True "instrument flying" for cars would be killer, (which is to say it would prevent killing, ain't language fun?)
The problem being that the display issues have already largely been solved by the aircraft people. It's the sensing issues that remain to be fully solved for automotive use. How does the car know where the bloody lines are in the first place? The enviroment on the road is far more complex than that in the air where the "lines" can be imposed on a semiarbitrary basis.
Here's the problem as I see it though, only half way through my first cup of coffee (so opinion may change radically in half an hour), KDE on Windows will be primarily useful to the dual booter. I'd like it because I could maintain a somewhat consistent interface across the two OSs I use most.
I honestly don't see why anyone who doesn't use Linux already would give a hoot about running a Windows semi-clone on Windows.
"Look, here's a new interface that's just like the old one, except where it's different just enough to be annoying and confusing, but at least you retain all the underlying faults of the OS while you're at it, so you've got that going for you."
When marketing a commodity you have to do something to differentiate your product from all the others that are basically exactly the same thing. Branding. Well, on Windows Microsoft pretty much has the branding locked down already. "Selling" Linux to Windows users is done on the basis of "it ain't Windows." It's different in important and critical ways. Selling KDE on Windows? That will be percieved as buying a Tomy Hilfinger jacket by most.
It would make much more sense to me if one of the "alternative" desktops ported to Windows; if the goal is to attract new users to Linux. Then you have a "selling" point to leverage.
"It's slim, fast, and light on resources, and if you think it rips on Windows you should see the sucker go in its native enviroment!"
If you'd care to remunerate me for them I'd be happy to send you a bill. I'm not averse to the possesion of money. Nickle a word ought to cover it (don't worry, some of those posts only contain one word in the body. They're easy to fire off while I'm doing something else at roughly the same time. Right now my computer is making regular clicking noises at me, but it's time for a ten minute break).
And there was the Romanian one before that, and the American one that gave those particular scams their name.
Yes, the iPod thing is less evil, it isn't going to ravage the economy and put widows and orphans out on the street with nothing, but I still get a funny feeling when we start talking about degrees of evil.
And personally I consider my time to be the most valuable commodity I own. It is of limited, but unknown, supply. I am so jealous of my time that I do not participate much in the current fad of exchanging it for mere money. When I work I generally do so because it's something I would do anyway, and scrape what money I reasonably can from it so that I can continue to do as I wish tomorrow.
And I did not wake up this morning thinking, "Gee, what I'd really like to do today is sucker 5 of my friends into a pyramid marketing scheme."
I'd much rather spend that time, sans iPod, snuggling with my sweetie, thank you very much.
Aside from the ethics of the thing (harping on your friends to join a marketing scheme), the math quickly works out to require that for the next person to get a free iPod requires more people than there are fundamental particles in the universe.
"Buddy" systems are great, because the progression is linear. Everyone gets to join in in time if they want (well, if there are an odd number of people in the world one guy might get left out). Needing more than one "Buddy" to get the deal makes the progression geometric and ultimately unsupportable.
In this case there's nothing illegal about it, because you aren't required to make any direct investment monitarily, and it's this lack of monitary fraud that fools some people into thinking it isn't a pyramid scheme, but it isn't fraud that defines a pyramid, it's the math. In this case you aren't being defrauded in any way except perceptually and the law doesn't protect your perception, only your money.
But it's that perceptual fraud that makes the scheme so psychologically powerful. As per my previous post the scheme actually pays off. It "works," and people can see that it "works." How can something that "works" be a fraud? That that is the hook under the bait.
But that brings us back to the ethical issues, don't it? The lure of something for "nothing" has always worked on a good many people who then turn into evangelists for the cause if they get the payoff (just look at the other posts and my current mod rating, and the fact that Ponzi was still hailed as a folk hero by some even after the whole thing went to hell), but it isn't just a matter of wondering whether the investment in labor is "worth it," it's wondering whether knowing that you get your free iPod by fucking the people at the bottom of the pyramid who never, ever, get theirs is worth it.
I like my friends better than all that. Hell, I even like my enemies better than all that.
Well sure, but wouldn't it be more fiscally prudent to simply buy a new sofa (a used, but duct tape free, one. Cloth instead of vinyl)and replace the orange shag rug from the 70s with an Olefin oriental carpet?
When you're willing to pay the premium price to gain some advantage from the small size. It's harder and more expensive to make such small drives, but space inside your desktop case is largely determined by the size of componants other than the HD, so, as a general rule, there's simply plenty of space available.
These drives are for applications where space is, of a necessity, at a premium. For instance, my multiplayer gaming centers around a six year old game (Grand Prix Legends) that is hard throttled at 36 fps. While the physics calculations are intense if you don't go silly with graphical addons a 1ghz machine will run it a max speed. I'm currently designing a custom wheel and pedal set and with todays small componants I figure I can build the entire PC to run the game directly into the pedals. Almost nothing to carry to the LAN party but my controller.
I'll pay the premium price to accomplish this (in the case of the drive that's the cost of a 10gb iPod, and I really only need 4gb), but on the top of my desk I've got a full sized tower, because I can, and it costs less, but has higher performance.
Exactly! (although I don't think "high school freshman" qualifies as "Everyone")
And had I recommended a software package or two that would have been a generalization as well.
Of course the most correct answer to the question would have been, "How the hell should I know? You have to sit down and talk to the kid for a few hours at least before you can answer a question like that," which I've actually done here before, and in any case would have been a. ..generalization.
. ..when you leave out important qualifications, I don't know what you are saying.
You understand that the qualifications to "2+2=4" runs to several volumes?
Without narrowing it down, you're implying that it applies to getting anything to the brain.
That's why I narrowed it down some, as well as adding more than one weasel word.
And when the number crunching role of manual pencil+paper is better executed by a computer?
Then use a computer, of course. That's what they're there for.
Spending time to improve manual execution speed is a waste of time when I will always have a computer availaible to do it during my job as a programmer.
I didn't say manual execution speed. I said "facility," and I would expect that by the time you're a junior in college you be doing fairly complex calculations simply in your head. Which will prove useful, since unless you are a code monkey you will not always have a computer handy as a programmer; and even the better code monkeys keep a notepad handy. Being able to quickly scribble a formula on a piece of paper is an incredible time saver.
Programmers do not perform repetitive number crunching. They develop unique algorighms which users, ummmmm, use, to perform repetitive tasks.
People are better at unique functions than machines and can often do them faster without the aid of a machine than with.
Every time I think of it, I am happier that college does not have the fetid mounds of busywork I was forced to endure in high school.
I'm afraid I'm one of those annoying people who skipped high school (and junior high, for that matter) and went straight to college, although not as a matriculated student until I passed my G.E.D. (which I wasn't allowed to take until I was 17).
. ..a brute-force learning method that does NOT work for everyone.
I can't recall every suggesting that anything works for everyone. It's a silly idea. The idea of brute forcing concepts is even sillier.
Repetition is done for the purpose of facility, which some people develop faster than others.
Even so, there is the famous quote of Jascha Heifitz. Facility, even among the highly skilled and trained, still requires a bit of practice now and again.
Saying things out loud while you write them down is another remarkable aid to facility.
It would drive you to the brink of some Lovecraftian insanity.
Well, now that you mention it, that might well explain a lot about me. The fact that this event occured at Vassar at a time when the women still out numbered the men 10 to 1 might also have had some long term affect on my psyche, but I'd rather not delve into that.
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Which makes me think of one of a potential problem with one of the blurb suggested uses:
People who live in glass houses really shouldn't use them to display pr0n.
KFG
True "instrument flying" for cars would be killer, (which is to say it would prevent killing, ain't language fun?)
The problem being that the display issues have already largely been solved by the aircraft people. It's the sensing issues that remain to be fully solved for automotive use. How does the car know where the bloody lines are in the first place? The enviroment on the road is far more complex than that in the air where the "lines" can be imposed on a semiarbitrary basis.
KFG
. . .or that will stick with dual-booting.
Which describes me.
Here's the problem as I see it though, only half way through my first cup of coffee (so opinion may change radically in half an hour), KDE on Windows will be primarily useful to the dual booter. I'd like it because I could maintain a somewhat consistent interface across the two OSs I use most.
I honestly don't see why anyone who doesn't use Linux already would give a hoot about running a Windows semi-clone on Windows.
"Look, here's a new interface that's just like the old one, except where it's different just enough to be annoying and confusing, but at least you retain all the underlying faults of the OS while you're at it, so you've got that going for you."
When marketing a commodity you have to do something to differentiate your product from all the others that are basically exactly the same thing. Branding. Well, on Windows Microsoft pretty much has the branding locked down already. "Selling" Linux to Windows users is done on the basis of "it ain't Windows." It's different in important and critical ways. Selling KDE on Windows? That will be percieved as buying a Tomy Hilfinger jacket by most.
It would make much more sense to me if one of the "alternative" desktops ported to Windows; if the goal is to attract new users to Linux. Then you have a "selling" point to leverage.
"It's slim, fast, and light on resources, and if you think it rips on Windows you should see the sucker go in its native enviroment!"
KFG
. . .old scientists telling the newspaper that "There's no need for flying machines here!"
Name one.
KFG
Well, hey! If it's both regular and regulatable maybe I can use you on woodblock.
KFG
If you'd care to remunerate me for them I'd be happy to send you a bill. I'm not averse to the possesion of money. Nickle a word ought to cover it (don't worry, some of those posts only contain one word in the body. They're easy to fire off while I'm doing something else at roughly the same time. Right now my computer is making regular clicking noises at me, but it's time for a ten minute break).
KFG
And there was the Romanian one before that, and the American one that gave those particular scams their name.
Yes, the iPod thing is less evil, it isn't going to ravage the economy and put widows and orphans out on the street with nothing, but I still get a funny feeling when we start talking about degrees of evil.
And personally I consider my time to be the most valuable commodity I own. It is of limited, but unknown, supply. I am so jealous of my time that I do not participate much in the current fad of exchanging it for mere money. When I work I generally do so because it's something I would do anyway, and scrape what money I reasonably can from it so that I can continue to do as I wish tomorrow.
And I did not wake up this morning thinking, "Gee, what I'd really like to do today is sucker 5 of my friends into a pyramid marketing scheme."
I'd much rather spend that time, sans iPod, snuggling with my sweetie, thank you very much.
KFG
Aside from the ethics of the thing (harping on your friends to join a marketing scheme), the math quickly works out to require that for the next person to get a free iPod requires more people than there are fundamental particles in the universe.
"Buddy" systems are great, because the progression is linear. Everyone gets to join in in time if they want (well, if there are an odd number of people in the world one guy might get left out). Needing more than one "Buddy" to get the deal makes the progression geometric and ultimately unsupportable.
In this case there's nothing illegal about it, because you aren't required to make any direct investment monitarily, and it's this lack of monitary fraud that fools some people into thinking it isn't a pyramid scheme, but it isn't fraud that defines a pyramid, it's the math. In this case you aren't being defrauded in any way except perceptually and the law doesn't protect your perception, only your money.
But it's that perceptual fraud that makes the scheme so psychologically powerful. As per my previous post the scheme actually pays off. It "works," and people can see that it "works." How can something that "works" be a fraud? That that is the hook under the bait.
But that brings us back to the ethical issues, don't it? The lure of something for "nothing" has always worked on a good many people who then turn into evangelists for the cause if they get the payoff (just look at the other posts and my current mod rating, and the fact that Ponzi was still hailed as a folk hero by some even after the whole thing went to hell), but it isn't just a matter of wondering whether the investment in labor is "worth it," it's wondering whether knowing that you get your free iPod by fucking the people at the bottom of the pyramid who never, ever, get theirs is worth it.
I like my friends better than all that. Hell, I even like my enemies better than all that.
KFG
I got a iPod (free by the way, the pyramid scheme works).
Pyramid schemes always do, for those that make it to the top of the pyramid. That's what makes them so insidious, and evil.
KFG
Launch all ZigBee!
As with all new "standards," however, just be careful not to get stung (as some have gotten bit by Bluetooth).
KFG
If Apple adopts this we might well see a situation where iZig.
Of course, if you use a competing product it might well turn out that uZag, but we'll deal with that issue when we come to it.
KFG
. . .anything that simply works usually isn't working at all.
But at least you can't fix it, so you've got that going for you.
KFG
That's like saying let's put the gun in prison instead of the guy that fired it.
They do that as well.
KFG
Dude, sneakernetting is the ultimate P2P process.
And who doesn't have at least a couple of CueCats hanging around. I just hope Jack Welch appreciates the junkmail and spam.
KFG
Wow, busting out a line from a five year old movie.
Dude, like, "Nobody cares about Canada" is a line from a thirty year old song, and you're nailing me on taking a line from a five year old movie?
May I worship you as King of the Fucktards?
Absolutely. If there's one thing about kings it's that they're always looking for any opportunity to broaden their tax base.
KFG
can move out of their parents basement!
Well sure, but wouldn't it be more fiscally prudent to simply buy a new sofa (a used, but duct tape free, one. Cloth instead of vinyl)and replace the orange shag rug from the 70s with an Olefin oriental carpet?
KFG
When you're willing to pay the premium price to gain some advantage from the small size. It's harder and more expensive to make such small drives, but space inside your desktop case is largely determined by the size of componants other than the HD, so, as a general rule, there's simply plenty of space available.
These drives are for applications where space is, of a necessity, at a premium. For instance, my multiplayer gaming centers around a six year old game (Grand Prix Legends) that is hard throttled at 36 fps. While the physics calculations are intense if you don't go silly with graphical addons a 1ghz machine will run it a max speed. I'm currently designing a custom wheel and pedal set and with todays small componants I figure I can build the entire PC to run the game directly into the pedals. Almost nothing to carry to the LAN party but my controller.
I'll pay the premium price to accomplish this (in the case of the drive that's the cost of a 10gb iPod, and I really only need 4gb), but on the top of my desk I've got a full sized tower, because I can, and it costs less, but has higher performance.
KFG
With the way your economy and foreign policy is going pretty soon no one will care about the good ole' United States of America.
Blame Canada.
KFG
I took a advanced engineering math course in grad school. . .
Go back and read the last line of my post again.
KFG
And any number of racing sims eschew any sort of official license and have "the blue car" and "the red car."
I honestly don't understand all the branding crap, even in sports sims. All I care about is if the game is worth a crap.
Make the damned thing "skinable" and the community will make the silly graphics and such in short order, if it's worth playing in the first place.
KFG
What about Canadian Football?
Nobody cares about Canada.
KFG
Sounded like a generalization of everyone to me.
.generalization.
.when you leave out important qualifications, I don't know what you are saying.
Exactly! (although I don't think "high school freshman" qualifies as "Everyone")
And had I recommended a software package or two that would have been a generalization as well.
Of course the most correct answer to the question would have been, "How the hell should I know? You have to sit down and talk to the kid for a few hours at least before you can answer a question like that," which I've actually done here before, and in any case would have been a. .
. .
You understand that the qualifications to "2+2=4" runs to several volumes?
Without narrowing it down, you're implying that it applies to getting anything to the brain.
That's why I narrowed it down some, as well as adding more than one weasel word.
And when the number crunching role of manual pencil+paper is better executed by a computer?
Then use a computer, of course. That's what they're there for.
Spending time to improve manual execution speed is a waste of time when I will always have a computer availaible to do it during my job as a programmer.
I didn't say manual execution speed. I said "facility," and I would expect that by the time you're a junior in college you be doing fairly complex calculations simply in your head. Which will prove useful, since unless you are a code monkey you will not always have a computer handy as a programmer; and even the better code monkeys keep a notepad handy. Being able to quickly scribble a formula on a piece of paper is an incredible time saver.
Programmers do not perform repetitive number crunching. They develop unique algorighms which users, ummmmm, use, to perform repetitive tasks.
People are better at unique functions than machines and can often do them faster without the aid of a machine than with.
If they have developed the skills.
KFG
Every time I think of it, I am happier that college does not have the fetid mounds of busywork I was forced to endure in high school.
.a brute-force learning method that does NOT work for everyone.
I'm afraid I'm one of those annoying people who skipped high school (and junior high, for that matter) and went straight to college, although not as a matriculated student until I passed my G.E.D. (which I wasn't allowed to take until I was 17).
. .
I can't recall every suggesting that anything works for everyone. It's a silly idea. The idea of brute forcing concepts is even sillier.
Repetition is done for the purpose of facility, which some people develop faster than others.
Even so, there is the famous quote of Jascha Heifitz. Facility, even among the highly skilled and trained, still requires a bit of practice now and again.
Saying things out loud while you write them down is another remarkable aid to facility.
KFG
Proofs from the Book
.such thing can't be done with other thing than the pure mind, as the very taste of music can only be found in heart.
Lovely book.
. .
However, to play music one must still put in the hours to develop the technical ablility, with one's fingers.
KFG
It would drive you to the brink of some Lovecraftian insanity.
Well, now that you mention it, that might well explain a lot about me. The fact that this event occured at Vassar at a time when the women still out numbered the men 10 to 1 might also have had some long term affect on my psyche, but I'd rather not delve into that.
KFG