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Dude read the Findings of Fact. You are a Paid M$ Troll. Why don't you go off and start your own technical news forum. How much money did you lose today? Gotta get out of that stock...
Well Well it is official. Bill Gates is a Monopolist and Microsoft has an Illegal monopoly. Their stock dropped 13% today - more tomorrow. Thay have No products that coherently run a big web server on any big iron. They are history. I sold my stock 3 months ago. I suggest you sell yours soon.
I use Alphas in realtime applications and they ROCK! The application is Not embedded nor is the environment harsh but it is RealTime. An Intel Pentium III/800 has a Specfp95 of 19.8 An Alpha 21264/750 has a Specfp95 of 74! Alphas just smoke the competition in float.
Alphas are selling like fire! Just try to buy one right now. There are 1-2 week backlogs. Everyone needing fast float is using them both standalone and in Beowolf Clusters. Run Linux on it and use Compaq's 'ccc' compiler (ported to linux from True64). Wintel cannot touch this combination with a 20 foot pole. Too bad that M$ can't compete anymore using this platform.
You are right. NT is dead on Alphas. It is also dead on Intel, AMD and MIPS. Real machines deserver a real OS! Try running Linux on your Alphas it Rocks.
I sold my MSFT months ago. Honorable judge Thomas Penfield Jackson has had it with that monopolist Bill Gates. I would not be surprised to see Bill found in comtempt given his statements in his deposition.
If you read the Findings of Fact by the Honorable Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson, you will note that Micro$oft used that integration to crush Netscape by leveraging its Monopoly in the OS distribution channel. It is a Fact. The Judge said so.
And Maritz's quote:
'The major reason for this is . . . to combat Nscp, we have to [] position the browser as "going away" and do deeper integration on Windows. The stronger way to communicate this is to have a 'new release' of Windows and make a big deal out of it. . . . IE integration will be [the] most compelling feature of Memphis.'
Hey Wormy, Read the Findings of Fact. Microsoft is an Illegal Monopoly. Get over it. (Or get another job... you don't want to be the last rat off the good ship micro$oft.)
The party is not over until the Judge (and the appeals process) says it is. Microsoft is an Illegal Monopoly that much is fact. The *nix desktop is alive and well it was just hampered a bit by the Monopolist Bill Gates. Now that the emporer's clothes (I mean Bill's) are coming off and the world is getting a glimpse of the real Micro$oft - thanks in part to all that free press the DOJ is providing - People are looking to alternatives to the buggy solutions they have been stuck with. Linux is happy to fill in here. You gotta like the economic model too!
Try using photoshop on a gif of a hires 24bit scanned negative on w95 or w98. Now, resize the gif using interpolation. Do that 10 times. If you can make it that far...
I Wish gcc was as fast as ccc. But it isn't. I need fast float. Alpha has it. Compaq made it available for free to us on Linux. I am not complaining. I would guess that gcc will catch up. For now I would like to Thank Compaq for making ccc available to me on Alpha Linux for free. And, in kind, I am sure Compaq is thankfull for my purchases...
Improving gcc Is probably enticing for the hardware manufactures - to sell their architecture. If I can get a 2x improvement in performance through hardware optimization in ccc then it is in their best interest to make gcc fast as possible on their architecture. I wish the whole distro was compiled with ccc's speed.
I grabbed Compaq's ccc compiler for Linux/Alpha just 2 days ago. It was indeed 2x faster float than what gcc could give. Integer performance will be 10 - 30% better. Get the Compaq Linux Alpha compiler Here.
I thind we should tell it to the Judge! Just in the form of an open letter. The games continue! The Monopolist is Still behaving badly.
Oh Well. Our company has 1 application left that runs on NT. And it is a 3rd party app. We have put that 3rd party on notice that we will not be using any new versions of Windows in the future and they have a Linuxified version of this service in test... Just like IBM in the early 80s. You just have to be diligent. Don't use M$ products for your IT solutions.
Look at Lucent WaveLan IEEE pcmcia drivers. You can get one that is GPL (in source) but lacks support for all features of the card (gold version w/ 128bit encryption running at the full 11Mbps). Or you can get one that is binary with a GPL'd source wrapper acting as a go-between between the proprietary product and the GPL'd OS.
The latter is Not bundled AFAIK with any distribution but must be obtained directly from Lucent's website. But the latter driver does support all the features of the card. It seems that here Lucent decided to cover their arses by writing a wrapper to their proprietary bit that was source GPL talking to the pcmcia_cs and the kernel.
So, which is right? Just including a binary or do you Need to write a wrapper?
my 4 and 5 year old kids dig it. They got my wife addicted. Then I could linuxify the imac 8-) Supposedly it is now shareware and partially open source but with a severely restricted license.
I am running Linux-Mandrake 6.1 on my ThinkPad 600. It is just that there is no usable sound. I bought a Thinkpad without the DSP based proprietary modem that all the other thinkpads are crippled with.
APM - forget it. - No wait, you can get APM working but you have to leap tall buildings with a single bound to do it.
I have not tried the iRDA or USB ports (is there a usb port on it?).
Hot swap floppy? Anyone? Anyone? I did not have any success with that. I have been running Linux on notebooks since '95 and am used to jumping through hoops to do it (debian with floppies on a gateway nomad amd 486!).
When I do get sound working the signal level is remarkably anemic. And no, Booting Linux from DOS to get the sound driver loaded is just not an option.
GPS Systems can transmit too. Typical cheap handheld gps receivers don't transmit but military and industrial receivers do (to LEO and littleLEO sattelites). For example, want to know where your trainload of lettuce is sidelined? Simple, drop a gps monitor into one of the freighters. (Note: Does require antennae placement outside of fridgerated boxcar.)
GM also has a system that is capable of transmitting from Cadillacs TODAY. It is called OnStar. Read about it. It can transmit your location and it does its transmitting via cell phone. If your air bags deploy the car phones your car's lat/lon into a GM control center. The technology is real and here today. There is another feature going into cars today - A flash ram chip that maintains driving data (speed, rpm, braking, etc) so that if the car is in a collision the cops and insurance companies can figure out who to blame...
Yes and back to the comment "comparing these two processors just isin't as exciting...because they don't run the same software" - no but there are metrics you can measure - ie float and int performance and someone has already done the work for you in SpecInt95 SpecFlt benchmarks.
Now, I am too tired from the weekend (partying Friday night and working early Saturday morning - y2k testing) to chase the links and give you the exact comparisons between the fastest of each chip or MHZ comparisons but someone has already done the testing and they can be easily found with a web search.
NPR has a web site. How about some Polite letters of concern to morning edition (morning@npr.org) or All Things Considered (atc@npr.org) or Talk of The Nation (totn@npr.org) concerning Fair Coverage of this most important Free Speech issue. My email is going to Talk of the Nation with copies ot the other 2 explaining the smearing of the issue by the DVD Consortium.
AMD can put out crap as well. I have several K6-200s that can't compile the kernel without crashing 10-20% of the time. Something about mem management.
Somewhere down the road these companies need to make some coin. WP is a product that can do that. RH could still give out the stripped down version for free but continue to charge for the full blown kit. Enough people are sick of windowsX crashing while they are in the middle of their work that they will try anything.
Thanksgiving dinner: Cousin Linda sits across the table from me. I tell her about Linux. She complains about Windows 98 crashing on her while trying to edit some graphics. I offer her a Free copy of Linux-Mandrake and assistance installing it. She gets excited and starts to beg for help - pulling out her business card faster than I can wipe the dressing off my lip. I mailed the disk yesterday with a note pointing to the web page and suggesting some books (McMillan et al). When she calls me I will help her get it installed and connected to the web. And she will be just as happy the rest of my New Linux Converts (NLCs) (tm).
Cheers to the new millenium and the new technology order! Dan
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Dude read the Findings of Fact. You are a Paid M$ Troll. Why don't you go off and start your own technical news forum. How much money did you lose today? Gotta get out of that stock...
Well Well it is official. Bill Gates is a Monopolist and Microsoft has an Illegal monopoly. Their stock dropped 13% today - more tomorrow. Thay have No products that coherently run a big web server on any big iron. They are history. I sold my stock 3 months ago. I suggest you sell yours soon.
Cheers,
Dan
I use Alphas in realtime applications and they ROCK! The application is Not embedded nor is the environment harsh but it is RealTime. An Intel Pentium III/800 has a Specfp95 of 19.8 An Alpha 21264/750 has a Specfp95 of 74! Alphas just smoke the competition in float.
Alphas are selling like fire! Just try to buy one right now. There are 1-2 week backlogs. Everyone needing fast float is using them both standalone and in Beowolf Clusters. Run Linux on it and use Compaq's 'ccc' compiler (ported to linux from True64). Wintel cannot touch this combination with a 20 foot pole. Too bad that M$ can't compete anymore using this platform.
You are right. NT is dead on Alphas. It is also dead on Intel, AMD and MIPS. Real machines deserver a real OS! Try running Linux on your Alphas it Rocks.
I sold my MSFT months ago. Honorable judge Thomas Penfield Jackson has had it with that monopolist Bill Gates. I would not be surprised to see Bill found in comtempt given his statements in his deposition.
And Maritz's quote:
'The major reason for this is . . . to combat Nscp, we have to [] position the browser as "going away" and do deeper integration on Windows. The stronger way to communicate this is to have a 'new release' of Windows and make a big deal out of it. . . . IE integration will be [the] most compelling feature of Memphis.'
Confirms Micro$oft's true Monopolistic, illegal intentions.
Hey Wormy, Read the Findings of Fact. Microsoft is an Illegal Monopoly. Get over it. (Or get another job... you don't want to be the last rat off the good ship micro$oft.)
The party is not over until the Judge (and the appeals process) says it is. Microsoft is an Illegal Monopoly that much is fact. The *nix desktop is alive and well it was just hampered a bit by the Monopolist Bill Gates. Now that the emporer's clothes (I mean Bill's) are coming off and the world is getting a glimpse of the real Micro$oft - thanks in part to all that free press the DOJ is providing - People are looking to alternatives to the buggy solutions they have been stuck with. Linux is happy to fill in here. You gotta like the economic model too!
Try using photoshop on a gif of a hires 24bit scanned negative on w95 or w98. Now, resize the gif using interpolation. Do that 10 times. If you can make it that far...
Vaporware everywhere!
I Wish gcc was as fast as ccc. But it isn't. I need fast float. Alpha has it. Compaq made it available for free to us on Linux. I am not complaining. I would guess that gcc will catch up. For now I would like to Thank Compaq for making ccc available to me on Alpha Linux for free. And, in kind, I am sure Compaq is thankfull for my purchases...
Improving gcc Is probably enticing for the hardware manufactures - to sell their architecture. If I can get a 2x improvement in performance through hardware optimization in ccc then it is in their best interest to make gcc fast as possible on their architecture. I wish the whole distro was compiled with ccc's speed.
I grabbed Compaq's ccc compiler for Linux/Alpha just 2 days ago. It was indeed 2x faster float than what gcc could give. Integer performance will be 10 - 30% better. Get the Compaq Linux Alpha compiler Here.
I got 'em. I used wget. It took 3 or 4 tries to connect then got through. Try wget it is awesome!
Please moderate the above post down. Sorry but it is offtopic and if you know anyone with MS it is just not funny.
I thind we should tell it to the Judge! Just in the form of an open letter. The games continue! The Monopolist is Still behaving badly.
Oh Well. Our company has 1 application left that runs on NT. And it is a 3rd party app. We have put that 3rd party on notice that we will not be using any new versions of Windows in the future and they have a Linuxified version of this service in test... Just like IBM in the early 80s. You just have to be diligent. Don't use M$ products for your IT solutions.
Look at Lucent WaveLan IEEE pcmcia drivers. You can get one that is GPL (in source) but lacks support for all features of the card (gold version w/ 128bit encryption running at the full 11Mbps). Or you can get one that is binary with a GPL'd source wrapper acting as a go-between between the proprietary product and the GPL'd OS.
The latter is Not bundled AFAIK with any distribution but must be obtained directly from Lucent's website. But the latter driver does support all the features of the card. It seems that here Lucent decided to cover their arses by writing a wrapper to their proprietary bit that was source GPL talking to the pcmcia_cs and the kernel.
So, which is right? Just including a binary or do you Need to write a wrapper?
NANOSAUR!
my 4 and 5 year old kids dig it. They got my wife addicted. Then I could linuxify the imac 8-) Supposedly it is now shareware and partially open source but with a severely restricted license.
I am running Linux-Mandrake 6.1 on my ThinkPad 600. It is just that there is no usable sound. I bought a Thinkpad without the DSP based proprietary modem that all the other thinkpads are crippled with.
APM - forget it. - No wait, you can get APM working but you have to leap tall buildings with a single bound to do it.
I have not tried the iRDA or USB ports (is there a usb port on it?).
Hot swap floppy? Anyone? Anyone? I did not have any success with that. I have been running Linux on notebooks since '95 and am used to jumping through hoops to do it (debian with floppies on a gateway nomad amd 486!).
When I do get sound working the signal level is remarkably anemic. And no, Booting Linux from DOS to get the sound driver loaded is just not an option.
Please IBM? SUPPORT linux on ThinkPads. Please?
GM also has a system that is capable of transmitting from Cadillacs TODAY. It is called OnStar. Read about it. It can transmit your location and it does its transmitting via cell phone. If your air bags deploy the car phones your car's lat/lon into a GM control center. The technology is real and here today. There is another feature going into cars today - A flash ram chip that maintains driving data (speed, rpm, braking, etc) so that if the car is in a collision the cops and insurance companies can figure out who to blame...
Yes and back to the comment "comparing these two processors just isin't as exciting...because they don't run the same software" - no but there are metrics you can measure - ie float and int performance and someone has already done the work for you in SpecInt95 SpecFlt benchmarks.
Now, I am too tired from the weekend (partying Friday night and working early Saturday morning - y2k testing) to chase the links and give you the exact comparisons between the fastest of each chip or MHZ comparisons but someone has already done the testing and they can be easily found with a web search.
--cheers & happy new year!
Dan
NPR has a web site. How about some Polite letters of concern to morning edition (morning@npr.org) or All Things Considered (atc@npr.org) or Talk of The Nation (totn@npr.org) concerning Fair Coverage of this most important Free Speech issue. My email is going to Talk of the Nation with copies ot the other 2 explaining the smearing of the issue by the DVD Consortium.
AMD can put out crap as well. I have several K6-200s that can't compile the kernel without crashing 10-20% of the time. Something about mem management.
Somewhere down the road these companies need to make some coin. WP is a product that can do that. RH could still give out the stripped down version for free but continue to charge for the full blown kit. Enough people are sick of windowsX crashing while they are in the middle of their work that they will try anything.
Thanksgiving dinner: Cousin Linda sits across the table from me. I tell her about Linux. She complains about Windows 98 crashing on her while trying to edit some graphics. I offer her a Free copy of Linux-Mandrake and assistance installing it. She gets excited and starts to beg for help - pulling out her business card faster than I can wipe the dressing off my lip. I mailed the disk yesterday with a note pointing to the web page and suggesting some books (McMillan et al). When she calls me I will help her get it installed and connected to the web. And she will be just as happy the rest of my New Linux Converts (NLCs) (tm).
Cheers to the new millenium and the new technology order!
Dan