Windows isn't that bad. I haven't done a restore on my XP machine since 2005, and it runs 24 hours a day. Microsoft has, finally, learned to create a stable OS (based on their NT project).
It was early in the computer revolution. It's understandable why the appearance changed, because technology moved so quickly (in 1980 we had 8 bit machines with Text - in 1990 we had 32 bit with GUI). .
>>>3.1 to 95. Complete change.
That's true. Win95 abandoned the previous mess of icons and went with the Start menu. But I would argue there have Not been any major UI changes since 1995. The start button, the tab bar, the trashbin, the icons..... everything is still in the same place. A person using Windows 7 today could go back to Win95 and pick it up in less than 5 minutes.
Microsoft has updated the look, but kept Windows "start" concept for 15+ years. There's still a trashcan, still a task manager, still the familiar directory structure that existed in 95. Apple Macintosh has also been consistent. I moved from System 7 (1995) to OS 10 and picked it up without any problem. ----- Can the same be said for Ubuntu Linux? Can someone jump from the earliest version to the 2010 version (or vice-versa), and still be able to use it? No not really. Things were moved around, seemingly at random.
Disagree. I think a guy further up summarized my point perfectly:
"Consistency. When your product changes all the time, people are going to have to deal with these changes..... it gets really old when your task bar is moved to the other side of the screen, your menus are all reorganized, and the terminal session shortcut that used to be on a particular convenient context menu is now gone."
Joe Q Public won't put up with this crap, and that's why 99% of them never touch Ubuntu or any other Linux desktop. "Microsoft [and Mac] has been able to provide more consistency than a lot of these Linux distros."
>>>It gets really old when your task bar is moved to the other side of the screen, your menus are all reorganized,
100% agree. Of as I said further below: "Not a clue what any of this means. I'll just stick with Windows or Mac. You buy it, turn it on, and it works." - Joe Q Public. People are looking for CONSISTENCY in how things work. They want the gas pedal, the brake pedal, the gear shift, the turn signal, headlights, start menu, tabs, trashcan, and other things in the SAME position. Not changed every 6-12 months.
That wasn't difficult at all. In fact it was extremely easy, and I didn't have to remember if 10.10 == busty brassiere or Mac OS 10.3 == ugly unicorn, or whatever.
(1) Amiga OS. I miss it. (2) Or if I can't have that, a clone of the Windows OS so I'm no longer locked into the Microsoft Monopoly when running MS software. Something like Wine but bigger.
Reporters routinely inject words like "ironic" or "far ___ wing" or whatever to make their articles more interesting. No reason/. reporters would be any different.
And it is ironic the desktop's called "unity" but appears to be dividing the community. Similar to when Puppy Linux switched from SeaMonkey to Chromium - it created division not unity.
I want something that looks like Windows (start button, trashbin, tabs on bottom or top, etc). I tried to find Unity screenshots but found nothing. Does it look/feel like a Windows PC?
I don't even know why they bother with names. They are confusing and random, and I don't use them. I don't use the Mac OS names either. I just use the version number:
Laptop 1 = Ubuntu 8.0 (first version of 2008) Laptop 2 = Lightweight Ubuntu 10.1 (second version of 2010) Mac G3 = 10.4 Mac G5 = 10.5
- Some website guy found an article from the Netherlands branch of Microsoft which conjectured Windows next version will be released in ABOUT two years.
Why not? In just the brief time I've been using Win7, I've not felt the desire to punch the screen or run the chassis over with a bulldozer. (RIP Vista PC) I also experimented with installing Win7 on a 1/2 gig laptop and it ran quite well. Then I removed the RAM to bring it down to 256k, and it still ran decently (for single tasking). Microsoft did a good job of optimizing the OS for low memory systems.* I think Windows 7 is just as ready for widescale deployment as XP.
I'm wondering which version of NT we will get: - Will it be NT 8? NT 7? Or maybe another +0.1 iteration to become NT 6.2? (ponder)
* * Although I eventually erased 7 and installed Lightweight Ubuntu instead. Works on systems as low as 128K.
>>>I'm also wondering just what happened for (almost) everyone to decide that 1080 is enough vertical pixels.
Because 1080i or 1080p is the standard used by ATSC and DVB and ISDB television broadcasts, and no one feels like going through yet another 10-20 year transition for higher resolutions. BTW the 1080 originally came from Japan's 1980s analog MUSE system, so you can blame them.;-)
There might be need for high resolutions for CAD or CGI development, but you won't find those screens in Best Buy. You need to special order them (and probably pay $10,000 too).
>>>We just got to a certain point and after that we just went "OOoohhh HD"
The screens are being produced for the general population, and they only have Blurays or HDTV (1920x1080) as their maximum resolution. No point going higher than that, just as there was no point making CRT TVs higher than approximately 700x525 back in the days of analog VCRs (1990s and earlier).
Of course if you need higher resolution, for CAD or CGI development, I'm sure those specialized displays can be bought and hooked-up to your computer.
No you see, when you travel through time you still remain trapped inside the same gravitational "depression" in space. You remain at the same coordinates in the universe, and therefore still materialize on earth, because you're moving with the gravitational well.
Otherwise if you could escape the gravitational well simply by advancing in time, you could jump have the NASA shuttle jump forward one day, and be in space, without needing to use boosters. That would violate conservation of energy and momentum.
>>>If I had to guess I'd say it is because Apple doesn't license Fairplay
Well AAC isn't owned by Apple, so that's probably not the reason audio devices don't come with AAC support. Maybe it's just cheaper to use older MP3 chips instead of upgrade to AAC-capable chips.
It was added with Opera 10.5 and is called Opera Link. Other useful features they added recently are Opera Turbo (speeds-up dialup/cellular connections) and Opera Unite (photo and file sharing). I use the Turbo feature a lot, since many hotels only come with slow connections.
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Windows isn't that bad. I haven't done a restore on my XP machine since 2005, and it runs 24 hours a day.
Microsoft has, finally, learned to create a stable OS (based on their NT project).
>>>Windows 1-3. Complete changes.
It was early in the computer revolution. It's understandable why the appearance changed, because technology moved so quickly (in 1980 we had 8 bit machines with Text - in 1990 we had 32 bit with GUI).
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>>>3.1 to 95. Complete change.
That's true. Win95 abandoned the previous mess of icons and went with the Start menu. But I would argue there have Not been any major UI changes since 1995. The start button, the tab bar, the trashbin, the icons..... everything is still in the same place. A person using Windows 7 today could go back to Win95 and pick it up in less than 5 minutes.
Microsoft has updated the look, but kept Windows "start" concept for 15+ years. There's still a trashcan, still a task manager, still the familiar directory structure that existed in 95. Apple Macintosh has also been consistent. I moved from System 7 (1995) to OS 10 and picked it up without any problem. ----- Can the same be said for Ubuntu Linux? Can someone jump from the earliest version to the 2010 version (or vice-versa), and still be able to use it? No not really. Things were moved around, seemingly at random.
That isn't bad. The first image on that page reminds me of the Commodore Amiga's color scheme (lots of orange):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/Amiga_Workbench_1_0.png
Ubuntu 2020.1 Orgasmic Octopus - Serving 8 users at once. Other possible names:
Leapin' Lizards!
Orange Orangutan
Manacles (for) Microsoft
Ugly Unicorn
Pregnant Pussy
And last but not least: Symbian's Sexy Sybian
Disagree. I think a guy further up summarized my point perfectly:
"Consistency. When your product changes all the time, people are going to have to deal with these changes..... it gets really old when your task bar is moved to the other side of the screen, your menus are all reorganized, and the terminal session shortcut that used to be on a particular convenient context menu is now gone."
Joe Q Public won't put up with this crap, and that's why 99% of them never touch Ubuntu or any other Linux desktop. "Microsoft [and Mac] has been able to provide more consistency than a lot of these Linux distros."
>>>It gets really old when your task bar is moved to the other side of the screen, your menus are all reorganized,
100% agree. Of as I said further below: "Not a clue what any of this means. I'll just stick with Windows or Mac. You buy it, turn it on, and it works." - Joe Q Public. People are looking for CONSISTENCY in how things work. They want the gas pedal, the brake pedal, the gear shift, the turn signal, headlights, start menu, tabs, trashcan, and other things in the SAME position. Not changed every 6-12 months.
>>>Names are much easier to google than version numbers
???
what?
http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+10.10
http://www.google.com/search?q=mac+os+10.3
http://www.google.com/search?q=mac+os+10
That wasn't difficult at all. In fact it was extremely easy, and I didn't have to remember if 10.10 == busty brassiere or Mac OS 10.3 == ugly unicorn, or whatever.
>>>Open source community, what more do you want?
(1) Amiga OS. I miss it.
(2) Or if I can't have that, a clone of the Windows OS so I'm no longer locked into the Microsoft Monopoly when running MS software. Something like Wine but bigger.
Reporters routinely inject words like "ironic" or "far ___ wing" or whatever to make their articles more interesting. No reason /. reporters would be any different.
And it is ironic the desktop's called "unity" but appears to be dividing the community.
Similar to when Puppy Linux switched from SeaMonkey to Chromium - it created division not unity.
I want something that looks like Windows (start button, trashbin, tabs on bottom or top, etc). I tried to find Unity screenshots but found nothing. Does it look/feel like a Windows PC?
I don't even know why they bother with names. They are confusing and random, and I don't use them. I don't use the Mac OS names either. I just use the version number:
Laptop 1 = Ubuntu 8.0 (first version of 2008)
Laptop 2 = Lightweight Ubuntu 10.1 (second version of 2010)
Mac G3 = 10.4
Mac G5 = 10.5
Not a clue what their "names" are supposed to be.
"Not a clue what any of this means. I'll just stick with Windows or Mac. You buy it, turn it on, and it works." - Joe Q Public
I would place the date in 2013, since Microsoft is notorious for running behind schedule.
And they've never released a new OS in just two years time.
Here's the basic summary:
- Some website guy found an article from the Netherlands branch of Microsoft which conjectured Windows next version will be released in ABOUT two years.
I could have told you that.
Not news; guessing.
>>>I want 7.1 not 8
Microsoft is trying to catch-up to Mac OS 10... um. Where are we now? 10.60? No, no that's opera. Maybe its 10.11? Nah that's Ubuntu. Ahhh forget it.
BTW Windows 7 isn't really 7.0.
It's NT 6.1 so what you desire
is 6.2 (+0.1 bugfix).
Ugh. My head hurts.
I wager 1 quatloo that Kirk will rip his shirt sometime during this episode.
No takers? Oh well.
I guess that's obvious.
>>>to deploy Win 7 in full-scale roll-outs.
Why not? In just the brief time I've been using Win7, I've not felt the desire to punch the screen or run the chassis over with a bulldozer. (RIP Vista PC) I also experimented with installing Win7 on a 1/2 gig laptop and it ran quite well. Then I removed the RAM to bring it down to 256k, and it still ran decently (for single tasking). Microsoft did a good job of optimizing the OS for low memory systems.* I think Windows 7 is just as ready for widescale deployment as XP.
I'm wondering which version of NT we will get:
- Will it be NT 8? NT 7?
Or maybe another +0.1 iteration to become NT 6.2?
(ponder)
*
* Although I eventually erased 7 and installed Lightweight Ubuntu instead. Works on systems as low as 128K.
>>>I'm also wondering just what happened for (almost) everyone to decide that 1080 is enough vertical pixels.
Because 1080i or 1080p is the standard used by ATSC and DVB and ISDB television broadcasts, and no one feels like going through yet another 10-20 year transition for higher resolutions. BTW the 1080 originally came from Japan's 1980s analog MUSE system, so you can blame them. ;-)
There might be need for high resolutions for CAD or CGI development, but you won't find those screens in Best Buy. You need to special order them (and probably pay $10,000 too).
292 Gbit/s for a 1920x1080 display.
LVDS can't do it. You would need HyperTransport 3 or PCI Express. I got that from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bandwidths#Modems_-_narrow_and_broadband
>>>We just got to a certain point and after that we just went "OOoohhh HD"
The screens are being produced for the general population, and they only have Blurays or HDTV (1920x1080) as their maximum resolution. No point going higher than that, just as there was no point making CRT TVs higher than approximately 700x525 back in the days of analog VCRs (1990s and earlier).
Of course if you need higher resolution, for CAD or CGI development, I'm sure those specialized displays can be bought and hooked-up to your computer.
No you see, when you travel through time you still remain trapped inside the same gravitational "depression" in space. You remain at the same coordinates in the universe, and therefore still materialize on earth, because you're moving with the gravitational well.
Otherwise if you could escape the gravitational well simply by advancing in time, you could jump have the NASA shuttle jump forward one day, and be in space, without needing to use boosters. That would violate conservation of energy and momentum.
(tongue firmly planted in cheek)
Makes sense to me. (The "high frequencies are not that important" part, not the vinyl distortion part - I prefer the accuracy of lossless CD or WAV.)
>>>If I had to guess I'd say it is because Apple doesn't license Fairplay
Well AAC isn't owned by Apple, so that's probably not the reason audio devices don't come with AAC support. Maybe it's just cheaper to use older MP3 chips instead of upgrade to AAC-capable chips.
Thanks for quoting me.
(I wrote that chart.)
It was added with Opera 10.5 and is called Opera Link. Other useful features they added recently are Opera Turbo (speeds-up dialup/cellular connections) and Opera Unite (photo and file sharing). I use the Turbo feature a lot, since many hotels only come with slow connections.
http://www.opera.com/link/
Supposedly Firefox 4 will have the same "store bookmarks online" feature, but I've not tried it.