Can the Atrix 4G Really Become Your Next PC?
GMGruman writes "The Motorola Atrix 4G got a lot of attention at CES because of its ability to dock to a monitor, keyboard, and mouse and run the full desktop Firefox browser in addition to its Android apps. Now that it is shipping, I took the Atrix 4G and its Multimedia Dock and related peripherals out this week for a test-drive to see if delivers on this 'post-PC' promise. The verdict: It's a good first half-step toward mobile devices being your primary computer. The end of the Windows hegemony is in sight."
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http://www.infoworld.com/print/152843
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If it was done with something a bit more open than Android, it might have a shot at replacing netbooks.
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Because, well, that's the real question. Can we do away with PCs and windows? ...
... *sigh* I mean no ... *double sigh*
I think the answer is obvious. YES. It's the year of the linux desktop.
Quartz Extreme and Core Image. Are there any other real reasons to spend all that money on generic hardware?
Then no, it won't replace my PC.
...makes it an non-PC platform. PC means you have root. Plus its size, a bit too larger then the Macbook Air, makes it disqualified to be an ultraportable.
An iPad that I won, when combined with a hard-shell case with built-in keyboard (a ZaggMate, if you're curious) has completely replace my notebook computer. There are plenty of use-cases I can think of where it wouldn't work for everyone, but for my usage scenarios, I don't miss anything.
A friend who works as an on-site computer technician owns both a full-feature notebook (for various definitions of full-feature: it's a MacBook Air) and an iPad. He admitted yesterday that he uses the iPad for 95% of his on-site work. Only when he needs to download a file for a customer does he need to use the notebook. And he's now working out a solution for that by tethering his iPad's 3G to an AirPort Express in device mode, Ethernetted over to the customer machine.
The Atrix -- which costs $199 with a two-year contract from AT&T Wireless in the United States -- ...
Shove it!
Yeah, because the "Ooops we accidentally deleted your emails" from Google and also Hotmail a while back, plus countless other examples from other "cloud" providers, establish beyond a doubt the trustworthiness of the "cloud"... Nah, I will keep my desktop for now, thanks.
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... could have happened with MeeGo, it's a damn desktop computer in your pocket, all you need is a dock, and preferably with standard connection port, and you are there. The dock could even come from a different manufacturer in the ecosystem. But heck, with the recent turn of events, it's not going to happen anyway.
Android is still a "bike" OS compared to full size Truck OSes like MacOS X, X11-based Linux and Windows. I have both android and iOS devices but they always need to dock to PCs to do the heavy work.
When you dock the Atrix, the Firefox browser and other dock-provided services aren't running from the Atrix but instead from a stripped-down Linux PC inside the dock.
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I wonder if this is where Apple is headed with Thunderbolt (née Light Peak) ? A thunderbolt-equipped iPhone could drive a large external display and still have a seperate 10 Gbps multi protocol data channel left over which to drive peripherals, which is plenty fast.
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Well?
$600 for an underpowered everything? For a second there I thought my repair business was done for! ...I really need to adapt to the smartphone repair market...
So I was reading the article and thinking "$400 for the laptop module? $200 + peripherals for the dock? Those are the equivalent of a cheap laptop/PC" Then I got to this tidbit:
What? Why the heck am I buying this thing? All you're selling is an ultra-underpowered, crippled Linux computer that only works when a weird phone is plugged in for no particular reason. Syncing open tabs in FireFox is nice, but that's not enough. A simple app could do that. At home, I can keep a computer no problem. On the go, I still have to keep your laptop dock thing, so no space savings there.
Then there are other downsides. I'm guessing it drains the battery faster to use the laptop dock thing. The pictures of the laptop dock make it look really easy to snap the phone off the back accidentally and break the phone/dock. It's nice to know the reviewer doesn't think the thing feels secure in the dock.
This seems to be where computers will go for most people, but this first implementation clearly sounds more like a beta product than a first generation.
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My N900 is the computer i use more in a way or another most days. But it don't replace my PC, complements it. Sometimes i need far more horsepower, memory, and bigger screen and input devices than my phone, and in that tasks the Atrix would fall short too. I don't know if future devices (using i.e. the Sixth Sense approach?) will improve a lot input and output of information for small devices, that coupled with improvements in battery, cpu and memory could make the PC less needed.
Maybe im using PC too much as synonymous of desktop computer (or big/powerful laptop), but still, odds should be even smaller than netbooks replacing PCs still.
Not until page 3 does it tell us that the desktop version of Firefox isn't actually running from the phone, but from a separate processor *in the dock itself* that's running Linux. This isn't the post-PC world. The dock *is* a low-powered Linux PC with HDMI-out that can pair with the phone for mobile storage. No wonder it costs more than $100.
I had similar thoughts of using a cell phone that way.
With the increase in storage space and shrinking on size of memory and hard drives. You could carry around all your documents and e-mails on your cell phone.
When home you dock your cell phone, the phone is charged and all your data is synced with docking station, which would house a larger hard drive and other devices like CD/DVD burner, printers.
The have the ability to use a monitor, keyboard and mouse when your not out on the road and use full screen app's.
When the cell phone app's let you access the data in a format suited for the cell phone.
Something like the Atrix is close to the perfect machine for me.
But you can't install regular Linux apps. Someday this might work but until such time as the TeX/LaTeX toolchain gets ported, I'll be waiting.
Well, perhaps the other possibility would be for one of the online LaTeX providers to allow my customized stylesheets and all the modules from CTAN that I regularly use.
I can understand keeping the Linux implementation distinct from the phone. Depending on the distribution, it could eat up quite a bit of the phone's available memory to have full fledged LInux on it.
But what I can't really get is having a crippled Linux distribution on the various docks. No installing LaTeX and CTAN for you!
I'm glad that they're using an ARM-based nVidia chip instead of Intel. Slashdotters complain about Google, Microsoft, Apple, AMD (sometimes), IBM (sometimes), Sony, and pretty much every movie/music distributor they can think of. But for some reason, for most here, Intel is above criticism. I don't know if it's because you're afraid Intel will track you through your Pentium 3's serial number, because your brains are like Pentium 4s and your perspectives only shift one bit per cycle, because you can't count all of the mistakes Intel made on your Pentiums, because Sandy Bridge's DRM keeps you from posting anything offensive to Intel, or because your Intel Graphics Media Accelerators don't let you see the forest for the trees, but there are a lot of Intel fanboys and yes-men on Slashdot.
Just no.
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No, it can't. But it can replace your netbook or maybe a low powered notebook.
That's a good thing.
But the smartphone market will give a good kick in the arse to intel/AMD to start releasing much better hardware, for less money, to keep the desktop well ahead of the smartphone game. A brand new 900 dollar phone (600 + dock) is roughly on par with a 700 dollar laptop. That's pretty appealing. Desktops, well, I just priced out a bunch of desktops in the 1600-2000 dollar range, which are easily 10x more powerful, so if you have any use for the power, no, the phone won't do it.
10 years ago we passed the point of the hardware making much difference to a word processor. And we aren't quite at the point where the average desktop user can just dictate to their computer (though we're close, I managed a several setups like that for students with disabilities), and pretty much anything can web browse. Until software that people would use everyday catches up to hardware there's probably a market for a phone that replaces a desktop, and then we'll go back to a desktops. It's hurt intel and AMD I think that while transistor density may still be doubling every 18 ish months performance isn't. Core 2 -> i7->sandy bridge is like 20% performace gains clock for clock, at each step, and the clocks aren't much faster, and there aren't even more cores (because nothing uses 6 cores well yet, let alone 8, 12 or 16). HTML 5, and google's native code over the web etc. *might* change things a bit, giving people instant access to stuff. But all the great technologies we're touting, colour e-book readers, mp3 players, phones that can run programs aren't exactly great performance wise. I could read PDF's just as well 15 years ago as I can today, play music maybe 12 years ago as well as I can today, and any computer can run programs. The phone guys have done a good job using the web to make software accessible, but if the desktop guys could pull of the same there'd be demand there (and as someone else pointed out, my Steam games collection isnt' about to run on a phone).
Being able to download the kernel, driver, and Android sources directly from Motorola, the maker of my Droid phone, is so prohibitive.
Good luck getting your recompiled kernel+driver+Android sources past the well-locked-down bootloader on any Motorola Android device newer than the original Droid.
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The Atrix -- which costs $199 with a two-year contract from AT&T Wireless in the United States -- ...
Anonymous Coward wrote:
Shove it!
Quoted for truth. Adding a monthly cell phone plan can be expensive for people who are currently happy with the combination of a bare-bones land line, a dumbphone with $5/mo service for those few calls that can't wait (such as arranging a ride home), a PDA or netbook that gets Wi-Fi, and home Internet access allowing more than single-digit GB/mo.
but if you're using the dock in a living room with your HDMI-equipped TV, adding USB cables in the mix could be awkward.
That's what USB hubs are for. Buy a USB hub and a 16-foot cable to the TV, and it'll reach your TV tray with no problem.
Further, using a USB keyboard means you'll lack the special Android keys (Menu, Home, Search, and Back) and will need to rely on the mouse to access their on-screen equivalents.
Then that's a defect in the port of Android. It should have used the menu key of a 104-key keyboard (between right Alt and right Control) for menu, Win+F for search, Win+Left or Win+Backspace for back, and Win for home. The author doesn't appear to mention having tried a "multimedia keyboard" either.
Android apps such as Quickoffice don't adjust to take advantage of the bigger screen as you would expect
Part of that is because the Android 2.3 certification requirements document requires a touch screen and a screen of at least 100 DPI. (It used to require things like GPS, a camera, and a cell phone, but those have been dropped sometime between 1.6 and 2.3.) Uncertified hardware has no official access to Android Market.
Nor does the article state whether or not supports loading apps from "Unknown sources", or whether it hides the checkbox like AT&T's Android phones do.
From the second article:
According to Google, it's all about supporting the HTML5 offline features AppCache and Local Storage.
I've looked up the limits on devices. AppCache: 5 MB. Local Storage: 5 MB. Good luck making meaningful offline support for any application dealing with data larger than that.
I thought linux on the desktop was supposed to do that....
The Celio Redfly was doing this years ago with Windows Mobile and now offers a desktop connection that also supports BlackBerry http://www.celiocorp.com/companion
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No, no it can't. People are used to all the different things that PC's can do. Once you turn that into an appliance where it can only do certain things, then it's pointless. Sure people can desire that the PC become an appliance, but once they're told they can't do this and they can't do that, then they don't want it anymore. They don't understand that an appliance by it's nature is limited.
If all people did was check their email and surf the internet, then these appliances would have taken off years ago. And they haven't for this very reason.
A Motorola Atrix 4G? No, probably not. A Sony NGP-class device with quad-core CPU and quad-core GPU? Depending on the connectivity, quite possibly, for the majority of tasks. If it's got hardware accelerated HD video & flash, can attach to fast storage through the dock, I think most people wouldn't know the difference. The average person surfing the web, streaming video, using Facebook and email, and playing the latest pointless Zynga game, definitely not going to be a problem.
Are hardcore gamers going to be able to? Hell no, but that's a specialized subset of computer users.
How about a special 'gaming dock' for your new Sony NGP? Maybe something that works in conjunction with your PlayStation console? That may very well take care of many of the gamers.
Dock at home and at work and sync to your storage remotely. Fuck yeah.
I'm really hoping the Sony NGP will be usable as a cellphone through Google Voice or Skype. I'd ditch my cellphone for that, if the data connection speed and quality and data pricing plans are in line with my budget.
A 10' round tablet seems like an odd demographic...but it looks like it has nice place to hold it with both hands.
If I have a PC or a laptop, I can put any operating system I want on it. Not so with Motorola's products. At least one of Motorola's phones quits working if you try to run anything but Motorola's OS on it.
My PC/laptop is not an appliance. I use it to do work. If I run Ubuntu, I know I can trust what comes from the repository. Android is a security nightmare.
I will not be replacing my PCs/laptops with an Android device any time soon.
At first I thought it said "Altrix", which reminded me of the SGI Altix that I use at work. Now if they had reduced that to something resembling portable (or even something resembling what I would want for my next PC), I'd be impressed!
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It is not a question of mobile becoming more powerful. Is the ability to run firefox browser alone enough to be proclaimed a PC? I am a developer and a researcher. I install (and uninstall) softwares day in and day out. Softwares to write code, softwares that act as servers, softwares that produce something that I want to produce. In theory Android and other mobile can do that, but can they do a to the extent a PC does now? So the question really is can it become mainstream? can it load mainstream applications and behave like desktop? If yes, then yeah it can replace the PC. But again, when there was DEC VAX and VMS machines, PC was the mobile equivalent at that time, I love this concept of Atrix though. In future, I don't probably need to dedicate an entire corner for my PC all I need is a display at home and I can carry my PC and plug it in when I am home.
There are online LaTeX providers? I've got to keep up.
This guy is stretching and distorting the truth to make the review positive.
An example, he only mentions the SUBSIDIZED cost of the phone but uses this price further on to compare it to a netbook BUT does NOT then use a subsidized netbook which do exist. This is like comparing two cars and taking the lease cost of one as being different from the purchase cost of the other. Well duh.
He then claims that 400 dollars for the dock is cheaper then a netbook... except a netbook is both complete and not just a dock and 400 dollars is also the mid range price for a netbook. Was he looking at Vaoi's perhaps? I can find 200-300 dollar netbooks with ease and totally "free" ones if I buy them with a phone subscription.
He then goes on about Firefox Linux not being able to run Java. Is that so? Gosh, what am I running then? What he really means to say is that this dock can't run java apparently for some reason. Firefox and Linux can't this hardware he is trying to like can't.
Really, the most standard, cheapest netbook can do what this thing does and WAY more. Even the multimedia dock is expensive. I still have all the cost and hassle of carrying a netbook besides my phone but without any of the advantages. Like oh say multiple video outs because on the move I can't always dictate what inputs are available for a screen.
And this thing as far as I read the review can't even do video. What a LOT of people seem to want netbooks to do is output video, considering the demand for 720p capability which the first netbooks lacked. What is this multimedia dock going to do for me on the move?
We have heard the "PC is dying" speech before and so far, it hasn't happened. That is because the PC, netbooks and laptops are very very good at serving the edge cases, all those uses to which we put our hardware that some exec at MS/HP/Apple or whatever didn't dream off. Just compare Android's gmail app with regular gmail AND especially a tricked out desktop with gmail tied in. It is clear gmail the app is the light edition. Sometimes that is handy but only if the ease of mobile access makes up for the restrictions.
But if I need a bag to carry a dock or whatever around, why not just carry a cheapo netbook and be done with it.
To me, a phone as a PC will only become intresting if I can skip the dock and hookup the phone directly. THEN I can use it as a tiny laptop.
The end of the Wintel domination? Not yet in sight. With efforts like this, I doubt it ever will. Come on, would it have been that hard to implement some more basic Linux apps?
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Not when it has a $50+ data plan per device.
ATT DataConnect 4G is $50 for 5GB then $10 per GIG.
And they are selling this with a a two-year contract.
I don't see the point of this phone -- why run apps from the phone at all when it's in the dock? Put a powerful processor in the dock and run the apps on the (presumably much faster) dock processor when the phone is docked -- mount the filesystem from the phone so all of your files are available.
Running apps (except firefox) from the phone itself seems like a gimmick that doesn't really accomplish anything useful.
For a long time, I was really excited about this.
However, I can't bring myself to commit to a two-year contract (with a maximum of 4 GB of data costs me an extra $50 per month) when my phone does what I need it to do now.
Besides, in the next 8-10 months, phones with 28nm transistors and quad cores will be around. Not that I'm waiting on the technology, but when I do buy into it, it's going to be for something worth it to me.
What your really asking is if the end of the pc era is in sight. It will not be as dominate, but still exist. Will this toy do it? No flippin way! By Christmas it will be a footnote in history.
Why would I want to wait a year between updates on my PC, too? I'm already trying to get rid of my phone to switch to an HTC.
Ars Technica has their own piece about this phone:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/reviews/2011/03/the-motorola-atrix-4g-jack-of-three-trades-master-of-one.ars
Given multicore ghz processors and large memories why the hell do we have to continue to tolerate bastardized java, incomplete c libraries and vendor specific languages (objective c/.NET...) for mobile platforms? Why exactly? Android interoperability is a fricking sorry fragmented mess which drifts further from linus's tree with each passing day... while Windows 7 and iphone are restrictive walled empires.
I question the very premise of why there needs to be any distinction between PCs and mobile devices at the system level. You should be able to scale UIs and do reasonable power management without having to rewrite everything... There are enough transisters in todays mobile devices to make it work.
The end of the Windows hegemony is in sight.
Where?
Over there!
Still can't see it.
It's right beside the year of the linux desktop!
Ok.
On second thought, let's not go to Camelot. It is a silly place.
I want this, but instead of the dock use standards. A tablet with HDMI out and some USB ports would be far better.
My next PC? Somehow I don't see a toy like that replacing a triple-screen 3D workstation.
Storage? just use the cloud. How much space do you need in a consumer device now that media is generally streamed?
At typical U.S. prices for 3G data at single-digit GB per month? Lots.
the future probably isn't so much with a dock that allows for bigger and better I/O as it is a way to connect the smartphone to the PC so the actual run state of a program can be shifted from one device to another similar to dragging a window between screens of a multi monitor setup.
Which, if you read the featured article, is very much how Firefox on this device works.
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I was thinking of getting one ... also pricey too. I do not want the laptop accessory that is $600 for it. A little too silly and smells desperately like an Ipad/netbook wannabe. I can get a non DRM Asus EEE netbook for half the price with Ubuntu.
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Too bad android didn't use a more pure version of java if its going to be replacing desktops.
Now I'll have to make a java and an android version of programs i want to be usable on all desktops.
Seriously, I've been posting for ages that I want almost this exact device, but it should run Windows Phone 7 on top of Windows 7 (Windows Phone 7 is really mostly a .NET based window manager with apps) and that it should :
- Have wireless charging so I can leave it in my pocket and have a charger in my chair
- Have wireless HDMI (whatever flavor is the flavor of the week)
- Have wireless USB (bluetooth is too damn complex and even still doesn't work worth a shit) for keyboard, mouse, etc
- Should run on a single core in power saving mode when operating as a phone
- Should run on multiple cores when either charging or there is an explicit need for it
Android is interesting, but there are some real problems with it :
- You need a PC to program for it. You can't program directly on it
- There are no IDEs for Android and therefore even with an Android tablet or a PC running Android, complex projects can't be managed
- The window manager on Android (including netbook versions) is not suited for coding, debugging and emulating. You'd need something more conventional
- Android doesn't have any natively hosted compilers that I know of.
- Android lacks desktop style applications. Even with Google working like mad to solve this, it'll be years before their army of coders will make apps that are mature
- Making Android into a desktop operating system will fragment Android so much that developers will be confused as to which Android platform they should code for
- Cloud computing requires an Internet connection so, cloud apps are pretty useless for people who do things like travel through tunnels occasionally or visit cabins, travel to other countries and disable 3G to avoid roaming charges, etc..
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I guess since Apple is bigger than HP+ Microsoft and 9 out of 10 $999+ PC's are Macs and iPad has created a whole new PC category that doesn't even have a Windows machine in it, I thought the Windows hegemony was already over. But now that Motorola created a 7th way to run Firefox without Windows (wow!) then I guess that was the final nail in the coffin.
I fail to see the reason behind having your phone as the be-all, end-all of computing. Let's say it was possible, let's say a phone could run everything you want, play all your media, etc, etc. No compromises. I STILL think we'd have other systems. Why? Convenience if nothing else.
For example: Suppose your phone is your media player. Easy enough, HDMI out and a powerful enough processor and there you go. Wonderful! Watch all your media anywhere... Except now when your kids want to watch a movie, you have to hook your phone to the TV. Phone call comes in while it is happening? That's a problem.
Or, you could just have a Blu-ray player or device like it that'll play all your disc based media, and stream from a file serer or Netflix or Vudu, or whatever. Do you have to own another device? Sure but it is worth it for the convenience.
Same shit for a desktop computer. So you are going to want a keyboard, mouse, monitor, maybe speakers, and so on all set up anyhow, that's kinda the point. Much easier to work on. So again what is easier: Having a system that's there, hooked up, and ready to go that anyone can use, or having to hook your phone in, only to have to remove it to do other things (like, say, make a phone call)? Also please remember that supposing we get to the point where a phone is really as capable as a desktop/laptop (which we are nowhere NEAR now) that will by nature mean that they will be very cheap as well. If you can put the hardware in a $200 phone, you can probably but it in a $150 or less computer since you can dispense with the radio, antenna, and so on.
Heck, just look at a kitchen. In my kitchen I have an oven/stove, a microwave, a toaster, a crock pot, and a bread maker. All those devices perform the same basic function: They heat up food. Of those only the oven is truly necessary. It is the "Be-all, end-all." Anything I can make in one of the other devices, I can make in the oven. So why have them? Convenience. Hell of a lot easier to slow cook a soup in the crock pot than the oven (cheaper too because it uses less energy). The bread maker you just dump ingredients in and go, with the oven you make it by hand.
Same shit with computers. While I'm sure phones will provide access to more data on the go, they aren't going to replace other devices just for convenience reasons. I don't want my phone to replace my Blu-ray player, I want to be able to stream Netflix (LG BD570, it'll do videos from various web services or from your desktop/server), have my phone ring and pick it up and take a call, and perhaps even leave the room and let someone else resume watching Netflix.
Of course this all ignores that right now, smartphones are nowhere near computers. Even a basic Atom netbook kills a smartphone in terms of what it can handle, never mind a desktop. Now do you need the power? Maybe not but maybe you do, there are plenty of things to use it on. It isn't a big deal since you can get one fairly cheaply.
Personally I think if money is a real issue to you, you'd get a cheap cellphone (you can get them for no cost with a contract) and a cheap desktop. That would cost less, particularly in the long run. If money is not such an issue, and you can afford an expensive smart phone, you can probably also afford to have another computer or two and will do so for the convenience.
HDMI output, Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Dolby 5.1 surround sound. Plus the standard apps; word processor, calendar etc etc etc..
And this is today.
The pocket is the new desktop, and guess what MS effectively bought (for $0), the largest mobile phone producer in the world.
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For some reason there's a ton of people who are just obsessed with the idea of a smartphone as the One Computer to Rule Them All(tm). They want a single device that replaces their desktop, laptop, DVD player, MP3 player, and so on and think a smartphone will be it. They've never stopped to consider the downsides of this even if such a thing did work perfectly (which as you noted it doesn't). There are plenty of reasons to want more than one device, ones that are better at some things than others.
However because they get obsessed with the idea they'll try and shoehorn things in to that model to claim it is the future.
At the moment I have a desktop for work and games, and a netbook for mobility and bringing along when travelling. I guess a phone like that could easily replace the netbook, but not the desktop.
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for keyboard & mouse is there already. It has TV out, but I'd expect the next (and last meego phone from Nokia which is apparently half finished) revision will have HDMI so a reasonable video resolution.
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No, it can't. But it can replace your netbook or maybe a low powered notebook.
And some companies like "Always Innovating" are already planning this : Smart Book - MID docking into a tablet docking into a netbook.
As other company like in todays article start doing it, it proves that the concept is gaining mindshare.
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We're talking a laptop replacement here. Once you start adding apps (OpenOffice, a real web browser, the LaTeX toolchain, etc.), there isn't a whole lot left over for your multimedia library, let alone your favorite Linux distribution.
http://www.engadget.com/motorola/atrix-4g-review/
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DNLA for screen output to your HD TV.
Auto detection of those = walk into your home, phone connects to keyboard mouse and TV, hey presto!
If you're looking for some kind of hybrid that can both fit in your pocket and be used with a real keyboard and screen and run desktop programs, you might be interested in the SmartBook. Unfortunately it doesn't have a phone feature, but it looks like a really great product...
Too bad Microsoft never really followed up with their Origami concept they were hyping a few years ago. Looks like the Motorola beat them to it with the Atrix.
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I've been waiting 10 years for this product. The computer is your phone, and you can dock it to a real screen and keyboard for a productive environment. However, Im not sure the atrix is the product for me or if I have to wait for a more capable successor (more likely a mature OS)