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Legos Meets Myth II
Noctavis writes "If you are heavily into Legos, then you should take a look at a new TC that'll be released soon. It's called Leggo II: Arena. (Gotta love the name ;-)It's the sequel to Leggo My Myth, which was released awhile ago. The best part? You penguin-heads out there can get Myth II for Linux, and both Mac and Wintel users can grab the Myth Codex (Myth, Myth II and a slew of third-party stuff) for only $15-20 now. " LokiSoft did the porting effort of MythII to Linux - it's a heckuva lotta fun to play. And this just looks cool beyond belief.
May I petrify you?
I thought it was Legi.
"Hooray for the English language!" But LEGO (ALWAYS all caps, ALWAYS an adjective) is DANISH! (Leg Godt ("Play Well") contracted to LEGO)
Yes, hooray for the english language and its wondrous variety. Why squeeze everything into your narrow conception of the language? English is the borg of languages - assimilating everything it encounters that it finds useful. As a result, it has a multitude of plural forms other than the simple "add s".
And it has nothing to do with whether it has latin roots or not. The rules for latin do not apply to English (cf split infinitives, which are impossible in latin, so deemed inappropriate in English).
Once a word is assimilated into English, its previous rules do not apply - we can decide to use any plural form we wish. Take 'radii' for example - we don't use that because it's correct in latin, we use it because the sound 'radiuses' is clumsy, and having such variety in our language gives us a cleaner option.
Frankly, I never knew people called them 'legos' until I started reading slashdot.
and who cares? there are plenty of other better, more current sites which have tons of Myth/Myth II information! go for it!
So by that logic, the word legamus should be used when there are multiple people playing with the lego, not when there are multiple blocks of lego being played with.
Ole Kirk Christiansen started his Lego toy company in Denmark in 1932. Lego means 'play well' in Danish. (leg godt). Later he discovered Lego in Latin means 'to put together'. I'm actually suprised there haven't been more pedantic Latin posts on a topic related to Bungie sotfware...
"LEGOS's" roll easier of the tounge than "LEGO bricks". In Scandinavia its a different matter as the terms "LEGO kloss/klosser" (meaning LEGO brick/bricks) come quite naturally.
Well, I wouldnt be suprised if it has a meaning in both Latin and Danish, you know, a clever "double meaning" kind of thing.
"leg" is not exactly "game", that would be "spill". "lege" is the noun form of play, wich I believe does not exist in english.
rigth on brother
...because it's been Slashdotted. Apparently Noctavis neglected to mention to his web site host that he was sending a note to Slashdot about the new mod, so the site is offline until the furor dies down. Try back in a few days.
idiots. You people probably never got past the Duplo set. The plural is definitely "Legi"
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:-) Load Balancing, have spare servers ready and then the load starts building, fire up the servers. You can make a deal with IBM where you first buy your RS/6000 the moment you turn it on. Ok, I am getting carried away, but it's just so much fun installing :-)
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VISTA JINN VISTA JINN lego is a map. maybe even a map collection. if you really want to reason to reinstall myth2, it's right here.
The plural of "lego" is "legos". Due to the idiocy of trademark law and of marketing morons, the marketers want you to use the singular as the plural. Don't.
There's no need to be that obedient. Fuck marketing! Hooray for the English language!
We've come damned close to the end of the road with this culture if people think "pedantic" means "self-righteously regurgitating television commercials".
And that's LEGO plural. I can't build my fun cars, stores, castles, or anything anymore! He ate all my duplo blocks, too!
Dumbass.
This is one of the best games i have ever played. Why isn't the myther.com page comming up?
read it. post to it.
because you want to, don't you? the glimmering URL becons you.
it's an "Evil Corporate Entity(tm)"
Don't change the subject. The simple fact is that marketing people, at the behest of legal departments, are asserting idiotic things about language and people are listening. Sorry, but that's just not tolerable. Kleenex and xerox are generic terms. Deal.
I like to keep in practice for Real People too.
Me, too. I make an exception for people who arrogantly assert falsehoods in public.
There is a BeOS port of Myth2 here. I think Yboocs is doing the port. Be is finally getting some games!
So, "Legos" is a plural, but "Hemos" is singular? I think not!
Yeah, and did you know the Liberal Media killed my puppy-dog?! My poor little puppy-dog, they killed him! It made me so sad.
That's why I joined Christian Identity.
Awesome. I never thought Be would get Myth2. This is awesome!
For all of you Mythers take a look at The Mill. It is the place to get 3rd party plugin's for Myth and Myth 2. And while you are there download The Wild West. =) Michael
This is neat. The arena really looks cool. Can't wait to play this one. Legos rock.
Shadowcaster - wishing he would get more karma for this post. :(
Idiot. Lego comes from the Danish, not Latin.
. . . not that those morons have advanced beyond Fisher-Price stuff
Seriously, this plural/Latin/Danish thread is the first time in months that I've seen anything on Slashdot (other than trolls) that actually held my interest.
Oh, wait: I'm forgetting the Stroustrup interview. That was interesting in a few spots. So it's the second interesting discussion on Slashdot this year.
MORON, people were speaking LATIN when ur Danish anscestors were still doing sheep and grubbing in the dirt. I am sure most of your relatives still are.....
Um, that's all I have to say.
What are you doing posting on Slashdot, Noc? Go back to the Halo forums! ;-)
Idiot. Lego comes from the Donut, not Danish. Sheesh, some people are dense...
Trolling for Scooby doo!
Are these mods/plugins compatible with both Windows and Linux versions, or do the mod makers have to compile bins for each side? Just curious as this site seems to be down for now, already. I think I read that Q3 uses some independant interpreter, so they are compatible. How does UT rank with this?
I have to say this is just a fantastic game, very happy it came to Linux! The WWII is incredibly addicting, the graphics are great, and the maps are well thought out. I snagged my copy of Myth2 for like $20 at the local game store, well worth it.
Just my $0.02 worth...
Thanks Loki for a great game!
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Basically you'd have lots of quakers and a couple of commanders who can see the whole battlefield from their command posts.
Note that it would be tough to get teams together on the fly. Unfortunately there are a whole lot of game "trolls", and you only need a few, who would join one side and then do their level best to hinder that side.
However, the clan concept might work well here. Each side in the battle would be a clan, so clanners presumably could rely on fellow clanners to play "right."
Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a real useful invention.
i didn't know it exists, i'll have to reinstall MythII one day to play with this :) I love Lego a lot, especially Technic, how and also i have the lego box number "1", pretty cool.
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Idiot. "Lego" actually comes from the Klingon le'Qo', meaning "building blocks of war".
(C'mon. If you're going to call someone an idiot, you damn well better back up your friggin' post with some facts. Maybe a page on InterLego's website?)
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Dan Quayle never said anything of the sort. He has said plenty of stupid stuff on his own, he doesn't need urban legends attributed to him.
Yeah, but no one is going to want to be the grunts. Given, people like being the grunts in Quake and Unreal, but then you're at least autonomous. What do you do when the higher-ups decide that you should be sacrificed for the good of the company? Some people might do that, more if they develop long-term relationships with the other people, but I bet most would mutiny and/or effect their own plan.
Perhaps you should ask any six year old. Just because they say the plural is "lego" doesn't make it so.
Yup -- check out the various discussions at:
http://www.lugnet.com/fun/gaming/
Now I'm *never* going to get any of that rewiring done on the house 8^D
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The Lego Arena II looks great. There are many different types of Myth II plugins out there - A World War II one exists with tanks and such and there is a Star Wars one also.
I have not tryed Lego My Myth yet (but will as soon as I have a copy) but this looks like a very nice plugin. I certianly like the description of the Jar Jar Binks Unit.
Description:
JarJar Binks
Only found in hunting (read: Stomp JarJar!)
Is it progress if a cannibal uses a fork?
Danish English
leg = game
lege = play
Danish is notoriously complex though, so it is possible that there is the word "Lego" in the language.
Now where did I put that stainless-steel hanky...
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And boy, how we need you!
Yer Fan,
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There's no need to be that obedient.
If the owner of the name doesn't want it to be used in a certain way (perhaps Richard doesn't like to be called Dick), it's a very small effort on my part to comply and make them happy. What a concept! Expending just a bit of effort in an attempt to lubricate the wheels of civility. Oh, yeah, I know, it's an "Evil Corporate Entity(tm)" but what the heck, I like to keep in practice for Real People too.
We've come damned close to the end of the road with this culture if people think "pedantic" means "self-righteously regurgitating television commercials".
We've come much closer if simple politeness is extinct.
Now where did I put that stainless-steel hanky...
I rather appreciate the fact that a toy that just about all of us loved when we were still in knee pants has made the transition to a pretty cool game that no fun-loving adult could be ashamed to play.
Personally, I would love to see a take on the "Barrel o' Monkeys" where the player controls a team of Navy Seal-like monkeys with an arsenal of hi-tech weaponry. Just a thought.
Also, is it just me, or does the Saiyan character closely resemble Goku from the Dragonball Z cartoon?
Wet.Mosaic
As fra as I know "Lego" is is a subtraction of the Danish sentence "Leg godt" wich means "Play well" (Can You say that in English?)
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That was so cool! I wish my populous disk still worked :(
The cake is a pie
The plural of Lego is Legamus. Lego comes from the Latin verb "I play". Legamus "we play" is the natural plural.
Maybe it just doesn't look as good on the box?
Then there was Noah Webster, who regarded the form of English spoken in the British Isles as having been corrupted by the English aristocracy. Webster worked with dogged determination to standardise and simplify the spelling of American English. He excised extraneous vowels: colour/color; favour, favor (although he resisted this change for quite a while in the face of Johnson's example). And he transposed letters, most notably the final -re: theatre/theater; centre/center. Some of his changes remain an integral part of American spelling, where others have failed to survive (croud, hed, giv, meen etc.).
I quite like the idea of aristocracy changing spelling for fun.
This is a valid point.
Having to command real people would at least rule out the Zap Brannigan strategy(sending wave after wave of your men in to be slaughtered).
I still think that there would be some problems with people who are out to ruin the fun for everyone (see Quake1.)
Which would give a commander reasons to protect the lives of his or her troops and develop conservative but effective plans, unlike in naked slaughter games like Starcraft and Age of Empires.
You're right...except that the plural is indeed legamus. Legimus would be perfectum.
Yadayadayada, who cares anyway?
If there is hope, it lies in the trolls.
Myth and its sequels are great hames and its nice to hear the is still some activity on it.
Lego not Legos As a life time lover lego I have a 2x4 brick Tattooed on my body as proof. I must say I always thought the real plural of lego was lego and that the "Legos" pluralization was just another american misspelling. me
Well, LEGO is also an acronym for Lek Godt, whitch means "Play Well/Good/Fun" in English.
:)
The English equivalent would be PLGO (play good) or PLFU or something like that
I happened to meet a few of the Bungie folks up in SF a couple of months ago, and they're great people to hang out with till all hours playing Myth II with a bunch of other geeks and making bad jokes. Look for their upcoming Oni and Halo as well.
BTW, I still get Marathon flashbacks all these years later.
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Anybody been able to connect to this site ? I havent been able to all afternoon :~(
And its one Lego, several Legoer :) I say use the S in english (and ignore the rest)
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if so, what does it stand for? Large elephants gently ovulating? Check out karl malbrain's posts on comp.lang.c, they are a riot...
When the US was formed, English spelling had not been standardized. We standardized on one set of spellings, the British standardized on another.
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Now, all we need to do is hook Myth II upto a field of Mindstorm robots, and we can have a grand 'ol time!
I believe the fact that you have to resort to personal insults is an indicator of how many facts you have to support your argument, but on the odd chance that there are a few people still reading this thread after your little tantrum I'll respond further.
I'll assume that by Webster's, you mean the Merriam-Webster dictionary, since Mr. Webster's work predates the toy in question.
You are correct that the Merriam-Webster dictionary doesn't list "legos" as a plural of anything, toy or otherwise.
However, this same dictionary lists "prel-yood" as the preferred pronunciation of "prelude", despite the fact that the VAST majority people in the country whose pronunciation it covers don't pronounce it that way.
This same dictionary refused to recognize "ain't" as a word for decades.
Language is defined by usage, not by dictionaries.
Language is not defined by Trademark. Trademarks are defined by Trademark, nothing else.
If you think I'm wrong, go do a search on your favorite search engine for "lego" and see how many pages use it as a plural without an S, compared to how many use it as a plural with an S.
If you're so convinced you have the facts, put your browser where your mouth is.
I'm so confident that I'm right, I won't even bother to stoop to personal insults and directed cursing.
SCREW the FAQ.
And it's "Hemos".
Language is defined by usage, not fiat.
You and the other three people on this planet who think the plural of "LEGO" is "LEGO" are wrong.
Live with it.
AAARGH! For the umpteenth time, It's LEGO!!! NOT LEGOS!!! And that's according to the manufacturer's own FAQ by the way, Hemo.
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I put my archers up on the hill. I had the whole area mined with satchel packs, along with a few dwarves and fetch to set them off. And in case there were any survivors, I had a whole legion of berserkers, along with a few Trow, to mop up.
But when the reports came back, the news was grim: "There's .. just .. too .. many of them! We're getting .. hammered!" and "We're overwhelmed! Send the reserves, I beg you!" Soulblighter had a new weapon, and seemingly inexaustable resources. What possible defense can there be against the dreaded Slashdot Effect?!?
I hope the site will be accessible in a few days; I would love to see it.
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Anybody else remember the "Blockworld" tileset for the Populous expansion set The Promised Lands? Also, I know I've seen a few different sets of rules for using LEGO figures as miniatures for tabletop wargames.
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Officially, LEGO is a brand name and does not have a plural form. The technically correct term would be "LEGO Toys" or "LEGO Bricks". Of course, I call them "Legos" just like everybody else in the real world.
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There was an effort to port the look and feel of Marathon Infinity over to the Unreal engine, but the last time I went looking for it, there had been no progress made beyond a couple of test screen shots.
After Marathon: Evil, you have no idea how much I was looking forward to this!
Hey! One Google search later, and you get this: Frog Blast Project
I know what I'm doing now!
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It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
ludo is Latin for "I play", of which the plural is ludimus "we play".
legimus on Perseus
legamus on Perseus
You are thinking of the wrong lego... but I'll stop now, really.
or do i need to buy the game just to find out if i like the lego version?
greetings, eMBee.
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I read an article about the Lego Myth mod in last months issue of Computer Games Magazine. I could swear I remember reading that it was discontinued due to a 'cease and desist' order from Lego.
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BTW, these troll posts are getting more hillarious by the day
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Did you all know that in portugese "Lego my Eggo" means "I bequeath my eggo"? Much confusion at the breakfast table, I must say!
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Ok this is off legos topic, but hopefully interesting none the less.
Here's a cool/interesting idea for a game. A huge networked first person shooter/strategy game. Instead of having stupid units controlled by crappy AI you have smart units run by people that a commander passes orders to via chain of command. Basically you'd have lots of quakers and a couple of commanders who can see the whole battlefield from their command posts.
Think about it, if the enemy knocks out the command post the commander has to stramble and that team loses coordination. The game isn't a predictable strategy since the players skill levels effect how well their units perform. A good weak unit can possibly beat a crappily played strong one.
I looked at some stuff on the new Team Fortress that Valve is putting out and I was wondering if it would be anything like this.
So far I've gotten all my Karma from telling people they are wrong... :)
There is a really funky and huuuge Unreal Tournament map (world?) where you start in a Lego world, you're about one cm high, and you kill the other dudes in a lego world ... and actually you can get out of it and you end up in a giant ... well normal sized house, it's huuuuuge and funky and it's so oh-cool to drive the redeemer around it. Damn it, what's the name of this map again? Last time I played it I fragged the hell of the losers connected there. This map is even funnier than DM-Bathroom.
To carry on the Off-Topic post, when is StarCraft for Linux due? It works well in single player under Wine, but crashes way too often in networked games.
The plural of Lego is Lego.
No S!!!!
George
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