In WWI the US lost 125k people out of a population of 75M. In the Civil War we lost over 600k out of a population of 30M. Ergo the price of labor should have increased even more after the Civil War, yet that was the beginning of the Gilded Age.
Some people might be smarter than others??? That completely conflicts with the Democratic party ideal of equality for everyone.
Some of the riffraff's kids might be smarter than the 1%'ers kids? That completely conflicts with the Republican party ideal of a self-reinforcing class system.
So if we can't afford it for every student, let's give it to every N'th student. The lucky students can be picked via a lottery. That's just as reasonable of a way of providing this to only a portion of the students as choosing only rich kids. Still can't afford it? Just tax the parents of the rich kids. Be careful though - this might create a meritocracy instead of a class system. Wealthy parents are often concerned that their little darlings wouldn't excel if they actually had to compete on an equal basis with the riffraff.
What is happening is that labor is just not as valuable as it used to be in the developed world, that is, your little corner of reality.
So in the Gilded age labor was even less valuable than today, but then in the first half of the 20th century it became more valuable? Please explain why.
So lets keep everything equally dumb, right? Typical leftist mentality... Lets share the misery!
Typical rightist mentality - never publicly fund a means of people bettering themselves. Otherwise we might have a true meritocracy, rather than a self-reinforcing class system. Bonus points if you can repeal the part of the Constitution prohibiting the government from granting titles of nobility.
Great, so someone laments the fact that some people may end up more educated than others.
No, what they object to is that how well educated you are may depend mostly on how much money your parents' have. It's already like that to a large extent. Welcome back to the old, and reviled, British class system. I thought we were Americans.
Most people believe in a meritocracy to a large extent, but the merit should be based on your abilities, not your parents' income.
So what I imagine is parents getting their kids essentially a $30,000 educational checkup where they extract enormous amounts of data about the kinds of learners their children are, the kinds of education deficits they have.'"
What the hell costs $30k? And if it can be done cost effectively, why not do it in public schools?
It wouldn't do any good unless the staffers and lobbyists join them. Get rid of one corrupt congresscritter (but I repeat myself) and another one will just sprout up. You always have to get to the roots.
I kept my hand down and read your link. While the guy was obviously accomplished in some respects, I don't see why the average nerd should recognize his name.
Although his writing was pretty mechanical, his stories were real page turners.
That's certainly true of the earlier books that he actually wrote. I think I read and enjoyed all of them. One thing I've always disliked is when authors needlessly inject their own politics, left or right, into fiction, but Clancy was no worse with that than many authors.
It's another story when you start talking about the later books (after 2003) that said "by Tom Clancy" in gigantic type, and "with so-and-so" in little type. In other words, books not really written by Clancy. Why a successful author would do that is beyond me. Even if he didn't feel like ever writing another book, he didn't need to, as I'm sure he'd already made a fortune from his books and the movie rights.
Perhaps you're taking the GP too literally. Is it necessary to be literal about a statement about how literal some group is? Your turn - I want to get at least a 3rd "literal" into that statement.
Basically I agree with you, but "female" is better here. Many Slashdotters are familiar with the biological concept of "female", but are unfamiliar with the concept of "women".
Cats may be good at using computers, but unlike us bipedal lemmings, they're way too independent minded to listen to management. May I suggest monkeys instead: http://search.dilbert.com/comic/Zimbu
I do have the impression at this point that ACA does not do enough to decouple health care financing from employment
Hear, hear! Health care should be completely decoupled from employment. That would be pro-business, and I'm always amazed it hasn't been promoted as such. It works for Canada and many other countries.
Maybe. There have been may clever reactor designs, such as pebble bed and energy amplifier, that sounded great but didn't work out that well. Don't misunderstand me, of the proposed newer reactor designs LFTR sounds like one of the best. I'm also aware that an LFR (not thorium, but very similar) was built in the 60's and worked well. It was killed by Nixon. Damn shame we've lost 40 years when we could have tried to develop it. I'm all for full-bore research on LFTR and other promising reactor designs, but you can't call LFTR the "nuclear reactor of the future" until a lot more work is done.
Congratulations on a rebuttal that didn't address my point at all - a performance worthy of a politician.
In WWI the US lost 125k people out of a population of 75M. In the Civil War we lost over 600k out of a population of 30M. Ergo the price of labor should have increased even more after the Civil War, yet that was the beginning of the Gilded Age.
Most people believe all kinds of lies.
Most people believe in a meritocracy as an ideal to be striven for.
We have never been a meritocracy. We have always had a rather class based system.
Don't be Manichean. The degree of one vs. the other has changed over the years, and we're now headed in the wrong direction.
Some people might be smarter than others??? That completely conflicts with the Democratic party ideal of equality for everyone.
Some of the riffraff's kids might be smarter than the 1%'ers kids? That completely conflicts with the Republican party ideal of a self-reinforcing class system.
So if we can't afford it for every student, let's give it to every N'th student. The lucky students can be picked via a lottery. That's just as reasonable of a way of providing this to only a portion of the students as choosing only rich kids. Still can't afford it? Just tax the parents of the rich kids. Be careful though - this might create a meritocracy instead of a class system. Wealthy parents are often concerned that their little darlings wouldn't excel if they actually had to compete on an equal basis with the riffraff.
Unfortunately classical geometry will only get you so far. Also, it's already taught as a standard subject.
Just like private universities can offer a lower priced education than public universities.
What is happening is that labor is just not as valuable as it used to be in the developed world, that is, your little corner of reality.
So in the Gilded age labor was even less valuable than today, but then in the first half of the 20th century it became more valuable? Please explain why.
So lets keep everything equally dumb, right? Typical leftist mentality... Lets share the misery!
Typical rightist mentality - never publicly fund a means of people bettering themselves. Otherwise we might have a true meritocracy, rather than a self-reinforcing class system. Bonus points if you can repeal the part of the Constitution prohibiting the government from granting titles of nobility.
Great, so someone laments the fact that some people may end up more educated than others.
No, what they object to is that how well educated you are may depend mostly on how much money your parents' have. It's already like that to a large extent. Welcome back to the old, and reviled, British class system. I thought we were Americans.
Most people believe in a meritocracy to a large extent, but the merit should be based on your abilities, not your parents' income.
It's not revolution-worthy yet, but it couldn't hurt to start planning a guillotine.
Way too French for America (with the possible exception of New Orleans). American style would be a firing squad.
So what I imagine is parents getting their kids essentially a $30,000 educational checkup where they extract enormous amounts of data about the kinds of learners their children are, the kinds of education deficits they have.'"
What the hell costs $30k? And if it can be done cost effectively, why not do it in public schools?
Often overlooked is that Khan, like Napoleon, was a failure. For all their supposed superiority, they were defeated in the end.
It wouldn't do any good unless the staffers and lobbyists join them. Get rid of one corrupt congresscritter (but I repeat myself) and another one will just sprout up. You always have to get to the roots.
Why? Don't you have a sense of humor?
You think congress would furlough itself, or at least go without pay until other federal employees start getting paid again? Get real.
I kept my hand down and read your link. While the guy was obviously accomplished in some respects, I don't see why the average nerd should recognize his name.
Although his writing was pretty mechanical, his stories were real page turners.
That's certainly true of the earlier books that he actually wrote. I think I read and enjoyed all of them. One thing I've always disliked is when authors needlessly inject their own politics, left or right, into fiction, but Clancy was no worse with that than many authors.
It's another story when you start talking about the later books (after 2003) that said "by Tom Clancy" in gigantic type, and "with so-and-so" in little type. In other words, books not really written by Clancy. Why a successful author would do that is beyond me. Even if he didn't feel like ever writing another book, he didn't need to, as I'm sure he'd already made a fortune from his books and the movie rights.
Perhaps you're taking the GP too literally. Is it necessary to be literal about a statement about how literal some group is? Your turn - I want to get at least a 3rd "literal" into that statement.
Another thing about programmers is that many of them are oblivious to "humor".
Basically I agree with you, but "female" is better here. Many Slashdotters are familiar with the biological concept of "female", but are unfamiliar with the concept of "women".
Cats may be good at using computers, but unlike us bipedal lemmings, they're way too independent minded to listen to management. May I suggest monkeys instead: http://search.dilbert.com/comic/Zimbu
I do have the impression at this point that ACA does not do enough to decouple health care financing from employment
Hear, hear! Health care should be completely decoupled from employment. That would be pro-business, and I'm always amazed it hasn't been promoted as such. It works for Canada and many other countries.
No. For those Slashdotters unfamiliar with "forests", an unoccupied one is, for these purposes, equivalent to /dev/null/.
LFTR is the nuclear reactor of the future.
Maybe. There have been may clever reactor designs, such as pebble bed and energy amplifier, that sounded great but didn't work out that well. Don't misunderstand me, of the proposed newer reactor designs LFTR sounds like one of the best. I'm also aware that an LFR (not thorium, but very similar) was built in the 60's and worked well. It was killed by Nixon. Damn shame we've lost 40 years when we could have tried to develop it. I'm all for full-bore research on LFTR and other promising reactor designs, but you can't call LFTR the "nuclear reactor of the future" until a lot more work is done.