But I don't like the idea that the wheels of justice need to roll so fast that any and all evidence may be thrown out because it doesn't meet some arbitrary deadline.
That wasn't an analogy. That was an argument.
You haven't been paying attention. SCO has spent the past few years jiggering the deadlines and what they file when with regards to them. They aren't the victim here; here too they are the villian and both IBM and the judge are just getting plenty sick and tired of their overt; and abusive, legal gaming.
No, it's worse than that. This is what actually passes for science. If you simply throw out both precision and accuracy you get. ..more laws and another grant.
Can they figure out a way of manufacturing food in mass quantities with minimal raw materials. That is, you have a factory to which u supply water, esentail minerals (mined ore?) that contain iron etc, and electricty and out the other end comes out a starch like carbohydrate and nutrients.
Hey, I've still got a dashiki and beads . . . somewhere, I think. At least I don't remember throwing them out. They're still hip, aren't they? Found myself watching that AARP auto insurance ad the other day and thinking, "Doesn't apply to me. I'm not that. . . Oh. Fuck."
Aaaaaaaaaaaanyway, although I've got Linux running on a box I assembled myself with some hardware attached that a hand built myself, I set up my mom (whose oldest grandchild is 26) with a Mac.
Didn't cost her a dime, 'cause it's the "kids" who set up granny with a Mac. They know it's a granny box.
And it's not the baby boomers who are grandparents anyway. They aren't that . . . Oh. Fuck. Nevermind.
Actually, to be honest, there is no **REAL** reason to upgrade. ..
Yes, that's the point. You're not supposed to even be able think that to point it out. Microsoft sells sizzle, not steak. They need people to care, or the whole thing comes tumbling down.
Although the case is losing it's entertainment value as freak show, with Microsoft effectively paying for the lawyers on both sides it manages to become even weirder.
I wouldn't worry though, with the Novell deal it's to Microsoft's advantage to have as many IP rights in Novell's pocket as is possible. Interesting timing on that deal, no?
The key point being that although the case does not go before a jury the disposition of the matter is handled by a ruling of the court, not by settlement. SCO does not surrender, they lose, which is what IBM wanted, and they lose in such a way that they are not merely crushed, but obliterated. Oh, and derided as well. That's the part that's going to be fun to watch. The kicking of the corpse.
As others have pointed out remuneration to IBM for their counterclaims are likely going to have to be made through SCO's bankruptcy procedings. What assets does SCO have on the table after all the money is gone?
The UNIX rights, man. The UNIX rights! (whatever the hell they actually are). They're either going to IBM or back to Novell.
baseball is not the same as a sword block like you are saying, by that I mean blocks in a KOTOR type game would be often and rapid compared to the one-shot nature of a baseball hit.
Push a Hot Wheels car around on your desk. Now go out and play in traffic and get pushed around by a car going 60 mph.
The former can be simulated with a force feedback mouse. The latter cannot.
Perhaps that's not the sort of empirical experiment you would be happy with. Try this:
Get a baseball, a baseball bat and a T-ball tee. Whack the ball off the tee. Remember how that felt.
Now get a baseball bat, a cinderblock and a sturdy end table. Whack the cinderblock off the of the table.
You'll note right the, ummmmmm, right off the bat there is a difference in the experience. The impact with the cinderblock is much shorter in time than with the baseball.
There'll be some other differences as well, but I don't want to spoil the surprise. Just go try it for yourself.
Isn't that more an example of doublethink than cognitive dissonance? I thought cognitive dissonance involved some process of trying to resolve the dissonance?
Yes. The true cognitive disonance comes when you try to talk to him about it. Watch his reaction. Don't ever expect to be able to have a rational discussion with him again. The mere sight of you will be a trigger.
People who truely "ignore" the evidence don't ever really experience cognitive dissonance. That's what denial exists to avoid. Cognative dissonance is that unpleasant feeling of anxiety you get by trying to internally resolve two accepted, but mutually exclusive, ideas, whereas ignoring the evidence is a delusion which brings unshakable calm; and why give up unshakable calm for anxiety? You'd have to be nuts to acknowledge reality for that sort of payback, wouldn't you? Hence evidence against creation in a way strenthens the case for creation in the mind of the creationist. "I believe it because it is absurd."
It's interesting to note that even Richard Dawkins is forthright in stating that before Darwin he cannot imagine being an atheist, because creation at least puts forward some sort of explanation for what you observe and the idea of observables without an explanation is something he cannot comprehend being able to tolerate. Even supremely rational thinkers (indeed, sometimes because they are supremely rational thinkers) may fall prey to delusion because it brings comfort.
The great thing about a universal, all powerful God is that he's a universal bandaid.
Annnnnnnyway . . . a classic example of cognitive disonance is the mother who wants to give her child candy, because that will make the child happy and her a good mother, but knows that candy is bad for the child, which would make her a bad mother. Of course denying the child candy may make the child upset . . . round and round and round we go.
Somewhere in here you are likely to find transference. The mother gets angry at the child, either to apparent excess or for "no reason."
Yes, it's quite possible that what she said was true. She yelled and smacked you because she loves you.
Go re-read Huxley's book and realize that the world he describes would be quite welcomed by a majority in many countries today.
A little while ago I actually had an economics sophomore explaining the glory of "the less stitches, the more riches" to me. It made my skin crawl, but after some Zoloft I felt a lot better.
Three shifts? I wish. The great thing about working on the Internet is that someone, somewhere in the world, thinks I've just come back from lunch no matter what time it is here.
The great thing about working from home is that you get to choose which 168 hours a week you're going to work.
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But I don't like the idea that the wheels of justice need to roll so fast that any and all evidence may be thrown out because it doesn't meet some arbitrary deadline.
That wasn't an analogy. That was an argument.
You haven't been paying attention. SCO has spent the past few years jiggering the deadlines and what they file when with regards to them. They aren't the victim here; here too they are the villian and both IBM and the judge are just getting plenty sick and tired of their overt; and abusive, legal gaming.
KFG
No, it's worse than that. This is what actually passes for science. If you simply throw out both precision and accuracy you get. . .more laws and another grant.
KFG
Can they figure out a way of manufacturing food in mass quantities with minimal raw materials. That is, you have a factory to which u supply water, esentail minerals (mined ore?) that contain iron etc, and electricty and out the other end comes out a starch like carbohydrate and nutrients.
It's called a potato field.
KFG
Do dog turds sizzle?
During the demo.
KFG
Hey, I've still got a dashiki and beads . . . somewhere, I think. At least I don't remember throwing them out. They're still hip, aren't they? Found myself watching that AARP auto insurance ad the other day and thinking, "Doesn't apply to me. I'm not that. . . Oh. Fuck."
Aaaaaaaaaaaanyway, although I've got Linux running on a box I assembled myself with some hardware attached that a hand built myself, I set up my mom (whose oldest grandchild is 26) with a Mac.
Didn't cost her a dime, 'cause it's the "kids" who set up granny with a Mac. They know it's a granny box.
And it's not the baby boomers who are grandparents anyway. They aren't that . . . Oh. Fuck. Nevermind.
KFG
Actually, to be honest, there is no **REAL** reason to upgrade. . .
Yes, that's the point. You're not supposed to even be able think that to point it out. Microsoft sells sizzle, not steak. They need people to care, or the whole thing comes tumbling down.
KFG
Although the case is losing it's entertainment value as freak show, with Microsoft effectively paying for the lawyers on both sides it manages to become even weirder.
I wouldn't worry though, with the Novell deal it's to Microsoft's advantage to have as many IP rights in Novell's pocket as is possible. Interesting timing on that deal, no?
KFG
The key point being that although the case does not go before a jury the disposition of the matter is handled by a ruling of the court, not by settlement. SCO does not surrender, they lose, which is what IBM wanted, and they lose in such a way that they are not merely crushed, but obliterated. Oh, and derided as well. That's the part that's going to be fun to watch. The kicking of the corpse.
As others have pointed out remuneration to IBM for their counterclaims are likely going to have to be made through SCO's bankruptcy procedings. What assets does SCO have on the table after all the money is gone?
The UNIX rights, man. The UNIX rights! (whatever the hell they actually are). They're either going to IBM or back to Novell.
KFG
. . .a more neutral/appropriate headline might make this a more reputable site.
What, and ruin it's reputation? I don't think so.
KFG
I've read my Ogilvy. Perhaps I should have capitalized the "m".
The people you (and Bill Hicks) were thinking of are the people in Public Relations. THEY'RE bloodsuckers.
Now you've gone and insulted the vampires. Good luck to you.
KFG
I don't need to buy groceries. I have land
KFG
How much does a Slashvertisement run these days?
Your immortal soul, which, of course, means that if you're actually in marketing they're free.
KFG
baseball is not the same as a sword block like you are saying, by that I mean blocks in a KOTOR type game would be often and rapid compared to the one-shot nature of a baseball hit.
Push a Hot Wheels car around on your desk. Now go out and play in traffic and get pushed around by a car going 60 mph.
The former can be simulated with a force feedback mouse. The latter cannot.
Perhaps that's not the sort of empirical experiment you would be happy with. Try this:
Get a baseball, a baseball bat and a T-ball tee. Whack the ball off the tee. Remember how that felt.
Now get a baseball bat, a cinderblock and a sturdy end table. Whack the cinderblock off the of the table.
You'll note right the, ummmmmm, right off the bat there is a difference in the experience. The impact with the cinderblock is much shorter in time than with the baseball.
There'll be some other differences as well, but I don't want to spoil the surprise. Just go try it for yourself.
KFG
I'd recommend the three Pragmatic books instead of you have the time for that much reading.
And if you don't, guess what?
Surprise! You're a code monkey, not a programmer.
Which is all well and good if that is the path you chose in the first place. It's a living and someone has to do the assembly line type of work.
But if you had something else in mind when you were 16 sitting in your room at 3 A.M. thinking "Oh, wow man!" it's time to make some changes.
KFG
Jessica Simpson is acting out a scene from the Dukes of Hazzard movie
Ahhhhhhhhhhh! This is the part I was actually ignorant of. I shall place that in the "Pros" column of my personal qualities chart.
KFG
Isn't that more an example of doublethink than cognitive dissonance? I thought cognitive dissonance involved some process of trying to resolve the dissonance?
Yes. The true cognitive disonance comes when you try to talk to him about it. Watch his reaction. Don't ever expect to be able to have a rational discussion with him again. The mere sight of you will be a trigger.
People who truely "ignore" the evidence don't ever really experience cognitive dissonance. That's what denial exists to avoid. Cognative dissonance is that unpleasant feeling of anxiety you get by trying to internally resolve two accepted, but mutually exclusive, ideas, whereas ignoring the evidence is a delusion which brings unshakable calm; and why give up unshakable calm for anxiety? You'd have to be nuts to acknowledge reality for that sort of payback, wouldn't you? Hence evidence against creation in a way strenthens the case for creation in the mind of the creationist. "I believe it because it is absurd."
It's interesting to note that even Richard Dawkins is forthright in stating that before Darwin he cannot imagine being an atheist, because creation at least puts forward some sort of explanation for what you observe and the idea of observables without an explanation is something he cannot comprehend being able to tolerate. Even supremely rational thinkers (indeed, sometimes because they are supremely rational thinkers) may fall prey to delusion because it brings comfort.
The great thing about a universal, all powerful God is that he's a universal bandaid.
Annnnnnnyway . . . a classic example of cognitive disonance is the mother who wants to give her child candy, because that will make the child happy and her a good mother, but knows that candy is bad for the child, which would make her a bad mother. Of course denying the child candy may make the child upset . . . round and round and round we go.
Somewhere in here you are likely to find transference. The mother gets angry at the child, either to apparent excess or for "no reason."
Yes, it's quite possible that what she said was true. She yelled and smacked you because she loves you.
KFG
I myself rather look forward to being your mammoth hunting overlord.
Kneel before me, or starve, worm.
KFG
Go for it, Sparky. But I warn ya, under the silicone it's shiney and metal.
KFG
I can't wait to see us beat the Poms in 1080p full color :)
I totally don't know what that means, but I want it.
KFG
Go re-read Huxley's book and realize that the world he describes would be quite welcomed by a majority in many countries today.
A little while ago I actually had an economics sophomore explaining the glory of "the less stitches, the more riches" to me. It made my skin crawl, but after some Zoloft I felt a lot better.
KFG
the talking head said it is only used for drug-related crimes so evidence isn't destroyed.
Zoom in as the door to the National Archives Building is being kicked in:
The Supremes: Fourth Amenedment? What Forth Amendment?
(Sound of toilet flusing in the background)
Fade Out
KFG
Snail mail is the ONLY private form of communications we have left.
Unless you are deemed "suspicious." It's a Brave New World.
KFG
I see it as more people having "something" to do with their time
A lovely young lady of my acquaintence is one hell of a little piano player.
She grew up in one of those little dying dipshit towns out in the boonies with two diners; and one of them is boarded up.
She told me that she learned to play the piano just to have "something" to do with her time. It's now her life and her career.
Think about it.
KFG
. . .more like 24/7 in three shifts
Three shifts? I wish. The great thing about working on the Internet is that someone, somewhere in the world, thinks I've just come back from lunch no matter what time it is here.
The great thing about working from home is that you get to choose which 168 hours a week you're going to work.
KFG
. . .even books.
Music, video and still art are over there.
Books are right here.
KFG