I don't believe you. Although the EU is more urban than the US, I imagine there are still some rural areas where telephone and cable lines are hung on poles, or simply buried directly in the ground.
It's also worth noting the EU's average net speed is 1 Mbit/s slower than the US average, due to some of those more rural states like Greece.
>>>if your words cause harm to others you may be held accountable.
Only if it can be proved your words caused physical or financial harm, and proving either of those is near impossible, so in effect free speech is unlimited except for a few rare cases. "You're a big poopy head" might hurt someone's feelings, but it is not grounds to silence the speaker.
(1) I've never experienced any kind of slowdown on my DSL line, whereas I have seen it on my neighbors' cable lines. My DSL runs at peak speed all the time.
>>>yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is the classic example
Which ironically comes from a war-time Supreme Court decision that upheld the Sedition Act, and was used to imprison people who criticized President Wilson, dared to say the US should not be involved in WW1, and the suffragettes trying to gain the right to vote. By indirectly citing that case, you effectively endorse the idea that a president or congress can jail people for saying things they don't like.
IMHO that case has as little validity as the Supreme Court case that said "separate but equal" segregation is acceptable.
Don't ever work for Rockwell Collins. They eventually dumped the other contractors as well, for similarly stupid reasons. (Unless you want to be abused.)
>>>they can find lots of "legal" reasons to let you go.
I lost my job because my boss said, "You eat too much food at lunchtime." Her argument was that because the company is supplying the food, and she received reports I was eating a lot of food, I broke the rules. I commented (1) I only weigh 130 pounds so obviously I'm not overeating and the report was fallacious, and (2) if you had simply ASKED me I would have brought a bag lunch instead of eating the company's lunch. No need for firing.
She didn't want to hear it. As you say, bosses can basically invent reasons to dump you. In this case, as I later learned, my position was never refilled. She was cutting costs by dumping people.
Never heard that word before. I'm not sure why it's necessary to have a new one? "Monopoly on power" or "Monopoly on market" pretty much explains that problem. It means lack of choice for consumers or employees or sellers.
Like ebay for example. Although I do have other choices for selling my goods, none of them is effective. Ebay has a near-monopoly on the auction market.
>>>The amendment begins with "Congress shall make no law".
And the document begins with "We the People". Corporations are things not people, so the Bill of Rights applies to the People alone, and the Member States that made the original document. Corporations have no more rights than this Building I am sitting in, and are in fact an invention by government (via issuance of a Limited Liability) that do not exist in nature. Since corporations are not natural, they are not entitled to natural rights.
>>>Good to see you've finally admitted that you want anarchy.
I said nothing of the kind. What I want is a central government limited by the Constitution (i.e. limited to ~25 specific powers) rather than an unrestrained government that can do almost anything it desires. Basically I want to enforce the 9th and 10th Amendments.
As for corporations, I don't have a solution. Maybe a good first step is to say corporations have the same legal status as Buildings, not people, and therefore have revocable privileges not rights.
Exactly. I've been texting since my first modem in 1988. First BBSes then Usenet then facebook.
And still haven't got laid. (much).
I call shenanigans on this study. Or to borrow a well-worn phrase: "Correlation is not causation." These teens would probably have lots of sex even if they stopped texting.
I thought the purpose of an archive was to backup text/audio/video so that if the primary source (DVD) turns to rust, some future ~4000 AD generation can go back to the book and scan it page-by-page to reconstruct it.
One of the tragic things about Greco-Roman culture is that almost all their music was lost. If someone had simply wrote it down on paper, we'd still have the yellowed sheets to reconstruct the songs, but nobody ever bothered. The same will happen to our culture if we fail to convert our audio/video into a permanent format. Like books with barcodes.
No but I remember Commodore Amiga MOD files (where the format originated).;-) The Amiga was the first computer to have the capability to recreate the Laserdisc games (Dragon's Lair/Space Ace) at home.
And the 16-color C64 porn did nothing for me, but being able to grab the entire Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue on an Amiga was sheer delight. The poor IBM and Mac users were stuck with 16 and 2 colors respectively. I had a "photorealistic" 4000 colors. (two thumbs up)
As is typical with these kinds of statements ("all" "nothing left") it is false. It would be more accurate to say the web "almost" all gone, but there are still lots of websites that resemble the early web (no or few ads). There's even a few gopher sites around, and of course the pure-text Usenet which dates back to the 80s.
Here you go. True this isn't the start of the web, but it's close enough. The web didn't change that much between the first PC client (AmigaMosaic in 1993) and the 1996 start of the Waybackmachine:
>>>I don't think coming up with some magical storage medium is the answer..
What about books filled with barcodes? Not very efficient for space, but it will still be readable ~5000 years from now and convertible back to databits/audio/video.
Getting online at these speeds wasn't really any fun though. It was even slower than surfing the modern web on dialup. I later upgraded to a 2.4 kb/s modem and that was much better, although it still took 2 hours to download a single floppy.
>>>Oh how I miss Gopher, Archie, and Veronica and gang. The modern-day World Wide Web is basically commerce-oriented with actual information content on a steady decline. Sad.
(50 years ago). Oh how I miss Radio. The modern-day television is basically commerce-oriented, while radio has devolved into a bunch of pop music. (80 years ago). Oh how I miss Books. The modern-day radio is basically commerce-oriented, while books provided ad-free entertainment. (100 years ago). Oh how I miss Live pianos/bands. The modern-day grammophone is basically commerce-oriented with actual talent on a steady decline - replaced with pop stars. .
>>>Let's move to Web 3.0 and a return to the original purpose of the Internet and World Wide Web, namely information-sharing and collaboration for the enrichment (betterment) of society through knowldge and its applications to solving problems.
It still exists if you're willing to look. Like here: http://www.theblaze.com/ or here: http://www.drudgereport.com/ or here: http://moveon.org/ or here (one of the first websites): www.amazon.com. The original intent of the web did not go away..... it just was built-upon with new audio/video sites.
>>>DSL proponents like to point out the shared nature of cable, but forget that all internet connections get shared at some point
If the DSLAM is being fed with a 10 Gbit/s fiber line, then no, there won't be any slowdown even if all your DSL neighbors decide to bittorrent at the same time. A coaxial cable can carry about 5 Gbit/s... minus about 2400 Mbit/s for television and on-demand channels... leaving just ~2.5 Gbit/s for your neighborhood. i.e. Less bandwidth.
Pulled through what? Almost all of it is just bare cable under the dirt. .
>>>time to remove the old copper, recycle it, and pull fiber in it's stead. no need to hire millions...
Size of United States: 3,537,441 square miles Number of Homes: 110 million units Miles of Copper connecting these homes: 2 billion miles (telephone)
So yeah I think you WILL need millions of men to dig the copper out of the ground and then replace it with buried fiber, especially if you want to get the job done in a reasonable amount of time (before 2015) and not stretch it out over decades.
The existence of "good" corporations and governments does not make me love them any more.
They are still dangerous to individuals, as the last 100 years of history prove. (~150 million citizens killed by their own governments) (~10 million workers/neighbors/customers killed by corporate spills or dangerous conditions or denial of medical insurance)
Both Duke University and the City of Durham have acted disgracefully, even after the students were declared "innocent" by the State General Attorney. Duke claims they did nothing wrong, even though they suspended the Entire lacrosse team. And the City of Durham claims it is not responsible for the actions of its police, or its city council, or its prosecutor.
Bastards. From the initial false arrest to the present.
In March 2006 Crystal Gail Mangum, a black student at North Carolina Central University[1][2] who worked as a stripper,[3] dancer and escort,[4] falsely accused three white Duke University students, members of the Duke Blue Devils men's lacrosse team, of raping her at a party held at the house of two team's captains in Durham, North Carolina on March 13, 2006. Many people involved in, or commenting on, the case, including prosecutor Mike Nifong, called the alleged assault a hate crime or suggested it might be one.[5][6][7][8]
On April 11, 2007, North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper dropped all charges and declared the three players innocent. Cooper stated that the charged players - Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty, and David Evans - were victims of a "tragic rush to accuse."[9] The initial prosecutor for the case, Durham County's District Attorney Mike Nifong, who was labeled a "rogue prosecutor" by Cooper, withdrew from the case in January 2007 after the North Carolina State Bar filed ethics charges against him. That June, Nifong was disbarred for "dishonesty, fraud, deceit and misrepresentation"...
Duke University suspended the lacrosse team for two games on March 28, 2006. On April 5, 2006, Duke lacrosse coach Mike Pressler resigned and Duke President Richard Brodhead canceled the remainder of the 2006 season due to the false assumption among the Duke faculty that the players were indeed guilty.
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I don't believe you. Although the EU is more urban than the US, I imagine there are still some rural areas where telephone and cable lines are hung on poles, or simply buried directly in the ground.
It's also worth noting the EU's average net speed is 1 Mbit/s slower than the US average, due to some of those more rural states like Greece.
Wormhole! Extreme!
>>>if your words cause harm to others you may be held accountable.
Only if it can be proved your words caused physical or financial harm, and proving either of those is near impossible, so in effect free speech is unlimited except for a few rare cases. "You're a big poopy head" might hurt someone's feelings, but it is not grounds to silence the speaker.
Interesting.
(1) I've never experienced any kind of slowdown on my DSL line, whereas I have seen it on my neighbors' cable lines. My DSL runs at peak speed all the time.
(2) "bras" is a most excellent name. ;-)
>>>yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is the classic example
Which ironically comes from a war-time Supreme Court decision that upheld the Sedition Act, and was used to imprison people who criticized President Wilson, dared to say the US should not be involved in WW1, and the suffragettes trying to gain the right to vote. By indirectly citing that case, you effectively endorse the idea that a president or congress can jail people for saying things they don't like.
IMHO that case has as little validity as the Supreme Court case that said "separate but equal" segregation is acceptable.
P.S.
Don't ever work for Rockwell Collins. They eventually dumped the other contractors as well, for similarly stupid reasons. (Unless you want to be abused.)
>>>they can find lots of "legal" reasons to let you go.
I lost my job because my boss said, "You eat too much food at lunchtime." Her argument was that because the company is supplying the food, and she received reports I was eating a lot of food, I broke the rules. I commented (1) I only weigh 130 pounds so obviously I'm not overeating and the report was fallacious, and (2) if you had simply ASKED me I would have brought a bag lunch instead of eating the company's lunch. No need for firing.
She didn't want to hear it. As you say, bosses can basically invent reasons to dump you.
In this case, as I later learned, my position was never refilled.
She was cutting costs by dumping people.
Never heard that word before. I'm not sure why it's necessary to have a new one? "Monopoly on power" or "Monopoly on market" pretty much explains that problem. It means lack of choice for consumers or employees or sellers.
Like ebay for example. Although I do have other choices for selling my goods, none of them is effective. Ebay has a near-monopoly on the auction market.
>>>The amendment begins with "Congress shall make no law".
And the document begins with "We the People". Corporations are things not people, so the Bill of Rights applies to the People alone, and the Member States that made the original document. Corporations have no more rights than this Building I am sitting in, and are in fact an invention by government (via issuance of a Limited Liability) that do not exist in nature. Since corporations are not natural, they are not entitled to natural rights.
>>>Good to see you've finally admitted that you want anarchy.
I said nothing of the kind. What I want is a central government limited by the Constitution (i.e. limited to ~25 specific powers) rather than an unrestrained government that can do almost anything it desires. Basically I want to enforce the 9th and 10th Amendments.
As for corporations, I don't have a solution. Maybe a good first step is to say corporations have the same legal status as Buildings, not people, and therefore have revocable privileges not rights.
+1 informative
Yeah I'd steal too if I wasn't getting paid for my work.
Exactly. I've been texting since my first modem in 1988. First BBSes then Usenet then facebook.
And still haven't got laid. (much).
I call shenanigans on this study. Or to borrow a well-worn phrase: "Correlation is not causation." These teens would probably have lots of sex even if they stopped texting.
I thought the purpose of an archive was to backup text/audio/video so that if the primary source (DVD) turns to rust, some future ~4000 AD generation can go back to the book and scan it page-by-page to reconstruct it.
One of the tragic things about Greco-Roman culture is that almost all their music was lost. If someone had simply wrote it down on paper, we'd still have the yellowed sheets to reconstruct the songs, but nobody ever bothered. The same will happen to our culture if we fail to convert our audio/video into a permanent format. Like books with barcodes.
No but I remember Commodore Amiga MOD files (where the format originated). ;-) The Amiga was the first computer to have the capability to recreate the Laserdisc games (Dragon's Lair/Space Ace) at home.
And the 16-color C64 porn did nothing for me, but being able to grab the entire Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue on an Amiga was sheer delight. The poor IBM and Mac users were stuck with 16 and 2 colors respectively. I had a "photorealistic" 4000 colors. (two thumbs up)
>>>It's all commercials now.
As is typical with these kinds of statements ("all" "nothing left") it is false. It would be more accurate to say the web "almost" all gone, but there are still lots of websites that resemble the early web (no or few ads). There's even a few gopher sites around, and of course the pure-text Usenet which dates back to the 80s.
Here you go. True this isn't the start of the web, but it's close enough. The web didn't change that much between the first PC client (AmigaMosaic in 1993) and the 1996 start of the Waybackmachine:
Sci-Fi Channel http://web.archive.org/web/19961114151757/http://scifi.com/
Netscape - http://web.archive.org/web/19961020015116/http://www3.netscape.com/
>>>I don't think coming up with some magical storage medium is the answer..
What about books filled with barcodes? Not very efficient for space, but it will still be readable ~5000 years from now and convertible back to databits/audio/video.
CD-Rs don't erase themselves because of oxygen. They erase for the same reason why my carpets and paintings fade - the dye loses its color.
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>>>MOD files. Who has a player for those these days?
I do. MOD never died as a format. I also have a HAM viewer for those old por... er, photos. 4000 colors baby. ;-)
Or here. BBSing on a commodore 64 at 0.3 kb/s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkHwT6o6Jvw
Getting online at these speeds wasn't really any fun though. It was even slower than surfing the modern web on dialup. I later upgraded to a 2.4 kb/s modem and that was much better, although it still took 2 hours to download a single floppy.
>>>Oh how I miss Gopher, Archie, and Veronica and gang. The modern-day World Wide Web is basically commerce-oriented with actual information content on a steady decline. Sad.
(50 years ago). Oh how I miss Radio. The modern-day television is basically commerce-oriented, while radio has devolved into a bunch of pop music.
(80 years ago). Oh how I miss Books. The modern-day radio is basically commerce-oriented, while books provided ad-free entertainment.
(100 years ago). Oh how I miss Live pianos/bands. The modern-day grammophone is basically commerce-oriented with actual talent on a steady decline - replaced with pop stars.
.
>>>Let's move to Web 3.0 and a return to the original purpose of the Internet and World Wide Web, namely information-sharing and collaboration for the enrichment (betterment) of society through knowldge and its applications to solving problems.
It still exists if you're willing to look. Like here: http://www.theblaze.com/ or here: http://www.drudgereport.com/ or here: http://moveon.org/ or here (one of the first websites): www.amazon.com. The original intent of the web did not go away..... it just was built-upon with new audio/video sites.
>>>DSL proponents like to point out the shared nature of cable, but forget that all internet connections get shared at some point
If the DSLAM is being fed with a 10 Gbit/s fiber line, then no, there won't be any slowdown even if all your DSL neighbors decide to bittorrent at the same time. A coaxial cable can carry about 5 Gbit/s... minus about 2400 Mbit/s for television and on-demand channels... leaving just ~2.5 Gbit/s for your neighborhood. i.e. Less bandwidth.
>>>copper been pulled through;
Pulled through what? Almost all of it is just bare cable under the dirt.
.
>>>time to remove the old copper, recycle it, and pull fiber in it's stead. no need to hire millions...
Size of United States: 3,537,441 square miles
Number of Homes: 110 million units
Miles of Copper connecting these homes: 2 billion miles (telephone)
So yeah I think you WILL need millions of men to dig the copper out of the ground and then replace it with buried fiber, especially if you want to get the job done in a reasonable amount of time (before 2015) and not stretch it out over decades.
The existence of "good" corporations and governments does not make me love them any more.
They are still dangerous to individuals, as the last 100 years of history prove. (~150 million citizens killed by their own governments) (~10 million workers/neighbors/customers killed by corporate spills or dangerous conditions or denial of medical insurance)
P.S.
Both Duke University and the City of Durham have acted disgracefully, even after the students were declared "innocent" by the State General Attorney. Duke claims they did nothing wrong, even though they suspended the Entire lacrosse team. And the City of Durham claims it is not responsible for the actions of its police, or its city council, or its prosecutor.
Bastards. From the initial false arrest to the present.
wikipedia writes:
In March 2006 Crystal Gail Mangum, a black student at North Carolina Central University[1][2] who worked as a stripper,[3] dancer and escort,[4] falsely accused three white Duke University students, members of the Duke Blue Devils men's lacrosse team, of raping her at a party held at the house of two team's captains in Durham, North Carolina on March 13, 2006. Many people involved in, or commenting on, the case, including prosecutor Mike Nifong, called the alleged assault a hate crime or suggested it might be one.[5][6][7][8]
On April 11, 2007, North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper dropped all charges and declared the three players innocent. Cooper stated that the charged players - Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty, and David Evans - were victims of a "tragic rush to accuse."[9] The initial prosecutor for the case, Durham County's District Attorney Mike Nifong, who was labeled a "rogue prosecutor" by Cooper, withdrew from the case in January 2007 after the North Carolina State Bar filed ethics charges against him. That June, Nifong was disbarred for "dishonesty, fraud, deceit and misrepresentation"...
Duke University suspended the lacrosse team for two games on March 28, 2006. On April 5, 2006, Duke lacrosse coach Mike Pressler resigned and Duke President Richard Brodhead canceled the remainder of the 2006 season due to the false assumption among the Duke faculty that the players were indeed guilty.