Well, he's right in one way, but overall is wrong. Somehow, I seriously doubt that the bathroom or connecting doors have chips. In fact, I would bet that less than 30% of hotel room doors have chips. Now extrapolate across the country, and less than 0.01% of all doors have chips. So, "every" doorknob still does not have and will not need a chip.
Now it's only a matter of time befor every PERSON needs to be chipped, but that's another thing:-)
US does not oppress its own people, it oppresses everyone else.
Oppression comes in many forms. The patroit act, spying on your own people, the DMCA, holding people for years with no charges in secret, excessive taxes, etc. and it's getting worse every day. It's not like North Korea and China however who are in a whole different league.
I also take issue with the "everyone else" unless the US's stance on Russia, East germany, North Korea was / is somehow bad. While I think most people no longer agree with the reasons for war with Iraq, most DO agree with some kind of anti-terrorism stance - we can't do NOTHING, but maybe (probably) we are doing it the wrong way.
As for China, the US is getting a hard economic fucking in the ass. The US government and large corporations are the prostate that says it feels good, while the people are in pain. We do not and probably never will have fair trade with china. China is behaving like the US back in the early days of the American industrial revolution - no regard for the environment or the rights of workers. We should require better.
The whole world knows that China is the real innovator and the next world superpower, when will Americans realize this ?
Innovator in what, near slave labor? Oppression of it's people? While the US isn't perfect in the way it behaves and treats it's people, it is still FAR better than most countries and Far FAR better than China.
What China has is cheap labor with lots of foreign inventment because of that cheap labor. That's it. Everything else pretty much sucks. The people that are not in the elite class hate and fear their government.
That would be tough in many situations, and isn't desirable in most. To get a patch from rack 5 to rack 15, and also from 5 to 22, you would need a fully meshed network of patch panels. If I did that, I wouldn't have enough room for all the patch panels not to mention equipment. That's why we use ladders / suspended raceway. I also don't care to run much wire under the floor - only structured (patch rack to wall jacks) that don't change go that way.
Also keep in mind that every single connection point - wire to plug, plug to jack, jack to wire, adds potential points for failure and noise. It's better to minimize those connection points and not use patch panels just for the sake of using patch panels.
There are three types of people: Those who are against DRM, and those who do not fully understand DRM, and those that sell DRM encumbered content. If a consumer fully understood DRM and all the implications, there is no way that they would support it in any way shape or form, and they wouldn't buy DRM encumbered content.
I agree somewhat, although I believe that all media that are DRM restricted need to be clearly labeled as such - and not hidden 15 paragraphs down in some incomprehensible EULA. The problem is that consumers are not sophisticated enough to really understand DRM, and are taken advantage of by marketing speak such as "play for sure" which dishonestly misrepresents the product (I smell class action here...)
If media was clearly labled as being locked to an instance of a device and won't be transferable to other devices, or may not even play if you upgrade your software, then the market can work (most people won't buy.)
The bottom line is that I don't believe things are as simple as you would like them to be due to lack of knowledge by the buyer (primarily due to lack of full disclosure), and dishonesty by the seller. I do believe that consumers are entitled to be treated fairly.
Um, the parent poster WAS a legit paying customer. You seemed to have missed his point which was that MS's anti-piracy systems have pushed people into circumventing the AP technology, and therefor have actually encouraged piracy rather than increased sales.
Browsing the web, email, wordprocessing, itunes, iphoto, chat, work fine and CPU isn't a big factor. That's probably 95% of non-gamer home use. Games are not really a big focus on the mac like they are on Windows. People with simple needs should not waste their money buying a new computer all the time when the old one works fine. It's a major source of toxic waste in our landfills and is a waste of natural resources.
But back to the FA, I fully support MS's effort against "commercial" pirates. Consumers are getting screwed as they are finding that they can't activate properly in many cases. It also ensures that the price point of windows remains high which will drive people away.
Going after end-users would probably be good too as it too will drive more people to alternatives.
Whether or not you like Linux or OS X, choice in the marketplace is a good thing.
It's clear he doesn't understand selinux, doesn't want to understand it, and refuses to believe facts when presented to him. That's fine, that's his right, just as it's his right to run windows and get malware. In fact, I fully support that.
Then you don't understand it. I suggest you read the FAQ.
For example this gem: These goals include controlling raw access to data, protecting the integrity of the kernel, system software, system configuration information and system logs, confining the potential damage that can be caused through the exploitation of a flaw in a process that requires privileges, protecting privileged processes from executing malicious code, protecting the administrator role and domain from being entered without user authentication, preventing ordinary user processes from interfering with system processes or administrator processes, and protecting users and administrators from the exploitation of flaws in their browser by malicious mobile code.
As another (multiple) DirectTivo user, I will be very upset when my tivo no longer functions. I will not use the directtv tivo replacement. Instead, I'll probably drop back to regular tuners and build a myth box, or even go back to (yuck) cable. Yeah, I'll end up with poorer quality due to the re-encoding, but it's better than the alternative.
Not sure how I'll handle any HDTV issues - probably won't be able to utilize it at all. I sure won't deal with any of the DRM crap. My hope is that in a few years I'll be able to get a reasonably priced card that can do real-time compression of analog HDTV.
As for the new HDTivo, there is no way I'd pay $800 PLUS subscription however. Sheesh - it should at LEAST come with a year or two subscription as part of the package.
Sometimes I get the feeling that although they have a female face at the top of HP (previously Fiona, now Dunn), that the board members are little more than an old-boys-club which would rather see a man leading the venerable HP than some uppity broad.
Let's do a simple logic exercise OK?
If the board members wanted a man to run the company they would not have voted to have either Fiona or Dunn to run the company in the first place.
The board seems to be going out of their way to make Dunn feel unwanted, so far even as to break the law to do so.
Telling reporters what is going on in board meetings is not illegal. Keep in mind that HP has NOT been doing well, and the board member leaking things probably wants things to change for the better because he/she believes that Dunn (or others) are fucking up BAD.
What Dunn did is like hiring a hitman. She KNEW that there was no legal way to obtain the information, so she hired PI's to do her (illegal) dirty work for her. The evidence to back that up is that she provided confidential personel records with social security numbers and who knows what else which makes it easy to perform identity theft.
OK, the audience is business users here, not gammers and home users. RTFA.
From a BUSINESS perspective, there is NOTHING compelling in ANY of those lists that would make it worth spending all the time and money it would take to convert an enterprise to Vista. That is the point that you, and Microsoft, are missing. It has nothing to do with Linux (not sure why you even brought that up except to troll....)
Dude: In 10.4, plists are BINARY and have to be manually converted back to text. Furthermore, many plists contain binary blobs of crap within the XML - ditto for the "open directory" schemas that contain the proprietary extensions. I HATE binary blobs of crap. That's what I mean by pseudo XML. If you are just wrapping binary blobs with XML, you may as well not use XML. It would be one thing if it were only true binary data, like pictures, but they are dumping undocumented encoded data structures in there.
The wordyness of the XML makes it MUCH more time consuming to deal with on a command line level. Seasoned Unix system administrators can't walk up to a mac box and do jack with it because NOTHING is done the normal way. This means a steep learning curve for all. Worse, most is not publicly documented (or so poorly documented that it is effectivly undocumented.
Did you actually READ that? NOTHING in there is compelling for a BUSINESS. Photo center? Media center? Search? Not hardly (If I need corporate search, vista search isn't gonna cut it since it's local to the desktop.) The last two are "ready boost" and "installation." Any major business already images, so the slight improvement there is not a compelling reason. Lastly "ready boost." This one is a hoot. Instead of fixing their shitty VM implementation that swaps stuff in and out needlessly (you can have 4G of ram and on boot it's already shoveling crap into VM), they stick it on a flash drive! That's INSANE. If I have someone that needs more RAM, I'll get them more RAM which is a HELL of a lot less expensive that rolling out a new platform to 20,000 desks or supporting "one off" oddball installations.
I think that's an important question - especially considering that a mac mini (which comes with an OS) costs just about twice what the upgrade to vista alone will cost. Probably about the same by the time you factor in the ram and video card upgrades needed... (home user pricing here...)
In the corporate world, the imac / mac pro systems running VMWare with existing corp XP / 2000 licenses seems like a good move. VMWare with "instant resume" and snapshots is pretty damn cool.
Yes, what exactly does Vista offer corporate users that is worth buying all new hardware to get? Eyecandy is not compelling to my business. Neither is random gratuitous UI changes / reorganization that require me to retrain my staff at a cost of $1K+ / head (lost productivity and all.)
The only thing that really bugs me about OS X is command-line management. Apple has gone out of their way to make it REALLY flippin difficult to administer via command line (important when you have a lot of machines, when you want to do something the GUI just doesn't do, or administer a headless server from 2000 miles away.) They hide crap in binary pseudo XML blobs and such. Why not just use a simple text file for gods sakes?!?
So exactly what ARE the new features of Vista that are compelling? All I'm reading is that you don't like OSX. The question was not about OS X, it was about Vista.
Hmm. Win2K still seems to be huge in the corporate world from what I've seen traveling around. I think the gratuitous random UI changes that simple cause support headaches and lack of compelling reason to upgrade is the cause of that. I still really don't see any major reason to go to XP from 2K (other than XP booting a little faster.)
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That works when you have one question.
Last time I voted there were a total of something like 70 candidates for over a dozen offices, and another dozen referendum questions.
Well, he's right in one way, but overall is wrong. Somehow, I seriously doubt that the bathroom or connecting doors have chips. In fact, I would bet that less than 30% of hotel room doors have chips. Now extrapolate across the country, and less than 0.01% of all doors have chips. So, "every" doorknob still does not have and will not need a chip.
:-)
Now it's only a matter of time befor every PERSON needs to be chipped, but that's another thing
US does not oppress its own people, it oppresses everyone else.
Oppression comes in many forms. The patroit act, spying on your own people, the DMCA, holding people for years with no charges in secret, excessive taxes, etc. and it's getting worse every day. It's not like North Korea and China however who are in a whole different league.
I also take issue with the "everyone else" unless the US's stance on Russia, East germany, North Korea was / is somehow bad. While I think most people no longer agree with the reasons for war with Iraq, most DO agree with some kind of anti-terrorism stance - we can't do NOTHING, but maybe (probably) we are doing it the wrong way.
As for China, the US is getting a hard economic fucking in the ass. The US government and large corporations are the prostate that says it feels good, while the people are in pain. We do not and probably never will have fair trade with china. China is behaving like the US back in the early days of the American industrial revolution - no regard for the environment or the rights of workers. We should require better.
The whole world knows that China is the real innovator and the next world superpower, when will Americans realize this ?
Innovator in what, near slave labor? Oppression of it's people? While the US isn't perfect in the way it behaves and treats it's people, it is still FAR better than most countries and Far FAR better than China.
What China has is cheap labor with lots of foreign inventment because of that cheap labor. That's it. Everything else pretty much sucks. The people that are not in the elite class hate and fear their government.
But you were just trolling I'm sure...
even wiring intra rack goes via a panel
That would be tough in many situations, and isn't desirable in most. To get a patch from rack 5 to rack 15, and also from 5 to 22, you would need a fully meshed network of patch panels. If I did that, I wouldn't have enough room for all the patch panels not to mention equipment. That's why we use ladders / suspended raceway. I also don't care to run much wire under the floor - only structured (patch rack to wall jacks) that don't change go that way.
Also keep in mind that every single connection point - wire to plug, plug to jack, jack to wire, adds potential points for failure and noise. It's better to minimize those connection points and not use patch panels just for the sake of using patch panels.
I guess there is a forth type of person. Those that understand technology and DRM enough to pracice copyright infringment, violate the DMCA, etc.
There are three types of people: Those who are against DRM, and those who do not fully understand DRM, and those that sell DRM encumbered content. If a consumer fully understood DRM and all the implications, there is no way that they would support it in any way shape or form, and they wouldn't buy DRM encumbered content.
I agree somewhat, although I believe that all media that are DRM restricted need to be clearly labeled as such - and not hidden 15 paragraphs down in some incomprehensible EULA. The problem is that consumers are not sophisticated enough to really understand DRM, and are taken advantage of by marketing speak such as "play for sure" which dishonestly misrepresents the product (I smell class action here...)
If media was clearly labled as being locked to an instance of a device and won't be transferable to other devices, or may not even play if you upgrade your software, then the market can work (most people won't buy.)
The bottom line is that I don't believe things are as simple as you would like them to be due to lack of knowledge by the buyer (primarily due to lack of full disclosure), and dishonesty by the seller. I do believe that consumers are entitled to be treated fairly.
I can see this as ending poorly for site developers who use Flash. But, then. . .
While I agree about flash, what about AJAX applications? Are we now stuck with plain HTML?
Um, the parent poster WAS a legit paying customer. You seemed to have missed his point which was that MS's anti-piracy systems have pushed people into circumventing the AP technology, and therefor have actually encouraged piracy rather than increased sales.
It all depends on what you are doing.
Browsing the web, email, wordprocessing, itunes, iphoto, chat, work fine and CPU isn't a big factor. That's probably 95% of non-gamer home use. Games are not really a big focus on the mac like they are on Windows. People with simple needs should not waste their money buying a new computer all the time when the old one works fine. It's a major source of toxic waste in our landfills and is a waste of natural resources.
But back to the FA, I fully support MS's effort against "commercial" pirates. Consumers are getting screwed as they are finding that they can't activate properly in many cases. It also ensures that the price point of windows remains high which will drive people away.
Going after end-users would probably be good too as it too will drive more people to alternatives.
Whether or not you like Linux or OS X, choice in the marketplace is a good thing.
It's clear he doesn't understand selinux, doesn't want to understand it, and refuses to believe facts when presented to him. That's fine, that's his right, just as it's his right to run windows and get malware. In fact, I fully support that.
Then you don't understand it. I suggest you read the FAQ.
For example this gem: These goals include controlling raw access to data, protecting the integrity of the kernel, system software, system configuration information and system logs, confining the potential damage that can be caused through the exploitation of a flaw in a process that requires privileges, protecting privileged processes from executing malicious code, protecting the administrator role and domain from being entered without user authentication, preventing ordinary user processes from interfering with system processes or administrator processes, and protecting users and administrators from the exploitation of flaws in their browser by malicious mobile code.
Linux application security consists of "run it as 'nobody'" or "just don't do that."
You are ignoring SELinux.
As another (multiple) DirectTivo user, I will be very upset when my tivo no longer functions. I will not use the directtv tivo replacement. Instead, I'll probably drop back to regular tuners and build a myth box, or even go back to (yuck) cable. Yeah, I'll end up with poorer quality due to the re-encoding, but it's better than the alternative.
Not sure how I'll handle any HDTV issues - probably won't be able to utilize it at all. I sure won't deal with any of the DRM crap. My hope is that in a few years I'll be able to get a reasonably priced card that can do real-time compression of analog HDTV.
As for the new HDTivo, there is no way I'd pay $800 PLUS subscription however. Sheesh - it should at LEAST come with a year or two subscription as part of the package.
Sometimes I get the feeling that although they have a female face at the top of HP (previously Fiona, now Dunn), that the board members are little more than an old-boys-club which would rather see a man leading the venerable HP than some uppity broad.
Let's do a simple logic exercise OK?
If the board members wanted a man to run the company they would not have voted to have either Fiona or Dunn to run the company in the first place.
The board seems to be going out of their way to make Dunn feel unwanted, so far even as to break the law to do so.
Telling reporters what is going on in board meetings is not illegal. Keep in mind that HP has NOT been doing well, and the board member leaking things probably wants things to change for the better because he/she believes that Dunn (or others) are fucking up BAD.
What Dunn did is like hiring a hitman. She KNEW that there was no legal way to obtain the information, so she hired PI's to do her (illegal) dirty work for her. The evidence to back that up is that she provided confidential personel records with social security numbers and who knows what else which makes it easy to perform identity theft.
So the CNet reporters were righ and powerful? I'm sure that they would be very happy to know that.
OK, the audience is business users here, not gammers and home users. RTFA.
From a BUSINESS perspective, there is NOTHING compelling in ANY of those lists that would make it worth spending all the time and money it would take to convert an enterprise to Vista. That is the point that you, and Microsoft, are missing. It has nothing to do with Linux (not sure why you even brought that up except to troll....)
Dude: In 10.4, plists are BINARY and have to be manually converted back to text. Furthermore, many plists contain binary blobs of crap within the XML - ditto for the "open directory" schemas that contain the proprietary extensions. I HATE binary blobs of crap. That's what I mean by pseudo XML. If you are just wrapping binary blobs with XML, you may as well not use XML. It would be one thing if it were only true binary data, like pictures, but they are dumping undocumented encoded data structures in there.
The wordyness of the XML makes it MUCH more time consuming to deal with on a command line level. Seasoned Unix system administrators can't walk up to a mac box and do jack with it because NOTHING is done the normal way. This means a steep learning curve for all. Worse, most is not publicly documented (or so poorly documented that it is effectivly undocumented.
Did you actually READ that? NOTHING in there is compelling for a BUSINESS. Photo center? Media center? Search? Not hardly (If I need corporate search, vista search isn't gonna cut it since it's local to the desktop.) The last two are "ready boost" and "installation." Any major business already images, so the slight improvement there is not a compelling reason. Lastly "ready boost." This one is a hoot. Instead of fixing their shitty VM implementation that swaps stuff in and out needlessly (you can have 4G of ram and on boot it's already shoveling crap into VM), they stick it on a flash drive! That's INSANE. If I have someone that needs more RAM, I'll get them more RAM which is a HELL of a lot less expensive that rolling out a new platform to 20,000 desks or supporting "one off" oddball installations.
I think that's an important question - especially considering that a mac mini (which comes with an OS) costs just about twice what the upgrade to vista alone will cost. Probably about the same by the time you factor in the ram and video card upgrades needed... (home user pricing here...)
In the corporate world, the imac / mac pro systems running VMWare with existing corp XP / 2000 licenses seems like a good move. VMWare with "instant resume" and snapshots is pretty damn cool.
Yes, what exactly does Vista offer corporate users that is worth buying all new hardware to get? Eyecandy is not compelling to my business. Neither is random gratuitous UI changes / reorganization that require me to retrain my staff at a cost of $1K+ / head (lost productivity and all.)
The only thing that really bugs me about OS X is command-line management. Apple has gone out of their way to make it REALLY flippin difficult to administer via command line (important when you have a lot of machines, when you want to do something the GUI just doesn't do, or administer a headless server from 2000 miles away.) They hide crap in binary pseudo XML blobs and such. Why not just use a simple text file for gods sakes?!?
Other than that, it's pretty good.
So exactly what ARE the new features of Vista that are compelling? All I'm reading is that you don't like OSX. The question was not about OS X, it was about Vista.
Hmm. Win2K still seems to be huge in the corporate world from what I've seen traveling around. I think the gratuitous random UI changes that simple cause support headaches and lack of compelling reason to upgrade is the cause of that. I still really don't see any major reason to go to XP from 2K (other than XP booting a little faster.)