If by "service" you mean a Mafia-like protection racket.
Well, they are the Evil Empire, they can't help it if they bundle a hefty helping of FUD into their service. To do otherwise would be unnatural for them.
One OS to rule them all One OS to find them One OS to bring them all And unto Windows bind them In the land of Redmond where the marketing lies
MS is being pushed hard enough to push back; and being pushed hard enough that it must push back by delivering some actual value to the customer for doing business with them.
So they're selling a service rather than the software.
He didn't say that advertising doesn't influence him. He specifically said it did, when it was targeted at his wants.
I have very few branded items in my home (and most of that is incidental branding, like that on the rice in my bins, couldn't even tell you what brand it is, but I can tell you the 20 lb sack was five bucks), and have never seen a TV or heard a radio ad for any of them. Say my Plexwriter CD drive, Thermarest mattress or Casio digital piano.
I have, however, seen ads for these things in the specialty press/Internet sites directed at computer geeks, campers and musicians.
Why do you think the marketers want all that data about you? Because they themselves know that most of their shotgun advertising is wasted, they just don't know which advertising is wasted.
Until they know something about you. Like only that you buy Road & Track.
And how to reach you, like placing an ad in Road & Track.
Consider that they pay broadcast radio to play songs
There's a word for this behavior. That word is "crime."
. . . but demand to be paid for the same songs going over the Internet.
As they demand to be paid for songs over broadcast radio, or broadcast radio played in a public space and even live performance of songs. Try doing any of those and see how fast the ASCAP (not the RIAA) thugs take to show up.
My own guess is that Internet radio is cheap enough to run that independent artists might build listeners and escape from the RIAA plantation.
Not so much that it is cheap enough, per se. Radio is 100 year old tech and dirt cheap, but that it is free enough. As in speech. Anyone can do it at any time. It isn't regulated as a limited public resource. The cost of radio is really the cost of complying with regulation.
For the same reason you don't lose title to your house if someone moves in while you're on vacation. A patent is a title.
A trademark isn't. A trademark is an association of the mark with your business in the mind of "the people." In a sense it is owned by your customers, not you. One need not even register a mark to have one. It can exist de facto simply through use, creating the public assoctiation.
A patent cannot. You must file for title or it does not exist. What "the people" think about the whole thing isn't relevant to possession. Ignorance or missuse is not the law.
Patents and trademarks are two very different things, you can't just lump them as "IP," and there is sound legal reasoning as to how both are handled.
Most people are little more than yammering apes. Apes like to yammer INXS and *NSYNC.
Much beyond fire, pointy sticks and the wheel there is actually very little around you that has "real" popularity, i.e. is widely adopted because of its own innate desirable properties.
You're an ape. You ape. Marketing just tells you what to ape. School taught you to ape what you are told.
And by the time "The People" realize they have more to legitimately fear from the government's "security" measures, it's too late.
The wiretaps are only the tip of the iceberg. The NSA routinely uses automated systems to monitor the emails of millions of people, because such automated survielence is deemed not to require a warrant.
The only thing we have going for us is that law enforcement agencies themselves are starting to crack under the strain of investigating every Tom, Dick and Sally that the "AI" tags as "suspicious."
It seems entirely likely that the next major terrorist attack will succeed because the intelligence community has grown tired of dealing with all the wolf crys.
And that the government will respond by crying wolf more and louder. Makes ya kinda wonder who the terrorists really are, don't it?
Terror is a domestic product. To fight terror, don't be afraid.
The problem being that the government has had its head up its ass for so long that it has come to believe that's where it belongs and defends the position.
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". . .there will be no discussion -- they will go for the better looking system if they can possibly afford it," Peddie said in a statement."
Right. Classic.
Boy, that was easy. Next issue.
KFG
If by "service" you mean a Mafia-like protection racket.
Well, they are the Evil Empire, they can't help it if they bundle a hefty helping of FUD into their service. To do otherwise would be unnatural for them.
One OS to rule them all
One OS to find them
One OS to bring them all
And unto Windows bind them
In the land of Redmond where the marketing lies
Beware the Ballmer!
KFG
But also that if you're a big enough gorilla that doesn't apply to you.
KFG
> School taught you to ape what you are told.
:P
>>By that logic, you are an ape as well.
I didn't go to school.
KFG
Anyone that actually knows the story would realize the folly in siding with Goliath.
Well, you could side with Ajax instead.
KFG
Indeed, but don't forget what this really means.
MS is being pushed hard enough to push back; and being pushed hard enough that it must push back by delivering some actual value to the customer for doing business with them.
So they're selling a service rather than the software.
Sound like a familiar model?
KFG
He didn't say that advertising doesn't influence him. He specifically said it did, when it was targeted at his wants.
I have very few branded items in my home (and most of that is incidental branding, like that on the rice in my bins, couldn't even tell you what brand it is, but I can tell you the 20 lb sack was five bucks), and have never seen a TV or heard a radio ad for any of them. Say my Plexwriter CD drive, Thermarest mattress or Casio digital piano.
I have, however, seen ads for these things in the specialty press/Internet sites directed at computer geeks, campers and musicians.
Why do you think the marketers want all that data about you? Because they themselves know that most of their shotgun advertising is wasted, they just don't know which advertising is wasted.
Until they know something about you. Like only that you buy Road & Track.
And how to reach you, like placing an ad in Road & Track.
KFG
Consider that they pay broadcast radio to play songs
There's a word for this behavior. That word is "crime."
. . . but demand to be paid for the same songs going over the Internet.
As they demand to be paid for songs over broadcast radio, or broadcast radio played in a public space and even live performance of songs. Try doing any of those and see how fast the ASCAP (not the RIAA) thugs take to show up.
My own guess is that Internet radio is cheap enough to run that independent artists might build listeners and escape from the RIAA plantation.
Not so much that it is cheap enough, per se. Radio is 100 year old tech and dirt cheap, but that it is free enough. As in speech. Anyone can do it at any time. It isn't regulated as a limited public resource. The cost of radio is really the cost of complying with regulation.
KFG
For the same reason you don't lose title to your house if someone moves in while you're on vacation. A patent is a title.
A trademark isn't. A trademark is an association of the mark with your business in the mind of "the people." In a sense it is owned by your customers, not you. One need not even register a mark to have one. It can exist de facto simply through use, creating the public assoctiation.
A patent cannot. You must file for title or it does not exist. What "the people" think about the whole thing isn't relevant to possession. Ignorance or missuse is not the law.
Patents and trademarks are two very different things, you can't just lump them as "IP," and there is sound legal reasoning as to how both are handled.
KFG
Double click:
My Documents
Family pics
Hawaii vacation
2006 pics
And there they are! Quite possibly faster than you can type in the search parameters.
Unless, of course, you just "shoebox" everything. There's no accounting for the behavior of people.
KFG
I've assumed my spot up against the wall has been reserved for about 40 years now.
Note, however, I did not include any reference to the government. Nothing spells "invasion of privacy" quite like a divorce lawyer.
On the whole it's better to be put up against the wall. The pain goes away quickly.
KFG
. . .they delete stuff.
Before the sopeana arrives.
KFG
will we find some way to keep our information more secure. . .
Yes.
. . . or will the average joe just stop caring?
Yes.
To achieve the former, don't be the latter.
KFG
Why should I avoid using software that makes my life easier just because of the threat of my privacy being "violated" . . .
Because you have never been refered to as "The Defendant."
Oh, but you will be. You will be!
KFG
By that logic, you are an ape as well.
I am not an ape by logic. I am an ape because that's what I am and cannot be otherwise.
KFG
. . .unfortunately marketing bypasses "real popularity".
Most people are little more than yammering apes. Apes like to yammer INXS and *NSYNC.
Much beyond fire, pointy sticks and the wheel there is actually very little around you that has "real" popularity, i.e. is widely adopted because of its own innate desirable properties.
You're an ape. You ape. Marketing just tells you what to ape. School taught you to ape what you are told.
KFG
If people use either of these methods, it's lame.
That's ok. Another study has shown that most people are lame.
KFG
And by the time "The People" realize they have more to legitimately fear from the government's "security" measures, it's too late.
The wiretaps are only the tip of the iceberg. The NSA routinely uses automated systems to monitor the emails of millions of people, because such automated survielence is deemed not to require a warrant.
The only thing we have going for us is that law enforcement agencies themselves are starting to crack under the strain of investigating every Tom, Dick and Sally that the "AI" tags as "suspicious."
It seems entirely likely that the next major terrorist attack will succeed because the intelligence community has grown tired of dealing with all the wolf crys.
And that the government will respond by crying wolf more and louder. Makes ya kinda wonder who the terrorists really are, don't it?
Terror is a domestic product. To fight terror, don't be afraid.
KFG
Then you are a likely customer for Blu-ray.
KFG
But seriously, why wouldn't they be more expensive? . . . Are you happy with a 64kbps encoding of a tune, or do you prefer a lossless encoded version?
Did you buy Betamax or VHS?
KFG
And Death Shall Have no Dominion
http://www.lem.pl/english/faq/faq.htm#dylanthomas
KFG
The problem being that the government has had its head up its ass for so long that it has come to believe that's where it belongs and defends the position.
KFG
Where are the "peaceful" muslims?
Hangin' out with the peaceful Christians.
KFG
Why exactly does the Bush administration need such vast amounts of information to conduct their 'war on terror'?
So that we live in terror of them.
KFG
Yes, that was my unspoken point. Adams fucked up and got it backwards. What he called "flying" was really VLEO.
He also left out the fact that to pull it off successfully you need to take a running start.
KFG