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The Promise Of Transparent Circuits
aaron huslage writes "Research into Transparent Circuits has apparently come a long way lately. 'In a development that could accelerate architectural deployment of see-through surfaces with embedded circuitry, researchers from the Tokyo Institute of Technology have greatly improved the processing speed of transparent semiconductors, according to a report in the Nov. 25 issue of the journal Nature.' Imagine that your house is your computer!" Or a truly active windshield display in the car.
Or a truly active windshield display in the car.
yay! as if it's not bad enough getting run over by soccermom's in their Navigators.. now they get to look at all the pretty flashy things!!
"imagine that your house is your computer."
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Is that transparent or translucent... cuz if it's transparent how the hell do you even know if they are there? Sounds like one hell of a good sales trick... "Trust me... it's there... now hand over the thousand bucks!" ;)
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Or a truly active windshield display in the car.
Great, now I have to worry about drivers watching Porn while they drive!
What's the point?
-Chuckles Barnes
Can we use inefficient circuits that build up a lot of heat to defrost the windshield (I know there is already tech to do this...its a joke!)
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Imagine that your house is your computer!
Yes, now the whole neighborhood will know when I am looking at porn. This is a wonderful idea.
My other computer is a Jacquard loom.
There aren't any frigging pictures in this article (like many posted for /.)! Where is the love for geek pr0n?
... amazingly ... no pictures. Even Einstein gazed and was in awe of the night sky to his naked eye despite the more pragmatic applications of the universe. It's geek pr0n people! It rules! Give us pics!
Might as well give us the info on a brand new linux distro with an outstanding desktop experience and then
or something...
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"Or a truly active windshield display in the car."
your stuffed when it blue screens!
moo
Gooooooooooo TIT!
The first big product using this technology will be a high end video card with some embedded LEDs for great justice.
It will be targetted at case modders, but will appeal to everyone because it looks so damn sexy.
Imagine something truely usefull, like a display that a surgeon place over the patients body with possible realtime x-ray infromation and/or other stats, letting them whats really going on instead of working almost blind. Think really non-invasive surgury. This has some wonderfull potential, and not just for general use.
insert required Star Trek reference here
So we're going to get new technology from a university named TIT? At least MIT sounds more prestigious.
...and Apple will make a computer that looks like a big ice cube.
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...your next upgrade. erm we have a problem!
Finally! Now the paper I buy at the story can get viruses too! Electronic paper, the last thing I ever thought I might want. But hey, there is a plus to this. We could develop see through clothes with built in heaters right? Back enough transistors into the cloth and it's like your standing inside of a space heater!
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i'm kinda leary of that, what happens if something cracks your windshield on the expressway and damages the circuits?
Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed the acronym for the Tokyo Institute of Technology?
for things like flat-panel displays -- the circuitry and the screen in one single unit like a thick piece of paper, for example -- but I can't see the advantage of making a house out of something more efficiently handled by a central server and wireless link.
Honey, we need to upgrade the house, its over 2 years old...
Imagine the horror of dying in a head on collision because a sudden and aggressive Ford popup ad took control of your car stereo's volume control and made you flinch.
simulated film at eleven....
If you think
You rant about not having pictures of transparent items?
I'd hate to be your employee.
But I would hate to be from that school: Tokyo Institute of Technology. A MIT like naming scheme could be problematic...
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espionage. The only problem with such tech is that you still need to power it, and that'll expose it.
will soon be a reality!
This could have a good impact on flat screen technology where you put the electronics on the piece of glass/plastic the covers the LCD display. So you can probably make it 1/3 thiner by doubling the plastic cover with the circuit board.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
The window is the computer is the window :-)
If I had the mod points I did yeterday, you would be moderated up. LOL! The unexpected effects of technology...
I can't see this happening.
"...making it suitable for flat expanses of electronics such as massive display surfaces or walls with embedded networking" Sounds like they're talking about turning movie screens into giant processors.
The question now is what would we want our movie screens to do?
Imagine that your house is your computer!
Welcome to Dayworld, where your house and everything in it is integrated and on-line 24x7 (even if you aren't).
Imagine that, embed the processors into the radiators! If the house is getting a little cold, you know you need to turn on the SETI screensavers!
Are you local? There's nothing for you here!
...about transparent circuits, I immediately think "wearable computing" and how I could watch the stock ticker scrolling accross my boss' secretary's...
Ah, never mind.
What will the Chinese think of next?
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If you have to ask, you probably can't afford it.
"Or a truly active windshield display in the car" I'd hate to get a rock chip while i'm playing solitaire.
...because my house isn't transparent.
I'm sure this will do wonders for the already outrageous cost of windshield replacements.
And of course there will be the whole aftermarket of MOD'd windshields.
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I'm sure the paranoid among us will now be able to associate any two conspiracies.
Therapist: Yes, but how could the mafia know about your abduction by the aliens under the instruction of NATO?
'noid: Transparent wireless webcams, man! They're like, freakin' everywhere!
Remember, just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean there isn't an army of invisible psychic ninjas watching your every... (*****) sorry, the army of invisible psychic ninjas has warned me to discontinue this message.
Where's my lithium...
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"d'Oh!" ~Homer
Today's IC's are designed with a layer of semicounductor and multiple layers of metal for wiring between devices. Does anyone know of a transparent conductive material? Without that, I can't imagine one would be able to design much of anything worthwhile.
Imagine sheets of this stuff in a book, with a HD, RAM, CPU, wireless nic in the spine. Now you have a book that is any book. No more scrolling, and loosing your place. You use a familliar and powerful user interface that's been with us since the scroll days. Remember what page youre on. Open right to the spot, instead of clicking and scrolling all day. The worst thing about computers today is the display technology. I want digital wallpaper. Watch movies on your living room wall. Setup a slow, subtle screensaver pattern for ur cieling for a date (you remember dates don't you?). Couple this with voice control, and you have one better than Captain Picard's viewscreen (except you don't have his processor, knowledge base, or storage capacity). Make it so.
I wonder if the Tokyo Institute of Technology uses the same acronym convention as the Massachusettes Institute of Technology...
Why would anyone want to spy on the Canadians? Secret maple syrup technology?
Tokyo Institute of Technology, the only T.I.T. you'll ever get.
Maybe they'll think "What the hell is the Canadian State Department?" (We keep changing department names every few years to confuse spies and Canadians, but it's never been called that.)
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
Gives new meaning to windows crashing.
The comment has already been made. Let's move it along people. Nothing to see here.
Personally, I've always wanted to see high tech rear view mirrors in cars. Perhaps something that could display the view from an IR camera at night, and act like a normal mirror during the day. Just one of many ideas.
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I can only imagine what the likes of steve jobs would do with this. You recall the scene from the matrix in zion control tower with the clear touch screens. clear palm pilots which resemble just a rectangulat peice of glass. eye glasses which can show tactical info without any wires going back to a cpu. just two wires through either side of the frame.
i alway thought the tokyo institue of technology should have t-shirts with TIT emblazed in big bold collegiate letters with one of those spikey circle thingies behind the lettering... their official logo/seal looks like the robot from castle in the sky.
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did I put the TV remote?!
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The slashdot crowd is slacking off here...
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Hey you got Windows in my computer....
Hey you got computers in my Windows....
Paying taxes to buy civilization is like paying a hooker to buy love.
I see you're still working with polymners.
Still? What else is there?
Transparent Aluminum?
That's the ticket, laddie.
What, you thought I was going to say something about imagining a beowulf cluster of these?
Yeah, casue the only country to ever use something for spying was China. Look at all the advanced technology the US has made to be a ble to spy on other countries, the SR-71 for example, my favorite plane. Not that I have anything wrong with spying, like Like President Regan said, "Trust but verify."
500 dollar reward for tip(s) leading to the arrest of the person(s) who stole my sig.
- Peeping Toms would be convicted of port scanning.
- "My Windows blue-screened, I have to go sweep up the pieces now."
- "I can't see outside right now, somebody's D.O.S.-ing my house..."
- Hate cleaning windows? Do it the easy way: C:\> CLS
- "Windows crashed" takes on a whole new meaning.
- Think how drafty (and unsecure!) your house would be with all those holes in your Windows.
- There's some kind of a Trojan joke here, but I can't put it together...
OK, I'm tired of this now. Someone else's turn...
kM
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"The kids next door put a softball through my window and wiped out my entire MP3 collection!"
New episode features wallpaper using the technology developed by TIT. You can change colors, pictures, patterns, etc. Move over LCDs and Plasma displays. Surround Sound meet Surround Sight!!! Awesome!!!
shut the fuck up you ignorant cunt.
Uh...using a windshield to store information such as, say, secret plans for a car, is not new. Sheesh. This was done back in the late 60's. Right, Chim Chim?
See? Technology follows fiction. Or something.
Life is short; think quickly.
The last thing I need is all my windows crashing.
Before we get integrated windshield displays, we should get at least informational GPS/sensor guidance that warns the driver the moment they stray off the roomy straight and narrow. The first "active windscreens" should disply *only* that warning info, so car culture has a chance to integrate the safety features, well before the distracting features that make these safetey features absolutely necessary come online. Just like we all learn to drink, before we learn to drive, right USans?
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I've said it before (and before that too), and I'll say it again: The traffic lights go in the cars, not on the street. Trains already do this.
As soon as the assessed risk of malicious-hacker-induced auto accidents falls below that of our present streetlight system then this new system will manifest.
What are the impediments to this process? What data would be needed to model the risk of both systems?
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-shpoffo
Those Japanese people are amazing! Who needs alien technology?
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In the article on nature, they mention that it decreases its channel conductance after bending once, and then it stabilizes. However, my experience with ITO films is that they crack after lots of bending and become unreliable. this is not the same as ITO, but I suspect it may have the same problems.
Polymers can handle the bending because they are long chains that overlap with each other and maintain conductivity during bending quite easily, although the conductivity is still quite low compared to copper.
I am waiting for the technology of Eikos to hit the market, which is based on carbon nanotubes and can be actually folded and still conducts.
an embedded heating element in the front windshield just like comes standard in all cars for the rear windshield!! For that matter, what's wrong with existing technology to provide that? Those lines don't impair my vision out the back of the car, so why think they would impair vision out the front of the car? Or is there another reason altogether (such as it might weaken the forward windshield enough that it was unsafe -- to which I'd reply "then make it thicker!" -- etc.?)
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Now those transparent card shaped computer components on Star Trek are one step closer to reality!
It's Maximillian from The Black Hole!
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Sorry, but SR-71s suck. they don't have anything that goes VRRRRRRRRRRRP. Your A-10, that's baby.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
We could have transparent aluminum!!!
Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
Will this help me see the Tron guys on motorcyles inside my computer? Cause right now they're tiny and they keep hiding inside capacitors.
Someday a Slashdot ID of 177180 will mean something.
Yeah, after our PM sold us out to the Yanks in the 50s, our aerospace went to hell... We had the Arrow, the Iroquois engine and the CARDE project.
Transparent alumnium held a lot of promise and was developed in the 1980s by a Professor Scott
Take a look at the XB-70... You might have a new favorite plane. And it could drop nuclear weapons instead of going VRRRPP.
I keep hearing all this feel-good nonsense pushed by companies trying to sell these gadgets.
They keep saying that this new technology will make drivers safer. Yet in reality when this stuff comes to the market, people just find a way to use this stuff that makes them WORSE drivers!
Remember when LCD screens were going to help people navigate? Now they end up missing their turn because they're busy watching TV on the screen that's supposed to be giving them directions.
Remember when cell phones would make travelling safer because you could call a tow truck from the side of the road? Now people just chat away on their phone while driving and they don't pay attention to the road. After they ram their 5,000 lb SUV into a wall they'll need the tow truck for sure, now.
How about we remove all these distractions and make people actually DRIVE their car! While these gadgets have *potential* good uses, in reality nothing is more dangerous than a person not paying attention to what they're doing.
Keep real safety features on a car and do away with the things that make them more dangerous. No watching TV while you're driving, no playing video games, no talking on the phone. Drive.
The lines would impair vision in the front because you're a lot closer to it and so the lines will appear thicker. Also you move a lot faster going forward than in reverse, you should be looking further ahead when driving so you know how to react when you get to that point and of course the further ahead you're looking the smaller things appear. Lines will get in the way.
I wonder how they accomplish this... since a material which is transparent for optical photons should have a very high bandgap (>4eV), i.e. should behave much like an isolator at room temperature.
Has anyone more information about that?
Jerry
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I think its because of the distraction, there is no way the heating element can be placed and not distract you, the reason why you can easily use it in the rear windshield is because you dont need that much of a focus through it and because its futher away it the lines appear smaller. I believe the best excample is bathroom tiles, if you stare at them long enough you get that wonderfull 3D experience that was so popular some years ago, now imagine that while doing 60mp/h (about and around 100km/h for us metric people) or more. Now, one might argue that only happens if the lines are vertical. Then what about horizontal, well, I simply forgot how to argue against that one, but I'm pretty sure I knew how. *sigh*
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OK - I admit that using this in the windscreen of a car would be a stupid idea in the most part.....
:-)
however, I am thinking of very cheap 200in flat/flexable screens
Projectors have too many problems - very expensive bulbs, sensitive to stray light.... this would allow you to "roll-up" your screen and carry it with you.
The other point i nthe artils was "electronic paper" and the concept of an e-book. I hate reading electronic books as it is too hard to sit on the bus, on the beach (with a beer) and read something - paper is much more user friendly - a Good quality - high res e-book would be very cool.
First off the tax break was initially for Vans and trucks.
The goal of the break was to allow farmers and small business witht here purches of need equipment. At that time SUV's were nowhere near the weight they are today, and they weren't seen as a status symbol.
SO the tax break is not now, not has it ever been for 'SUVs'.
They have since changed that tax break considerably.
"...but that would mean inconveniencing SUV users a bit which is the last thing the US wants to do."
Where is your logic in that?
Why would that be true? Get off your knee jerk High horse.
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I, for one, would get one of these for my license plate as well...
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try http://www.seaspower.com/
Not true, people's windshields are covered with bugs, dings, cracks and dirt all the time anyway. The only reasont they are not there is because they would impare the "beauty" of the car when a customer sat in it at the showroom. That's it.
There is another reason. It adds to the cost a fair bit. Rear windshields are more expensive to replace, but due to their location in the rear they do not need to be replaced nearly as often as the front.
That's the way someone explained it to me, anyway... makes some sense...
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hmm if only this tech had been around when i was in high school... just sit there in class with your sunglasses on, watching a movie while bullshitting some bio test :D
Cube farms will be replaced with phonebooth farms. Many employess are in fact poking the walls in a vain attempt to escape, some employees, however, are actually working on their computers.
There's a Christian university someplace called Furman University. Supposedly one of their sports teams used to be called the Christian Knights, but now it's just the Paladins.
I think something along the lines of this. Of course, the Americans have already cited it as a source, and a reason they don't have to be dependent on the East, but we haven't said a damn word about selling it yet, and you can bet ol Ralph will jack up the price higher than the Saudis did.
Books even older than, er.. Books!
Seriously though, that's a really good idea. I remember reading something in Popular Science (the sharper image catalog with articles) a few years ago about technology that did it one better:
The pages themselves were the memory.. you loaded the book into the book and the bits were stored in pigmentation cells of some kind, like an octopus i gathered. I don't know if it was two way or not, but after loading, the thing wouldn't need a power source.
I think they called it electronic paper or somesuch. Anyway, I'm still waiting.
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Imagine having a wallpaper in your entertainment room that is capable of surrounding you with the movie you are watching and have surround sound to go with it. Now that would be awesome!!!
I don't know if I'm Turing dreaming I'm a window, or a window dreaming that I'm Turing!
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Anyone have another link for it?
GPS overlays may not be too great... especially if the GPS coordinates are not perfectly correlated with road map information. You can get into accidents that way, if you rely on possibly inaccurate information too much.
Reson why a drunk does not get as hurt as every one else is that they don't react fast enough to tighten up there mussle before impacked so they don't get hurt as much.
HMM RELEX when going to crash and you will be better off.(how and heck do you get the human mind to do that)
The point is that impending doom would be less likely to be doom if it did this and the human did not freek out.