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Establishing an IT Budget for a Small Business?

tirthas asks: "I am the Information Manager of a small (20 person) architecture firm and have recently been asked by my employer to prepare a technology spending budget. While I have a good handle on what I would like to spend vs. what I must spend, I am having some difficulty establishing a justifiable budgeting method. I have seen examples of 'per employee' methods and 'percentage of revenue' methods, but the dollars and percentages vary widely. What methods do you use to establish your departmental/company-wide budgets, what are your monetary amounts or percentages, and what successes or failures did you have in establishing your budgets?"

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  1. Keep it real by winkydink · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Might I suggest a method called Figuring Out What You Need and How Much It Will Cost and When You Will Need It? Especially for so small a firm. There is no magic formula that can be applied as many things will be specific to your company and the level of maturity in your IT infrastructure.

    Per employee and percentage of revenue are great metrics to meausre your technology spending against other companies, but I wouldn't use either of them as a budgeting tool.

    As for getting a budget approved, may I recommend presenting things in a menu-like manner along with an explanation of the benefits of making the investment and thre risks of not making the investment. ~

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    1. Re:Keep it real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Make sure that the menu is listed in what you view to be priority order, and why priorities are as they are. (dependencies etc.)

      Management likes nothing more than changing priorities, and helping them understand the ramifications of their decisions is critical to working well with them in the future.

    2. Re:Keep it real by mikelieman · · Score: 2, Informative

      And RIGHT NOW, start preparing for 06, 07, and 08 by listing in 08, a replacement for such things as the disk array which will be obsolete, Antivirus licenses, etc...

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    3. Re:Keep it real by Nos. · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't gloss over things, but don't drown them in detail. Explain the current situation, benefits, problems, costs etc. Present a few options, status quo means this will probably happen. An additional x dollars means we could do this. An additional y means we could do this, etc. Reccommend one, that you honestly feel is the best investment of time and money, and don't be offended if they choose a different option.

    4. Re:Keep it real by a803redman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't forget the "Oh God, that damn thing just died." section.

    5. Re:Keep it real by darkonc · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Bingo --
      Different departments are going to have different needs. Accounts Recievable, for example can probably get away with a P2-200 if you want to make them feel ignored. marketing might use a Mac, or two, and the engineers are probably going to be most productive with reasonably up-to-date boxes (give the hand-me-downs to A-R with new disk drives).

      The executives and upper management, of course, will need the latest and greatest game boxes. Don't give them X-Boxes. It'd be just too obvious.

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    6. Re:Keep it real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who is to say the disk array will be obsolete in 08? I work for a small company, have about 70 end users all together to take care of, and we have stuff older than 2 years. We just recently replaced a 400 mhz server with a new server. However that 400mhz server is still in use and will be until it is completely dead. Not everone is fortunity enough to be able to replace stuff in a timely manor. we still are running office 97 on some machines for no other reason that it will still install on them and does most of what is needed.

    7. Re:Keep it real by swv3752 · · Score: 1

      You should have 3-5 budgets. You should have 1-2 lowball estimates of just bare minimum to scrape by. Say just the cost to effect repairs for the year and any licensing costs.

      Then 1-2 modest proposals of things you expect to keep things running well. Keep reasonable but don't underestimate your needs.

      Lastly, propose 1-2 "pie in the Sky" budgets. Things you like but don't really expect. Make sure to have sound reasoning for each but, don't skimp. You will likely get a few items on the high end budget.

      Be sure to also estimate capital expenditures for adding additional employees. Don't forget licensing.

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    8. Re:Keep it real by Penguinshit · · Score: 1


      Don't forget that as a corporation you can take a tax write-off on the value of the equipment. We amortize our equipment in 3 year cycles. For some stuff (such as your 400mhz server, where the OS and application load doesn't change) you can just let it go until it dies. But for stuff such as user PCs, the 3 year cycle is a good idea.

      Don't forget to add in the extended warranty, which is totally cheap insurance should anything die in those 3 years... That's saved me a major headache many times already.

    9. Re:Keep it real by nightsweat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And then, for every layer of "hostile" management between you and the CFO, add 20% to your budget. Each layer likes to cut a good percentage off the top.

      With any luck you'll still come in a little under budget and can trumpet that accomplishment at review time.

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    10. Re:Keep it real by laxiepoo · · Score: 1

      Amen to that. I'm in the same boat with about 70 users. We retired our 350 MHz, Win NT 4.0 server just last year (now a backup file server), and still have at least two Win95 boxes running strong out there. Mix of Office 97 through Office 2003 around here too. And we're only on an upgrade path as we're upgrading user work stations. We recycle computers too. The progression is about four Tiers of users. The users needing the most horsepower get the best computers, but then those get cycled to the next tier, and so on.

    11. Re:Keep it real by Nintendork · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I'm in a small business that has gone from 40 full time employees to about 150 in the last two years. My boss, the Director of IT started just a few months before me. Prior to him, there was no centralized IT dept. What the parent poster said is 100% true, but I'd like to add some equally important advice.

      You need to itemize your budget into categories such as "Software purchases and maintenance", "Hardware", "Supplies", "Communications", "Training", and so on. Your first time making the budget, this will be an extremely tough process. Rely on reviewing the past years' spending and think of those purchases have not been made that should have (Think backup power, corporate antivirus solution, license audit, backup solution, workstation and server refreshes). This list can be quite long, depending on the company. Make sure you get buy off on this list by talking to all those involved and getting their approval in writing. As an example, make sure everyone is agreeing on the same software products so you don't get blindsided half way into the year by some $10,000 package that you weren't expecting another manager would require. You'll be held accountable for your department's spending compared to what was budgeted, so you absolutely MUST aim high on the estimated cost of everything, even more so on items that are tough to pinpoint the cost on. If there's something that has a fluctuating cost, look at a several year history to recognize growth and aim for the highest cost month at the current growth rate.

      Make your proposal as simplified and easy to understand as possible. Leave out the techie stuff and tell him what he is going to get out of each item. For items that you know will be a tough sell, bring statistics and case studies of other, big name companies that use said item. When your boss sits down with you to review your proposal, you're going to have to fight for your budget. If he/she wants a more granular view into the proposal, give it to him. If he comments that certain items seem a little high, tell him that you put it a little high to give cushion and provide breathing room for unseen costs. During this process, fight for the things that are most important and give him victories on the smaller things. This way, you get the money for the things that matter most and if the boss comes to you later asking for something not so important, you can refer to the budget and ask what he wants bumped. If he backs out and drops his ad-hoc request, save that as ammo for the next budget review in case you need it. If your boss wants to give you an unreasonably low amount, you must set expectations and clarify the items that will have to be bumped from the review. If he's trying to give you your own budget, remind him that you're the one responsible for the budget and that responsibility cannot be given without also giving authority. Most people understand this line of reasoning and those that don't shouldn't be running a business and you're better off finding an employer that you can grow under. There are plenty of companies out there that would hire an experienced individual that puts a real effort into their job and stands behind what they bring to the company.

      When the dust settles, there may be important items that got bumped due to the high costs in catching up to where your department should be at. Do NOT try and squeeze money out of other items to make room for those items that are being bumped early in the year. If crap hits the fan due to that item not being approved in the budget, it's not your fault and your boss made the decision on his own knowing the possible consequences as you explained them. On the other hand, if you get to Q3 and have a little extra money, you'll be in a much better position to purchase that item as a bonus and sleep comfortably knowing that you'll still make budget. Keep in mind though that you'll rarely find yourself getting more breathing room on your budget as the year progresses, so don't count on this happening.

      This process may at

    12. Re:Keep it real by Glonoinha · · Score: 4, Informative

      If your company were to shorten your life-cycle on your hardware to exactly two years, then donate the hardware to schools, you get to write off the entire purchase price of the hardware as a tax deduction even if you have already written it off (in full, or only partially) once.

      Read about it here.

      If your company is profitable and paying ~25% taxes (number pulled out of my butt, I have no idea what the top tax rates are for corporations) you get to deduct the full purchase price the first year (for 25%) up to like a $100k cap, and again the next year when you donate it (for another 25% savings in taxes.)

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    13. Re:Keep it real by Penguinshit · · Score: 1


      No shit...! Thanks for the link. I've got a truck-load of hardware to unload so I'll definitely take this into consideration (gee, and right around review-time too...!).

      Thanks again.

    14. Re:Keep it real by somekool · · Score: 1

      I made this software mainly thinking of personal and household budgets, really not for a business. however you can still enter your evaluated spendings/incomes with dates in there.

      it may at least tell you if you spend too much ;)

      It's not like starting from scratch, I could probably add some feature to help you in your quest.

      I don't know... give it a try ....

      http://justbudget.com/

    15. Re:Keep it real by whoever57 · · Score: 1
      You should have 3-5 budgets. You should have 1-2 lowball estimates of just bare minimum to scrape by. Say just the cost to effect repairs for the year and any licensing costs.
      In my experience, unless you have some very good justification why the larger budgets should be approved, if you take this approach, the approval amount will be your lowest proposed budget.

      Furthermore, can you predict all the expenses that are likely? Are you sure you won't miss some?

      If you have a bare-bones budget, you will still be criticised for missing it, even if it is an unplanned emergency. Because that's what budgets are about: planning. Providing realistic data to management.

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    16. Re:Keep it real by TENTH+SHOW+JAM · · Score: 1

      I recently assembled a plan for a couple of small organisations. My favorite way of doing things is to order things down the page from "Things you will need if you want to do business tomorrow". Add an explanation of each one, stating what are the advantages of the item, and how much it will set them back if they don't. Things like A reliable server to save and backup all your corporate data on. Don't assume suits understand things like why backups are important. They know bucketloads about architecture, and limited quantities about IT. Cost each item. This is your maintenence budget.

      Once this list is made, rule a big red line under that. Then add "Things you can add to make things more productive" This is the category where you look at upgrade cycles. A three year cycle is good for IT. That way people have a consistant outlay each year and things don't get too unmanageable. This is a good spot to put software upgrades in. Remember that there are plenty of cases where a software upgrade is more a liability than an asset. Try for a Standard Operating Environment. Even amongst a small company, it's nice to be able to walk up to any machine and know what it is running. Yes it is not always possible. There is always going to be quirky hardware or software, but try to limit such things to "The machine in the corner" A machine with a burner/colour printer/plotter etc. that is used to make atoms out of bits or vice versa. This contains the anarchy somewhat. Order all these things from "We really need, but could get away with for another year" through to "Gee those new toys look cool and might even be useful."

      Then let your CEO or CFO work it out. They know how much money is in the till. You have a list prioritising importance. They can then see at a glance how much it will cost to implement expanding projects.

      File the full set of proposals away. When a disaster hits and the CEO storms into your office asking why the IT equipment could not deal with whatever disaster hit, pull it out and point to the proposal that was not funded that could have prevented it. Explain that it was not given funding from the CFO. Odds are the CEO will apporve funding for any pie in the sky project rapidly after that to stableize the company. It's stupid, I know. But sadly that is how IT budgets work in small environments. They are all about economy till they are forced to add up the cost of a lost contract or a 48 hour outage.

      For a small business, metrics suck. They are at best an educated guess and at worst a random number. Get to know your business and it's needs. Then put together a plan so that IT can help the business.

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    17. Re:Keep it real by apa666 · · Score: 1

      I couldn't disagree more about the extended warranty. It's money down the drain. The same goes for insurance in most cases (when we're talking about insuring hardware that is, liability insurance and the like is another matter). Instead just allocate a heap of money for buying new things when they break.

    18. Re:Keep it real by Penguinshit · · Score: 1


      Well, for the $100 or so I spend on a PC's 3-year warranty, it costs me twice that much in time and materials to replace the funky HDD.

      I had a laptop with a borked CPU fan exhibit some rather odd behavior just two months ago (the system basically became unusable). Having the technician come out and effect the replacement was worth every stinking penny of that $100.

      Chances are you probably won't need it. However, when you do, you'll recoup your costs many times over. For that reason it's cheap insurance (unless you've got a bunch of spare time to crawl through hardware failures).

    19. Re:Keep it real by nolife · · Score: 3, Informative

      Big picture though. Paying an extra $100 each for a warranty on 20 PC's is $2000. You could buy 3 spare PC's for that amount. In reality, most business PC warranties start at about $200 per pc for 3 years. Considering you can get a bare bones desktop system for about $500-600, you could buy 6 spare PC's for the 20 you need as hot spares and forget the extended warrenty and have less downtime with a broken PC waiting for repair. Even better would be to buy 2 spares and budget the rest of the money for anything that may break.
        The base 1 year warranty would still apply. Of course a lot of small businesses only have a secretary/PC person/materials person so it really depends on the ability of that person. If that person sucks at computers, you could cheat the system and buy 5 extended warranties and use those serial numbers when any of them break ;)

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    20. Re:Keep it real by mollymoo · · Score: 2, Informative
      If extended warraties all cost $100 they would be better value, but most cost a lot more than that. Where did you get your warranty from?

      And extended warranties are rarely 'cheap' insurance, they are very lucrative insurance for sales assistants and insurance companies. As far as cost vs risk goes, extended warranties are rather expensive insurance.

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    21. Re:Keep it real by olorinpc · · Score: 1

      Make sure to ask around the office to see what other things people are expecting you to provide as well. It wouldn't be a nice surprise to find out that say... everyone is moving to voip or something 4-6 months down the road.

    22. Re:Keep it real by pfleming · · Score: 1
      In my small company where I am partner and Technology Overlord we buy the extended warranty on the servers. Workstations are expendable and do not hold any data on them whatsoever - they run LTSP, so they don't get insurance other than standard business insurance.
      Our tech budget is as follows:
      1. Annual licensing fees (not everything can be beer free) Our major licensing outlay is for business software that is obsoleted each year, not all businesses have the same license experience.
      2. Monthly connectivity fees
      3. Reserve funds set aside equal to the cost of a replacement server - two after this year (we run two)
      4. Hardware expansion - this year our network is being expanded due to moving to a new office location, but due to a sabbatical on the part of a new employee (who previously used his own equipment at home but who will work in the office when he is back) we are forgoing the purchase of a new workstation for six months to a year.
      5. A reserve amount equal to one third the cost of our workstation machines is set aside each year. When they finally die (which still should be a few years out - I expect to push them longer than three years) the funds should be available to replace them. The workstations are cheap machines that PXE boot off the wire.
      6. We add a 5%-10% premium to the hardware replacement estimates for reserves.
      The amounts that we have set aside are for a catastrophic replacement strategy. In theory if it burned to the ground we could replace it all. Note that for accounting purposes the money is not all "spent" but it is moved to reserves on the balance sheet. Annual and monthly fees are necessarily expenses, reserves are not taken off the income statement.
    23. Re:Keep it real by caseydk · · Score: 1


      That's great! I'm a small business owner - http://caseysoftware.com/ - without much hardware at this point, but I expect that to change soon.

      Thanks.

    24. Re:Keep it real by hackstraw · · Score: 2, Informative

      If your company were to shorten your life-cycle on your hardware to exactly two years, then donate the hardware to schools, you get to write off the entire purchase price of the hardware as a tax deduction even if you have already written it off (in full, or only partially) once.

      Read about it here.


      OK, I read about it and the 8 year old piece of "news" says:

      1) This only works for "only large companies" which was not defined, but the title of the article says "multi-million dollar" companies. The title of the ask.slashdot question is "Establishing an IT Budget for a Small Business".

      2) Being an 8 year old tax law, this law could either not exist anymore, could have changed significantly, or maybe apply to people like you and I now. More current information would be helpful.

      3) The tax article also says that the equipment must be less than two years, not exactly two years.

      But, what do I know? The parent gets modded informative, and I'll probably get flamebate for being so mean.

    25. Re:Keep it real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      For a small business, metrics suck. They are at best an educated guess and at worst a random number. Get to know your business and it's needs. Then put together a plan so that IT can help the business.

      I agree. I was the IT Director for a 10-person business. We couldn't use "metrics", because you can't find standardized figures on how much to spend for "10 employee mortgage brokerages in Southern California with two offices separated by 120 miles with a pre-existing Windows 2000 domain controller anda self-hosted [via DSL] Windows 2000 e-mail server." Yet, without having those factors included, no metrics could accurately depict our cost structure./p.

  2. Can't give you the entire budget by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 2, Funny

    First, create a "consulting" line item in your budget.

    Second, put $20 million in the consulting budget for next year.

    Third, hire me as your consultant for one year.

    Fourth, at the end of that year, I'll tell you how to budget your IT operations.

    1. Re:Can't give you the entire budget by TurdTapper · · Score: 1

      I'll do it for 1 Million!

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    2. Re:Can't give you the entire budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HALF A MILLION!

    3. Re:Can't give you the entire budget by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1

      I should remind the submitter that you get what you pay for.... :)

    4. Re:Can't give you the entire budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fifth, Profit!

    5. Re:Can't give you the entire budget by robertjw · · Score: 1

      I should remind the submitter that you get what you pay for.... :)

      You're right. I'll do it for $40 Million.

    6. Re:Can't give you the entire budget by JustOK · · Score: 1

      For $65 million, I'll ensure you get the contract for $40 Million.

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    7. Re:Can't give you the entire budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fifth, profit?

  3. 1% of your gross business... by Captain+BooBoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    is what you should shoot for if you listen to idiots like Mr. Mott. HP is in for a world of hurt. They already cut 14500 jobs. If you are making money and employees are happy and you spend 50% of your gross on IT who gives a crap?

    1. Re:1% of your gross business... by NewWorldDan · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Budgeting IT in terms of per employee or as a percentage of revenue is idiotic. Identify your needs, wants and objectives. Prioritize. Also plan for the future, think big. In any event, after you work up a budget, you'll show it to your boss who'll say that it's too much and you need to cut it. Then, you'll protest, price out a more modest server and backup solution, arguer with the boss some more and finally get an approval. Contrast this with a government job where you're told up front how much is in the budget, then it's your job to spend that - to the penny.

    2. Re:1% of your gross business... by maverick97008 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Each line item needs to justify itself with some form of ROI. A $2 million application could be a screaming bargain, while a $4k server could be a ripoff.

  4. Seek assistance by XorNand · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wow... this is a whole can of worms. You're not going to get an appropriate answer on semi-anonymous web forum. I operate my own technology consulting firm who specializes (coincidently enough) in professional service firms such as yours. I earn my living, in part, by answering these types of questions.

    I'll need to know the current technological state of your company. How close to capacity is your IT dept running, both in manpower and equipment/services? What are your company's growth expecations over the next two years? 5-10 years? In what role does your company see the IT department, cost center or profit center? In the case of the former, how might we turn that around? How does your utilization of technology come to others in your industry? Etc, etc...

    Take the sound bites that you're going to get here with a grain of salt. You're going to need answers that are specific to your business itself. I know it's probably not what you want to hear, but you really should call in some outside help so you can learn how to do it right. Patching together piecemeal advice might cost you your job in the end.

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    1. Re:Seek assistance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      > Take the sound bites that you're going to get here with a grain of salt.

      We can provide salt that has "five nines" availability with N+1 redundant grains. We have been a Sodium Chloride E-Solution provider and integrator since 1996. We also provide consulting to smooth your transition from obsolete grains using our trademarked "iDesalinization" method. Call us today!

    2. Re:Seek assistance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's this "IT Department" stuff? It's a 20 person architectural firm, why would they have (or need) an IT department?

      I think a big part of the question is, do they need a regular consultant/firm to monitor their systems, or do they have somebody set them up and then go away, and let one of their architects keep an eye on the thing most of the time? If they actually hire an IT guy, can he earn his keep in some way, because it's not a full-time job?

      And you're right. You can't answer any of these questions without knowing a lot more about the company and how they work. Any other metric is going to be similar to BMI for weight (try asking about that around here), statistically interesting, somewhat indicative for "normal" people, but not good enough if you really care.

    3. Re:Seek assistance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny thing. In ten years of working in IT, I've never been able to get a straight answer -- not even an estimate -- of expected growth over the next year, much less 2 or five years out.

    4. Re:Seek assistance by lakeland · · Score: 1

      You must work in a strange field. I hear estimates of growth all the time. The connection between thise estimates and reality has always eluded me.

    5. Re:Seek assistance by XorNand · · Score: 1

      My job isn't to tell my clients how to run their businesses. They relate to me their growth expectations and I help them plan their IT strategy around those goals. It would be a bit presumptuous for me to tell them that they're wrong, even if I somehow understood their business as well as they do. Which isn't likely to happen since I'm an IT specialist.

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    6. Re:Seek assistance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Which isn't likely to happen since I'm an IT specialist."

      Wrong. It isn't likely because you're a twat.

    7. Re:Seek assistance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with your solution is that:
      (1) You won't know his business or its needs the way he should. That's why _only_he_ should write his budget proposal.
      (2) You will come in with knowledge of "System X", and will try to push it, even though he's merely looking for a way to properly size and justify his budget. Many consultants also serve as VARs for just this reason.
      (3) Depending on just _how_ small his employer is, your fee might be more than his entire IT budget for the year. Not to mention that spending money on your services will create a dependency -- he'll need you again this time next year.

  5. Awesome! by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 1

    I bet now you're glad you took all those Accounting classes during your studies in IT/Architecture! :)

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  6. couch cushion economics. by Kenja · · Score: 1, Funny
    My budget is what ever I find in the couch cushions in the loby of hte local hotel.

    Or is that too small a business?

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  7. Brute force by dtfinch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Make a spreadsheet of all expected/likely purchases for the next year. Give rough min and max ranges for quantity and price for each line item. Include things like new systems, servers, upgrades, replacements, software licensing, network hardware, the unexpected, etc. Try to keep IT wages and contract work seperate from hardware/licensing costs. Then use the spreadsheet totals to figure out a good range of expected costs for the year.

    1. Re:Brute force by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Conclusion of the day: noone can spell "SEPARATE" anymore....

      Pityful.

    2. Re:Brute force by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can take a small short-cut here if you have your accounting records from last year. Hopefully someone has been categorizing all of the purchases that the company makes under Computer or Software or something and then also add in any contractors or wages that have been paid for IT. That should roughly be last year's amount of money spent on IT. Figure out if you are growing or shrinking or staying the same and try to figure in that percentage into your budget for next year. Keep each year's numbers so you can compare them to each other. Obviously any large changes will be hard to foresee... And no, I still never bothered to come up with an IT budget for our 120+ employee company...

    3. Re:Brute force by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 1

      In my sad experience, offering a range means that you get the minimum.

      So you can pad the budget.

      I recommend getting the bosses really drunk before presenting the budget to them and getting them to sign off on it.

    4. Re:Brute force by Dot.Com.CEO · · Score: 1

      The word is pitiful, not "pityful".

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    5. Re:Brute force by dtfinch · · Score: 1

      In my sad experience, offering a range means that you get the minimum.

      You get to decide how much is the minimum though.

  8. Rules of Thumb Usually Don't Work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    > I have seen examples of 'per employee' methods and 'percentage of revenue'
    > methods, but the dollars and percentages vary widely

    What do they want? Ideally, you ask them what applications and services they want, the expected availability and lifetime of those apps and services, and then give them a conservative rough order of magnitude in dollars/quid/whatever + time (if appropriate). They will come back saying "thanks" or "too expensive, try again." Ask them what services they can get rid of or reduce in expected quality, and try again. Rinse, lather, repeat.

    1. Re:Rules of Thumb Usually Don't Work by lilmouse · · Score: 1

      Better yet, take the conservative estimate, double it, add 20% and then tell them that!

      It'll always cost you more then you expect.

      --LWM

  9. Open Excel and let the fun begin! by lukateake · · Score: 1
    Dollars to outfit the staff to do the fundamental tasks that there position requires. (READ: a networked-computer and software.) Beyond that, you're in the project-based arena to justify costs. Corporate Finance

    Hardly exhaustive, but that link should get you started.

    1. Re:Open Excel and let the fun begin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you can use OpenOffice and have just as much fun and a lower budget!

  10. Chicken Blood budget by bobcat7677 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Whatever you do, don't forget to budget for ample supplies of chicken blood and other black magic staples. You know you will need it when the boss asks for those apps and hardware that magically do things that aren't possible in the natural realm.

    1. Re:Chicken Blood budget by TykeClone · · Score: 1

      Dude - everyone knows that you need fresh chicken blood to get maximum effect!

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    2. Re:Chicken Blood budget by Locutus · · Score: 1

      Whatever you do, don't forget to budget for ample supplies of chicken blood and other black magic staples. You know you will need it when the boss asks for those apps and hardware that magically do things that aren't possible in the natural realm.

      You mean the ones which Microsoft says will be out 'real soon now' or 'in the next major release of Windows'?

      You'll also need some penguin blood with that black magic if you think you're going to use OSS and/or GNU/Linux without knowing anything but Windows. Well, you could probably get away with Firefox/Mozilla and OpenOffice but that's about it. IMO.

      LoB

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    3. Re:Chicken Blood budget by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1
      You'll also need some penguin blood with that black magic if you think you're going to use OSS and/or GNU/Linux without knowing anything but Windows.

      This is just FUD that Microsoft trots out whenever they want the TCO numbers to come out favoring Windows! Everyone knows that penguin blood is much more expensive than chicken blood. Of course, what they won't tell you is that chicken blood works just fine for Linux servers, too. Don't believe me? Try it.

      Of course, Linux admins still cost more than Windows admins, but that's because you only have to pay the monkeys in bananas...

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    4. Re:Chicken Blood budget by hobbesx · · Score: 1
      You know you will need it when the boss asks for those apps and hardware that magically do things that aren't possible in the natural realm.


      Is that all it takes? I code PHP as a part of my position, and here's a request I recently got:

      We need a competing software package that reads images from custom medical hardware in multiple remote locations, anylizes the images and performs various virtual treatments to a body part and then calculates the expected result and displays accurate statistics for the body part. It should be accessible from multiple clients and provide integration with existing billing and patient managment software. You'll need to do this:

      • In two months
      • Without specific knowledge of the medical procedures
      • Without any medical references, or access to doctors familiar with them
      • In PHP
      • By yourself
      • Without specifications or actuall access to the hardware
      • for $12 and hour
      • While performing your existing full time position

      Oh, and we've already informed the owner of the company that you can do it. But it sells for $26,000! Think of all the money the company will make!
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    5. Re:Chicken Blood budget by bobcat7677 · · Score: 1

      Wow, I would be surprised if that could be done in two years. And you better have a whole team being paid alot more then $12/hr and devoting all their time to it plus a panel of medical experts and medical case data to work with. Oh, and written all in .php is what pushes it over the edge totally into the super-natural.

      I would laugh at them, stop for a moment and stare at them, then laugh at them even harder.

      Later on you might consider devoting your life to actually building it (in whatever environment you choose) and then selling it for at least $900,000/license 20 years from now when you are crazy but have finally finished your masterpiece. Something that suggests treatment and gives statistical treatment option analysis would be worth some serious bank...alot more then $26,000 a pop.

    6. Re:Chicken Blood budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a toughy alright. Even if you had the 14 gal chicken blood, 4000 IBM cards, VT-100 with a Dvorak layout and (human, female) virgin, I doubt you could even drink the amount of Jolt required in the time you have. You are probably better to cast a Majour Shield of BOFH. That just requires 3 pints of beer, a 3" paintbrush, a large curry, and 8 pints of manager's blood.

  11. Find the right balance by phpm0nkey · · Score: 1

    Personally, I think a "per employee" method makes more sense than a "percentage of revenue" method. Ask yourself what technology each user needs in order to do their jobs. If you put everyone on old, crappy hardware, it'll cost you in terms of productivity, maintenance and replacement. OTOH, giving everyone flat-panel monitors will probably cost you more in hardware than you will gain in productivity. Find the balance.

    Also, be sure you're considering the total cost of ownership when you turn in your budget. Workstation support, maintenance, repair, network installation and maintenance, connectivity costs, consumables (toner & ink, etc.).

    1. Re:Find the right balance by hypnagogue · · Score: 3, Insightful
      giving everyone flat-panel monitors will probably cost you more in hardware than you will gain in productivity.
      But you'll save more in power consumption. Comparing two typical 17" inch monitors, flat panel vs. CRT, shows that the CRT burns 3 times as much power. That extra 50 watts over the course of a year adds up to $33 -- which is already more than the difference in price. Figure in HVAC capacity to cool the extra 50 watts of heat output, and the savings is about $100/year. A switch to flat panels will pay for itself in just 2 years based on power consumption alone.

      There is a point to this (honest): IT often has to play in cost-benefit analysis against other corporate budgets, including facilities.
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    2. Re:Find the right balance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But per-employee truly can only ever cover recognized support costs... The unknown, as well as the business goals* of a company tend to scale better against pct of revenue.

      Think of it this way, as a smaller ($1 million) business, you're just trying to survive. To do that, you need to spend 10% on tech just to get computers, a network, antivirus software, etc == $100,000

      Then, you make it big! You're a $50 million business, with the same number of employees. Does it still cost you $100,000? No! Because now, in addition to the basics, you need all kinds of database, logging, and reporting software to appease any investors, not to mention helping your finance guy (now totally overwhelmed) super-automate his/her workflow to account for a lack of staffing increase. Finally, you're getting noticed in the industry, so you need a better website, better customer service, etc to et the job done. All that costs! Now, does it, and should it cost $5 million? Maybe not just to compensate for growing PAINS, but if you want to run from $50 to $100 million, you're also going to need new* business capabilities (and highly efficient old ones) to get there. And that does* cost a bundle.

      But, it's a hell of a fight.

      DEFINITELY budget on what you need, but I suggest the following:

      1) Do a 'rough cut' of all the things you think you need for each of the next 3 years.

      2) Double this year, triple next year, and quadruple the year after that.

      3) REVISE! You missed a bunch of stuff. Then, of course, scale your 3 year outlook appropriately.

      4) Divide spending between support and projects, and between ongoing costs and one time spending. Over those three years, you should notice a drop in ongoing and support costs, which makes more room each year to work on "one time projects" - but be careful! Each new project requires its own support, as well. Factor that in, and try to make a somewhat respectable third year balance (less than 50% on support, preferably around 30% or less).

      5) After all this, compare your number to the standard "revenue pct" of your industry, or 5%, whichever is lower. If your budget iis around or under that comparative figure, and you're not a complete dunce, it should now be reasonable to sell this to management, because no matter how many outsiders, consultants, etc they hire to squeeze you down, your figures should be given pretty nice reviews.

      I also like to use the menu approach, making sure to lock things together that need to be together (set menus, I guess). Give your three tastiest-looking menus to the executive team every few months, and let them pick the one that appeals the most. Of course, make sure that you can get all the things you need to get done from the least appealing menu. ;)

      In the end, all anyone's going to care about is that you LOOK like you know what you're doing, and that the numbers don't bite their collective asses in one-time expenditures/non-depreciable costs.

      And, like all IT guys everywhere, take a mini-MBA or thorough small business accounting course. Once you are "the man" of IT, it's about half your job just keeping up with crappy paperwork like budgets. ;)

    3. Re:Find the right balance by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

      I made the same point to my boss at my old job about the power savings of LCDs. The response? "We don't pay for our power, the landlord does, so we might as well buy the cheaper CRTs even if they are less efficient"

    4. Re:Find the right balance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Figure in HVAC capacity to cool the extra 50 watts of heat output, and the savings is about $100/year.

      I live in Anchorage you insensitive clod!

    5. Re:Find the right balance by Locutus · · Score: 1

      Good point since he did say architecture firm didn't he. IMO, architects are right behind lawyers and doctors in the "I am god" complex list. So whatever you calculate your support costs to be, quadruple the man hours estimate and double the hardware estimate.

      LoB

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    6. Re:Find the right balance by MooseTick · · Score: 1

      Where I live we pay about 7 cents per KWH. For a 9 hour day that 50 watts will cost about 3.5 cents. That turns into about $8/year. Perhaps if people left their PCs on 24/7 then you could have your $33 savings. Still, I regularly see 17" CRT monitors for $99 while flat panels are at least $300. Either would be long dead before you would see any cost savings.

    7. Re:Find the right balance by crabpeople · · Score: 1

      Actually where i work we have about 200-300 users and they all have flat pannels. why?

      - saves desk space
      - better on the eyes
      - 17inch LCD's are around $250 CAD

      see that last one is what makes everyone happy. especially accounting. who wants a big honking dinosaur, when you can have a sleek sexy flatter on the desk.
      Plus it looks really cool when you have executives from other companies come in to visit. executives are often moved by the little things.

      In a world where a decent office machine is about 400 dollars, theres alot of room to move when people think you cant get an office PC for under a grand.

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    8. Re:Find the right balance by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

      Actually you should leave your PC on 24/7. This avoids damage related to constantly heating and cooling the device (hard drives in particular are subject to this problem). Of course, when it does fail one day it will be catastrophic; but you should have a good disaster recovery plan for that...

      On the other hand you should turn off your monitor (whether it is an LCD or a CRT) when you are done for the day; this extends the monitor's life because things that produce light have a tendency to burn out after X amount of use (a good example is the light bulb - which always burns out 10% sooner than anticipated).

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    9. Re:Find the right balance by fireboy1919 · · Score: 1

      I would argue the point that it's better on the eyes. LCD monitors have a smaller range of possible output colors. Also, maybe you get no flicker, but modern monitors can easily do refresh rates so high that humans can't detect the flicker.

      17" LCDs are $250, but 21" flat-screen Trinitron tube CRTs can be gotten for around $100.

      I would VERY, VERY much prefer the big honkin' dinosaur with more screen real estate, more vibrant colors and a lower cost. The only disadvantage is it's size and power consumption, but for the benefits, I think it's worth it.

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    10. Re:Find the right balance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The part of this that may have escaped at least a large portion of the LCD crazed populace out there is that the OP did indicate that this was an architectural operation. That said, all those nice snazzy 17" flat panel monitors everyone's pushing are more likely than not going to be replacing nice BIG 21"+ monitors. The trade off isn't pretty. CAD is one of the first places you're likely to see big honkin' monitors and swapping to a smaller, albeit sexier flat panel is not nearly as cost effective as might be thought. A larger (19"+) LCD is still pricey, and takes considerably longer for ROI. Couple that with the possibility of several of those setups being dual head beasts and you've made the problem even worse. Stepping down 1 size when switching from CRT to LCD isn't a big issue. Dropping more than that starts to become one unless you're willing to spend the bucks to go to high end units, which is most likely what you're replacing in this case.

    11. Re:Find the right balance by LurkerXXX · · Score: 1
      Less vibrant colors don't hurt your eyes. Flicker can.

      Besides, 99% of office users use apps like web/Office/email, not Photoshop. So the slightly less accurate colors won't matter a whit to them.

    12. Re:Find the right balance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course you pay for the power. Landlords push expenses like that through to the tenents. I suggest finding another job quickly if your boss doesn't understand a simple concept as that.

    13. Re:Find the right balance by dhasenan · · Score: 1

      I'm from upstate New York. Guess which has colder winters.

    14. Re:Find the right balance by Alworx · · Score: 1

      Put them in the front row. Architecture is art. They are working to the benefit of our existence, our future, our culture.

      We should pause in front of their desks and give thanks

      LOL :-)

      Alex.

    15. Re:Find the right balance by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

      Well, the company DID go out of business, so I guess you were right!

  12. Useful info by itwerx · · Score: 1

    This isn't an answer but once you have some numbers to work with it may be helpful to know that Gartner group studies show average IT outlay to be around $2000 per employee per year.
          Granted, this does include everything from the electricity cost to paying the janitor to dust the monitor once a week but the fact remains that the bulk of that $2k is still hardware/software/admin costs. (I think $1700? Anybody have a link?)

  13. Budget? What Budget? by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At my company (14 employees-ish) the budgest for IT is just "Find out what we need, buy it, and give us the reciepts". Seriously. Our IT guy just does what he has to, and justifies it when asked about it. If he can't justify it, he either gets limits on what he can spend next month, or it gets returned for something cheaper. With small companies with extremely variable budgets (months our company actually get PAID result in much higher IT purchases), it's best to take it one month at a time, and document reasons for EVERYTHING!

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    1. Re:Budget? What Budget? by varmittang · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Same here for me. 10 people, 3 are remote users, so when it comes to a budget, it basically don't go nuts. I basically have this company in maintaince mode after spending about $20,000 over a period of 8 months. All were for projects that made their computers systems better, quicker and more redundant without goving over board on each one. Now I only have to spend money when something happens, I can just go out and buy it and replace whatever broke, and this is how it will be for many years. The question he should be asking himself is, do I know anything that can make my companies computer systems better. How much will I need to pay for them and are they reasonably priced. You basically need to find out what you want to do and about how much it costs, and add some more in for when things break. But like the guy above, I don't have a budget, but I don't go nuts buying and implementing everything I hear.

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    2. Re:Budget? What Budget? by GlassHeart · · Score: 1
      There are foreseeable needs, and there are unforeseeable needs. A good organization should be able to accurately predict what costs it will incur in the next few months or years, and be flexible enough to respond to unforeseen expenses.

      Not knowing where the money will come from shouldn't stop one from knowing ahead of time what will be needed and budgeting for it. If cash is a big variable, then your budget has to be more flexible and perhaps conservative. I don't understand how your management can tell how much the business costs to run if it just gets receipts to reimburse. Do you hire employees that way as well? If not, what makes IT expenses so special?

    3. Re:Budget? What Budget? by n4t3 · · Score: 1

      I'm in the same boat. Believe it or not we're up to almost 100 employees and there's still no budget! (Perhaps 45 machines now?). I work very closely with the owners to plan expansion and upgrade, and what we all decide is needed to keep ahead - we get. I've got a few spreadsheets I keep track of hardware in and every year I upgrade one department or another. One key for me was getting a networking firm we could count on for advice and wiring work, this way I can concentrate on the bigger issues (database and integration) and not be up in the cielings during upgrades.

    4. Re:Budget? What Budget? by cmdrwhitewolf · · Score: 1

      Exactly. My current company started out with 4 pc's and now we're up to over a hundred, where I've been the only IT guy for the past 10+ years. I've always went to the owner and explained why we needed something then armed with the full knowledge of why we needed it and what consequences were if we didn't get it the owner made the decision of whether we couldn't afford something and I got a check to pay for it where applicable. Rigid budgeting just wasn't doable. The companies needs sometimes changed on a daily basis - One day we'd be building out a new BBS for our clients, then maybe the next we'd need a couple of 50 PPM printers. We needed to stay flexible for the most part.

      The only place a 'budget' could even be applied (at all) is if we decided to go with regularly scheduled expenses somewhere, such as yearly software maintenance & upgrades or planned pc replacement/rollovers. But those are very specific cases, and are handled as they come up for the most part, and not on a 'we have exactly X dollars in which we can spend this month on toner, et all'. Because we simply couldn't afford to say, suddenly stop printing up all our customer invoices when the toner ran out when there was no more money left in the "budget" for buying more.

      So the closest we ever come to a 'budget' is our estimating what s/w & h/w expenses we expect will be coming up within a given time period, and then we analyse the benefits of buying each of those on the maintenance schedule or outright off the shelf when needed. Otherwise everything is operated on a 'as needed' basis.

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    5. Re:Budget? What Budget? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A budget should be only a planning tool. Even when you work somewhere that has budgets, you don't want to stop printing customer invoices until next month because "we have used up our toner budget for this month."

  14. Start by showing some numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Item one: ask your employer how much they are willing to spend. Global figure and of any specific time scale (Months/years?) ON PAPER.

    Item two: make a inventory analysis of what your firm has already available.

    Item three: Make a careful estimates of what CURRENTLY is lacking from item 2

    Item Three: Make sure you have enough man power to back it all up. Both for implementation and later day to day support.

    Item four: Once its all done get a beer. Or a light white wine but in a big glass. Make sure the boss pays for it too.

    Fornextone

  15. My normal method by taustin · · Score: 1

    My normal budget report method is one of the following:

    Method #1: "Give me $xxx by this date, or our cash registers will go offline until you do."

    Method #2: "Give me $yyy by this date, or I'll cry like a little sissy girl until you do."

    Unfortunately, I've never had the opportunity to use Method #3: "Give me $x,xxx,xxx or you won't be able to download any more porn."

    Though I know someone who has.

  16. Are you the guy they hired to do CAD? by RealAlaskan · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Let me see: ``I am the Information Manager of a small (20 person) architecture firm ...''. So that's 17 draftsmen and architects, a receptionist, an office manager, and you? Or are you the most CAD-capable of the draftsmen?

    That's an important question, because if they've actually hired you to be ``Information Manager'', they're going to have entirely different expectations than if they've hired you to be a draftsman and dumped this extra responsibility on you.

    If you're a draftsman with an extra burden, I recommend that you look for the thing(s) which will let you solve a few small problems, give you no new problems, and not waste any of your time on adminstration. Find the price tag, and you have your budget. If the number is too small, new machines all around (or, just for the partners and their favorites, and let their old machines trickle down). You can't afford to neglect the one part of your job they understand (the drafting), so don't let yourself get trapped in system administration!

    If you were hired to be a full time IT manager, why are you asking us for advice? Figure out what they need, tell them what it costs and how it will save costs and increase revenues. You do know how to do that, right?

    1. Re:Are you the guy they hired to do CAD? by Locutus · · Score: 1

      hey, maybe the guy showed them how to use a spreadsheet and plugged in a printer so now he is now the Windows expert. Because he could click on a few buttons, he's now getting loaded with things he's totally unqualified to do but he doesn't want to let them know he's clueless. I've seen this happen over and over again.

      next thing you know, he's asking /. about getting an MCSE cert the quickest and cheapest way so that he can embed Microsofts crappy software further into the system and balloon his IT budget.

      or not.

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  17. Information Manager?!? by PopCulture · · Score: 1

    so what exactly is it that you... do?

    Seriously, surely there are better resources (IT trade and industry mags, etc), than here? Its not like this is uncharted territory!

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  18. Return on investment by gronofer · · Score: 1
    You can approach this the same way as you would any other business investment. What return do you get if you spend $xxxx per year, vs $xxxxx per year? Given the short lifespans of typical business technology, it had better pay its way quickly.

    There's no way you can set an arbitrary percentage of turnover or employee numbers and expect to get anything more than an arbitrary conclusion.

  19. Typically 1.0% to 2.5% of total budget... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... for your typical small professional services company if it is NOT an I.T. services company. You mentioned an architectural firm, so I'd estimate a bit high since you'll be having some unusual printer and scanner costs involved, such as huge mega-format inkjet plotters and big-ass flatbed scanners that will break a lot. You'll also have some steep software maintenance and upgrade costs since commercial drawing packages that engineering and architecture firms use are rather pricey these days. Your desktop machines will be higher-end hardware with large multiple monitors too. You might even wish to estimate as high as 3 to 3.5% of gross budget for IT-related stuff, especially if you also factor in the telecommunications stuff into I.T.

  20. You already answered your own question by Fujisawa+Sensei · · Score: 1

    Screw the methodologies, per capita expendature, that's generated after the fact.

    You said you already have an idea of what you must spend. Create an itemized list into a spreadsheet. This is the mininum operational cost, keep this list secret. Then take an itemized list of what you want to spend, put that into another spreadsheet. Your realistic budget will probably be somewhere between the two.

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  21. Keep it real by shane2uunet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I too work for a small company that does not pull a lot of profits. The cash flow is very seasonal and the budget is kind of mystical.

    What we do is just sit down and assess who needs new computers that year. How much you spent last year on incidentals (CD's, cables, RAM, etc).

    A rough guess is to add 20% to what you have down on paper. Of course you can only make an accurate budget knowing your past spending habits and what things are on the horizon.

    One thing of note. I worked for a big hospital a few years ago, they had a multimillion dollar budget that grew every year. The mentality was that you had to use it or lose it, so the budget always grew. Some guys (including myself) offered some F/OSS solutions that would have save many thousands of dollars. We were soundly rejected. When I worked at Discover Card, they gave incentives to those that could save money, not tell them to take a hike.

    Anyway, for a small business like mine, just make a list, look back at your previous purchase orders and see what history tells you.

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  22. Value by shawkin · · Score: 1

    Ask all 20 people the following four questions:
    What is the value of the projects that flow through your computer system?
    What is the cost of replacing all of your data, while on deadline for a project?
    What could a total system failure cost the company, if it happened at the worst possible moment?
    Based on your answers to the first three questions, would you mind if we spend 4% of the potential losses on a reliable computer system?

  23. I'm in the same type of position and industry... by Camarones · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hate to say it, but a lot of your spending will depend on your clients. If your clients run Autodesk CAD software, then so should you, and that will make a huge dent in your bottom line. Our clients stagnated on AutoCAD 2000 for years, then just this month decided (and these are fortune-500 retailers, mind you) "oh, lets upgrade to AutoCAD 2006, so should YOU"...

    I'm the sole IT person in a 50-person architecture/construction management firm. Our spending varies year-to-year but there are a certain amount of annual expenditures. Things like antivirus software (both at the server and desktop level, CAD upgrades (we stagger our and are getting onto Autodesk subscription... it hurts in the beginning but pays off after a couple of years).

    I do my best to save on the software side and apply the savings to better hardware. By this I don't mean go out and pirate what you can't afford, I mean look for OSS alternatives to things you may think are a must-buy. I run sendmail with Mailscanner/spamassassin on FreeBSD and linux, instead of Exchange. I run supplemental Samba servers on quality HP servers. I do run a windows domain, because its just easier for me to manage than a Samba-based domain. Believe or not, MS stuff just works in my organization. Our industry-specific accounting software is windows-only also, so we're kind of stuck there.

    Like someone before said, you need to take into account your corporate growth goals and decide if you want to invest in a lot of good hardware that should last a long time, or buy cheap initially and replace things when needed.

  24. Work out what your business does first by AccUser · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You need to understand what your business does firts... what applications does it use, what sort of workflows, types of documents produced, versioning requirements, etc. and then look at the system you have and see where the holes are.

    I have done this for myself (started back in 01/2003) and also for clients (as a side) and to be honest, for a small business like you talk about, there is not really an IT budget. The point is to spend only exactly what you need to do the job, and if additional benefits can be realised for no extra cash, then that is a bonus.

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  25. Dont Forget by polyp2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you are going to be purchasing any proprietary lock-in software. To budget in for the enevitable operating system upgrades and office upgrades. Then of course there are the AV software subscriptions and so forth.

    Do careful planning and always have a back-up plan. What happens if the vendor you bought software product X from goes bust - what happens to your support?

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    1. Re:Dont Forget by pete6677 · · Score: 1

      How this is a troll, I have no idea. It is always important to budget for software support and the inevitable upgrades, whether proprietary or open source software. In business, there is no such thing as free software, since a paid employee must install and support it.

  26. Business Strategy by dlefavor · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What's the business strategy of the firm and how can technology best support it?

    Don't stop with PC's and applications. Include phones, Internet access, printers, faxes, document repositories, paper, toner, CD's, you name it. If the business strategy is best supported by quill pens and parchment paper, though, don't be afraid to go low-tech.

    The partners probably have an idea of how much they want to spend on you, your team, and what you and your team do. Find out.

    Do not trifle with that step. If they think they can afford $30,000 a year on technology and you present a $300,000 budget, the next sound you hear will be the axe falling.

    Never forget that your firm is in the business of architecting things. Having cool computers with the latest applications that do not contribute directly and measurably to the architecting of things is deadly.

    1. Re:Business Strategy by Locutus · · Score: 1

      He also needs to factor in specialty tools based on if the company is high end or low/middle end architecture. If high end, a stereo lith machine or 3D scanner might be in the budget. Wow'ing high end clients with high end models can help justify the high end bills they'll get. If middle/low end, color laserjet, inkjets, or scanners might be all you get outside the standard desktop and server systems.

      LoB

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    2. Re:Business Strategy by x8 · · Score: 1
      Include phones...paper, toner, CD's, you name it.

      Wouldn't the costs of consumable items like paper and toner be better allocated to their respective departments? Those departments likely will be more attentive to how much they are spending/printing when the money comes out of their own budget. Plus it saves IT from a situation like, "How many full color large format blueprints will the architects be printing this year?" and then being responsible for that cost.
    3. Re:Business Strategy by dlefavor · · Score: 1
      Wouldn't the costs of consumable items like paper and toner be better allocated to their respective departments?

      I can't argue with this. My experience, though, is that the more purchasing centralization you can do in a small firm, the better for the firm, even if that complicates matters for the poor guy who has to buy the consumables.

      Look at it this way: the buyer will accumulate a lifetime supply of caps and t-shirts.

      You do make a good point, though, since some sort of budget paper-money chargeback for the using departments is useful to incent conservation.

  27. It's up to the boss... by rhu · · Score: 1

    You: Boss, what do you want to do next year? Boss: Blah, blah You: Ok, here's what that will cost. _OR_ You: How much do you want to spend next year? Boss: $$$$ You: Ok, here's what you can get for that much. Be sure to add 15% for contingencies; if the boss ever makes software/hardware decisions, add another 100%.

    1. Re:It's up to the boss... by emaneman · · Score: 0

      You: Boss, what do you want to do next year? Boss: Blah, blah You: Ok, here's what that will cost. _OR_ You: How much do you want to spend next year? Boss: $$$$ You: Ok, here's what you can get for that much. Be sure to add 15% for contingencies; if the boss ever makes software/hardware decisions, add another 100%.

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  28. Keep It Simple? by TheFlyingGoat · · Score: 1

    It sounds like you're getting ready to go overboard with it. In a company that size, what you really need to do is make a big list:

    1. Write down the sum of your IT department salaries.
    2. Write down all of the hardware upgrades/purchases you expect to have in the next year.
    3. Write down all the software purchases and licenses you expect to get in the next year.
    4. Write down all the service contracts you currently pay for.
    5. Write down all of the fun stuff you'd like to purchase in the next year (VOIP, LCD monitors, etc).
    6. Organize this list and make it look nice.
    7. Add 10% for consulting fees.
    8. Add 25% for unknown expenses.

    That's it. In a company with 20 people, I doubt they're looking for in-depth breakdowns per employee, department, etc. Just make it easy to understand and make sure you have a decent margin of error for the unexpected.

    FYI, I've helped on a budget for a company of 200 people and it was about as simple as the list above, but management was still satisfied with it.

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    1. Re:Keep It Simple? by mdecarle · · Score: 1

      The Flying Goat summarizes it good!

      Each employee (excluding the IT) needs a PC, which costs a certain amount. Divide this amount by the time it is written off, and be sure to have this added to your budget if the company hires. Mind, it may also be deducted. IT will generally have better and more PC, but add these separately to the servers budget.

      Assure you get to keep proceeds of sales, and be sure you get to keep old hardware if you need it. (A 4 year old PC -maybe with extra memory- can still do a lot of server work, while users don't want them anymore!) Sell older equipment to your colleagues, or any other interested party.

      Ah, and make an inventory of often-needed replacement items, such as keyboards, mice and a couple of screens (preferably the same as the users already have).

      Don't forget infrastructure: room, cabling, airco, furniture, ... see if that should go in the budget as well.

      And see if you can "save budget for next year". It may happen that you are planning to replace a large number of PCs, or servers, next year, but it wouldn't normally fit in your budget. Then, maybe you can save some budget this year and use it next year. This is interesting too. We now have this problem (government): the budget must be used this year, we can't save for next year. So, we shift our spending instead of the money, which complicates planning.

  29. Don't forget support contracts by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

    Those are pretty expensive for CAD programs. Also fit in OSS where it makes sense.
    Linux for servers, Firebird for browsers, Thunderbird for email, Open Office maybe.
    The only thing about Open Office is it does not exchange complex spreadsheets and or PowerPoint files well yet.
    I have yet to see an open source cad system that is as useful as Autocad, Solidworks, or PRO/E.
    I would stick with Closed Source accounting unless you really like accounting software or you can find a vendor of open source accounting software that offers support, it is nasty stuff to support yourself.

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  30. Best method by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First, ignore all the per-capita methods. They won't work.

    Now, take your lists of what you need to spend and what you want to spend. Lay out the items, give each one a priority ranging from "must have" to "would be nice". Provide a justification for each one and for the priority you gave it. Give all justifications, not just the best one, with examples from reality (eg. the justification for the anti-virus software might make reference to actual virus infestations in the company in the previous year and how much they cost in money, time and resources). Be sure to account for recurring costs in future years (eg. the service contracts on equipment, anti-virus update services, etc.).

    Once you've got your list, sit down with the Finance guys and figure out how far down the list the business can afford to go.

    Realistic budgets aren't based on per-capita expenditures or percentages of revenues or profits, they're based on what the business actually needs to spend to stay in business.

  31. Simulate your costs using probability models by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have a few choices as to which package that you use - most likely either SAS, S-Plus, or Excel with a monte-carlo add-in - but whichever you choose the method is the same. Assign a mean value for each input along with a probability curve that best represents the distribution of that function. The simulation will be able to compute the range of possible costs based on your model and give you sensitivities for inputs. (You can't solve probability models that have products and quotients analytically, so monte-carlo simulation is the best method.)

  32. Well It Depends by pinkythecat · · Score: 1

    Do you want to:
    -scale efficient networks
    -revolutionize cutting-edge markets
    -streamline intuitive supply-chains
    -cultivate seamless initiatives
    -transform extensible relationships or just make sure the network and file servers function?

  33. Ask the controller for the standard by magarity · · Score: 2, Insightful

    First, ask the controller or CFO what the company uses for a standard method, such as internal rate of return or payback period. You don't want to walk into a presentation with numbers using method X when the management thinks in terms of method Y.

    1. Re:Ask the controller for the standard by magarity · · Score: 2, Insightful

      To further clarify: view everything as a project. From maintaining an existing server to buying a new one to being help desk guy, budget them as projects. Each activity can then be individually justified and dealt with in terms of balancing with each other.

    2. Re:Ask the controller for the standard by nonuttin · · Score: 1

      And if you're in the US, ask about Sarbanes-Oxley! The security requriements that need to be put in place to meet SOX compliance can be a budget shocker. If any of your systems are supporting financial information, and the firm is expected to grow, this is a must. Plan for IT security today and it will be easier to implement when you must, tomorrow.

    3. Re:Ask the controller for the standard by magarity · · Score: 1

      It's a 20 person architecture firm; what are the odds it's publicly traded??? It's more likely two or three partners, 13-15 junior architects and a few miscellaney administrative types like the questioner. Proprietorships / small partnerships don't waste a second thinking about S-B.

  34. May I suggest... by vertinox · · Score: 1

    Buy all desktops as Mini-Macs if you are going to or have to use MS Office. It'll save you the trouble of Windows licensing, admin issues (OS X has a pretty sweet lock down features and remote admin as well) and can generally work without you have to bother futzing around with configurations.

    Unless of course you need to connect to a Novell Server or what to use Exchange (well there is always Entourage, but it's not that good), but then we have to ask why are you using both of those since most small businesses don't need 50 login licenses and an Exchange server for a handful of employees.

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    1. Re:May I suggest... by Ath · · Score: 1
      Unless of course you need to connect to a Novell Server or what to use Exchange (well there is always Entourage, but it's not that good), but then we have to ask why are you using both of those since most small businesses don't need 50 login licenses...

      First, there is no such thing as a "Novell Server" as a specific product. You can buy a Novell Netware OS, a Novell SUSE Linux variant, or Open Enterprise Server (with either a Netware kernel or a Linux kernel). Second, Novell sell per seat licenses in addition to per server licenses. The 50, 100, 250 pack days went away year ago. Third, it is no problem connecting to a Netware, SUSE Linux, or Open Enterprise Server server to server files to just about any client using CIFS.

      Novell actually sells a bundled product called (wait for it) Small Business Server that bundles all their core services including iFolder, iPrint, and eDirectory plus Groupwise and a bunch of other stuff. You can get it with a Netware backend or a Linux backend.

    2. Re:May I suggest... by vertinox · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I meant if the server reuqires a Novell Client Login. There is an OS X version by a 3rd party, but no support by Novell or Apple. If your server doesn't require a Novell Login Client (even it is an Netware backend) then OS X will have no issues with it out of the box.

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  35. Talk to the users first by vijayiyer · · Score: 1

    It is absolutely essential to find out what your users and their needs are first. If you talk to a few of them, you'll get an idea of what is necessary vs. fluff. But each persons needs will vary, and it's important not to lose sight of the fact that a computer is simply a tool to get a job done.

  36. Instant Strategy by Clansman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's a 9 point, back of an envelope plan which sums up what the big consulting firms will tell you (in less words).

    1. Review the Business Plan. What does it tell you? You expanding? You going all e-business? What? Wishes as well as reality.

    2. What about trends in the architecture world? Trends in technology? Cheap storage, cheap bandwidth etc?

    --> Try to work out what capabilities are suggested by all of this. eg - if your firm says they want to go e-billing then, hey, thats a capability. Show these to your firm and get them to rank them, score them whatever.

    3. You haven't just started up, I suppose, so how does your current IT match up? Do a big list of capabilities you have identified and assess each one against your current apps/functionality.

    4. What would a future IT system look like if it were to deliver all these capabilities? How could you leverage some of the technology trends you identified in to creating growth or profit? (invoices by pdf = save on printing and mailing etc. Recruit new staff just via the web = savings etc )

    5. Can you decribe an optimal IT applications and technology architecture yet? Would that be an open accessable database feeding billing, web portal, collaboration, etc? Web based? Accesible in the move, laptops etc?

    6. Now do a gap analysis of what you have versus what you want. Describe how you could move between those two states. Ie projects, dependencies etc - migrate this database, use a temporary TS server, then move to app x etc etc. remember culture (saving local vs contributing centrally - loss of power for the individual) - have a plan for selling culture changes too.

    7. How could you pay for this - what levels of investment would it take? How will the changes be paced - what happens this year and what next. Will there be an investment phase of a few years then a leveling out. Talk business cases here - ROI.

    8. Map the risks and critical success factors. Map your communications plan for the changes.

    9. Present. You now know exactly what you want, why you want it and in terms that the rest of your staff team will understand - they nedd the capabilities not the software itself. Easy sell really.

    We go though this every few years and it is an effective enough methodology.

  37. Mod teh parent! by RingDev · · Score: 1

    Mod parent up! That is probrably the best answer that is going to show up here.

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  38. Don't forget - talk to your accountant by greginnj · · Score: 1

    Your accountant should give you useful information about depreciation on hardware (HW can be depreciated, SW cannot). Standard is 3 years. So, one way to figure out your baseline is to split your budget into per-employee and 'datacenter' sections. In the per-employee section, figure out what the standard config is (HW and SW), and price out a new HW config for one employee. Your annual HW budget for the employee section should be 1/3 of that figure X { #of employees } plus 15% contingency. SW would be your license renewal fees, plus any planned new purchases. Don't forget to budget for new employees; check with mgmt for planned growth rate.

    Same for your data center -- plan on replacing all HW every 3 years, and your budget should be 1/3 of that. As other posters advised, your first budget is an excellent place to add in backup/redundancy HW you've been wanting.

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  39. simple calculations: by grub · · Score: 2, Funny


    (Support staff salaries) + (# of PCs hardware cost) + ($699.00 per user to SCO) = your budget.

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  40. This shows half of ITs problem. by Soko · · Score: 2, Informative

    Friend, I'll give you credit for actually asking the question. It's a smart person who admits when they don't have the info they need, and tries to find out the answer instead of winging it. But, you're going about the solution all wrong. Proper IT support is not just about numbers - there's soooo much more.

    First, you need to get a handle on what you're employer actually expects out of it's information systems. Some firms want a glorified typewriter, some want it to do most everything. Some can't stand spending a dime on a machine, others only want the latest and greatest. Guaging the culture of an organisation is paramount.

    Then there's risk. This is, IMHO, the biggest factor in actual budgeting. How much risk to the companies bottom line will any expendatures entail? How much risk is involved with doing nothing? How much risk is involved in your compeditors advancing further in IT efficiencies? You need to show that what you intend to spend will protect current operations, or there won't be a budget for anything, let alone IT. As well, if you can show that there's significant risk in not spending a certain amount, most CxO types will approve what you're asking for.

    Then you can get into the numbers, and justify your expendetures with ROI.

    OK, the problem? My experience lately has been that professionalism is sorely lacking in a lot of IT departments. I've heard people lament "They're driving the company into the ground anyway - why should I care?", or justify an over priced solution on what other departments get, while bitching about how under appreciated the IT department is. Your department is under appreciated because it isn't communicating properly with the people you serve. It's that simple.

    We techies tend to look down on business users (they are just lusers, after all), but they're the people who drive the ship. How they're driving it should not matter one whit to you effectively doing your job. Hell, maybe some information that your systems provide will turn into a cluebat and wake up a sleeping bridge. You need to think a bit like them in order to effecitvely communicate what you're trying to do and why. You need to use thier terms and jargon, even the (YECH) buzzwords. This seems to be anethemia to a significant portion of the Slashdot crowd.

    A professional, when he accepts a job, will do what's right for his customer within his area of expertise, no matter his own personal opinion on the customer or the customers direction.

    Soko

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    1. Re:This shows half of ITs problem. by huckda · · Score: 1

      A professional, when he accepts a job, will do what's right for his customer within his area of expertise, no matter his own personal opinion on the customer or the customers direction.

      Finally someone speaks the truth!
      I'm a Linux/Mac/MS/Novell supporter =)
      Ask me and they ALL have their place in almost any IT infrastructure(Novell work'n with SUSE has helped a lot in many areas no doubt, and Mac OS/X as well!)
      But MS at the desktop is still undeniably crucial for people doing more than simple word processing/e-mail and web browsing(90% of a student's activities).

      Good point mate.

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  41. Think Like the Boss by TKoruna · · Score: 1

    Percentage of revenue, cost per employee and so forth are handy metrics for comparison, but only after you've figured out what you think the budget should be.

    Consider what you'll need to spend just to 'keep the lights on' This covers things like annual support contracts for any software you own, preventive maintenance for your hardware, etc. Present this to the boss(es) with a short description of each item, what it cost you last year, what you think it'll cost you next year, and an explanation for any changes year-over-year. For a company as small as yours, I'd expect this to be a single page, at most.

    After you've dealt with that, get a little fancy. Consider presenting a "project portfolio". This is a buzzword for a particular approach to justifying IT expenses, wherein the IT department presents a list of potential and existing projects (the "portfolio") from which management can then choose where to invest funds. To do this, you should summarize those projects you have in mind that will either a) enable your employer to make more money or b) enable your employer to spend less money. A decent summary will consist of a nice little table of these, with estimated costs, estimated benefits (both in dollars, and any 'soft' benefits that aren't easily quantified), an estimated time to completion, risks related to undertaking the project, and risks the company will be exposed to if you don't undertake the project. Again, I would guess that in a smaller company, this would be a page or two of mostly text, in a nice table.

    Those will give you a good start. Once you've got those documents ready, you'll be able to have a discussion with the boss that will address business opportunities, and how IT (that is, you) can help the company with those opportunities.

  42. per year per employee by chris_mahan · · Score: 1

    $5,000 per year per employee.

    That's $2,000 for PC ($1,500 box + $500 monitor), replaced every 2 years
    $1,000 in sofware licenses (replaced every 2 years)
    $1,000 (50 hours over 2 years @$20/hr) for support and tech work (that's 2 hours per month, nothing really, includes setting up new PC every 2 years) (note $20/hr includes $13 for wages and $7 for taxes, etc)

    Extra $5,000 every 2 years for server stuff (backup, file servers, application servers, email servers, firewall, t-1 service, printers)

    Yes, that's 100,000 a year for 20 ppl. But it's really $425 per month per employee. Not that much compared to their salaries ($3,300-$6,300/mo).

    Also, the first year, you'll spend $150K getting and configuring all the stuff. You won't ahve to do much the next year, but year three and thereafter you'll have to have somebody replace user pcs.

    I did not include the IT manager's salary, because that does not depend on the number of people.

    Also, if you think more people will reduce costs, think again. More people mean more complexity, and 50 people can print more (and use up more toner) than 20 people.

    Also, don't forget to adjust up 3% annually, or in a couple of years you'll be very tight.

    If your business relies on custom software from a third-party vendor, add $5000 per year per user.

    If you have people with laptops, add $1000 per year each (they break/walk faster).

    hope this helps.

    And this does not include telco. If you're doing voip, look to double your network infra, with 100K extra up front (servers and phones @$250)

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  43. The "how to do my job" askslashdot question by hackstraw · · Score: 1

    Slashdot should not allow these posts. They are embarrassing for the rest of us.

    I'm sorry, but there is no way anyone can help here without the usual "more info" help. I don't know how much money your firm has to begin with, I don't know how much, if any need there is for an IT department.

    So, I'll give generic advice to a generic question:

    When in doubt, ask for much more than they will be willing to spend, and odds are you will get more $$$ than asking for what you really need. Basic psychology.

    1. Re:The "how to do my job" askslashdot question by pete6677 · · Score: 1

      What do you think "Ask Slashdot" is for? I'll give you a hint, it's to ask questions. So readers can post their own experiences solving a similar problem. In other words, an idea exchange. What a concept! If this bothers you, I suggest disabling this section in your preferences so you don't have to see it. If someone has no clue how to do their job and is relying on Slashdot readers to do it for them, they'll be found out soon enough and canned.

  44. You're qualfied for this job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the people with management experience in architecture firms must be groaning as they read this.

  45. Re:MOD PARENT UP, SUBMITTOR DOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you have positive karma, maybe people will actually give a shit about your moderation opinions.

  46. It's easy, but tedious... by Ulf+Joronen · · Score: 1

    First, look at what has historically been spent, not just on equipment, but also on consulting, repairs, and an estimate of the costs of unscheduled downtime. Next, look at your client's future plans. Did they just sink a major contract and need to expand, either the number of workstations/servers or the capability? Are they planning a move?

    Armed with that information, take a good hard look at your client's existing hardware and software. Is it up to the task? Probably not, or else we wouldn't be talking. Find the holes and come up with a plan to fill them. Use existing equipment to backfill these holes, as you will find the worst equipment is on the desks of the least senior people. Make sure this remains so after the upgrade, moving the senior folks' machines to the desks of the underequipped juniors, then giving the seniors the new and shiny equipment. If you do it the easy way, replacing the old with the new, you will have some bruised egos and these are the people your client listens to. Keep 'em happy.

    The result of all this is your upgrade / migration plan. Repeat the process for workstations, servers, network infrastructure, software/security, and service. Put it in writing.

    Items to note: In small business IT, Everthing in the walls and closets are the most neglected. Set these up for a bit of overkill and a clear upgrade path. Once they hit the closet again, they will be forgotten, unless something goes wrong. If your client will permit, add in monitoring to your equipment and service budget. You will know if something dies before your client will, and you look like a miracle worker.

    End result: A happy client with equipment that suits his needs. A happy techie (you) that has a continual revenue stream.

  47. Seriously? by BlightThePower · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Your firm must be big enough to have an accountant, if so, time table a long meeting with him/her/it and thrash it out with them. You might as well, it'll only end up on their desk again anyway. Come up with a range of options that meet the requirements and the account will help you put figures on things, including your assessment of the liabilities in el cheapo solutions. Personally, I've had a good success level and good experiences with turning the "gatekeepers" into collaborators that way.

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  48. look at previous years budgets/expenses by Locutus · · Score: 1

    if you're new to the company, get the previous 3 years IT expenses, including outside services, software, hardware, etc. From that, you should be able to determine the baseline for your budget. Now, figure out what you want to do to IMPROVE the department over the next 5 years, and make sure you've discussed this with other department heads since they WILL be involved.

    You're going to have a difficult time justifying someone elses budget if you just go by what "others" say and do. And for goodness sake, include some training $$ for GNU/Linux. Just being able to support one or two OSS projects will save the training costs and then some.

    LoB

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  49. Re:Keep it real - and learn what is real by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

    Honestly, when you build a house, you don't go down to Home Depot and start pricing 2x4's and door knobs - you look at existing metrics (price per square foot for homes built in the past year in your specific region) as a pretty good barometer of what it is going to cost. It doesn't really matter in the big picture that Home Depot is having a sale on bathtubs - that doesn't change the overall cost of the house.

    Metrics vary by industry, and by how agressively a company is going to grow (and use tech to grow.)

    A back of the envelope calculation, not knowing your industry (oil-field company very different than a consulting company, for example, but strangely enough their IT budget as a percentage of gross revenues will be pretty close - but banks and insurance companies will spend a lot more) would be roughly 7% of your gross revenues for all things technical. This includes copiers, fax machines, the phone infrastructure, pagers and cell phones, network, email, laptops, desktops, servers ... the works. Want just the IT (computer) budget, try closer to 5%~6%.

    I'm not saying it can't be done on less, and for a really small company with a tight budget (civil engineers are about the WORST when it comes to prying money from their cold, dead hands) and open mindedness (eBay, Craigslist, less than 100% uptime or reliability, not having legitimate licenses for all your software, not having all the toys the users want, etc.) you can get away for as low at ~3%, maybe even 2.5% (I have done it, and yes, I did all of the above) but only for so long. Cut too many corners up front and you are simply feeding a sleeping dragon that is going to wake up hungry in a few years = system maintenance, in particular number of systems each tech can support. The day you need to hire a second IT tech to support your infrastructure is the day the real cost of buying cheap crap comes back to bite you - save $100 per machine to hand build each one over the course of 3 years only to have to hire a $50k / year additional person to help you keep them all working = bad.

    I just bought a used Dell 2001fp for $250 for the home, got a great deal and I am happy with it - but that is no way to run a business. This doesn't really add to the discussion, but I really, really like my new monitor.

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  50. Keep It Real... Simple by The-Bus · · Score: 4, Informative
    I think the main idea here is to get an idea of what the goal is of the employer. Is it to try and predict profitability? Are they selling or divesting the company in any way? Do they need to allocate some bonus funds they just found? Is it for tax reasons?

    I imagine if you're in charge of administering most of the daily tasks (backup, network maintenance, upgrades), there is no labor cost. This makes it very easy for you.

    I would put something together where you talk about the existing infrastructure, and maybe some proposed changes. Rank these changes in priority from "Low" (we can live without them but they MIGHT provide efficiencies) to "Medium" (realistically these will be needed, provide a good benefit for the investment) to "Musts" (these have to be done in the next 12 months otherwise the business will not function as it does today).

    For example, "Low" might be buying larger, better displays for the office and a plasma TV for the client presentation room. "Medium" might be to buy larger, better displays for some of the drafting people, if the current ones are already a bit old or unreliable. "Musts" might be the monthly costs of internet/voice service (make sure they're not double- or triple-counting anything) or replacing a monitor that you KNOW will be gone within three months.

    Also, make an approximate tally of the current value of items in the office, as far as IT is concerned. What if a file server went down? How much is the replacement? How much would a new bells-and-whistles replacement be?

    I would probably draft up a "recommended" budget:


    Recommended Budget: Medium
    1. Replace six machines in back office. Cost $9000.
    2. Upgrade network to gigabit ethernet + wireless. Cost $1500.
    3. Acquire new scanner and printer for front office. Cost $500


    Then, above and beyond that, ESTIMATE the "Oh, crap" budget, for example:

    Assuming 6-8% of all current equipment will be destroyed/lost/not working, this will cost $6,000 - 8,000.


    Clearly spell out that the first part is "in your control" and the other part is BEYOND your control. You may find that the "in control" budget is $11,000, while the "beyond control" budget is $25,000. Or the "in control" budget is $35,000 and the "beyond control" budget is only $7,000. Approach each of these scenarios differently.

    Once this is all done, write a half-page summary on the front page. One paragraph explaining the "in control" budget and a realistic range, plus the benefits. Then a second paragraph with the "Oh, crap" stuff.

    I'm making the assumption that your employer wants to know the following:

    • What do I need to spend to keep this company running?
    • What do I need to spend to make us more competitive?
    • If I upped my IT investment by $20,000, what could I get? (all the "Low Priority" stuff)
    • Do I need this guy on my staff?


    Succesfully and accurately answering the first three questions will make the fourth one easy.
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    1. Re:Keep It Real... Simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      1. Replace six machines in back office. Cost $9000.
      2. Upgrade network to gigabit ethernet + wireless. Cost $1500.
      3. Acquire new scanner and printer for front office. Cost $500
      4. Get your network hacked. Priceless
  51. Be Project Specific by egman · · Score: 1

    As an IT Director for a small non-profit, I've always focused my budget around specific projects. Not just projects the IT department is calling for, but other departments as well. Part of the trick here is forecasting what how your users are going to push your infrastructure, or what projects may call for new software or outside consultation. This may call for breaking down some silos in your company. Also build in some emergency money in case a last minute situation arises. Build a theoretical project and determine it's budget. Also, any money that you get this year for your budget, make sure you have at least that much for your budget next year... or you'll never get it back in the future.

  52. Speaking from inexperience... by Evro · · Score: 1

    Is the company planning significant growth for the budgeted period (year, quarter, whatever)? That would be a major factor in determining a budget.

    As someone who's never done a budget (other than budgeting time) I feel safe in suggesting that whatever figure you finally come up with, tack on 10-20% extra.

    --
    rooooar
  53. "Magic" Formulas aren't the Answer by richg74 · · Score: 1
    I've done IT budgeting for a couple of decades in several different firms, ranging in size from 30 to about 5000 employees, and I think using these percentage or $/employee formulas is an excellent way to perform a surgical strike on your foot. Here's how I approach it, in broad terms:
    1. FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU SPEND MONEY FOR
      You can use a previous budget, or actual expenditure figures, plus a "wish list" of new stuff. The point is just to make sure you have a complete list of the things you're going to need to pay for. (Some of this will depend on how your firm accounts for things: for example, does the IT budget need to include imputed costs for office space. Talk to your financial guy.)
    2. ESTABLISH ESTIMATION METHODS
      For each category of expense, figure out a sensible way to estimate the cost. Some categories (e.g., salary + benefits for current employees, maintenance contracts) will be easy. Others (e.g., new development projects) will be more problematic.
    3. CALCULATE ESTIMATES FOR EACH CATEGORY
      Apply the methods you identified in step 2, and include an appropriate risk contingency -- more uncertain, difficult to forecast items get a higher contingency amount.
    4. COMMUNICATE
      The most important step. The budget should not just be thrown out as pearls before swine -- it's vital that you document, and that people understand, the estimation basis (as in Step 2) for the budget estimates. (This will defuse a lot of arguments. It may also uncover some land mines: "Gee, how much of this is for the new office we're planning" -- and forgot to tell you about.)
    Finally, especially if people in your firm aren't used to a formal budget process (which is sometimes the case in small firms), be careful of two fundamental (and very stupid!) budget fallacies:
    • Putting money into the budget does not (or, at least, should not) guarantee that it will be spent.
    • Taking money out of the budget emphatically does not guarantee that it will not be spent.
    (You may think I'm belaboring the obvious, but I assure you I have seen these two crop up many times.)
  54. I base my IT budget on the clothing budget... by _Stryker · · Score: 1

    For my home "consulting business", I get to spend as much on "IT" as my wife gets to spend on clothing.

    It seems to guarantee that my budget gets approved without much trouble.

  55. Software is the cost by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

    I worked as an admin for a small telecom company with around 50 employees. The owners of the company were very concerned about how much $ IT needed. Any spending had to be explained in detail and documented, etc;

    What I quickly realized was that buying new hardware such as pc's (with Linux preloaded to save $), small non-managed switches, UPS', even lower end servers, tape drives, etc, were the cheapest of all.

    The big budget killers were when I had to renegotiate contracts with our AV vendor and other such licensing fees.

    If you can, run as much on OSS as possible. This will save your small company money.

    --
    We play the game with the bravery of being out of range
  56. The parent is right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The parent's point is well taken.

    It boils down to this: don't forget to factor your wages into the budget. Is your time better spent working on the computers or drafting.

    My own experience is quite old but the general principles still hold. In 1990 I got some money to equip the technology department at the high school where I was teaching. As part of my research I paid a visit on a previous cow-irker.

    He was employed as an electronics technologist in an organization with about a thousand people. His time was completely consumed with looking after peoples desktop computers. He got the boss to pitch all the PCs and replace them with Apples. All the time he was spending on support vanished instantly!

    The trouble was that I could get twice as many computers and twice as much software if I went with PC clones. So, I ignored my buddy's exeprience and got PCs. The result was that I never got home in time for supper for several years.

    Don't lowball the budget expecting that you will substitute your labor in exchange for getting things cheap. Get the tools you need to reduce the amount of time you spend supporting computers. Factor your wages into the equation and I bet you will come out ahead. You will also look a lot better if you aren't always having to fix broken stuff.

  57. Simple, but not easy by GCHQAgent · · Score: 1
    Look at your existing infrastructure, hold discussions with stakeholders with the objective being to discover any areas which need improving. (e.g. perhaps the timesheet system needs a complete overhaul because staff are spending longer than they should need to to fill it out - if this is the case then seek to quantify the current cost of having the non-optimal system)

    Next, look at use of IT in the same commercial sector as yours, are there any aspects you might want to adopt? extend? do something 'similar' but 'better' i.e. innovate upon? If so, write down the work necessary.

    Finally, agree with stakeholders what you want your IT systems to achieve. Don't be vague, be specific - you need to work out 'what' you want at this stage but not 'how' you want it done.

    Armed with this information, you should have a clear direction for your IT department. You should have a list of requirements and desirables.

    Email your requirements to some IT consultancies that can implement your needs. Most reputable companies will talk to you and give you ballpark figures without you having to buy their services.

    The goal here is to get the biggest return for your investment in IT. Sometimes the cost of doing nothing will be far less than the cost of upgrading or replacing a system, in which case you hold off on modifications in that area.
    Other times, the cost of doing nothing will be more expensive the cost of implementing a change, in these instances recommend these changes.

    Finally, you should hand to your boss something that tells them the amount they ought to spend and what benefits you expect.

    PS: Don't forget, some benefits don't have direct financial benefits but may make customers more likely to use/recommend you, staff happier to work for you, etc.. Mention these benefits.

    PPS: If your company culture is technophobic then bear in mind the cost of change can be high (retraining, errors using the new systems, etc).

    Good luck :-)

  58. Here's what I do by jtosburn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hi-

    I'm the sysadmin at a ~25 person architecture firm, and an architect, too.

    What I do for budgetting is to start with an inventory of every piece of equipment we own. Then I assign an approximate lifespan to each thing, based on experience. Couple that with when each item was purchased, and replacement times and potential budgetting scenarios start to emerge. There are a couple of policies I try to wedge in there to steer purchases, such as I like to put the new machines in front of the heaviest, most demanding users, which for us is the more billable staff. I'm forunate in that I have management's backing, so that there's never any whining from project managers when an intern gets a kick ass machine, and the PM gets the hand-me-down. By keeping the machines coming in, I can keep everyone pretty happy. In addition, whenever possible, I try to upgrade our software versions either every two or three years, on everything except the Microsoft hegemony, which I only upgrade through churn of new workstations.

    Around the fairly regular annual purchases, I then stategize the big ticket items: new plotter, Autocad updates, expanding licenses of Photoshop/InDesign, implementation of a new accoutning system, or what-have-you. This helps even out the costs from year to year. None of it's rocket science; you just have to put your head into it and figure out what it would cost to maintain your company's current level of technical prowess (x machines per year, etc), and that what it would cost to further develop the skillsets (by getting new software, and doing more training).

    FWIW, we spend ~$45k per year, which works out to be ~2.5 - 3.5 % of revenue. My bosses have never gone for a straight percentage method, but it's my preference, since it automatically adjusts itself for good times and bad. Instead, I develop a budget, they either say yes to the whole thing, or specifically exclude one or more items. Then I establish the priorities and give them an idea of at what points in the year I'd like to spend money. They coordinate that with the company's cash flow, and if the year turns sour, I just get reigned in on my spending.

    Sorry if I'm rambling too much. OTOH, if you want more, post a response, and I'll give you my email address.

    Joel

    1. Re:Here's what I do by starfishsystems · · Score: 1
      I'm the sysadmin at a ~25 person architecture firm, and an architect, too.
      ...
      FWIW, we spend ~$45k per year, which works out to be ~2.5 - 3.5 % of revenue.

      That's equivalently about $2K/person/year for the complete IT infrastructure, which is another way to derive a bottom line for purposes of cost management. Both ways are useful, but for different reasons.

      If you doubled the number of employees, a rough prediction would be to double this cost as well. You'd get some economies of scale, but you might also max out some technologies (server or backup capacity, firewall or network bandwidth, performance of shared filesystems) and have to move to a more expensive tier. Anyway, the point is that even a rough idea of scale is very useful along this dimension, and it's very easy to present.

      Budgetting according to revenue is more subtle, because bits are not consumables in the same way as auto parts are to the auto industry, for example. Revenue is not directly an input to infrastructure calculation. If the company generates more revenue, it could be an opportunity to improve the infrastructure, but that depends on the state of the infrastructure relative to the expected effect of improvements on productivity, both of which are hard to quantify numerically and hard to estimate even qualitatively.

      Improving the infrastructure should have some effect on productivity, and it should help to attract and retain better employees, and it should make a better impression on clients in various ways. Those are issues which deserve debate, and of course buying new stuff is always fun. But there are no guarantees. The usual problem, in my experience, is not in getting management interested in this kind of discussion, but making sure that the bread and butter costs are not overlooked because of it.

      --
      Parity: What to do when the weekend comes.
    2. Re:Here's what I do by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 1

      This is a great response.

      General IT budgets average around ~3% of revenue. Some companies are higher and some are lower, but its a good ball park.

      ---

      I am an IT manager with a background in architecture. I have done budgets ranging from several million up to 50M.

      I previously worked in various architecture and design firms, large and small:

      Lease your equipment.

      Here is why:

      Your a 20 person firm and you may have a dual role as CAD manager/drafter/arch and IT guy. CAD programs (like autocad) do progress (albeit slowly) and you will likely want to refresh your machines on a semi regular basis ~2 or 3 years.

      Autocad runs nicely on all modern machines, as video memory has come up.

      The thing that you will want to determine is what your firm does that is above the system requirements of autocad. (eg do you do any rendering, real 3D work etc.)

      Most Architectural firms I have worked with did not do much of this, and their requirements fell into:

      - Server (storage)
      - Web Server (or hosted site)
      - FTP Server (most arch firms need to send receive struct eng drawings etc.. VSFTPD is best)
      - File Backup Server
      - Mail
      - Workstations

      All of these items can be put on a lease with a company like Dell. In this way you know you monthly required budget, and at the same time have a depreciation schedule to follow. Lease terms are cost of machine / 36. Ensure that you have the option to replace the system with a new machine for the same lease terms...

      all other items in your budget should be things like:

      Misc equipment purchases: usually budget for 1000 per quarter on a network your size.
      Consulting Fees: for the times when you need outside help ~5K per quarter

      You should be able to get your hardware costs to a known state by leasing them, then youll have the rest of your budget as contingency items...

      One thing that actually works really well for tracking budgets is MS project. You can enter an item, associate a date for (implementation/replacement/purchase/etc) and associate a budget amount with it as well.

      (sorry for the jumpyness of this message I wrote it in spurts over 4 hours as am busy at work :)

    3. Re:Here's what I do by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      Actually, cost of new employee is going to be about triple the annual cost per employee; you have to buy those ACAD licenses and the machines.

      The other big problem is plotters. There is a huge range of what companies have, but if you have 12 architects/designers/CAD people the plotting equation is tricky. We lease and bill back plots to projects. Without the kickbacks it would be a stupid move, but it moves the money between projects and as overhead.

      I'm in an engineering shop (M&E), and I would put us closer to 7k/yr per person in my group, and expect that to be at the high end (lots of specialized technical software, but minimal ongoing development on customized CAD solutions).

      It's also important to understand where the line is drawn between "utilities" (ISP, phone, electricity), and "office supplies" (toner, paper, CD blanks, DLT) as it impacts the IT budget.

    4. Re:Here's what I do by therodent · · Score: 1

      "(sorry for the jumpyness of this message I wrote it in spurts over 4 hours as am busy at work :)"

      Flux,

      Hilarious - I do the same thing with a lot of the better email and messages I write.... I'm not dyslexic but it comes out that way after so much patchwork.

    5. Re:Here's what I do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG! A real IT Architect!

    6. Re:Here's what I do by jtosburn · · Score: 1

      We've looked at leases but decided that they aren't for us for a couple of reasons:

      * Dell's prices for memory upgrades suck. Our stations need memory. Thus Dell wants twice what it costs me to build a system. (Building versus buying isn't for most businesses, but for us, I've lowered hardware failure rates, gotten better equipment for lower prices, and I have the time to build a few machines a couple times each year.)

      * Dell's service has undergone a long drawn out slide to uselessness. It's been so long since I called them and spoke with someone who knew even close to what I know (not that I'm some uber tech god, but these folks...), that it's a waste of my time. I have to troubleshoot it myself anyway, and no component is expensive enough that I get anything out of waiting on hold, convincing them of the source of the problem, and then waiting for a replacement. I can go buy a new part and have staff back in business in an hour if I just forgo the whole thing. (Laptops are a different matter, of course.)

      * Taxes. The benefit of leasing is that you can deduct the full cost of the lease, including what you're paying for financing, as opposed to purchasing, where you can deduct the cost over five years, and don't get to include the financing costs. But hey, if you can make your purchases without financing them, leasing no longer carries the finacial benefit. Think of it this way: take you lease payment times the term and compare that with what it would cost to just purchase the thing. You're paying more. Of course there's a benefit to your overall tax situation, but you're starting from further in the hole, and so the benefit doesn't justify the expense.

      * Predicatability. For you the main goal seems to be to stabilize hardware expenditures. Well, leases will do that, but at the expense of flexibility. Have a bad year, well, too bad, you still have to make those payments. Architecture is very cyclical, especially for smaller firms, and flexibility is worth a LOT (which is also why we don't do Autodesk's software subscription, which would stabilize the other large chunk of the budget). What I do is budget to get a certain number of systems per year. This total cost is a little less than what the total cost of lease payments for the year would be if we did it that way. If business dries up, we don't get all (or any, sometimes), and if business booms, so does our cash flow, and we can get more if need be.

      All this is to say that I can look at any given year in the next five years and give the bosses an excellent idea of what the budget will be, without leasing, and justify every dollar, all while maximizing our expenditures. So far it's working out pretty well for us.

      Joel

    7. Re:Here's what I do by jtosburn · · Score: 2, Informative

      New employees don't get new machines. If they stick around, then they're slotted into the priority list as appropriate to their capability to really push the machine. Autocad licenses are network managed, so we don't need a 1:1 ratio of licenses to staff, though new hires are likely to require some amount of new licensing. The biggest cost of new employees is really on the HR side.

      Plotters are expensive as hell, particulary if you ditch the slow inkjet world dominated by HP. But we can't operate without the ability to do lots of check plots; it's just part of the design process. We only bill back drawings that actually get published, which is probably 20%.

      $7k / staff is awfully damn high. You must use REALLY expensive software...Architectural Desktop runs $4800/license, and I manage to keep our costs ~ $2k, with good hardware, servers, plotter with multi-roll and wide format scanning, etc.

      Joel

    8. Re:Here's what I do by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      The Computational Fluid Dynamics, Electronic Codes Licenses, HVAC Load Calculation, Electrical Short Circuit/Coordination/Load Flow/Arc Flash programs all add to our costs significantly. Also, we have a number of small offices, which requires that we use multiple license servers (although not one per office). We basically use the license servers in a failover configuration, so some "extra" licenses are generally required (although not more than 10%).

      As for the new employees getting new machines, that's really just a function of growth. Administrative employees are eligible for hand-me-downs, but most of the engineers end up needing fairly powerful laptops.

      But yes, the HR costs are significantly higer... especially when a recruiter is involved!

  59. get requirements by briancnorton · · Score: 1
    Both methods you mentioned are bad ideas. Use them as metrics of the effectiveness of your IT, not a justification of how much to spend.

    Figure out WHAT THE WORKERS NEED, and how to give it to them. Then figure out how much it costs in a variety of scenarios. Use the one that is most futureproof, and multiply the figure by 1.33 and use that as your budget request. (the 1.33 is because nothing works right the first time)

    --

    People who think they know everything really piss off those of us that actually do.

  60. Always works for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work for a "SME" as they like to call it with about 50 employees. Our IT budget is calculated per-head and per-project plus internal infrastructure. This is kept artificially high and we stock pile equipment when we can get it as our budget will go down if we get "just what we need" so we can't buy new workstations 2 years down the line. Budgeting is about lying as much as possible to keep your company on the rails.

  61. You should qualify this by filtering out... by jaypaulw · · Score: 2, Informative

    responses by IT insiders who really have no understanding of the business picture.

    You want responses from people who understand the small professional services firm.

    My experience as an IT fence sitter in a small professional service firm is that if you were to recommend it, as the expert in the firm, the principals will be willing to pay for it.

    I would simply make a list of your expected needs and spread it out over the best time periods to implement the changes.

    If your owners are "cheap," don't try and be "strategic" into manipulating them into any more than they need. If they want the least expensive solution then your job is to find and make the least expesive solution work.

    If they think throwing gobs of money at the systems will guarantee zero problems, then make sure and keep their expectations in check.

    I like to point out that 4 hours of downtime costs X amount of employee time in $.

    We use an outside consultant who we have basically full confidence in, and we simply just follow his suggestions.

  62. Re:I'm in the same type of position and industry.. by Zak3056 · · Score: 1

    If your clients run Autodesk CAD software, then so should you, and that will make a huge dent in your bottom line. Our clients stagnated on AutoCAD 2000 for years, then just this month decided (and these are fortune-500 retailers, mind you) "oh, lets upgrade to AutoCAD 2006, so should YOU"...

    Their reasoning behind this was pretty sound--Autodesk EOLed acad2000 based products in january of this year. That means no support and (worse yet from a financial standpoint) acad2000 products no longer qualify for upgrade pricing. Acad2002 goes EOL in January of next year, so expect another cycle of your customers upgrading by then.

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    What part of "shall not be infringed" is so hard to understand?
  63. Models and size by 71thumper · · Score: 1

    The trouble with a small group is that the standard deviation is too large.

    In other words, to paraphrase an earlier poster, you can use "Cost per square foot" for building a home, and the larger the home, the more accurate the average.

    But if you are specifically building, say, a bathroom, you can't use that metric accurately.

    The best way to do it is, as others have suggested, "lay out what you need to get" and factor in your assumptions (replacement machines for old desktops, replacement printers, etc.).

    Don't forget sales tax, and put at least another 20% in to cover situations where you won't be able to use the cheapest vendor for some reason ("needed the toner NOW") etc...

  64. roadmaps, not budgets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We're a similarly sized shop and I've faced similar challenges.

    I think it's unrealistic to think in terms of departmental budgets when your entire operation is fewer people than a fast food franchise.

    What is more productive is to plan a set of roadmaps of where you think you'll be in a few years. One for growth, one for survival, flexibility... whatever the likely possibilities will be. Then price out the bits that would enable each path.

    After you have that part done, compare them to see where things are common and where things are different. At this point I wouldn't use these assets to plan a single budget and submit a number to the ceo or whatever. I would present the different roadmaps as strategic scenarios with lump-sum costs. Then I would outline the cost of what you definitely need (the common assets) and present a range of additional costs depending on which path you end up taking. State when these additional funds would be needed and how far ahead of time you would know you needed to spend it.

    This may be a bit more useful than just presenting and defending a single budget because small businesses can't afford to switch gears on a whim. You need to plan ahead and make purchases and investments shrewdly, with future needs, cost and scale in mind. And giving finance a ballpark of what future costs could be at different stages of the company will help the company decide when to make certain moves or prioritize certain goals over others.

    Generally, I think small shops are volatile enough that long term planning and flexibility is needed and annual budgets are kind of counterproductive and risky. It's more prudent to work as a team, figure out where you want to be 3 years from now and make infrastructure development part of the plan to getting there.

    When you get to a point where a $50,000 mistake is small enough to stomach, then annual budgets make sense. Not now.

  65. An actual serious reply..... by KarrottoP · · Score: 1

    The problem with a small buisiness is that the needs are constantly changing, especially in a small business that is growing. Expect a turnover on computers of about 3-4 years depending on how conservative the company is. Then you need to try and predict growth and realize how much money in software and hardware goes into each new user. You also need to determine how much money in software upgrades are required, depeding on the company (ie. an autocad using company) you need to spend a large sum of money every couple of years for every current user. There are really too many variables to get a solid idea but those are some that I would suggest....Remember in a small business improved equipment, new servers, printers, VOIP will be adders that you won't know you need until you do.

  66. Other gains of LCD screens by PCM2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    About a year ago, my company's IT department rolled out LCD screens to every employee and I was ecstatic. Not so much because I had been clamoring for a new screen (I hadn't even thought about it), but because it was an upgrade that actually made some kind of logical sense.

    Think about it. What I do all day is mostly send e-mails and work in Microsoft Office. A traditional 'upgrade' would be to drop a new, faster computer with a big hard drive on my desk. But not only does that take a lot of work on behalf of IT, not only is it incredibly disruptive to my workday, but it doesn't really benefit me at all. I can probably store my entire work folder and all its accumulated contents since I began working here on a single USB keychain drive. My CPU needs were met and exceeded some generations of hardware ago.

    On the other hand, a new LCD screen that's crisp, clear, and easy to read -- as opposed to some legacy, piece of junk CRT that's been getting blurrier and dimmer for years -- is something tangible that I look at and notice day in and day out. You might think it doesn't result in an increase in productivity, but I disagree completely. In fact, if someone had given me the choice between the monitor and a new CPU, I would have taken the monitor in a second.

    --
    Breakfast served all day!
    1. Re:Other gains of LCD screens by bitflip · · Score: 1

      I've always been able to justify better monitors, keyboards, and chairs. Those are the items I use the most, and the computer is virtually useless without them, so why shouldn't they be the best?

    2. Re:Other gains of LCD screens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the main gain for the IT staff:

      23" LCD monitor: 15.5 lbs.
      22" CRT monitor: 67 lbs.

      No lower back pain: priceless

  67. IT Budget for a small business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn it, doesn't anyone on /. know that the IT function is only in business to support the business goals. Find out what can be set into your IT budget by first finding out what actually supports the business. Then present your proposal based on what the business will gain by using the technology.

    Most for profit organisations will want anything that (a) reduces costs, (b) improves efficiency and (c) goes faster.

    You might need to replace any applications and hardware that are no longer suppported, purchase some IT products that are needed to meet regulatory requirements and so on.

    You could also start by looking into Information Systems rather than IT. I can recommend a book that won't impact too much on the budget (less than $50) its called "Strategic Planning for Information Systems", my version is by Ward and Griffiths, published by Wiley.

    There are a lot of informative Information Systems books that will point you in the right direction, many dedicated to the requirements of different sectors.

    For the love of mike, don't go running to the finance guy for his advice, since when do finance guys no diddly about IT?

  68. Be Careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We're about a 200 person company, and we go off of a percentage of revenue as our budget. It works just fine. You're smaller, so it might not work as well, but you need some kind of comparison to the money the company is making. You can go in and say "This is what we need, this is our budget", but this can easily cause overspending in your area.

    It's very easy to spend a lot of money in IT and think "Well, we need it" and actually be way overspending. Whatever you do, you need to have some kind of limiting factor or second non-IT head looking at everything.

    I've seen far too many people in IT who spend on the latest and greatest thinking, "This is what we need", when they could really get by with less. And they just went and wasted a fortune.

  69. Best advise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Create a 2 year plan and a 5 year plan where you think the company should be in 2 and 5 years. Then stick to the 2 year plan. That will create a baseline for budget. That simple. Don't try to put in the world. Try to do 1-2 projects per quarter. You must stick to your 2 year plan or you will always try to play catch up as well as dumping money down the drain. Five year plan can be more flexible and items in year 3, 4 and 5 should be able to change without breaking the bank.

    Don't have people SCOPE creep your budget. That will kill you. Have short term projects set in stone, long term try to be flexible. Put some padding into those long term items.

    After about a year, it will be a good measuring stick. Do not spend per employee. That model is hard to work with and often times gets you pigeoned holed into apps, OS's, etc and then a year from now, you have to rip it out because it no longer works or is out of capacity.

    Work with Virtual servers, centralized storage, and good disaster recovery items when you can. This save you money in the long run. If you can swing it, you might look at leasing hardware as well but just watch out when your lease expires - you will have to migrate the app or data off to a newer machine. Leasing does help with spreading the cost over a longer term without paying too much up front.

    Hope it helps.

  70. Opportunity cost by tpengster · · Score: 1

    I am not sure what level of answer you want here, but it seems from this 'percentage of revenue' business that you could use some advice at the highest level. (My apologies if I came to the wrong conclusions based on the short snippet that was on the slashdot front page.)

    Your company should spend on whatever will give it the highest return. If that happens to be IT, then spend on IT. If there is a better place to put the money, put it there.

    You talk about trying to find a justifiable method. The best justification is that the new budget will make a lot of money for the owner.

  71. Go With What's Proven by Quirk · · Score: 1
    Try a template, for example, in Canada, the Business Develpment Bank provides templates for starting mid sized businesses.

    If you're on foreign turf and don't know your way around then go with what generally works for others. There are usually government agencies that provide templates.

    If you're developing a budget then remember to develop it with an eye to your banker. A fubar budget cobbled together by a non accountant is not going to please your banker, your tax accountant, the tax dept...etc.

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    "Academicians are more likely to share each other's toothbrush than each other's nomenclature."
    Cohen
  72. Rolling budgets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work for the IT dept of a ~2000 employee company. One thing we've found useful this year that allows us to make changes to budgets due to unforseen projects that pop up for various reasons, is the introduction of "rolling budgets". This means instead of having a fixed budget of what will get done each quarter for the entire year, each quarter all the projects that were scheduled for that quarter get final review and approval by the exec team. Sometimes new projects are introduced, others delayed and others brought up higher on the prioratization list. This allows for max flexibility as well as realism of what is needed when while allowing for the ability to turn a large ship faster to keep up with competitors (or stay ahead of them).

    Our IT budget formula is almost scary simple. The business side of the company first comes up with what their priorities are for the year (i.e. open new offices, sell certain products that require new IT infrastructure, etc) and based on that, the IT budget is formulated. Stuff like, training, security audits, contingency plans for network and server equipment that could otherwise die unexpectedly, licensing issues etc are all taken into consideration at the time of budget for a particular product and are added in there by IT management. Then the business side just gets a very high level view - as in here's what it will cost from the IT side for your project. Then taking that number + other expense, they do a final calculation as to whether or not that is profitable project to initiate.

    Of course there's a lot more detail than just this, but there's some useful basics to start with.

    best of luck

  73. Good, Better, Best by jacobcaz · · Score: 1
    We too are a smallish company (75 employees) and when presenting options to our senior management team for review and approval I like to give them a good, better, best selection.

    Good is the bare minimum, it's a throw away solution intended to just get us by while spending the minimum amount of money to get the job done.

    Better is a solution that may not be "best-of-breed", but will scale and won't be trashed as soon as our needs/requirements change. It's what I always shoot for when asking for budget knowing that I can usually argue successfully for "better" because no one likes to spend money on disposable solutions.

    Best is, well best. Industry best-practice, best-of-breed hardware and software. Usually pie-in-the-sky type stuff. Enterprise level spending goes here. I rarely get it (once in two years) but when I do I feel really good.

    When setting department budgets I try to get a feel from our senior management of what IT issues will be business driven in the coming month, quarter, year, etc. and then prepare my budgets for approval using the outline above. 70% of the time I get "better" 29.5% of the time I get "good" and 0.5% of the time I get "best".

  74. ... from my experience ... by ninjagin · · Score: 1
    ... and I can say this (happily) because I don't have nearly the budgetary control or responsibility in this job that I used to in the past ... My dad does IT audits for AMEX, and I've also learned a lot from him.

    Per-user costing is not a consistent indicator of what the costs really are. For example, your developers, while they'll require fast workstations and any number of different productivity tools (IDEs, merge tools, repositories, other 3rd party products, etc.), won't be actually taxing the infrastructure in the same way that one or two QA guys will. The QA guys may not need all the tools of the development staff, but they'll need hardware that roughly approximates what your customers are going to be using for load/functional testing. The devs might need one or two workstations each, but the QA guys might need five or six, each with it's own licensing and maintenance cost features. Likewise, a developer may not be terribly taxing to your communications infrastructure, but when QA is replicating a customer problem that requires loading the network elements to the hilt, you'll need to consider the costs of creating subnets (and adding NEs) that can isolate that traffic from regular network goings on. The time it takes to set up and maintain these new subnets is part of the cost. I think, from what I recall of of managerial accounting, that this is called activity-based costing. Someone will likely correct me if I'm wrong.

    Consider also the idea of pitching more than one choice for what needs to be added or where money can be spent. Yes, you're the expert in all things IT, but people like choices. If you can propose cheap, middle, and spendy alternatives to dealing with a given purchase problem (if not to present to someone else, than for your own use), and qualify each with pros and cons, it may help you decide where the money can best be spent. Which alternative is going to satisfy in the 6 month time horizon? Which will satisfy in the 12-18 month horizon? Having a menu of choices that can fit into various anticipated need scenarios for capacity will help you when new challenges come up.

    One gotcha that is always lurking as you plan a budget is the "voice of optimism". It's natural to expect that the business will grow over time, but you can't plan on that. You can only budget for what you need, and -=need=- is based on immediate concerns. Budgeting (and then spending) based on growth expectations is a dicey thing. You can easily get into places where you overshoot the need and end up with excess processing/network capacity that never gets filled. Those ten rusting Netra pizza boxes you bought because you were so sure that customer X would be depending on you to have them will be the stone around your neck when you get thrown overboard. Solution: buy one Netra pizza box for baselines and partner with the customer to gauge expectations about how many more you'll need and when.

    Oh, one of my own pet peeves was not having enough disk space available, or the drives available to increase partitions when emergencies cropped up. Budget for plenty of spare HDs and make sure that SAN capacity upgrades (if you don't have a SAN, then a file server) are planned with all necessary funds allocated. Once I get past 60-70% capacity, I start worrying and looking for new drives. Make sure the people that affect your budget understand that storage is a big fluffy cushiony pillow that costs money to stay so comfortable. It's never an emergency cost, but you'll need more storage space each year than you needed the year before. Disk space is NOT a flat yearly cost, but you prolly know that already.

    hope it helps

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  75. Be generous with estimates by Ynazar1 · · Score: 1

    As a member of IT department in 100 employee small business that is primarily computer-oriented, take my word: "Whatever you allocate will not be enough! Unless you do like twice the budget you amply need."
    Either it's better laptops for developers or those QA servers ($3000 each) or replacing outdated/dying hardware. You'll be running out of money in no time.

    Well, in any rate; you have to look at the company really needs and also consider what you plan to accomplish within the budget time:
    If you need to hire a new person, that's 30-40K+
    If you need new computers, plan for 1k each or so, laptops for about 1.5k each. (Give or take $500 on quality).
    If you need new servers, plan for 2K+/each easily, more if you need better than low-end stuff.
    Give yourself at least few thousands/month in terms of leeway, as you never know what kind of weird things you'll suddenly have a neeed of.
    If the company is growing fast, ask for more than if its growing slow. (You'll most likely to get the numbers you need if you ask for more initially, but don't be greedy).
    Remember, IT is a growing field, and if the company doesn't want to expand their IT base, you need to get out of there no matter how much you like the company itself.

    I could go on for a while, but this should give you enough of a start.

  76. My experience with IT budgets by Rev.LoveJoy · · Score: 1
    First an observation: drafter's their tech needs are generally higher per seat than other employee types (exception: CNC users).

    Some things you might consider:
    -- All the good advice above about inventory.
    -- Depreciation schedules you can live with. I am amazed how many accountants still think computers are good for 5 years.
    -- Consider leasing software. Many will disagree with me for very valid reasons. Software leasing (most are 12 or 24 months) work well for our business. They give me software numbers I can stick too 99% of the time. None of this, "Oops, Office XYZ came out this year and we need 24.5K to upgrade Office JBF to XYZ. Suck." Another advantage in the CAD busienss is you do not have to rush out and buy that one copy of CAD.Latest when everyone else (except that 1 customer) is still good with CAD.LastYearsVersion and then shuffle all that customer's files to the ONE user who has CAD.Latest.
    -- Treat hardware as commodity. In most cases it does not merit your time to do anything under the hood apart from a memory upgrade.
    -- My trick: write your budget out in a spreadsheet. You will have lots of line items. Spend an hour organizing them (software, VARs, hardware, printing services, server hardware, battery backup, off site storage, whatever). Now put this list away for a solid week and then revisit it.
    -- TALK TO OTHERS IN YOUR INDUSTRY ABOUT THEIR SPENDING.

    Best of luck,
    -- RLJ

  77. Per seat I suggest by paj1234 · · Score: 1

    Hello, Tirthas. Interesting question, thank you for asking Slashdot! I should say I am not really qualified to answer your question because I have not ever managed an IT budget personally. However, products like AutoCAD LT 2006 are licenced on a per-seat basis http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?A UT-118961 I believe. If there are 20 members of staff I expect your employer plans to expand. A per-seat calculation could help the business owner decide whether to take on another member of staff by giving an idea of what expense to allow for an extra seat.

    I would not use percentage of revenue because questions of revenue are not yours to ask IMHO. Revenue may go up and down but staff count may be relatively stable I expect. If avoiding percentage of revenue saves you having to do recalcuations, it will have the golden virtue of being the simpler method.

  78. everyone else inbetween... by aqsv49 · · Score: 1

    The first post is the best answer to that questions, the rest of the posts are from morons.

  79. Flexible and Real by n9mdh · · Score: 1

    To the wisdom offered by others, I would add these insights:

    1. Approach your budget from a project perspective. This means that instead of giving your boss a Christmas list, you present a group of project proposals. Each proposal identifies who, what and how much.

    2. Prioritize these projects, getting your boss' input. Budgeting/funding decisions are then made on whole projects. With a list of prioities already in place, what to cut is then an easy thing to do.

    3. Include plans on re-using old parts, or how you plan to dispose of these things. Smaller businesses all too often either throw away perfectly good technology, or keep junk in the basement (or both). For example, RAM from an old machine can make for a free upgrade for a box waiting to be upgraded.

    4. By staggering the implementation of new technology, old units kept at the company for re-use become your "loaner fleet"-- machines you can rapidly swap with similar machines that go down. This lowers the cost for your employer and makes you look like a star.

    5. Don't forget the $20 killers-- keyboards, mice, UPS batteries, etc. Standardize these things and find the vendor with the best price. A bad UPS can cost hundreds of dollars of lost labor alone if it fails at a crucial point. Don't forget to UPS the comapny's network, too. (I have never found a smaller company with UPS protection for their network. It's a little hard to emergency save to the file server if the network is dark.)

  80. Hardware choices should not be made totally by IT by pres · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The other thing to keep in mind is that you need "thoughtful" input on what you are buying. Its one things to decide if laptops or desktops would be more cost effective IT wise, its another to ask people if they prefer a laptop or desktop but the real question is, what does it mean for your culture and work style.

    Based on what tools people are given they will find different ways to work. In the most basic example, give them laptops and they will work in groups but also from home more. Give them desktops and they will come in but perhaps not be flexible enough. This applies to quite a few hardware and software purchese. When you save $1000 dollars by giving the two sales guys slower machines are you saying they are not as important as the 20 developers? Perhaps you should just spend the extra $1000...or perhaps not.

    I only suggest you keep in mind that even decisions that seem totally IT or budget based can have wider implications.

    Someone at a management level should be thinking though these questions as part of this process.

  81. The real question - why does a 20 person firm need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why would a 20 person firm need an IT manager? What do you do all day? I think the first step would be to fire yourself and hire a good third party IT shop to manage the shop...

  82. Skip all this big budget crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just design an Apple based system. Then you can skip all the anti-virus worries, you've got most of your functionality built in, and when the hardware costs are amartized you'll save a boat load of cash.

  83. the simplest rule to follow by v1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    is often one of the easiest. The bean-counters, especially the computer-illiterate ones, look at the WidgetMaster 2000 and all they see is a price tag, because they have no idea what this magic device does, or how it is going to help the company make money. When all you have is a price tag to work with, all you can do is go cheap. ;)

    So, for any item you would like to have, (I didn't say "have to have") you need to put together a simple description of the item. Explain in plain terms what it does, this will help the people that have half a clue. Then spell out how this item will save money or make money, in simple terms. (go on the assumption that what you have just told them is ALL they know about the item at this point) Explain how long the item will last, and how long it will take to break even. Explain how much money you roughly estimate the item will make your company over its lifespan, factoring in its initial cost and the cost of updates, maintenance, etc. Don't cut corners on the future costs - they need to know if you have to buy a new license for the software every year or renew a service contract.

    Do this for anything you would like to have. Do not restrict yourself to things you think you will get, or just the things you find essential. Include it all. They are unlikely to approve everything, so there is no sense in being picky about what you ask for - you can't get what you didn't ask for. You might drop a hint to the reviewers when you hand it in, giving them a hint as to how much of this you expect to be approved. This will ease tensions as they may still not understand how much of this you need and how much you want. If you tell them you're hoping to get at least 50% of what's on the list, they won't freak out trying to figure out where they're going to get budget to get 95% of your list. (this usually leads to you getting a completely random assortment)

    Depending on who's evaluating the list, it may also be useful to break the items down into groups. "Essentials", things we need to get to stop hemoraging money. "Needs", things we need to become more proffitable, improve efficiency, improve customer response time, etc. "Try-outs", things we'd like to get into and we're looking for a sample of the technology to see if it's worth a buy-in. "Extras", things we strictly don't need, but that may have a positive effect on the company... these can include things that simply make employees' jobs easier to do or more tolerable. (how about a radio for the mailroom?) If they're short on cash they may very well go entirely on this grouping to determine what they get - maybe they only get the essentials and the needs this year.

    This does a lot for you. It stops them from buying stupid things you don't really need rather than the things you had to have yesterday. It also helps them to make informed decisions about what they should buy and what can wait until next year or next quarter. And it helps you because you can push the tech in the direction you are prepared to go rather than getting a spray of differnt items which could take your people in three different directions at once. You are their only source of information right now and what you tell them is very important to your business. You aren't actually the one spending the money, but they are depending on your professional opinion right now to spend that money where it counts. What you tell them will determine the direction your I.T. goes for the next 10 months.

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    I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
  84. Not just this year by darrell73 · · Score: 1

    If this is your first year budget (ie. something that management just thought might work) then chances are you are going to have been in a holding pattern for the last several years (just fixing things).

    So take this opportunity to do a bit more of forward planning. I am sure you have some idea of what is required to get the system to a reasonable level right now. However be aware this figure is likely to scare the hell out of management. So take the next step and work out what you will need the following year as well. Chances are you will see a smaller amount that management can appreciate. It also gives the accountants some figures to play with (well we can't afford the new switch this year, but we can put it off to next year).

    But as some of the posters have said here, go and talk to the accountant or other management figure that holds the purse strings! It is in this negotiation that you will see certain constraints that you will need to work within, as well as provide them with your view of the current situation and your priorities. If you can negotiate effectively then you will see your budget develop before your eyes with preapproval.

    But before this, just prepare what you need!

    So again, look up to three years. Factor in licenses, consumables and other things that you will purchasing yearly. Call this the recurrent budget. This isn't going to change majorly from year to year (with the exception below).

    Then look at the capital items. These are the big purchases that need to happen and are bought infrequently (servers, plotters etc). Work these on a yearly basis, just give the account time to find the money (ie. Let him/her know well before the next budgeting cycle).

    Once you have your capital items, use this to change the recurrent budget. If you buy another server, you will need to increase the recurrent licensing line. If you buy another plotter, increase your consumables.

    And above all, try to factor in NEW staff. As soon as a new staff member arrives, this will more than likely necessitate a new computer, licencing and consumables. Try and factor a cost for this and let the accountant know. He/she already has costs (recruiting, pay, superannuation etc) associated with another staff member. Another associated cost makes both your life easier. Of course replacements don't count! ;-)

    And the last bit is, don't feel guilty! Your first budget will not go far towards fixing all of the problems and risks you currently experience. So if the line item for new server gets axed and 6 months later the server dies, don't feel guilty. You did your best! Sticking the final budget to your office door may be the best way to avoid angry users!

    Oh, IANAA. Just learnt from my mistakes.

  85. Stuff gets old... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your entire system will need to be replaced over and over again as the stuff gets old. Budget = value of system divided by life cycle plus IT staff salaries.

  86. Get help! by sumdumgai · · Score: 1

    Yes, Mod the parent. I run my own business similar to the author of the reply If you think it is too expensive, consider the cost of it not working or not fulfilling your needs. Seek out several professionals and get bids. Don't go with a consultant who is locked into one solution. Don't listen to salesmen.

        The most important task you can perform is to define your business needs. A good consultant will start from there. Don't buy hardware first! I see this all of the time. The cost of doing this wrong will be much greater than hiring a professional to do it right.

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    âoeIn theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not." â Albert Einstein
  87. Outsource by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a IT service provider to supply all your IT requirements, then they can use the money saved from your salary to buy a couple of new pc's

  88. ROI by Alworx · · Score: 1

    In my part of the world (northern Italy) the only parameter that works is the ROI* index. A 1,000$ computer in admin will improve productivity by 10% for 3 years. The business' turnover is 100,000$ g.p.a. thus the investment is good (bloody good!). A 500$ wireless kit will improve productivity by .1% ... no way! If you have no idea how the new investment will alter the productivity ratio, then it doesn't even get considered by those who run the budget. That's how we work, hope it's of some interest! Alex.

  89. Some things to consider by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because you haven't defined what type of industry you work in or stated what the company's long and short term goals are there are many questions that need to be answered. For instance...

    How good are you "in" with those that make the hiring and firing decisions? Is your growth in personnel stabilized as a company? Is your small business computer-centric? Where is it growth wise you plan to be in 6 months? A year? 5 years? What is the level of computer savvy-ness of your users? Is your business affected by seasonal trends? What exactly are the business needs of your employees? Do you need techinical or specialized software/hardware? Do you have additional fulltime IT staff? At what stage are you growing the IT infrastructure? Everyone has a computer? X amount of people have to share a computer? Your staff hasn't used computers but have seen them used? What are the hours of your business? 9 to 5 weekdays? Works weekends? 365/7/24? Are there laptops? Do your users require portability? Do your workers work at home? Is there lots of travel? Do you work in a major metropolitan area? Do you have to support PDA's? Do you have standardized software? Do you have a standardized OS? Do you support "company" machines or do you support "personal" laptops someone brought from home to use at work? How much freedom do workers have to install their own software/apps? Do all your workers work at the same time? Would digital convergence help your users or is it too many things for them, for you? Is your company seeking to be bought out or merged?

    These are a handful of questions that need to be answered.

  90. Outsource! by LodCrappo · · Score: 1
    I'm sure the guy asking this question won't like to hear it, but come on.. a full time IT guy at a company with 20 employees? I realize some businesses are more dependant on their computers than others, but I work for a consulting firm that has many clients with 20-100 employess that do not pay for a full time IT staff.. very few with less than 50 that have any IT staff at all.

    It just doesn't make sense. For starters, you will save $50-$80k per year by firing your IT guy (depends quite a bit on where you're at). Second, you will have at your disposal a whole staff of experts in every area from security to database design to wan/connectivity. These aren't overwhelmed guys with their A+/MCSE/whatever struggling to make sure everyone's PC boots up in the morning, these are experts who each earn much more than your company will ever pay for an IT guy, yet because you only pay for the time you acutally need them, they cost very little. Of course you'll have break/fix guys as needed as well.

    End result, you will have the benefits of a full IT department but will pay much less you would for one guy who just wings it most of the time. I don't care how great you are at this or that, no one person is an expert in all the areas that even a very small business can use IT expertise in.

    Now on to the equipment side of your budget... well who better to make recommendations than someone who's job it is to analyze the market and help your company (and hundreds of others much liek yours) pick out the best solution in terms of performance and ROI. Not someone who does research on the web in between help desk calls, a real consultant who has relationships with vendors, attends trade shows and has been doing this for years. Again, outsourcing makes sense and saves you money.

    I know I am biased, I'm a consultant :) But I think my points are pretty strong. Outsourcing is something every small and even some medium businesses should really consider.

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    -Lod
    1. Re:Outsource! by uncreativ · · Score: 2, Insightful


      This is from the perspective of an IT geek in a (i'd call it a small company as little as 4 years ago) medium size company. Of course I'd like to take all the credit for the company's growth--many others contributed significantly in their own areas of responsibility.

      The problem with consulting is that managers tend to look at IT spending as buying a commodity. Spend more, and you will get more of this stuff called IT. Consultants make it easy for managers to not have to understand how IT impacts business processes. Sure, it is the consultant's job to recommend those systems, but without an IT aware person on staff, how does the manager practically evaluate the consultant's recomendations.

      As a director of IT in my company, I find myself spending a large amount of time educating other managers about what IT can and cannot do. Again, consultants can do this work, but they have a profit motive to spend more and do more on IT projects. The fact is, consultants love to keep their clients in the dark so they can be milked for more money. A consultant can never understand the inner workings of a company, because unlike the IT staffer, they don't see the day to day.

      Consultant bashing asside, it would be tough to justify one full time IT person for an office of 20 people in some, but not all offices. Though, achitecture firms are the obvious choice for full time IT person since that IT person can do other design oriented things as well--web, graphics, etc .

      Our company has looked at other comanies in our industry and have found that bigger companies in particular spend a lot more on IT when they rely on consulting. I guess they never internalized how to use IT before they got big. End result--we are a lot more efficient than big companies.

      Outsourcing does have a role. Don't be afraid to outsource those areas your IT person doesn't have strength in. Only pay to outsource those areas you need to--that way you don't have to pay consultant rates for someone else to do all your IT thinking for you. As your company grows, you can wean yourself away from consultants as you complement skills of existing IT staff with new hires. Honestly, besides some design oriented stuff and some basic office network stuff, this architecture firm doesn't need a lot of high end IT talent. When you have multiple offices, hire a good networking/telecom guy to tie all your offices together.

    2. Re:Outsource! by LodCrappo · · Score: 1
      You have some good points, and I do have alot of clients who have a small IT staff and supplement it with our services when needed. In many cases this is someone who's "good with computers" and actually has some other primary responsibility in the firm. This is a good approach if your company does need someone around all the time for help desk type things that remote support cannot do or do as well.

      I guess your experience with using consultants will vary drastically based on the firm you do business with. You're right, trusting a consultant with all of your IT decisions might not be a good idea, and might lead to wasting money if your consultanting firm is not honest with you.

      That said, I have worked for 3 different consulting firms (all small, 20 people at the largest) in the past 10 years. It might just be my luck or that I seek out poeple to work with who think like I do, but I can honestly say that the advice I've given and seen given has almost always been an honest attempt to solve the problem at hand in the best way possible. Sure, I've given bad advice but it was out of ignorance, not greed, and I've done whatever I could to make things right when I have made a mistake. I think that if you find a good firm to work with, you'll come to think of them as an extension of your staff rather than as an outside force. I have clients where they keep an office for me, and trust me I am very familiar with their day to day routines.

      Even better than being familiar with company XYZ's day to day, I know company ABC, MNO, etc.. and very often can give them insight into what other firms in their line of business have had good of bad experiences with. They benefit from knowledge that no internal employee could hope to come by first hand.

      There are times in life or in business when you have to partner with experts and you won't have the knowledge to thoroughly analyze their performance. Many small businesses use an outside accounting firm. Most consult outside lawyers when they have legal needs, an electrician service when needed, etc. I'm not sure where the idea that a small business should try to do their own IT comes from, but I assure you that I have many clients who are very happy that they have us as a resource, and many clients who have benefited from having access to a much wider variety of services than any single person or small group can provide.

      Like any other time you must rely on outside expertise, you might not be able to understand every piece of advise you're given, but in time the results of following it do demonstrate the overall effectiveness of the service (i'm thinking back to a lawyer that gave me some truely horrible advice several years ago.. :/

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      -Lod
  91. Boy, what I could do with 3% of revenue! by pogson · · Score: 1

    I work in a school where the workload is likely less and most of our systems are identical, but we usually go two Microsoft cycles before upgrading and junk the old stuff. Our spending is way less than 1% of budget.

    What I would do with 3% is spend like mad on the hottest hardware for a thin client server (using Linux) each year so our CPU power/memory/storage capability would increase linearly, replace mice, keyboards, screens (with a shift to LCD), fans, power supplies and thin clients as needed. Having only a small cluster of servers running identical stuff would really cut the maintenance load and allow spending on stuff people touch like mice/keyboards and printers. If you keep those things looking good, keep the system getting faster instead of slower, keep files safe and do not let it crash with failover protections you will be a hero. With that kind of cash I could have backups for my backups and hardware that would just keep going.

    Last year, I was in a school that spent $50000+labour going from Lose98/NT to XP/2003. Using a Linux terminal server and replacing the ten year old boxes (the six year olds were solid) would have cost $5000+labour, a lot less labour. Updating XP on all our desktops took two days with all kinds of problems. Updating the Linux terminal server can usually be done in an hour or so apart from download time. At 3% of cash flow, I would have had $150000 to play with... I might not have had room to hold the goodies.

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  92. Fire the information manager by bbc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As we all know, the biggest dent in budgets is made by personnel costs.

    Unless the information manager is only doing information management 2 or 3 hours a week, I would say it is useless for such a small company to have one on staff. If the company has such a strange spending pattern that spending on other things actually outweighs hiring an information manager, then you're not doing your job; and if you are doing your job, your job is redundant.

  93. Learn more, work less by rotagivan · · Score: 1

    It's starting to seem like the more I learn, the less chance I have at getting hired anywhere.

  94. No..that's how it's done: by henni16 · · Score: 1

    I'll do it for 5 million:
    - 2 millions for me
    - 2 millions for the guy needing the budget for giving me the contract
    - 1 million for TurdTapper to do the work

    Hey, if it works for Halliburton, it will work for us.. ;-)

  95. now the peons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in your org (who read slashdot most likely) know to sabotage the boxes they want to use. Then un-sabotage them once they get them. ;p

  96. Establish some baseline objectives by pkesel · · Score: 1

    Rather than giving them just a budget, set some baseline technology objectives for the firm and use them to guide spending. Things like, "No front-line PCs over 2 years old." "No piece of equipment costing more than 30% of replacement cost to keep running." "No LAN speed less than 100Mb/s in the infrastructure." "No piece of enterprise software more than 1 major revision behind current."

    These things will be guidelines that will let you count hte cost to get to the standard, and give guidelines on future spending as well.

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  97. Small business technology budgeting by Clived · · Score: 1

    Been there, done that.
    Just make a list (on a spreadsheet) of what you might need for the coming budgetary period..
    Divide it up into relevant sections such as Hardware, software, support, etc..make sure you have relevant documentation as to why you need all this stuff. Come up with a proposal to the "powers of be"....

    KISS principle (keep it simple, stupid)

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  98. Build a Business Case by thetan · · Score: 1

    You really need a business case. There's lots of resources out there to help, but the basic idea is to compare the costs of having IT with the costs of NOT having IT. It's pretty easy to work out the former using TCO calculators and the like. Working out the cost of NOT having IT is the hard part, but ultimately it's what will convince your boss. You have to look at opportunity costs and costs-to-revenue too. For example, the sticker-price for an anti-virus package might be $100. The TCO for three years might be $500. (Straightforward.) The cost of NOT having that anti-virus package would be the cost of losing data, losing time, losing clients, losing revenue etc multiplied by the probability of those events happenining. (Difficult.) There is one saving grace: you don't really need to work out the cost of NOT having the anti-virus package in any great detail, just whether it's (significantly) above or below $500. So, in this case, you don't need to fuss about whether it's actually $725 or $730 (or whatever) - if it's over the threshold then you demonstrably need it!

  99. Three Things by SwimsWithTheFishes · · Score: 1

    First of all, you have to support your current IT infrastucture. Hard-drives will fail, tapes wear out, classes/books for learning stuff, etc. etc. This budget is the easiest to make, look at historical spending.

    Second of all, will the company grow, stay the same or shrink (yikes!). Talk with the managers - what do they see. This is your projection for new workstations, switches, increased tape backup, more hard drive space, etc. etc.

    Thirdly you go sit somewhere and *think* about what IT can do to help the company. Growth, increased efficiency, competitive advantages, alignment with a big customer's needs, etc. etc. Basically it's what you can do with technology you don't use, or under use, or mis-use. This project (or projects) will have costs and benefits. Sell the project on it's return, or on the benefit for being able to do something your competitors can't do.

    Then add 10 to 15%. That's what your boss will take out. Unless he's a saint.

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  100. Define Justifiable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "I am having some difficulty establishing a justifiable budgeting method."

    Go with the valid method(s) that offers the largest "justifiable" budget possible.

    • You can show "reason(s)" to support your estimates.
    • You will always have the resources necessary and, if you are under budget, you can always claim savings.
    • Bosses tend to perceive you as irresponsible if you budget low and beg later.
    • If your boss cuts your budget (which he will) there will be an unspoken/implied "well, you cut my estimates" should you come back later.
  101. Your answer is: by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 1

    *drumroll*

    .513% of the individual's gross salary, per year, unless they're a receptionist, in which case it's half that; or if they're a partner, it's three times that. Take the result, multiply by 2 if they're born on a Saturday, but divide by 3 if they drive a white car.

    There, that give you enough to get the things you need? No? Then how about you identify the things you need, and buy those?

    Really, it comes down to this: your bosses hired you to give IT recommendations. If they need to compare your recommended costs against some arbitrary metric to see if you're highballing or lowballing, they're trusting the metric more than they're trusting you. There's just to many factors to make that reasonable--the only case that you could use this in is in 5 years, when you plot future budgets against past budgets. By then you should have some correlation between success of a project and IT layouts, and it's tailored to your very specific environment. But until then, buy what you need, have a rainy day fund, and don't spend a dime more.

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  102. Cost center? by jawahar · · Score: 1

    Is your firm a cost center or a profit center?

  103. Return On Investment by DragonHawk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here's a tip that often gets lost on people: Everything in business spending -- and by that I mean EVERYTHING IN BUSINESS SPENDING -- comes down to one thing: Return On Investment. How much do you get back for what you spend, and how fast?

    Of course, quantifing things like worker productivity, morale, and community image can be hard, but you can make a good go at it. Look at how much time people spend waiting for the computer, bitching about the computer, or otherwise Not Getting Stuff Done Because Of The Computer.

    It's amazing how many people don't get this. User: "I want this, and this, and this." Me: "Will it help you do your job?" User: "No." Me: "Buh-bye now." Salesdroids, too: "Our new Plasmomatic 6000 SUX can make copies and solve the halting problem!" Me: "But I just want to make copies. Why should I pay for more?"

    More serious examples: When evaluating new network printers, I look up how much paper we bought for the thing over the past couple years and figured out average pages per month. Cost-per-page is easy to find in spec sheets these days. I picked a few models, got the costs and calculated differences in same, and then figured out how long the savings would take to pay for the price differences. This pointed right at the model to buy.

    I found the QA people were doing diagrams for their procedures in, $DEITY help me, Microsoft Paint. Getting approval for a vector graphics program was simple once I showed how much faster it would make things.

    Conversely, when the new CAD guy wants a high-performance laptop but will only be on the road three times a year, it's easy to point out that the ROI is not there. He gets a much cheaper high-performance desktop, and he can limp along with one of the "floater" laptops if he has to.

    If an investment can't pay for itself, you don't buy it.

    A lot of budget decisions become a lot easier once you understand this concept.

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  105. Protect and Preserve Contract Documents by anwaya · · Score: 1
    The business of an architectural practice is producing Contract Documents, which must be kept for years: specifications, drawings, instructions, and correspondence with contractors and consultants.

    You must have a long-term strategy for document preservation. You must also make sure that you can still retrieve and view these documents up to the end of the life of the practice's liability for a particular project: that means keeping hardware, operating systems and applications software available so that the contract documents can be reviewed at any time until the liability is over.

    This is not an option. The long term survival of the business can depend on this.

  106. If You Have Windows, Don't Botther w Door Locks by was_ms_now_linux · · Score: 1

    Save your company some money; if you have Windows desktops connected to the internet, don't even bother to put locks on the doors as you've already guaranteed access by outsiders. Doug Hettinger www.SoftwareObjectz.com

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    1. Re:If You Have Windows, Don't Botther w Door Locks by Blitzenn · · Score: 1

      " Save your company some money; if you have Windows desktops connected to the internet, don't even bother"

      That is a pretty unprofessional view. It's awfully odd that 90+ percent of the companies out there in the US already run a Windows environment and they already successfully manage it. The problem is not that you cannot make a windows environment secure, it's that a great deal of people do not take the time to do it or don't understand how to. There is a great division of understanding between a home user, who is most likely vulnerable and a corporate environment, where it is more than likely so locked down that you can't get your coffee without signing on seven times.

      The real challenge is to figure out where you can draw the line between utilizing open source software and where it will not suit your needs and you need to use a windows or other pay for use product. A good manager will be able to mix both where necessary and keep a lid on the costs associated with licensing of the pay for use stuff and the cost of management of the open source wares.

      To flat out dismiss a possible solution, because you have a misconceived notion of it's abilities or lack thereof is a proven road to failure.

  107. Make Sure You Run These Numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make sure in your listing that you express the importance of the upgrades and staffing.

    Here is what I mean, if you main drafting guy has a problem with his computer so he loses a half a day, calculate the cost to the company for his down time verses possible additional staffing.

    Also, same key employee on a 2 year old machine verse current technology. I know personally when I am do alot I can get my machine to the spot were it is dragging so I lose time waiting. Take that amount of time and figure out how much productivity the employee is losing.

    Depending on your responsibilities and the size of your office the second IT person may not be cost effective but the newer computer may easily be justifiable.

  108. budget = how may seats of autocad... by capsteve · · Score: 2, Insightful

    i think the real question being posed to our friend is: for our small architectural firm, how many copies of autocad photoshop illustrator are we buying this year? what is the minimum software and hardware we need to purchase to keep our employees productive whitout breaking the bank? i was speaking with a guy from a small architectural firm last year during a focus group, and what i gleened from that conversation is how much architecture relies on presentation. marker renderings and topographical models have been replaced by 3d renderings and photoshop compositions from existing elevation photos...

    at the end of the day it's a head/seat count for hardware and software. i usually count on at least 1 major upgrade a year which i'll be asked to purchase at a cost of 30-70% of original cost, plus 1-2 major bug fixes, and 1-6 minor fixes at little to no charge, regardless of software. i also expect production hardware to be replaced(desktop computers, large format plotters, centralized workgroup laser printers, color copiers) every 3 years, and system hardware(servers, raid storage, network equipment, tape jukeboxes, server archive software, other server software) to be replaced every 5 years.

    of course YMMV in your particular scene, so don't ask your boss to replace a bunch of gear if he's a cheapskate. pose every need as exactly that, a need. we can't do our presentations WITHOUT photoshop CS2, we NEED to upgrade 10 copies of autocad to version 2006 our senior architect is complaining that his BOOTLEG copy of version 14 is taking a long time to launch, our HP5000 is breaking down and the cost or repair is MORE that a years worth of lease payments, if we don't buy X copies of Y software, one of our disgruntal former employees will drop a dime on us and call the SPA or BSA, so here's a schedule for how to get legit in the next 3 years... you get the picture... if you can't buy it this year, schedule it for next year, unless it's a break fix.

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  109. It will never happen but.. by t0qer · · Score: 1

    IT's budget should be taken out of the budgets of other departments. For instance..

    I've noticed sales teams suck up more of IT's time than any other department. Aside from not being totally computer savvy and requiring constant training, i've seen laptops that got mangled/dropped on the way back from trade shows, an insistance on getting every new gadget that comes out (palm pilot/GSM cellphone/marital aid)

    I think this would be a much more fair way of distributing IT across a company. Engineering folks almost never call IT. Same goes for the phone support folks, but sales, marketing, accounting, and everyone on the executive level with a ditzy assistant sucks up more of IT's time than world of warcraft (which has been sucking my time away like mad as of late)

    Something else i've never seen in IT is accountability for service calls. I've seen vantive databases, keeping track of what calls go where, but i've never once seen IT manager A. go to sales manager B. to tell them their underling is sucking up 5 hours a week for the same problem.

    I guess i'm just jaded. For some reason taking the cost of an IT service call out of an employees paycheck seems like the best to me.

  110. Stick with your plan by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    Well, he probably doesn't need to drop $20,000 on a consultant to tell him his list is a little thin, and he should be spending more. Sorry, but I think he has already received many valuable answers. Generally, I suspect managers hire you because they think their IT guy doesn't know what hes doing. If my IT guy suggested a high priced consultant, I would assume he didn't know what he was doing, and either get him in-house budgeting help (if he was really good at the geek stuff) or find someone better.

    If you read his question, he's not trying to come up with a budget - he already has one. Reading between the lines, he's worried that its too much. Cost per employee or percentage of gross revenue is a yardstick against which the budget will be measured by non-techincal types, and compared with "industry averages" to see if spending is in line with competitors. If he's really concerned that his budgets are high, he needs to grab the president/CEO and have a one-on-one before budgets get presented.

    By the way, running IT as a profit center tends to piss off your clients. I happen to run a small engineering firm (architecture-related), and have worked in both government and commerce in several firms, and have a wife who has been business operations manager in two industries. People HATE being nickel and dimed for little shit. In a field like architecture, where there are as many small firms in a city as there are ants in your back yard, you have to make people love you to get clients. Annoying a single client with a bunch of little line item charges can mean the loss of a dozen or more potential clients/jobs. BTW - in most (medium) architectural firms, everybody is a cost center, even the architects. Fees tend to be negotiated based on a percentage of estimated construction, not hourly rates or printing charges, and are usually fixed - or nearly so.

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  111. Spend money to make money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This worked for me last year:

    "If we don't spend the money on migrating to SQL Server from Access to run our business, by the end of the year there won't be a business to run."

    Simple. Truthful. Effective.

  112. Budget based on goals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have managed small technical centers for over 10 years. One thing is constant. You will never budget correctly. but the following helps.
    Force yourself to be part of the planning of the company - not just the 'technical' budget. Most comapnies do not know what is available to them and what options they really have to leverage technology for their business needs. Once that planning is done, simply budget the costs of the business plan.
    For maintenance, take the average price of a new PC/laptop times the number of employees and divide by three. Adjust up or down for your circumstance. Add $120 per employee for a non-open source environment. For your datacenter, assuming no known purchases, plan on the replacement cost of the datacenter and divide by 5. Add license costs and annual maintenance. That should get you as close as the best budgeters out there.

  113. Easy as 0-1-2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zero - the bottom line - what do I need to keep the lights on around here? Figure out what you need to replace in the next 12 months, like toner or ink and which computers are past their warranty (either budget to replace the computer or buy extended warranties). If you have just enough for step zero you have no extra dollars. You have to include this in your budget.

    One - risks and easy wins - Is your backup strategy good enough? Do you need an off-site vault? Is the IT stuff covered by your insurance? - budget at level 1 to cover likely risks and disaster recovery. Also, would it be cheaper in the long run to use color laser printers or ink jets? What about LCD monitors? Should we upgrade the file server? Level 1 can catch easy enhancements that will make IT run better or cheaper, but require investment up front. Typically you'll hold this money for most of the budget period then spend at the end if the risks have not materialized. You should include this as "discretionary" budget.

    Two - Project time! - Do we need to switch operating systems? Do we need a SAN? What about that new document management solution everyone's talking about? - here budget for projects that would be cool or profitable to do but need serious attention and high-level approval before you can get the money. Don't spend too much time unless you have a really strong this-will-make/save-money business case, but try to think of at least one so the boss can cut it (or not!). This is the discretionary high-risk, high-return territory. Good projects tend to find money - the executives will go get the additional money if you show them how it will come back to the company, and if it's not needed elsewhere for the core business - so projects don't always have to connect to the budget cycle. They'll change the budget if it's sweet enough, or instruct you to include it next cycle.

    Present all this in these three sections, with projects and enhancements in their own paragraphs/sections so they can be individually crossed off the budget proposal. The point of the game is not how much you can get, but to get your have-to funding and some of the rest in a way that shows your boss you understand the difference between "can" and "have to", and that what you spend on "can" has to make an improvement that's worth the expense.

  114. As funny as it can be, it's true by Calyth · · Score: 1

    Yup. It's true.
    I'm currently working in IT for a 100 employee firm, and I can guarantee you how often the office machines just goes "oh god, that damn thing just died."
    Death have been mostly attributed to hard drives, but other hardware failed unexpectedly. There was one machine's capacitors were leaking and causing Funky Problems(TM), and an IBM ThinkPad R32 with a battery that crashes Windows, while without the battery, the machine crashes a lot less - which then I found that one of the pieces of RAM was bad and removed it.
    Yeah budget enough so that you can replace things when "oh god, that damn thing just died". Thank god we haven't have one for our servers... oh wait, I hope I didn't just jinxed it.

  115. CRT's can be adjusted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I spent a little time volunteering in a computer recycling charity.

    We got lots of CRTs that worked fine but were a little dim or a little off focus.

    Guess what? It takes about two minutes to open the case and another couple to adjusted the screws for focus and brightness.

    Sadly I was told "under no circumstances do this for yourself" (high voltage kills, kids!) ... but I've never been good at listening to authority figures. It took me a couple of hours to get this down - granted I didn't have the bit of paper, but it suprised me that all the qualified technicians at the (big) firms we got the stuff from couldn't /wouldn't do that.

    Hey-ho.

  116. the best advice I can give by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What you're asking is some very rudimentary stuff. The fact that you're asking such basic questions suggests that you are taking on a task for which you aren't prepared. I suggest you get a consulting firm to help you.
    Having said that, there's a whole bunch of things you need to look at; incremental rate of return, establishing your minimum acceptable rate of return, managing risk, the time value of your money, the payback period, your financial ratios, etc. etc. etc.
    There are experts who specialize in just this kind of thing. The worse thing anyone could do for you is lead you to believe that a few posts on slashdot have left you prepared to sink your good money into a project when you don't know how to manage it.

  117. Re:I'm in the same type of position and industry.. by Camarones · · Score: 1

    Yeah, that's exactly why they did it. But EOL doesn't always mean the end of use. Just look at Windows NT... If it works, and its paid for, and it still runs on current hardware, and the new stuff out there doesn't offer serious productivity gains, and you're operating in a closed security environment, then why upgrade? That's how they see it, and to a certain degree I can't argue with that.

    I just used AutoCAD as an example, but there are a lot of other software packages that clients use that don't get upgraded 'just because'. Project 2000 is one of them. When the upgrades happen, though, they happen fast. Unfortunately for us the clients, being large corporations, usually have massive software licensing discounts available to them that we do not, so they move fast and far (like the Acad2000 to 2006 jump). Luckily we beat them to it by a few months.

  118. Must be an accounting firm .. by brainchill · · Score: 1

    Those accountants can never get to many figures.

  119. Why does a 20 person firm need an IT Mgr? by cmdrwhitewolf · · Score: 1

    I disagree with that reply. Because I've helped put together some business startups that began with LESS people than that, and helped guide them in the *right* directions for building out their businesses. Each of these firms hired me for exactly that skillset which they lacked in their other people, and they were fortunate enough to realize beforehand that the cost of OUTSOURCING their computer expertise needs to a joe schmoe IT shop that doesn't give a rat's rear end about their business's long term survival is far higher.

    I've seen many small firms slowly burn up on the vine when they fail to have someone on their staff watching out for the companies interests when the joe schmoe IT shops comes back regularly upselling their latest 'promotion of the month' to them. Besides, anyone who tries running a small business without such a person on staff is also running the risk of making many very costly IT mistakes, because not all IT shops have the required expertise for every computer project. (Would you feel safe betting your business's first SQL database server on a IT shop that has never attempted an SQL server install before?) This particularly applies to the outlying rural areas, where really good techs come few and far between.

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  120. Thank you! by tirthas · · Score: 1

    Thank you to everyone who replied--your answers (the serious ones) were extremely valuable. And I definitely got a laugh out of the others.

  121. But you can plan for that.... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    I don't remember much about my accounting classes but that sounds like a typical case of depreciation (I most likely am wrong, can somebody correct me :-) ).

    The software is 6 years old, somewhere it should have been budgeted money for a possible update. It is not like it would have come out of the blue.

    If you don't have to upgrade then you are under budget! (and depending on the situation you may be able to spend that money elsewhere, but the point is that this kind of "intempestive" upgrades can be expected using educated guesses).

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  122. Student Architecture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I studied civil engineer in architecture (One year only, I'm switching to CS). I really don't like to spend money, so I did my best to keep it cheap. This is what I used:
    • An amd64 3000+ laptop (acer aspire1511LMi)
    • GNU/Linux (gentoo in my case, but debian will certainly do too :-))
    • qCAD (autoCAD clone (not too good actually, but you can write an alternative pretty easy, I expect new oss alternatives in the next 3 years. If not, I will make them myself))
    • blender (You have to SELL the product, blender is a perfect way of showing off what you have made (a foss product that combines qCAD and blender will probably be available within 3 years (this too, is in my own development)
    • The Gimp for image editing, I really used it a lot to convince people of my idea (you can't further develop something that is not accepted by your clients (or teachers in my case))


    This is how I made trough, as you see, the software side is about free (qCAD does cost some money in commercial form, and I guess that version will work better too (I'm not sure)).

    The acer laptop won't suffice your needs if you wish to render with blender, you will have to wait some time with all the reflections etc. Therefore I suggest a minor render farm, 3 amd64 3800+ machines in it will give you a very good productivity (those render pcs don't need a good GPU in it, since that isn't really used. RAM: 256Mb ram will even suffice, 1024Mb if you tend to put extreme detail in your houses). Please note that this render farm is not really expensive, you don't need the screens etc for it. But if you'd really want, you could use them to design on too...
    I advise you to give the architects a bad laptop, with a good screen on it. You really don't need a fancy machine for it, the amd64 is extremely good if you compile qCAD for it, it really does give a decent performance gain.

    Then again, at the end, you will still have to design the houses, 'cause that's what it is all about.