I know there's room for 21 different fingerprints, but I wonder how many end users are going to think to register more than one of their fingers...just in case.
21 fingerprint slots, eh? That's enough for all my fingers and all my toes with one leftover. What's the 21st one for?
Yep, I was an old subscriber too. My usual way of using the service was to forget about it for a month or two, and then binge for a couple of days and download a few dozen albums. Often times I would download bands I had never heard, never heard of, and really had no idea if I would like them. I'd download stuff just because the name of the band/album was cool. Or it was on the same label as something else I liked. Some of the stuff I ended up really liking. Other stuff I never even bothered to keep. But their new model doesn't fit with how I actually used the service. Oh well, their loss.
I just wish people with that much determination would concentrate on fixing the bugs, instead of exploiting them... so much wasted talent.
What we really need is a web page summarizing all the recent bugs in media decoding (mpg123 I think just had one) as a "how not to program" guide and then make it mandatory reading to get a sourceforge account. I think it's great folks are out looking for these bugs, but it's an embarrasement that there are this many being found so quickly. To me that indicates that there are a crapload of them out there.
It makes me want to go on vacation for six months and do one upgrade when I get back. Instead of doing one a day for the next six months.
I'm not sure about how using a.forward file (or a procmail forwarding rule) is forging.
Because your main account sends an email to your web account which is structured to appear to be from the original sender. But the original sender didn't send it. You did. The fact that it works is based on your web account accepting an email from you which has somebody else's name in the From: header. Yes, it might be an exact copy of the original email but the web provider has no way of knowing that. So perhaps "forgery" isn't the right word. It's more like impersonation.
Yes, that's true. But what we think of as "forwarding" is really "forging". After all, if I send you an email why should you be able to re-send it to somebody pretending to be me? That's forging my name on it. If you want to forward an email, you can damn well put your name in the From: field. After all, it's from you isn't it? I certainly didn't forward it to the person. Why should the headers say I did?
The fact that we've come to rely on easy forgery for some email applications is no reason to not fix the problem. Mailing lists of course have a similar problem, but there is no reason why email from an email list shouldn't have the email list itself as the sender. It's just convention to do otherwise.
Do you really want the government to say that your thoughts MUST be shared with someone else? That sounds almost like a form of Mind control/Mind reading.
Sorry, count me out.
Wow, that's an impressive straw man argument. Somebody here is advocating the goverment mandating mind-reading of everybody's thoughts so they can be shared?
I'll make you a deal, you can have full rights to your thoughts as long as you keep them to yourself. If you choose to share your thoughts, please don't come crying that you don't like what people are doing with the thoughts you shared.
karma risk: Not to troll but it seems to be and urban vs rural difference. Excuse me for any stereotypes.
I've lived in rural and urban areas and it is my general observation. (Living in rural now)
I think you're right. You only have to look at a map of what states lean what way to figure it out. But it's not the only factor, otherwise the Republicans would be facing their doom because urban is growing at the expense of rural. But I think one of the wild cards here is suburban, which tends to even things out. I suspect overall suburban areas are fairly evenly split, even though any given suburb may very well have a leaning one way or the other
Whatever. I find it mind boggling that anybody could stand up and defend lying in a news broadcast. Note I'm not talking about including information whose truth is unknown. I'm talking about knowingly lying. But obviously you're pretty comfortable with the lies your being told, so enjoy your fantasy land.
When the reporters took it upon themselves to only show one side they stopped reporting news and started reporting opinion.
The reporters objected to including information they knew to be false. Since when is repeating known falsehoods "reporting"? What Fox did was reprehensible. When a "news" organization fires people for refusing to air known falsehoods, thats a problem.
I'm glad someone stood up to them, even if Monsanto Corporation was wrong. Because that is the job of the people viewing the report to decide, not the reporters.
How am I suppose to come to any sort of judgement about a story if the reporters are compelled to include known falsehoods? The only judgement I can make is that a network that airs such drivel is not newsworthy. But it explains how they get away with calling themselves "Fair and balanced". After all, the truth doesn't mean much to Fox.
Seems that Fox editors wanted some reporters to include some statements from the "Monsanto Corporation" in a story that was negative towards them. The reporters refused and were fired. The statements may or may not have been false, but isn't that for the people watching the story to decide? Isn't not including them censorship?
Did you read the article? Let me refresh your memory:
she refused to broadcast (in the jury's words) "a false, distorted or slanted story" about the widespread use of BGH in dairy cows.
Catch that part about "in the jury's words"? Note the use of quotation marks? Do you still think the statements "may or may not have been false"? Still not convinced? Here's another refresher from the story:
Fox attorneys did not dispute Akre?s claim that they pressured her to broadcast a false story, they simply maintained that it was their right to do so.
Did the authors of that list ever consider the facts that the Army has met and exceeding its recruiting goals
Yes, that's a nice feel-good PR piece from the Army. But if they are having such an easy time filling the ranks, why the stop-loss orders to prevent people from leaving?
(1) Every branch of the military is meeting or exceeding recruitment and re-enlistment goals (unlike in the 1990s).
Do you have any reference for that? Because I can find plenty saying the opposite. And in fact detailing the "stop-loss" orders being used to keep current troops in past their obligations.
Let's just start sending C&D letters to the RIAA. Or more specifically their ISP which seems to be Verizon (ironic, eh?)
After all. I have a copyrighted image file named logo2.gif. Coincidentally, the RIAA seems to be hosting that very image. At least as far as I can tell, right? The filename matches, and I certainly can't be bothered to compare the contents of the file. Just fire off a letter! Damn, I just did some more checking. The FBI stole my banner and put it at http://www.fbi.gov/homeimag/banner.jpg. Bastards! I better send off a letter to their ISP as well!
Maybe for your stuff. I speak as an end user, and I can count at least three major java products we have that are cross-platform (or cross-JVM) for shit. Your stuff all works? Great! But in reality lots of major products don't. Installing a full JRE for each application seems to be a common-place solution for a lot of Java developers. All the spin Sun want's to put on it doesn't change the fact that it's a PITA to deploy Java applications and get them to work reliably.
And C/C++ doesn't? What language has only one GUI API??
Most languages have multiple GUI API's, but that isn't necessarily a strength. Java was aiming for true write once, run anywhere. But by coming out with multiple GUI API's, Sun has only managed to further fragment it's own platform.
I personally love Python. I only use it under Linux, but that's just me. What are you using for a GUI toolkit? wxPython? I've been using PyQt but I'm not sure how easy it would be to actually get that running under Windows.
Now if I can just convince Cisco, HP, Remedy, etc. to drop their crappy Java interfaces and write in Python.
Bingo. That's why I hate it. The whole "platform independence" is pretty much a load of crap in Java. Yes, in theory, it's there. In practice, all of the real Java apps I end up having to deal with require some specific runtime. Then I fight with CLASSPATH stuff.
I understand that truly cross-platform programs are a difficult problem. But that doesn't change the fact that Java is pretty bad at it. And don't even get me started on the fact it has multiple GUI API's.
I'm sorry, but "rich" web content basically equates to "insecure" from what I can tell. The more dynamic and powerful you make downloaded code, the harder it is to keep it in check.
Save the "rich" content for some separate application-oriented protocol and leave it out of HTML. That way I can download and run some sort of OS-independent application (the goal) from a trusted site when I need to, and don't have to worry about Joe-random web site abusing it. Surfing the web and running some site-specific application are two distinct tasks with quite different security requirements. I wish folks would stop mixing them, as the problems caused are only going to get worse IMHO.
By this judge's logic, it's legal to tap a phone conversation as long as you don't actually capture it on the "wire"? Does he even realize that his phone calls are only one the "wire" for the first thousand feet or so from his house to the CO? Where it's promptly digitized into RAM? And as it flows thru the ATM network it's stored in RAM temporarily in every switch it passes thru? So if I somehow get access to an ATM switch carrying phone traffic and convince it to cram an OC-3 worth of voice out a monitor port that's all legal? This judge got snookered plain and simple.
It's purely conflict of interest. The U.S. Patent Office makes money with each patent it grants. Even the application fee alone is substantial. Therefore, there is no economic incentive for the Patent Office to deny patents, no matter how dubious they are.
While I enjoy blaming the gubment as much as anybody, in this case I think you need to look at the lawyers. Who approves all the bogus and conflicting patents which lead to costly lawsuits? The USPTO. Who is the largest employer of intellectual property lawyers, according to the ABA? The USPTO. And who gets rich from the lawsuits? The lawyers. Coincidence? I don't think so.
The IP lawyers have basically managed to install themselves like little royalty who you have to tithe to in order to work in the software field. Because the sad fact is that software patents have basically made it illegal to write software without paying a lawyer to approve it, at least in the US. Hopefully we can keep getting away with it (until the lawyers get too greedy.)
MS funded ziff davis magazines and they wanted to applease MS so they ran negative stories on os/2 and positive ones from Microsoft to keep money rolling in.
Well, let me know when Linux Today starts running anti-Linux pro-Microsoft stories.
Agreed. I think it's great that Microsoft likes to support pro-Linux magazines and web sites. Everytime I see one I chuckle to myself. "Suckers. No one here is going to be swayed by your ad, but thanks for spending the money anyway!" If anything, Microsoft's need to advertise in Linux channels helps legitimize Linux (as though that hasn't already been done.)
Which is why the experiments should more accurately be called "quantum duplication" or some such. I really don't know why the quantum folks decided to start using the word "teleport" to mean something different than what everyone else understands it to mean.
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I know there's room for 21 different fingerprints, but I wonder how many end users are going to think to register more than one of their fingers...just in case.
21 fingerprint slots, eh? That's enough for all my fingers and all my toes with one leftover. What's the 21st one for?
Yep, I was an old subscriber too. My usual way of using the service was to forget about it for a month or two, and then binge for a couple of days and download a few dozen albums. Often times I would download bands I had never heard, never heard of, and really had no idea if I would like them. I'd download stuff just because the name of the band/album was cool. Or it was on the same label as something else I liked. Some of the stuff I ended up really liking. Other stuff I never even bothered to keep. But their new model doesn't fit with how I actually used the service. Oh well, their loss.
I just wish people with that much determination would concentrate on fixing the bugs, instead of exploiting them ... so much wasted talent.
What we really need is a web page summarizing all the recent bugs in media decoding (mpg123 I think just had one) as a "how not to program" guide and then make it mandatory reading to get a sourceforge account. I think it's great folks are out looking for these bugs, but it's an embarrasement that there are this many being found so quickly. To me that indicates that there are a crapload of them out there.
It makes me want to go on vacation for six months and do one upgrade when I get back. Instead of doing one a day for the next six months.
I'm not sure about how using a .forward file (or a procmail forwarding rule) is forging.
Because your main account sends an email to your web account which is structured to appear to be from the original sender. But the original sender didn't send it. You did. The fact that it works is based on your web account accepting an email from you which has somebody else's name in the From: header. Yes, it might be an exact copy of the original email but the web provider has no way of knowing that. So perhaps "forgery" isn't the right word. It's more like impersonation.
SPF Breaks Forwarding.
Yes, that's true. But what we think of as "forwarding" is really "forging". After all, if I send you an email why should you be able to re-send it to somebody pretending to be me? That's forging my name on it. If you want to forward an email, you can damn well put your name in the From: field. After all, it's from you isn't it? I certainly didn't forward it to the person. Why should the headers say I did?
The fact that we've come to rely on easy forgery for some email applications is no reason to not fix the problem. Mailing lists of course have a similar problem, but there is no reason why email from an email list shouldn't have the email list itself as the sender. It's just convention to do otherwise.
Do you really want the government to say that your thoughts MUST be shared with someone else? That sounds almost like a form of Mind control/Mind reading.
Sorry, count me out.
Wow, that's an impressive straw man argument. Somebody here is advocating the goverment mandating mind-reading of everybody's thoughts so they can be shared?
I'll make you a deal, you can have full rights to your thoughts as long as you keep them to yourself. If you choose to share your thoughts, please don't come crying that you don't like what people are doing with the thoughts you shared.
karma risk: Not to troll but it seems to be and urban vs rural difference. Excuse me for any stereotypes.
I've lived in rural and urban areas and it is my general observation. (Living in rural now)
I think you're right. You only have to look at a map of what states lean what way to figure it out. But it's not the only factor, otherwise the Republicans would be facing their doom because urban is growing at the expense of rural. But I think one of the wild cards here is suburban, which tends to even things out. I suspect overall suburban areas are fairly evenly split, even though any given suburb may very well have a leaning one way or the other
Whatever. I find it mind boggling that anybody could stand up and defend lying in a news broadcast. Note I'm not talking about including information whose truth is unknown. I'm talking about knowingly lying. But obviously you're pretty comfortable with the lies your being told, so enjoy your fantasy land.
When the reporters took it upon themselves to only show one side they stopped reporting news and started reporting opinion.
The reporters objected to including information they knew to be false. Since when is repeating known falsehoods "reporting"? What Fox did was reprehensible. When a "news" organization fires people for refusing to air known falsehoods, thats a problem.
I'm glad someone stood up to them, even if Monsanto Corporation was wrong. Because that is the job of the people viewing the report to decide, not the reporters.
How am I suppose to come to any sort of judgement about a story if the reporters are compelled to include known falsehoods? The only judgement I can make is that a network that airs such drivel is not newsworthy. But it explains how they get away with calling themselves "Fair and balanced". After all, the truth doesn't mean much to Fox.
Seems that Fox editors wanted some reporters to include some statements from the "Monsanto Corporation" in a story that was negative towards them. The reporters refused and were fired. The statements may or may not have been false, but isn't that for the people watching the story to decide? Isn't not including them censorship?
Did you read the article? Let me refresh your memory:
she refused to broadcast (in the jury's words) "a false, distorted or slanted story" about the widespread use of BGH in dairy cows.
Catch that part about "in the jury's words"? Note the use of quotation marks? Do you still think the statements "may or may not have been false"? Still not convinced? Here's another refresher from the story:
Fox attorneys did not dispute Akre?s claim that they pressured her to broadcast a false story, they simply maintained that it was their right to do so.
Did the authors of that list ever consider the facts that the Army has met and exceeding its recruiting goals
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Yes, that's a nice feel-good PR piece from the Army. But if they are having such an easy time filling the ranks, why the stop-loss orders to prevent people from leaving?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-01-05-
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2
http://www.msnbc.msn.co
(1) Every branch of the military is meeting or exceeding recruitment and re-enlistment goals (unlike in the 1990s).
Do you have any reference for that? Because I can find plenty saying the opposite. And in fact detailing the "stop-loss" orders being used to keep current troops in past their obligations.
Clinton made the military a 'not nice' place to be. Failed campains (Somalia) enforced this.
For the record, George Bush sent troops to Somalia. Not Clinton.
Let's just start sending C&D letters to the RIAA. Or more specifically their ISP which seems to be Verizon (ironic, eh?)
After all. I have a copyrighted image file named logo2.gif. Coincidentally, the RIAA seems to be hosting that very image. At least as far as I can tell, right? The filename matches, and I certainly can't be bothered to compare the contents of the file. Just fire off a letter! Damn, I just did some more checking. The FBI stole my banner and put it at http://www.fbi.gov/homeimag/banner.jpg. Bastards! I better send off a letter to their ISP as well!
1. 7.2 inches is wide? In what universe?? The article blurb ends with gushing praise.
The resolution is 1280x768, making it a "wide screen" format. Had they said 'It has a wide 7.2" screen' you would have been spot on though.
It just works -- yes, in reality too.
Maybe for your stuff. I speak as an end user, and I can count at least three major java products we have that are cross-platform (or cross-JVM) for shit. Your stuff all works? Great! But in reality lots of major products don't. Installing a full JRE for each application seems to be a common-place solution for a lot of Java developers. All the spin Sun want's to put on it doesn't change the fact that it's a PITA to deploy Java applications and get them to work reliably.
And C/C++ doesn't? What language has only one GUI API??
Most languages have multiple GUI API's, but that isn't necessarily a strength. Java was aiming for true write once, run anywhere. But by coming out with multiple GUI API's, Sun has only managed to further fragment it's own platform.
I personally love Python. I only use it under Linux, but that's just me. What are you using for a GUI toolkit? wxPython? I've been using PyQt but I'm not sure how easy it would be to actually get that running under Windows.
Now if I can just convince Cisco, HP, Remedy, etc. to drop their crappy Java interfaces and write in Python.
Bingo. That's why I hate it. The whole "platform independence" is pretty much a load of crap in Java. Yes, in theory, it's there. In practice, all of the real Java apps I end up having to deal with require some specific runtime. Then I fight with CLASSPATH stuff.
I understand that truly cross-platform programs are a difficult problem. But that doesn't change the fact that Java is pretty bad at it. And don't even get me started on the fact it has multiple GUI API's.
Mozilla and others work to make their browsers just as insecure as IE:
Browser Plug-in Standard
I'm sorry, but "rich" web content basically equates to "insecure" from what I can tell. The more dynamic and powerful you make downloaded code, the harder it is to keep it in check.
Save the "rich" content for some separate application-oriented protocol and leave it out of HTML. That way I can download and run some sort of OS-independent application (the goal) from a trusted site when I need to, and don't have to worry about Joe-random web site abusing it. Surfing the web and running some site-specific application are two distinct tasks with quite different security requirements. I wish folks would stop mixing them, as the problems caused are only going to get worse IMHO.
By this judge's logic, it's legal to tap a phone conversation as long as you don't actually capture it on the "wire"? Does he even realize that his phone calls are only one the "wire" for the first thousand feet or so from his house to the CO? Where it's promptly digitized into RAM? And as it flows thru the ATM network it's stored in RAM temporarily in every switch it passes thru? So if I somehow get access to an ATM switch carrying phone traffic and convince it to cram an OC-3 worth of voice out a monitor port that's all legal? This judge got snookered plain and simple.
It's purely conflict of interest. The U.S. Patent Office makes money with each patent it grants. Even the application fee alone is substantial. Therefore, there is no economic incentive for the Patent Office to deny patents, no matter how dubious they are.
While I enjoy blaming the gubment as much as anybody, in this case I think you need to look at the lawyers. Who approves all the bogus and conflicting patents which lead to costly lawsuits? The USPTO. Who is the largest employer of intellectual property lawyers, according to the ABA? The USPTO. And who gets rich from the lawsuits? The lawyers. Coincidence? I don't think so.
The IP lawyers have basically managed to install themselves like little royalty who you have to tithe to in order to work in the software field. Because the sad fact is that software patents have basically made it illegal to write software without paying a lawyer to approve it, at least in the US. Hopefully we can keep getting away with it (until the lawyers get too greedy.)
MS funded ziff davis magazines and they wanted to applease MS so they ran negative stories on os/2 and positive ones from Microsoft to keep money rolling in.
Well, let me know when Linux Today starts running anti-Linux pro-Microsoft stories.
Agreed. I think it's great that Microsoft likes to support pro-Linux magazines and web sites. Everytime I see one I chuckle to myself. "Suckers. No one here is going to be swayed by your ad, but thanks for spending the money anyway!" If anything, Microsoft's need to advertise in Linux channels helps legitimize Linux (as though that hasn't already been done.)
Which is why the experiments should more accurately be called "quantum duplication" or some such. I really don't know why the quantum folks decided to start using the word "teleport" to mean something different than what everyone else understands it to mean.