for the OS.
But,we'll see, I've been wrong before, and it's not wise to hold speculation as facts...
I can see from your post history that you are a serious poster, and not a troll. /. in regards to Apple.
I'll point out a couple of things, on which I am not an authority, but which seem to be taken as given on
I'm not sure what you mean by industrial design being special, while hardware design is not. I do want to point out that the design of hardware inside a G5 is quite special, as there are no wires anywhere.
To different people that may not mean much, but to those of us who replace hardware for living, it means that they took an extra step towards good sense. Whether that is industrial or hardware design, I'll leave to design critics.
The reason why Apple might be hesitant to release OS X for the clusterfuck that is the WinTel world of drivers is the fact that the WinTel world of drivers is pretty well a clusterfuck.
Who's gonna be the first to start rewriting all of their hardware drivers for an OS that has 0 % of the market?
If you are ready to make an argument regarding OS X and drivers please do so now, and explain why you think that OS X should run perfectly on standard x86 hardware.
Ironically, I may well be blowing smoke up my own ass because apple has done some very crazy stuff recently (switched to BSD, released iTunes for windows, switched to Intel). I certainly can't say that they won't release a generic x86 OS, but if you or anyone else could explain the driver situation, I think the rest of us would apprecciate it.
i think efforts like this are important. it shows the desire of x86 users to use the tiger. and who knows, maybe apple will do the unthinkable again. at this point who is to say that they won't?
on behalf of apple users, i'd like to welcome all of you brave X86 adopters out there to the world of OS X. now go and get yourself a powerbook or an ibook and experience the wonders of integrated USB, FireWire and other cool stuff. you're still only getting half of an apple...
Rocketboom...Sweet Mother of God, can you say "awesome cleveage"...
I bet now you're glad you took all those Accounting classes during your studies in IT/Architecture! :)
Can anyone explain if the curent theories still speculate that eventually all the matter in the universe will be sucked up by black holes?
Also, once that happens will the black holes (as the only remaining objects in spacetime) start attracting each other? I'm hoping they don't reach some sort of a gravitational status-quo where our universe just becomes a universe of complacent singularities.
Nothing better to think about at 1:30 am on a Sunday morning than the death of the universe...
yeah, i think you're right. i may be completely wrong, but i think these are the x-rays emmited by the gas on its way to the event horizon.
It's a superb marketing ploy by Microsoft:
1: Say what do you see when you look through your Windows?
2: A Vista?
1: Exactly. But what if your Windows lacked all the substance?
2: Wow, I could see right through them?
1: Right, and what would you get if your graphical engine could draw see through windows?
2: WOW! A translucent windows theme!!! *ASSPLODE!!*
My submission was titled "Vista has no Monads", but I guess that must have been too racy.
What's with you people. 200 + posts and no submissions yet? I'll give it a try, and would appreciate if someone could add to it...
...
Camera pans over a lab, and stops on a middle aged man in an "so two seasons ago" Hawaii shirt.
"Helga" he says "take a look at this please."
A middle aged, somewhat overweight, woman with poorly dyed red hair looks at his computer monitor.
"The variable?" she says.
"Yes, I can't figure out why it's coming up negative?"
"Well, how did you declare it?" Helga says, trying not to sound too patronizing.
"To tell you the truth, I don't know" He replies. "I think Xian-Chu coded that as a part of his masters thesis."
"Oh my gosh!" exclaims Helga as she realizes that Xian-Chu has returned to his beloved China well over a semester and a half ago.
"Jason" she says in a more serious tone, her thoughts already on the two moves ahead "which version of Studio Dev Kit are you using? Have you applied all the patches, and updates?"
I'm thinking about pitching it, whaddayall think?
It'll probably be titled "Researchers of error propagated artificial neural networks...of doom!!!"
count me as one of those people.
this will be the first time i'll be buying a console, and i'll be waiting for a PS3.
Why?
because i was terribly disappointed by their "release" MTV gig, and because of their fumbling on the whole HD issue.
as long as sony releases a solid console where I won't have to worry about hardware upgrades, i'll have no trouble waiting...
I think one of the reasons why you got modded troll, and I'm not trolling or flaming, is because a lot of us, really can't take any argument about ID or Creationism seriously.
And if you post it in all seriousness, there's nothing else you can get but troll.
I think most of us are open to certain arguments: human rights in Iraq, abortion, gun laws, emacs vs. vi, but topics such as geocentric universe, flat earth, turtles all the way down, MS security, and ID are very hard to be taken seriously.
Let me get this right:
;)
So you're saying that it is scientific, and that it does belong in a classrooom?
That's just crazy man...
ahh, gosh, can't you just let me be a little MS hater?
jk.
anyway, not to beat the dead horse any more, i'd rather support Sony, no matter how ""evil"" it was, just because of my strong resentment to Microsoft. I don't buy JVC products either because I've had bad experiences with their customer support.
and luckily, i was able to convert both myself, my parents, and my mother in law to apple machines.
because i don't have to put up with sony's mistakes at work.
and my relatives aren't pissed off at their computers because sony made an insecure browser and OS.
You're right, but this is Slashdot, the home of misappropriated analogies.
Just you sit tight and we'll burn that bridge when we get there, OK?
The apple mouse review topic was all at 1s for a while (about 200 comments) didn't look like anyone was modding it. (Which is probably a good thing.)
Why don't you wait for the PS3 then?
It will have a BluRay HD DVD drive, which will probably end up being a de-facto standard.
And that way you won't be putting any money in MS's pockets.
That's my plan. I'm with you on the whole video card thing. And since the only online game I play is Enemy Teritorry (now available for OS X) I should be OK.
When I referred to HDDVD I meant the resolution, not the standard. I'm all for BluRay..
Amen to that.
and coupled with the fact that PS3 will have it right when it comes out, I think I will actually wait for a PS3.
Sure, the price might be higher, but it'll be nice to get rid of a Windows PC and get into the consoles. No hardware upgrades, no cursing at the framerates...
With their shitty antics Microsoft lost me in 2 ways..
I was under the impression that we should be paying for the software, and that hardware will be free.
How can these, for the lack of a better term, Hackers be expecting to make a buck off free software??
Naah, I don't believe in this. I'm with you Mr. Gates.
Am I the only one getting a one-eyed Pac-Man firing a yellow laser?
(Firefox 1.0)
Damn those Hackers. Who are they and how can they be stopped?
This past year they were not responsible for things such as millions of private records being given out by various credit card companies, banking institutions and what not. They were also not responsible for vast majority of copyright infringment, ie theft, ie grand larceny, ie murder in the first.
I am sick and tired of Hackers.
ooh... Hersch just wrote to tell me about the new Cialis prices... gotta go...
I love it!
I've enjoyed both similar situations in the game (in the prison, and when teleporting with Alyx), and this is way more fun.
I don't know if it's just the simple pleasure of hearing the bugs die or what, but I can play this all day. (which is actually what I did today).
Thanks RomeoGuy! I'm sure you and your team will be rewarded for your endeavor.