Read the post directly above yours. In brief - they can gather information off the black strip of your drivers license, combine it with your credit card, and commit Identity Theft.
A bar, restaurant, homeowner, or any other private place can demand ID as a condition of entry (or refuse service), but once you are inside the building they can't suddenly decide, "We changed our minds. We want your ID."
If they've allowed you to enter without ID then they must allow you to leave without showing ID as well.
If this BarScan program is *mandated* by the government, then effectively the bars are being run by the government. And that makes it an illegal search without warrant.
Aside-
I don't know how it is in Canada, but in the United States you only need to show your drivers license if you are physically inside a car. If you're just walking down a street, a cop cannot make you show your drivers license, because you're not driving. Nor can they force you to show an ID without warrant/probable cause.
That's how ALL government programs should be - voluntary.
- You want gov't healthcare? Sign-up at age 18 and pay taxes the rest of your life. Don't want government doctors? Then don't pay the tax.
- You want retirement benefits? Sign-up to pay SS taxes at age 18. If not, then don't pay the SS tax and create your own savings account for the age 70 and up years.
- You want internet filtering? Then sign-up for it. Don't make force everyone to adopt your medieval backwards puritan morality. I prefer my internet uncensored so obviously I would not sign. I'm an adult; I can handle it unfiltered.
The real reason is that a Roman emperor circa 300 A.D. decided to be a Christian, and as the dictator dictates, so goes the population. "Who me? Polytheistic? Noope, no sir, not me. You must be thinking of my neighbor Joe." There was a momentary backlash when the next emperor tried to restore polytheism, but he died a quick death, so the monotheistic religion eventually took over.
You'll note outside the Roman Empire (i.e. east of the arabian desert) there were Monotheistic Christians but they had no empire to back them up, so they found little success.
>>>you can see that many so called citizens do not care two shits about privacy as long as they have their preacious illusion of security.
Well as I just said in another post, they WILL care when the experience Identity Theft because Bubba the bouncer and Bert the barman took the swiped ID and the swiped credit card & combined them together to become Sally the sorority girl (or some other customer).
Then I suppose these idiot citizens will want to cry and blame everyone else, except themselves.
Ya know some of those scanners can be used to steal your credit card numbers. So you hand them your ID with your social security number encoded on the strip. Then at the end of the night you hand them your credit card which also gets swiped.
Then the Bubba the bouncer or Bert the barman put these two pieces of data together and steal your Identity.
>>>they should have the right to bundle their browser, [word processor, and spreadsheet] with their OS. It's not like they are keeping others from being installed. >>>
This is the kind of thinking that drove once-number one Netscape, WordPerfect, and Lotus 1-2-3 into bankruptcy. Now were're stuck with Microshit Office as the "standard". That's like being stuck with Blurry VHS instead of a High Def DVR.
I'm currently using IE7, and compared to Firefox it's a horrible browser. It frequently freezes for 5-10 second intervals, and also my google searches are being hijacked by some adware that takes me to an entirely different search engine.
When people tell me "Explorer is not bad" my mouth literally drops open. It. Is. Bad.
>>>I have a hard time fathoming why Microsoft would have to do this but not Apple...
For the same reason why the U.S. Government broke-apart AT&T but did not touch other telephone companies like Sprint or MCI. (Hint: AT&T had a near-monopoly and so too does MS.)
>>Just like factory workers, cops, teachers, doctors, engineers, etc aren't owed a living, right?
No they're not. You get paid for doing work, but if your product is not something the consumer wants to pay money to obtain, then your product doesn't sell. That's how a free market works. I'm an engineer and I'm in that predicament right now - nobody's interested in my programming skills, so here I sit.
What I don't do is call-up RIAA or some similar organization and start demanding we sue people. I don't have a right to take other people's money if they're not interested in buying my program. Maybe my program is crap and I should try a different career.
Everything I just said also applies to writers, singers, or producers.
>>>First, I get a notice via email that then requires _manual processing_.
Oh just ignore it. My ISP Verizon has announced it won't enforce RIAA or MPAA notices. That's their job, not Verizon's job, so they get ignored.
>>>Secondly, file sharers use a disproportionate share of bandwidth as compared to legal and legit users, and cutting their asses off has a positive benifical effect on the network. >>>
Instead of cutting them off completely, you could just reduce their speed to ~500k - still functional if they want to watch hulu.com, but not hogging all the bandwidth either. This is basically the approach being used by people like Comcast ISP.
Alternatively you could move from a flat-rate model to a "pay as you go" model - where every gigabyte over 10GB is 10 cents more. Just like how most cellphones operate (overage minutes).
>>>I consider p2p users to be undesireable customers anyways, and so when they get caught and reported to me, I use that opportunity to engage in some education about the teeth in my terms of service. Yes, cutting people off has quite an immediate and therapeutic effect on their behavior >>>
You remind me of the ancient SYS-OPs from the days of BBSes. Also some webmasters on modern forums. Most were decent people but every now and then, you ran into someone who was on a power trips. Being able to "cut them off" helped feed their power trip. "You read the terms of use; you violated them. Goodbye. Muhahaha. Muhahaha!"
Anyway I'll happily buy DVDs of movies I like. The problem is that most of them are crap. And you don't know what's good, and what's crap, until *after* you've seen it at least once.
Perhaps if content creators had a "satisfaction guaranteed" warranty, then I'd be more-inclined to make legal DVD purchases, but they don't. They don't care if I enjoyed what I saw; they just want the money. As long as they have that attitude, then I'm going to continue trying before buying, so I don't waste money on junk.
I didn't bother to read your entire post, because you were wrong with your very first sentence! P2P is used to download copyrighted works, yes, but it's not "exclusively" for that purpose. I've downloaded perfectly legal stuff like antivirus software, home movies from family, linux distributions, PS3 software updates, and even legally-purchased TV episodes.
If you can't even get your first sentence correct, I shudder to think what other falsehoods were in your rant. But I will add this:
Most of the shit isn't worth paying for. I just recently downloaded ~20 movies that I watched on my ipod, and only 1 of those was worthy of purchase (Hannah Montana 3D for my niece). Just imagine how I'd feel if I had spent $400 buying those twenty DVDs, legally, only to discover what trash they are. The word "ripped-off" comes to mine.
And of course there's no warranty. No "satisfaction guaranteed". You're stuck with the dumb DVD.
I don't know about the average consumer, but THIS consumer can't afford to just throw-away four hundred dollars on poorly-made movie purchases.
A Motel 6 in Virginia kicked me out because they charged me $40 a night, but my reservation said $36 (10% off).
The first week the manager complained, accused me of creating counterfeit reservations, and basically had a hissy fit. I remained calm and said "All you have to do is call the central office and verify it, " which he did and then removed 10% off the price. The second week it happened, he called the police, told me I'm banned, and tried to arrest me.
I still can't believe a business is allowed to advertise a 10% off rate, print it on an official reservation, charge full price, and then kick-out the customer when he points-out the error. I called the State Government about it, and they said there's nothing they can do.
The underground cables are typically owned by the local city or town. Karoo ISP doesn't care what you do with them, but your local mayor will probably arrest your ass.
Your only real option is to read the contract the ISP signed with the Town, and determine when disconnecting a customer is allowed. It probably says non-payment is a valid reason, but as long as you keep paying then they MUST continue service. They're probably in breach of contract.
If there IS a telephone system, why can't a resident dial into the UK-equivalent of America Online or Netscape or Netzero or Juno or...? Why can't they get internet via satellite?
I agree that it's a load of crap that Karoo is able to kickoff customers - that's equivalent to a phone company saying, "We heard you planning a bank heist so we kicked you off" - but it's still an inaccurate summary to say Karoo is the only option. Dialup or satellite are alternatives.
>>>I think that all Windows Vista users should get a free upgrade to Windows Vista 7.
You've been modded (-1) score and offtopic, but I don't understand why. Your post in entirely on topic (about the latest version of Windows). In effect you've been censored... probably by Microsoft employees or those wishing they were MS employees.
Anyway I agree.
Microsoft should charge when there's a major jump like V4.x to V5.x (98 to XP) or V5.x to V6.x (XP to Vista). We're only jumping +0.1 in version numbers (from Win6.0 to Win6.1). Anyone who has 6.0 should get a free upgrade to 6.1, just as on my XP machine I got a free upgrade to all the V5.x revisions.
And no on your question. I upgraded from 98 to XP, which is an entirely different operating system (V4.x to V5.x). And if I upgraded from XP to Vista (V5.x to V6.x) then I would expect to pay then too. But to upgrade from V6.x to V6.x should be free.
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Read the post directly above yours. In brief - they can gather information off the black strip of your drivers license, combine it with your credit card, and commit Identity Theft.
A bar, restaurant, homeowner, or any other private place can demand ID as a condition of entry (or refuse service), but once you are inside the building they can't suddenly decide, "We changed our minds. We want your ID."
If they've allowed you to enter without ID then they must allow you to leave without showing ID as well.
If this BarScan program is *mandated* by the government, then effectively the bars are being run by the government. And that makes it an illegal search without warrant.
Aside-
I don't know how it is in Canada, but in the United States you only need to show your drivers license if you are physically inside a car. If you're just walking down a street, a cop cannot make you show your drivers license, because you're not driving. Nor can they force you to show an ID without warrant/probable cause.
That's how ALL government programs should be - voluntary.
- You want gov't healthcare? Sign-up at age 18 and pay taxes the rest of your life. Don't want government doctors? Then don't pay the tax.
- You want retirement benefits? Sign-up to pay SS taxes at age 18. If not, then don't pay the SS tax and create your own savings account for the age 70 and up years.
- You want internet filtering? Then sign-up for it. Don't make force everyone to adopt your medieval backwards puritan morality. I prefer my internet uncensored so obviously I would not sign. I'm an adult; I can handle it unfiltered.
The real reason is that a Roman emperor circa 300 A.D. decided to be a Christian, and as the dictator dictates, so goes the population. "Who me? Polytheistic? Noope, no sir, not me. You must be thinking of my neighbor Joe." There was a momentary backlash when the next emperor tried to restore polytheism, but he died a quick death, so the monotheistic religion eventually took over.
You'll note outside the Roman Empire (i.e. east of the arabian desert) there were Monotheistic Christians but they had no empire to back them up, so they found little success.
The best technique involves both sucking and blowing, in an alternating fashion.
Microsoft could probably patent it since they've been doing both since Windows 1986 (quite literally the worst OS of that year).
0000.
That's a good PIN right. Or maybe 0212, my birthday? Nobody would ever guess that.
>>>you can see that many so called citizens do not care two shits about privacy as long as they have their preacious illusion of security.
Well as I just said in another post, they WILL care when the experience Identity Theft because Bubba the bouncer and Bert the barman took the swiped ID and the swiped credit card & combined them together to become Sally the sorority girl (or some other customer).
Then I suppose these idiot citizens will want to cry and blame everyone else, except themselves.
Ya know some of those scanners can be used to steal your credit card numbers. So you hand them your ID with your social security number encoded on the strip. Then at the end of the night you hand them your credit card which also gets swiped.
Then the Bubba the bouncer or Bert the barman put these two pieces of data together and steal your Identity.
>>>The ID scan is to identify persons known to police in a database and refuse them services
Illegal search by the government without warrant.
"The internet is for porn. The internet is for porn. So grab your clit and double-click, the internet is for porn."
My brother calls it Foxfire.
He's dyslexic.
>>>they should have the right to bundle their browser, [word processor, and spreadsheet] with their OS. It's not like they are keeping others from being installed.
>>>
This is the kind of thinking that drove once-number one Netscape, WordPerfect, and Lotus 1-2-3 into bankruptcy. Now were're stuck with Microshit Office as the "standard". That's like being stuck with Blurry VHS instead of a High Def DVR.
Perhaps I should upgrade then.
I'm currently using IE7, and compared to Firefox it's a horrible browser. It frequently freezes for 5-10 second intervals, and also my google searches are being hijacked by some adware that takes me to an entirely different search engine.
When people tell me "Explorer is not bad" my mouth literally drops open. It. Is. Bad.
>>>I have a hard time fathoming why Microsoft would have to do this but not Apple...
For the same reason why the U.S. Government broke-apart AT&T but did not touch other telephone companies like Sprint or MCI. (Hint: AT&T had a near-monopoly and so too does MS.)
>>>>>"Content creators are not owed a living."
>>Just like factory workers, cops, teachers, doctors, engineers, etc aren't owed a living, right?
No they're not. You get paid for doing work, but if your product is not something the consumer wants to pay money to obtain, then your product doesn't sell. That's how a free market works. I'm an engineer and I'm in that predicament right now - nobody's interested in my programming skills, so here I sit.
What I don't do is call-up RIAA or some similar organization and start demanding we sue people. I don't have a right to take other people's money if they're not interested in buying my program. Maybe my program is crap and I should try a different career.
Everything I just said also applies to writers, singers, or producers.
>>>First, I get a notice via email that then requires _manual processing_.
Oh just ignore it. My ISP Verizon has announced it won't enforce RIAA or MPAA notices. That's their job, not Verizon's job, so they get ignored.
>>>Secondly, file sharers use a disproportionate share of bandwidth as compared to legal and legit users, and cutting their asses off has a positive benifical effect on the network.
>>>
Instead of cutting them off completely, you could just reduce their speed to ~500k - still functional if they want to watch hulu.com, but not hogging all the bandwidth either. This is basically the approach being used by people like Comcast ISP.
Alternatively you could move from a flat-rate model to a "pay as you go" model - where every gigabyte over 10GB is 10 cents more. Just like how most cellphones operate (overage minutes).
>>>I consider p2p users to be undesireable customers anyways, and so when they get caught and reported to me, I use that opportunity to engage in some education about the teeth in my terms of service. Yes, cutting people off has quite an immediate and therapeutic effect on their behavior
>>>
You remind me of the ancient SYS-OPs from the days of BBSes. Also some webmasters on modern forums. Most were decent people but every now and then, you ran into someone who was on a power trips. Being able to "cut them off" helped feed their power trip. "You read the terms of use; you violated them. Goodbye. Muhahaha. Muhahaha!"
Anyway I'll happily buy DVDs of movies I like.
The problem is that most of them are crap.
And you don't know what's good, and what's crap,
until *after* you've seen it at least once.
Perhaps if content creators had a "satisfaction guaranteed" warranty, then I'd be more-inclined to make legal DVD purchases, but they don't. They don't care if I enjoyed what I saw; they just want the money. As long as they have that attitude, then I'm going to continue trying before buying, so I don't waste money on junk.
>>> P2P is used exclusively to STEAL
I didn't bother to read your entire post, because you were wrong with your very first sentence! P2P is used to download copyrighted works, yes, but it's not "exclusively" for that purpose. I've downloaded perfectly legal stuff like antivirus software, home movies from family, linux distributions, PS3 software updates, and even legally-purchased TV episodes.
If you can't even get your first sentence correct, I shudder to think what other falsehoods were in your rant. But I will add this:
Most of the shit isn't worth paying for. I just recently downloaded ~20 movies that I watched on my ipod, and only 1 of those was worthy of purchase (Hannah Montana 3D for my niece). Just imagine how I'd feel if I had spent $400 buying those twenty DVDs, legally, only to discover what trash they are. The word "ripped-off" comes to mine.
And of course there's no warranty.
No "satisfaction guaranteed".
You're stuck with the dumb DVD.
I don't know about the average consumer, but THIS consumer can't afford to just throw-away four hundred dollars on poorly-made movie purchases.
A Motel 6 in Virginia kicked me out because they charged me $40 a night, but my reservation said $36 (10% off).
The first week the manager complained, accused me of creating counterfeit reservations, and basically had a hissy fit. I remained calm and said "All you have to do is call the central office and verify it, " which he did and then removed 10% off the price. The second week it happened, he called the police, told me I'm banned, and tried to arrest me.
I still can't believe a business is allowed to advertise a 10% off rate, print it on an official reservation, charge full price, and then kick-out the customer when he points-out the error. I called the State Government about it, and they said there's nothing they can do.
The underground cables are typically owned by the local city or town. Karoo ISP doesn't care what you do with them, but your local mayor will probably arrest your ass.
Your only real option is to read the contract the ISP signed with the Town, and determine when disconnecting a customer is allowed. It probably says non-payment is a valid reason, but as long as you keep paying then they MUST continue service. They're probably in breach of contract.
>>>Hull has its own telephone system.
If there IS a telephone system, why can't a resident dial into the UK-equivalent of America Online or Netscape or Netzero or Juno or ...? Why can't they get internet via satellite?
I agree that it's a load of crap that Karoo is able to kickoff customers - that's equivalent to a phone company saying, "We heard you planning a bank heist so we kicked you off" - but it's still an inaccurate summary to say Karoo is the only option. Dialup or satellite are alternatives.
>>>I think that all Windows Vista users should get a free upgrade to Windows Vista 7.
You've been modded (-1) score and offtopic, but I don't understand why. Your post in entirely on topic (about the latest version of Windows). In effect you've been censored... probably by Microsoft employees or those wishing they were MS employees.
Anyway I agree.
Microsoft should charge when there's a major jump like V4.x to V5.x (98 to XP) or V5.x to V6.x (XP to Vista). We're only jumping +0.1 in version numbers (from Win6.0 to Win6.1). Anyone who has 6.0 should get a free upgrade to 6.1, just as on my XP machine I got a free upgrade to all the V5.x revisions.
Ooops, thanks for the correction.
And no on your question. I upgraded from 98 to XP, which is an entirely different operating system (V4.x to V5.x). And if I upgraded from XP to Vista (V5.x to V6.x) then I would expect to pay then too. But to upgrade from V6.x to V6.x should be free.
Cross-out the offending portions and write, "admits no guilt" above them. Then sign.
If they still refuse to restore service, hire a team of lawyers and sue them under antitrust/antimonopoly legislation.
The UK isn't like the U.S..... The UK is very big, so local monopolies are very common.
Yeah I know. The U.S. is so small. ;-)
The summary is incorrect. They still have the option to use dialup from some other company, or satellite.