> Heaven forbid teachers we required to teach things that are factually correct...
Even better would be if they would actually teach some of the fundamentals of our form of government. Teach what a Republic is and what a Democracy is and the important differences between them. Teach the difference between the Rule of Law as enshrined in our Constitution entails and what the Rule of Men we now have is and why that is important to them.
Hell, these days if the kids graduate knowing we have three branches of government and can actually name them correctly they are ahead of the average voter.
> The $499 16GB iPad, by all estimations, costs under $250 to manufacture.
I'd be shocked to find Apple paying more than $175 for em off the docks in China and I'd put my money on $150. That is for the basic WiFi version.
Listen up folks, there ain't nothing in a tablet. Compare a typical low end netbook that retails for $300 to a typical tablet.
Tablet has a touchscreen, and motion sensor over a netbook. The OS is basically free if Android or the Apple Tax if a iPad. The whole point of ARM was lower part count, reduced board size and cheap so we will assume the electronics is less expensive in a tablet.
The netbook has a big ass battery to keep an expensive x86 processor, chipset and GPU going for a couple of hours. It also has a more complex case including a keyboard and pointer. And on top of all that there is the Windows Tax.
Tablet vendors have been gouging since the only real competitor was Apple and they are selling the shit out of the iPad at insane prices (meaning insanely great margins to drive the insanely high market cap) and are hoping to get a taste of those margins while there are only a couple of products that have hit the stores in any quantity. This story is a sign that market forces are likely to start working more normally. $250-$350 tablets by Xmas that have capacitive touchscreens, motion sensors and robust ARM chips is my prediction.
Blah, blah. Neither of us know enough to say but I am smart enough to observe what the people who DO know are doing. They are building peaking power plants and not batteries. They aren't building flywheels either. And yes I too read that long ago that somebody had hit on the idea to run pumps at night to push water back uphill so they could run the hydro plant during the day when demand was high. But I never read just how efficient that process was, just that it allowed them to meet the peak power demands without building another plant.
As for home solar, pointless. The only reason anybody is doing it is because a) they live in an area where the government provides a massive subsidy or b) are doing to prove to everyone how green they are or c) are part of a research project aimed at eventually making it practica or finally d) have no choice because their location is off the grid. At current PV prices you have no hope of competing with the grid.
> Wind is available all along the coasts, which, for the US, happens to also be close to the majority of the population.
Which is also close to the majority of the environmentalists, making those locations out of bounds unless we start shooting greens. And no we can't just outvote them, as they have a tendency to go terrorist if they don't get their way so we would end up shooting them. And if we can work up the will to shoot the enviros we can just skip a step and just drill for dead dinosaurs off those same coasts and stick the windmills on top of the rigs when the wells run dry.
Look into the efficiency of a battery sometime. Unless you buy really expensive ones you lose about half of the energy putting it into and getting it back out. More losses if you are putting in AC and needing AC back out. And the really good (from an efficiency pov) lithium-ion batteries don't suffer many charge discharge cycles before hitting the 50% capacity point generally considered as replacement time. We currently have zero methods to store electricity that are cheap enough and effective enough for use on the grid. All electricity is generated as needed, with vast arrays of 'peaking power' generation capacity that largely sits idle. Believe me, if there were a good way to store electricity the industry would be using it already.
Worse, while electricity can be sent large distances, it is best to generate close to the point of use because of the line losses. So even if we were willing (and shot enough enviromentalists) to cover our deserts with solar arrays we would lose most of the power heating the lines getting it to where the customers are. Same for wind, it mostly occurs in areas where there aren't many people... or more accurately windmills near populated areas attracts more environmentalists.
If you are using concentrators you either take a huge loss because solar cell output drops off at high temp (and suffer shortened service life) or you end up with a cooling system for the cells. Once you have the cooling system you should just yield to the physics and accept that the best use of concentrated sunlight is in heat, not direct conversion to electricity. Solar cells only convert a few frequencies (three in the article for this story) while dumping the light over to heat uses much more of the spectrum..
> I think you severely under estimate how long it would take to scan / malware install over the entire ipv6 address space...
To be so naive again.... they will adapt. Almost certainly before IPv6 spreads to average end points. Server logs will become the new hot item to steal. The webbugs in spam will be a rich trove of IP usage, etc. Then they will start hacking routers so they can see the traffic passing through. Huge lists of active addresses will pass around the underground. And remember, for the customer to receive the benefit their address will be basically static. And to be found at all there is going to have to be DNS or some other service that is aware of you. All IPv6 stops is mindless block scanning against dynamic ip blocks.
You know all that tech stuff. I know all that tech stuff. Explain to typical cable modem customer why they should care enough to not only pay more or replace hardware but to agitate to get their cable company to implement IPv6. Reread what I wrote, that last part was cast as how a large ISP that is in the content business (as every cable provider and most DSL providers are) will be evaluating the decision. Spend billions on something customers don't realize a need for and cost your content side of the house even more billions or roll out another layer of NAT when IP blocks start becoming too expensive to obtain. Or better, when SELLING off your customer's current IP blocks become more profitable than the NAT boxes. Now remember that the decision won't be made by the ISP's tech people but by the pointed haired bosses. Forget IPv6, ain't happening here. If the rest of the world (who are far more pressed for IPv4 addresses) do it to the point Americans can't reach content something might get done, not sooner. But if the content is attracting non-trivial traffic from the US there is probably enough money to get it up on an IPv4 host.
It is like the death of analog TV. With the combination of government handouts and force most people converted over a decade. BUt not without several retreats in the "Deadline" and there were still people up in arms when the analog signals disappeared.
Same for analog cell service. Right up until the drop dead date there were still areas out here in flyover country running analog only. And again that was government force at work, because they wanted to resell the spectrum and could force the previous users out.
Where is the drop dead date for IPv4? Who would even be in a position to declare one? Won't happen. Sure with enough slipped mandate dates and enough fraud and waste the government will eventually convert to IPv6. But every last.gov and.mil site intended for a general Internet audience will have an IPv4 address.
And the benefit is? Bouncing all of your traffic around like that is just adding latency. Until there are resources only reachable by IPv6 most people aren't going to get interested enough for ISPs to offer it native.
Where is the upside for a customer in caring about ipv6? Will they want to decloak when/if ipv6 becomes popular? OMG, my PC is broadcasting an IP address, of course I want your wonderful product to protect me! All ipv6 would do is get every Windows PC pwn3d twenty four hours after deployment and then everyone retreats behind a NAT and dynamic IP again, this time grafted onto ipv6. Or no ipv6 for end users. What is going to happen is that as addresses get tight the big ISPs will put residential users on 10/8 nets and double NAT just like they have been doing overseas for years and on mobile phones since day one. That will free up enough addresses for servers for the indefinite future. And end the open Internet as we have known it. P2P is over, end users consume content like they are supposed to and content producers produce content like they are supposed to. Or we implement IPv6 at a cost of billions in a down economy and uncork the P2P genie again along with untold new services once any host can reach any host as the Internet originally intended.. Put that way it is a real easy decision for the large players isn't it.
OpenWrt makes you install the ipv6 packages yourself in the interest of keeping the base image small, after all almost nobody needs ipv6 currently. And I suspect Cisco/Linksys is right about the impact on the lower end of their range, even running OpenWrt. I'd have to see a Wrt54GL install the ipv6 packages and actually run under load to believe it. As for their current retail products running on half the ram? Not bloody likely. Me, I'm running a D-Link DIR-825 with 64MB of ram in it, I could probably load the OpenWRT ipv6 packages without a problem.... but AT&T has said word zero about support for IPv6 for residential DSL customers so I'm keeping the 1.3MB of remaining flash open for other stuff.
> A vigilante, regardless of motivations, is a vigilante.
More like common vandals. If you wouldn't cheer em rampaging in a mob with fireaxes and making off with file cabinets you shouldn't be cheering them doing essentially the same smash and grab and sticking an i, cyber- or some such hip prefix that boils down to the same ol 'take something ordinary stick "on the Internet" on and call it new and fresh. (And probably patentable but that is a rant for another thread.)
They aren't vigilantes anymore when they attack someone for the sole reason they were investigating them. That is so clearly across the moral line the only reason more people don't see it is they agree so strongly with Anonymous's stated political goals it blinds them. Gotham PD gets tired of Batman's vigilante tactics and decides to track him down and arrest him. He shoots Gordon in the face when he shows up at Wayne Manor with a warrant. Goodbye Batman, hello Supervillan looking for a new name.
Sure it uses more cardboard than a basic box. So like most 'green' projects it is a fail, but as a useful selling feature it might be a win.
Just as you say, testing. I'd suspect that box is at least as easy to work in as most small form factor cases. Just open the box, populate the slots, connect a power supply and fire it up. For those who still buy in shops it probably wouldn't be too much bother to plug everything together right in the place and smoke test. So you could carry it all home in one box knowing it all actually fits together and runs.
And yea I could see just leaving it in that box for some applications. If the trend caught on it wouldn't really be much more expense to use coated cardboard or even fiberboard. Higher end motherboards already tend to come in fairly heavy duty packaging. Work in a thin foil layer somewhere to solve the RFI issues and a proper case truly would be optional for a lot of folks. Put the ad copy on a thin paper overwrap that rips off cleanly and gets discarded leaving the box printed with pretty but professional case like artwork.
You are missing the point. No mobile browser trying to cope with a huge (by phone standards) screen, regular Firefox. Give folks some time to hack and even if Moto doesn't ship it out of the box you will have Openoffice.org (or whatever fork ends up shipping) and not some pocket mostly view only app that can muddle through a Word doc. Adobe's normal desktop Reader is only a recompile away, enough users holler and it will turn up. And so on. Moto was afraid to just turn loose a normal Linux desktop on the docked head (Display/keyboard/pointer) but unless it flops so fast the hackers don't get a chance to fix that mistake in design, a full Linux desktop will soon be available. And then just pop it out of the dock and take it with you as a phone. And then someone will provide more merge features to let you get at the Linux desktop on the phone display.
> Huh? Are you seriously advocating that law enforcement break into computer systems of suspicious companies?
Yes that is exactly what the anarchists are calling for. Being morons the irony totally escapes them of course. Yea Anonymous! Sticking it to The Man! Hack their systems and reveal all of their dirty secrets.... That they are in the business of helping the government hack into enemies and steal their secrets. Pot, meet Kettle.
> If you live in the USA and you don't like it, the folks in Egypt, Libya, et al are showing us what it takes to effect change in government.
Yup, just remember that more often than not you don't like the results of a revolution. For every US Revolutionary War you get France (Napoleon), Russia (Stalin), Cuba (Castro), Iran (Khomani[sp]), Russia (Putin). Are they sometimes the only option? Yup, but be very certain on that point because yes it can get worse. And usually gets far worse than anyone thought it could.
Egypt has managed to trade a dictator for a Junta. Time will tell whether it works out for em. Libya is almost certain to end up trading dictators; if they get a more sane one it could be an improvement but again we just don't know yet. But the odds of a real Republic, with rule of law, free and open elections and all that stuff happening in any middle eastern country is pretty much zilch. After spending uncounted treasure AND having a major military presence in Iraq they might be close to establishing a government that has a snowball's chance in Hell of lasting a year beyond the removal of the last US military unit. But the smart money is on a dictator or Islamic Theocracy ruling Iraq five years after we leave.
> Anyone want to put up some money on the "Sure, there will be an investigation" side?
Not me. Because I just read the whole article and didn't see the "Wrongdoing" Slashdot is headlining. Democrats will of course take every opportunity to posture in front of the TV cameras so they will yell and scream a bit, safe in the knowledge that they won't be asked "wheres the beef" by the legacy media. So stay away from Breitbart and Fox and it' still just like the 20th Century.
We have a company developing rootkits and other dangerous tech for use by the government agencies that license it from them. Wrongdoing? Where. YEs rootkits are dangerous in the wrong hands, but they were selling to the government. Lots of companies sell lots of dangerous things to the government every day, nothing wrong with that. They proposed a lot of other ideas, some sounded workable, others less so. Some were funded, some weren't. Wrongdoing? Where? Then they took it on themselves to look into the doings of Anonymous, an organization that is unquestionably on the wrong side of the law, and got counterattacked and had lots of private emails leaked. Ok, here is wrongdoing but not on the part of HBGary Federal.
> Yes, Iranians believe the antichrist will one day come and the apocalypse will happen,
The problem is what you call the antichrist they call the Mahdi. And they want the apocalypse for much the same reason they strap bombs onto their children, this life has no value. Even if you forget the religious aspects (foolish, since THEY believe it) actions speak clearly. Mutual Assured Destruction is not likely to be a deterrent against fundamentalist Islam because they don't object to dying. The Soviets did value their lives, being atheists they valued it if anything more than the West, and thus could be deterred by the threat of an exchange of bombs.
> Iranians support this ruling and generally don't think the country's program is for anything but actual legal nuclear power.
And sensible people have some really good reasons to question that. Their current leaders are Twelvers, that is reason one. Second their stated purpose of peaceful electrical power generation is hard to believe in a country with vast proven energy reserves, especially when burning off natural gas as a waste product in far too many cases instead of using it to fire turbines. If you aren't importing energy or otherwise forced into it (such as by enviros) the economic case for atomic power is pretty shaky. With almost total control of media in the country it is indeed possible the general population actually believes the official line as to the intentions for peaceful use. But we would be fools to believe it.
As for Ayatollah Khomeini, he also condemed the Twelvers as dangerous, didn't stop them from getting their hands on the levers of power in Iran after his death now did it?
> some religious kooks who think some invisible mahdi dude will reappear at armageddeon, with freaking NUCLEAR BOMB?!
It is actually worse for the twelvers to have bombs vs some crazed Pentecostals having the bomb because the twelvers believe they can actually cause the chaos that leads to their end times scenario. Most Christians, even the end times types, would reject the notion that they can 'force God's hand', most even reject the notion we can know when the big kaboom is coming exactly. Not saying if they did have the bomb a couple couldn't manage to convince themselves they were God's chosen instrument, hearing the voice of God in their dental fillings or whatever. What I am saying is IAmANutJob is saying, loud, proud and notoriously at the UN on live tv, he can 'hasten the return of the Mahdi' now, before getting his crazy hand on The Button. When a maniac all but comes out and says "I want the world to burn" perhaps we should decide we don't need to wait and see if he means it before inducing lead poisoning.
And before some barely functioning idiot says one of the obvious rejoinders I'll go ahead and answer them.
1. Yes that is a call to assassinate a head of state.
2. Yes that is a call for the US to act like the 'policeman of the world' or something. Not that the current pussy running this joint would act against a foe. He only throws allies under the bus. (Support any foe, Oppose any friend. Sorta the mirror universe version of JFK. Obama should have a beard.)
3. No it won't ''solve' the prolifiation problem long term. But them most solutions don't solve all future problems. I don't claim to have the answer to how we all transcend to Good people who all come together in peace and fellowship, singing Kumbaya into eternity. But I do have a solution to one dangerous asshole who is soon going to have the means to trigger an event that will leave hundreds of millions of dead and dying. At the risk of Godwins law, lots of folks saw the growing problem in the 1930 and ended up inventing 'rational reasons' (rationalizations) for doing nothing. Until Reagan, all right thinking people believed the West was going to lose to the Soviets so why raise a ruckus, besides we had it coming because of [insert rationalization]. How many times does history need to repeat?
[troll] If anyone needed final proof the Iranians are batshit crazy, they built their secret nuke program on off the shelf Windows PCs and apparently didn't even take basic precautions. Guess they thought Allah would protect them in their Holy work or something. Guess the Mossad's God was bigger.:) [/troll]
> If anything, they might throw Gaddafi out by the time UN or anyone else decides to help.
The UN is a sick joke. Libya is on the Human Rights Council and they probably (the competition is fierce) aren't even the worst country on there. Always remember that the US was designed to be a Parliament of Tyrants and it makes a lot more sense. Yes designed. At the time of it's founding most nation-states were unfree hellholes and the people proposing one country one vote knew that.
> The real problem here is cross international boundary signal jamming by Libya, > that is bordering upon an act of war, really, really dangerous stuff.
Looked at a map lately? Exactly which of Libya's neighbors is in any sort of condition to object to anything right now? So that would leave somebody like us, but if The Won (motto: support any foe, oppose any friend) won't interfere over the mass murder and mayhem I seriously doubt we will go to war over radio spectrum access.
> How about the secret bombing war the US is involved in in Yemen?
It was secret but what makes it illegal? According to Wikileaks they had a deal with the government of Yemen. Where were you when Bush announced the new rules of the game included killing AQ terrorists wherever they might be hiding? That meant everywhere, regardless of whether the local government was ok with it, but in that case they apparently wanted em dead almost as badly as we did, only for different reasons which have now become obvious.
> Please point to where anybody can view these hundreds of thousands of pages.
Do you deny that Wikileaks is in possession of that number of documents? Do you deny that several major media outlets are in possession of almost as many documents as Wikileaks itself? Last time I checked Julian Assange doesn't have a US security clearance and neither does Pinch over at the NYT. It is a safe bet (Assange being a clueless nitwit) that most major foreign intelligence agencies are now in posession of the entire corpus of leaked documents.
> Manning should have gone to his CO and complained about an illegal war going on.
You keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it does. Illegal isn't a synonym for "Things progressives don't like."
> And why would they ask for this facility, unless they think that, at some time, they are going to take your money without your permission?
Because they often have to do exactly that. And yes you agreed when you checked off the EULA. And everyone sane who uses Paypal wants them to do that. What? Am I nuts? Nope.
Paypal is a weird hybrid that combines different aspects of banking. A paypal account combines a checking account, a credit card AND a credit card merchant account into something that is none of them and yet all of them.
If I buy something in a brick & mortar store with a credit card the merchant often doesn't get the money instantly, especially if he is small. He has to leave enough float to cover chargebacks or make some other arrangement with the credit card clearing company to ensure they will be made whole if a flurry of chargebacks hit. Paypal might post the money to your account quicker but does demand you have a linked checking account to charge back to. It's funny these people talking about having a second checking account to stop Paypal from cleaning em out. Idiots. They will charge back if they decide they are going to reverse a payment and you WILL pay. The difference is since you keep the second account empty you will get to pay the NSF charge too. And I suspect Paypal has other safeguards for people doing larger volumes because they would be losing millions to scammers otherwise.
> If Amazon suddenly said 'we are going to stop selling books by negro and jew authors because > they are written by negros and jews', there very well could be an issue.
Yes they would have legal problems. They shouldn't though. Am I mad? Perhaps, but Freedom that doesn't include the Right to be Wrong isn't Freedom, it is some anointed assholes telling you that they are Right and you are Wrong and if you don't agree with them bad things (government is violence) will happen to you.
Lets run the thought experiment. Amazon does exactly what you suggest in the free world I propose. What happens next? The government wouldn't be able to do a darned thing so what happens? Well the way I see it one of two basic results are possible.
1. To say the reaction from the general public is negative is the understatement of the century. Business dries up, profits tumble and the shareholders install competent management and spend the next couple of years trying to recover.
2. While losing some business they survive as a major force in retailing. We should thank them for their service in exposing the bigger problem in society because obviously there are a lot more bigots out there than anyone would have thought possible.
It is debatable whether the Civil Rights Act was constitutional but even with the benefit of hindsight it was probably the only tool available to solve the real problem that existed at the time. The Democratic Party had an iron hold over a large area of the country and was just as hellbent on their wicked ways as they were in the aftermath of the War of Southern Independence. I'm not some suicide pact libertarian, sometimes it really is required to violate the letter of the law to save it's spirit. But we need to understand that was what was happening so we can realize that if we still need it the problem probably can't be solved by government force. The best way to end discrimination by race/gender/etc really is to stop discriminating/classifying/etc people on the basis of race/gender/etc.
However just because I think it is a bad idea for the government to be imposing it's notions doesn't mean We the People shouldn't use social sanction on idiots who still refuse to get with the program. My way they still have the right to be wrong, they just suffer severe shunning for it. In many ways more severe than in the progressive world because in prog world you can't refuse to to business with someone in most areas of life (banking, housing, etc.) and in mine you could.
And will thus be used to launder money and other naughty things until the governments of the world drop on their ass just like happened to PayPal, eGold, etc. The problem is a lot of people might be interested in the ability to conduct commerce without leaving a trail but the early adopters will always be the criminals, thus making it impossible to ever get enough of a critical mass to become too big to shutdown.
So my advice to the next bright but clueless anarchist libertarians who get the idea to try to conquer this business niche is to make finding a solution to that problem their priority.
Ok, the unknown company listed turns out to be an alias (Cequel) for Suddenlink Cable that I had never heard of so they are listed. The wireless provider isn't though and they do offer service here. They rent ya a little WiFi router with the traditional four wired ports on the back and a cellular modem embedded in it.
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> Heaven forbid teachers we required to teach things that are factually correct...
Even better would be if they would actually teach some of the fundamentals of our form of government. Teach what a Republic is and what a Democracy is and the important differences between them. Teach the difference between the Rule of Law as enshrined in our Constitution entails and what the Rule of Men we now have is and why that is important to them.
Hell, these days if the kids graduate knowing we have three branches of government and can actually name them correctly they are ahead of the average voter.
> The $499 16GB iPad, by all estimations, costs under $250 to manufacture.
I'd be shocked to find Apple paying more than $175 for em off the docks in China and I'd put my money on $150. That is for the basic WiFi version.
Listen up folks, there ain't nothing in a tablet. Compare a typical low end netbook that retails for $300 to a typical tablet.
Tablet has a touchscreen, and motion sensor over a netbook. The OS is basically free if Android or the Apple Tax if a iPad. The whole point of ARM was lower part count, reduced board size and cheap so we will assume the electronics is less expensive in a tablet.
The netbook has a big ass battery to keep an expensive x86 processor, chipset and GPU going for a couple of hours. It also has a more complex case including a keyboard and pointer. And on top of all that there is the Windows Tax.
Tablet vendors have been gouging since the only real competitor was Apple and they are selling the shit out of the iPad at insane prices (meaning insanely great margins to drive the insanely high market cap) and are hoping to get a taste of those margins while there are only a couple of products that have hit the stores in any quantity. This story is a sign that market forces are likely to start working more normally. $250-$350 tablets by Xmas that have capacitive touchscreens, motion sensors and robust ARM chips is my prediction.
> That means we can make different tradeoffs...
Blah, blah. Neither of us know enough to say but I am smart enough to observe what the people who DO know are doing. They are building peaking power plants and not batteries. They aren't building flywheels either. And yes I too read that long ago that somebody had hit on the idea to run pumps at night to push water back uphill so they could run the hydro plant during the day when demand was high. But I never read just how efficient that process was, just that it allowed them to meet the peak power demands without building another plant.
As for home solar, pointless. The only reason anybody is doing it is because a) they live in an area where the government provides a massive subsidy or b) are doing to prove to everyone how green they are or c) are part of a research project aimed at eventually making it practica or finally d) have no choice because their location is off the grid. At current PV prices you have no hope of competing with the grid.
> Wind is available all along the coasts, which, for the US, happens to also be close to the majority of the population.
Which is also close to the majority of the environmentalists, making those locations out of bounds unless we start shooting greens. And no we can't just outvote them, as they have a tendency to go terrorist if they don't get their way so we would end up shooting them. And if we can work up the will to shoot the enviros we can just skip a step and just drill for dead dinosaurs off those same coasts and stick the windmills on top of the rigs when the wells run dry.
Look into the efficiency of a battery sometime. Unless you buy really expensive ones you lose about half of the energy putting it into and getting it back out. More losses if you are putting in AC and needing AC back out. And the really good (from an efficiency pov) lithium-ion batteries don't suffer many charge discharge cycles before hitting the 50% capacity point generally considered as replacement time. We currently have zero methods to store electricity that are cheap enough and effective enough for use on the grid. All electricity is generated as needed, with vast arrays of 'peaking power' generation capacity that largely sits idle. Believe me, if there were a good way to store electricity the industry would be using it already.
Worse, while electricity can be sent large distances, it is best to generate close to the point of use because of the line losses. So even if we were willing (and shot enough enviromentalists) to cover our deserts with solar arrays we would lose most of the power heating the lines getting it to where the customers are. Same for wind, it mostly occurs in areas where there aren't many people... or more accurately windmills near populated areas attracts more environmentalists.
If you are using concentrators you either take a huge loss because solar cell output drops off at high temp (and suffer shortened service life) or you end up with a cooling system for the cells. Once you have the cooling system you should just yield to the physics and accept that the best use of concentrated sunlight is in heat, not direct conversion to electricity. Solar cells only convert a few frequencies (three in the article for this story) while dumping the light over to heat uses much more of the spectrum..
> I think you severely under estimate how long it would take to scan / malware install over the entire ipv6 address space...
To be so naive again.... they will adapt. Almost certainly before IPv6 spreads to average end points. Server logs will become the new hot item to steal. The webbugs in spam will be a rich trove of IP usage, etc. Then they will start hacking routers so they can see the traffic passing through. Huge lists of active addresses will pass around the underground. And remember, for the customer to receive the benefit their address will be basically static. And to be found at all there is going to have to be DNS or some other service that is aware of you. All IPv6 stops is mindless block scanning against dynamic ip blocks.
You know all that tech stuff. I know all that tech stuff. Explain to typical cable modem customer why they should care enough to not only pay more or replace hardware but to agitate to get their cable company to implement IPv6. Reread what I wrote, that last part was cast as how a large ISP that is in the content business (as every cable provider and most DSL providers are) will be evaluating the decision. Spend billions on something customers don't realize a need for and cost your content side of the house even more billions or roll out another layer of NAT when IP blocks start becoming too expensive to obtain. Or better, when SELLING off your customer's current IP blocks become more profitable than the NAT boxes. Now remember that the decision won't be made by the ISP's tech people but by the pointed haired bosses. Forget IPv6, ain't happening here. If the rest of the world (who are far more pressed for IPv4 addresses) do it to the point Americans can't reach content something might get done, not sooner. But if the content is attracting non-trivial traffic from the US there is probably enough money to get it up on an IPv4 host.
It is like the death of analog TV. With the combination of government handouts and force most people converted over a decade. BUt not without several retreats in the "Deadline" and there were still people up in arms when the analog signals disappeared.
Same for analog cell service. Right up until the drop dead date there were still areas out here in flyover country running analog only. And again that was government force at work, because they wanted to resell the spectrum and could force the previous users out.
Where is the drop dead date for IPv4? Who would even be in a position to declare one? Won't happen. Sure with enough slipped mandate dates and enough fraud and waste the government will eventually convert to IPv6. But every last .gov and .mil site intended for a general Internet audience will have an IPv4 address.
And the benefit is? Bouncing all of your traffic around like that is just adding latency. Until there are resources only reachable by IPv6 most people aren't going to get interested enough for ISPs to offer it native.
Ding! We have a winner.
Where is the upside for a customer in caring about ipv6? Will they want to decloak when/if ipv6 becomes popular? OMG, my PC is broadcasting an IP address, of course I want your wonderful product to protect me! All ipv6 would do is get every Windows PC pwn3d twenty four hours after deployment and then everyone retreats behind a NAT and dynamic IP again, this time grafted onto ipv6. Or no ipv6 for end users. What is going to happen is that as addresses get tight the big ISPs will put residential users on 10/8 nets and double NAT just like they have been doing overseas for years and on mobile phones since day one. That will free up enough addresses for servers for the indefinite future. And end the open Internet as we have known it. P2P is over, end users consume content like they are supposed to and content producers produce content like they are supposed to. Or we implement IPv6 at a cost of billions in a down economy and uncork the P2P genie again along with untold new services once any host can reach any host as the Internet originally intended.. Put that way it is a real easy decision for the large players isn't it.
OpenWrt makes you install the ipv6 packages yourself in the interest of keeping the base image small, after all almost nobody needs ipv6 currently. And I suspect Cisco/Linksys is right about the impact on the lower end of their range, even running OpenWrt. I'd have to see a Wrt54GL install the ipv6 packages and actually run under load to believe it. As for their current retail products running on half the ram? Not bloody likely. Me, I'm running a D-Link DIR-825 with 64MB of ram in it, I could probably load the OpenWRT ipv6 packages without a problem.... but AT&T has said word zero about support for IPv6 for residential DSL customers so I'm keeping the 1.3MB of remaining flash open for other stuff.
> A vigilante, regardless of motivations, is a vigilante.
More like common vandals. If you wouldn't cheer em rampaging in a mob with fireaxes and making off with file cabinets you shouldn't be cheering them doing essentially the same smash and grab and sticking an i, cyber- or some such hip prefix that boils down to the same ol 'take something ordinary stick "on the Internet" on and call it new and fresh. (And probably patentable but that is a rant for another thread.)
They aren't vigilantes anymore when they attack someone for the sole reason they were investigating them. That is so clearly across the moral line the only reason more people don't see it is they agree so strongly with Anonymous's stated political goals it blinds them. Gotham PD gets tired of Batman's vigilante tactics and decides to track him down and arrest him. He shoots Gordon in the face when he shows up at Wayne Manor with a warrant. Goodbye Batman, hello Supervillan looking for a new name.
Sure it uses more cardboard than a basic box. So like most 'green' projects it is a fail, but as a useful selling feature it might be a win.
Just as you say, testing. I'd suspect that box is at least as easy to work in as most small form factor cases. Just open the box, populate the slots, connect a power supply and fire it up. For those who still buy in shops it probably wouldn't be too much bother to plug everything together right in the place and smoke test. So you could carry it all home in one box knowing it all actually fits together and runs.
And yea I could see just leaving it in that box for some applications. If the trend caught on it wouldn't really be much more expense to use coated cardboard or even fiberboard. Higher end motherboards already tend to come in fairly heavy duty packaging. Work in a thin foil layer somewhere to solve the RFI issues and a proper case truly would be optional for a lot of folks. Put the ad copy on a thin paper overwrap that rips off cleanly and gets discarded leaving the box printed with pretty but professional case like artwork.
You are missing the point. No mobile browser trying to cope with a huge (by phone standards) screen, regular Firefox. Give folks some time to hack and even if Moto doesn't ship it out of the box you will have Openoffice.org (or whatever fork ends up shipping) and not some pocket mostly view only app that can muddle through a Word doc. Adobe's normal desktop Reader is only a recompile away, enough users holler and it will turn up. And so on. Moto was afraid to just turn loose a normal Linux desktop on the docked head (Display/keyboard/pointer) but unless it flops so fast the hackers don't get a chance to fix that mistake in design, a full Linux desktop will soon be available. And then just pop it out of the dock and take it with you as a phone. And then someone will provide more merge features to let you get at the Linux desktop on the phone display.
> Huh? Are you seriously advocating that law enforcement break into computer systems of suspicious companies?
Yes that is exactly what the anarchists are calling for. Being morons the irony totally escapes them of course. Yea Anonymous! Sticking it to The Man! Hack their systems and reveal all of their dirty secrets.... That they are in the business of helping the government hack into enemies and steal their secrets. Pot, meet Kettle.
> If you live in the USA and you don't like it, the folks in Egypt, Libya, et al are showing us what it takes to effect change in government.
Yup, just remember that more often than not you don't like the results of a revolution. For every US Revolutionary War you get France (Napoleon), Russia (Stalin), Cuba (Castro), Iran (Khomani[sp]), Russia (Putin). Are they sometimes the only option? Yup, but be very certain on that point because yes it can get worse. And usually gets far worse than anyone thought it could.
Egypt has managed to trade a dictator for a Junta. Time will tell whether it works out for em. Libya is almost certain to end up trading dictators; if they get a more sane one it could be an improvement but again we just don't know yet. But the odds of a real Republic, with rule of law, free and open elections and all that stuff happening in any middle eastern country is pretty much zilch. After spending uncounted treasure AND having a major military presence in Iraq they might be close to establishing a government that has a snowball's chance in Hell of lasting a year beyond the removal of the last US military unit. But the smart money is on a dictator or Islamic Theocracy ruling Iraq five years after we leave.
> Anyone want to put up some money on the "Sure, there will be an investigation" side?
Not me. Because I just read the whole article and didn't see the "Wrongdoing" Slashdot is headlining. Democrats will of course take every opportunity to posture in front of the TV cameras so they will yell and scream a bit, safe in the knowledge that they won't be asked "wheres the beef" by the legacy media. So stay away from Breitbart and Fox and it' still just like the 20th Century.
We have a company developing rootkits and other dangerous tech for use by the government agencies that license it from them. Wrongdoing? Where. YEs rootkits are dangerous in the wrong hands, but they were selling to the government. Lots of companies sell lots of dangerous things to the government every day, nothing wrong with that. They proposed a lot of other ideas, some sounded workable, others less so. Some were funded, some weren't. Wrongdoing? Where? Then they took it on themselves to look into the doings of Anonymous, an organization that is unquestionably on the wrong side of the law, and got counterattacked and had lots of private emails leaked. Ok, here is wrongdoing but not on the part of HBGary Federal.
> Yes, Iranians believe the antichrist will one day come and the apocalypse will happen,
The problem is what you call the antichrist they call the Mahdi. And they want the apocalypse for much the same reason they strap bombs onto their children, this life has no value. Even if you forget the religious aspects (foolish, since THEY believe it) actions speak clearly. Mutual Assured Destruction is not likely to be a deterrent against fundamentalist Islam because they don't object to dying. The Soviets did value their lives, being atheists they valued it if anything more than the West, and thus could be deterred by the threat of an exchange of bombs.
> Iranians support this ruling and generally don't think the country's program is for anything but actual legal nuclear power.
And sensible people have some really good reasons to question that. Their current leaders are Twelvers, that is reason one. Second their stated purpose of peaceful electrical power generation is hard to believe in a country with vast proven energy reserves, especially when burning off natural gas as a waste product in far too many cases instead of using it to fire turbines. If you aren't importing energy or otherwise forced into it (such as by enviros) the economic case for atomic power is pretty shaky. With almost total control of media in the country it is indeed possible the general population actually believes the official line as to the intentions for peaceful use. But we would be fools to believe it.
As for Ayatollah Khomeini, he also condemed the Twelvers as dangerous, didn't stop them from getting their hands on the levers of power in Iran after his death now did it?
> some religious kooks who think some invisible mahdi dude will reappear at armageddeon, with freaking NUCLEAR BOMB?!
It is actually worse for the twelvers to have bombs vs some crazed Pentecostals having the bomb because the twelvers believe they can actually cause the chaos that leads to their end times scenario. Most Christians, even the end times types, would reject the notion that they can 'force God's hand', most even reject the notion we can know when the big kaboom is coming exactly. Not saying if they did have the bomb a couple couldn't manage to convince themselves they were God's chosen instrument, hearing the voice of God in their dental fillings or whatever. What I am saying is IAmANutJob is saying, loud, proud and notoriously at the UN on live tv, he can 'hasten the return of the Mahdi' now, before getting his crazy hand on The Button. When a maniac all but comes out and says "I want the world to burn" perhaps we should decide we don't need to wait and see if he means it before inducing lead poisoning.
And before some barely functioning idiot says one of the obvious rejoinders I'll go ahead and answer them.
1. Yes that is a call to assassinate a head of state.
2. Yes that is a call for the US to act like the 'policeman of the world' or something. Not that the current pussy running this joint would act against a foe. He only throws allies under the bus. (Support any foe, Oppose any friend. Sorta the mirror universe version of JFK. Obama should have a beard.)
3. No it won't ''solve' the prolifiation problem long term. But them most solutions don't solve all future problems. I don't claim to have the answer to how we all transcend to Good people who all come together in peace and fellowship, singing Kumbaya into eternity. But I do have a solution to one dangerous asshole who is soon going to have the means to trigger an event that will leave hundreds of millions of dead and dying. At the risk of Godwins law, lots of folks saw the growing problem in the 1930 and ended up inventing 'rational reasons' (rationalizations) for doing nothing. Until Reagan, all right thinking people believed the West was going to lose to the Soviets so why raise a ruckus, besides we had it coming because of [insert rationalization]. How many times does history need to repeat?
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If anyone needed final proof the Iranians are batshit crazy, they built their secret nuke program on off the shelf Windows PCs and apparently didn't even take basic precautions. Guess they thought Allah would protect them in their Holy work or something. Guess the Mossad's God was bigger.
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> If anything, they might throw Gaddafi out by the time UN or anyone else decides to help.
The UN is a sick joke. Libya is on the Human Rights Council and they probably (the competition is fierce) aren't even the worst country on there. Always remember that the US was designed to be a Parliament of Tyrants and it makes a lot more sense. Yes designed. At the time of it's founding most nation-states were unfree hellholes and the people proposing one country one vote knew that.
> The real problem here is cross international boundary signal jamming by Libya,
> that is bordering upon an act of war, really, really dangerous stuff.
Looked at a map lately? Exactly which of Libya's neighbors is in any sort of condition to object to anything right now? So that would leave somebody like us, but if The Won (motto: support any foe, oppose any friend) won't interfere over the mass murder and mayhem I seriously doubt we will go to war over radio spectrum access.
> How about the secret bombing war the US is involved in in Yemen?
It was secret but what makes it illegal? According to Wikileaks they had a deal with the government of Yemen. Where were you when Bush announced the new rules of the game included killing AQ terrorists wherever they might be hiding? That meant everywhere, regardless of whether the local government was ok with it, but in that case they apparently wanted em dead almost as badly as we did, only for different reasons which have now become obvious.
> Please point to where anybody can view these hundreds of thousands of pages.
Do you deny that Wikileaks is in possession of that number of documents? Do you deny that several major media outlets are in possession of almost as many documents as Wikileaks itself? Last time I checked Julian Assange doesn't have a US security clearance and neither does Pinch over at the NYT. It is a safe bet (Assange being a clueless nitwit) that most major foreign intelligence agencies are now in posession of the entire corpus of leaked documents.
> Manning should have gone to his CO and complained about an illegal war going on.
You keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it does. Illegal isn't a synonym for "Things progressives don't like."
> And why would they ask for this facility, unless they think that, at some time, they are going to take your money without your permission?
Because they often have to do exactly that. And yes you agreed when you checked off the EULA. And everyone sane who uses Paypal wants them to do that. What? Am I nuts? Nope.
Paypal is a weird hybrid that combines different aspects of banking. A paypal account combines a checking account, a credit card AND a credit card merchant account into something that is none of them and yet all of them.
If I buy something in a brick & mortar store with a credit card the merchant often doesn't get the money instantly, especially if he is small. He has to leave enough float to cover chargebacks or make some other arrangement with the credit card clearing company to ensure they will be made whole if a flurry of chargebacks hit. Paypal might post the money to your account quicker but does demand you have a linked checking account to charge back to. It's funny these people talking about having a second checking account to stop Paypal from cleaning em out. Idiots. They will charge back if they decide they are going to reverse a payment and you WILL pay. The difference is since you keep the second account empty you will get to pay the NSF charge too. And I suspect Paypal has other safeguards for people doing larger volumes because they would be losing millions to scammers otherwise.
> If Amazon suddenly said 'we are going to stop selling books by negro and jew authors because
> they are written by negros and jews', there very well could be an issue.
Yes they would have legal problems. They shouldn't though. Am I mad? Perhaps, but Freedom that doesn't include the Right to be Wrong isn't Freedom, it is some anointed assholes telling you that they are Right and you are Wrong and if you don't agree with them bad things (government is violence) will happen to you.
Lets run the thought experiment. Amazon does exactly what you suggest in the free world I propose. What happens next? The government wouldn't be able to do a darned thing so what happens? Well the way I see it one of two basic results are possible.
1. To say the reaction from the general public is negative is the understatement of the century. Business dries up, profits tumble and the shareholders install competent management and spend the next couple of years trying to recover.
2. While losing some business they survive as a major force in retailing. We should thank them for their service in exposing the bigger problem in society because obviously there are a lot more bigots out there than anyone would have thought possible.
It is debatable whether the Civil Rights Act was constitutional but even with the benefit of hindsight it was probably the only tool available to solve the real problem that existed at the time. The Democratic Party had an iron hold over a large area of the country and was just as hellbent on their wicked ways as they were in the aftermath of the War of Southern Independence. I'm not some suicide pact libertarian, sometimes it really is required to violate the letter of the law to save it's spirit. But we need to understand that was what was happening so we can realize that if we still need it the problem probably can't be solved by government force. The best way to end discrimination by race/gender/etc really is to stop discriminating/classifying/etc people on the basis of race/gender/etc.
However just because I think it is a bad idea for the government to be imposing it's notions doesn't mean We the People shouldn't use social sanction on idiots who still refuse to get with the program. My way they still have the right to be wrong, they just suffer severe shunning for it. In many ways more severe than in the progressive world because in prog world you can't refuse to to business with someone in most areas of life (banking, housing, etc.) and in mine you could.
> It is apparently anonymous and untraceable..
And will thus be used to launder money and other naughty things until the governments of the world drop on their ass just like happened to PayPal, eGold, etc. The problem is a lot of people might be interested in the ability to conduct commerce without leaving a trail but the early adopters will always be the criminals, thus making it impossible to ever get enough of a critical mass to become too big to shutdown.
So my advice to the next bright but clueless anarchist libertarians who get the idea to try to conquer this business niche is to make finding a solution to that problem their priority.
Ok, the unknown company listed turns out to be an alias (Cequel) for Suddenlink Cable that I had never heard of so they are listed. The wireless provider isn't though and they do offer service here. They rent ya a little WiFi router with the traditional four wired ports on the back and a cellular modem embedded in it.