I do find it interesting that everytime I've seen Irvings speak he hasn't denied that the holocaust existed. The basic gist I got from his speeches was, that after the fact it's been publised as a Jewish persecusion. In fact they made up around 50% of the victims. Gypses and Homosexuals were also killed, in concentration camps, making up a massive portion of those killed. Interestingly though, the reporters had the same questions as you, asking him why he said the holocaust didn't exist, he said he didn't deny it existed. Funny, the reporters just continued on with the same questions ignoring the fact that he accepted that the holocaust existed.
I think the Irving is right in the respect that it wasn't just a case of anti-semitism, those that were targeted came from a larger spectrum than that, and that makes it all that much more horrible.
I find it interesting that a person can be placed in jail for questioning history. I think history like other scientific endevours should be questioned and evidence should be asked of it. Somebody should be allowed to have an opinion and attempt to back it up with evidence. If people believe it, well... who knows. Hell some people believe in Intelligent Design.;-)
The Australian Taxation Office is the so entrenched with microsoft products, I doubt that will ever look at moving away from these solutions.
Perhaps the greatest entrenchment is something called the ATO innovation centre. This is where they collaborate at a high level with microsoft, on new products and solutions to what they're working on.
I'm sure I would have heard about news as big as the ATO closing down their innovation centre so one can assume, they aren't even close to getting rid of ms, but are still deep in bed taking a pounding in the wallet.
Other reasons I'm doubtful of the move are custom pieces of software that have been made for the ATO would have to be ported. I know for a fact that the company I work has over the years written a large number of pieces of software for the ATO using, vb and.net. Now simply the cost of moving over these third party software pieces would make any more away from microsoft extremely difficult.
There are these wonderous things called books. Before your time perhaps but they represented entertainment and great value for money. A 1000 page book costs in australia around $20, while a dvd $20 (for a cheap or on special one), $30 is around the norm, $40 for those made by George Lucus. Now a dvd has around 2-3 hours with an 8 hour maximum basically on entertainment. A 1000 page novel usually takes me around 8 hours to read. Considering that my reading speed is way above normal. I would then propose that novels provide a much greater value for money entertainment than dvds do.
I purchased a sony ericsson T610 not too long ago. I admit that I bought a sony ericsson bluetooth headset because I wasn't sure what else would work with it. But the talk clarity is amazing. Not quite as good as normal mobile reception, but worth it when you can talk away from your phone and keep talking. Coolness factor that nothing else. It talks to my pc through a dlink usb dongle without a single problem. Now the ability to connect to your pc without wires is something that is unbelievably convenient. I can walk into a room after someone has sent me a contact and just click on sync and boom, I have the address on my pc too. No fiddling with wires etc. I'm including a list of cool things I've got going between my mobile phone and computer with bluetooth for those people wondering what they can do with it. I'll give the url links after the comments.
Just the amount of things things that you can do with your mobile phone via bluetooth are amazing. There's a nice program called multisync that syncs my addressbook, calendar and tasks with evolution. (yes I only started using evolution after I got the phone). OpenObex allows me send and recieve files to and from my telephone. I have a nice gnome gui over this that allows me to drag and drop. obexftp semi works via bluetooth. But probably more of a case of semi works with my mobile phone.:) And finally there are programs that bring up and sms alert on my screen and then allow me to respond on my pc. i.e. I write the sms on my pc and click send. It sends the sms to my telephone, which then sends it. All of this via bluetooth. Other people have setup things like remote controls for xmms and mplayer using their mobiles.
Syncronisation with evolution, pdas, other computers, web sites and mobile phone. http://multisync.sourceforge.net/ Back end library used for file transferring files. http://openobex.sourceforge.net/ Device detection etc, all through a nice gnome interface. Also has an sms send reciever and notification tool(I've only semi got this one working). http://usefulinc.com/software/gnome-blu etooth/ A GSM library. xgsm uses this. http://www.pxh.de/fs/gsmlib/ This site is T610 specific run by a bloke called Martin Enlund. But it has some links to things like an xmms remote control using bluetooth etc. http://martin.enlund.org/phone/
At the moment I don't pirate anything as far as CD or software goes. But I'm waiting to see if a CDR tariff gets imposed in Australia, since "everybody" pirates music there should be one imposed.
When they do so, I'm going to pirate every single one of those cd's from those record companies that get revenue from blank CDs. After all I think it's only fair that if you live in a country that has these "taxes" on blank CDs that you get the music that you rightfully own since you're actually paying for it.
The actual purpose of a patent is to cause people to share innovation. By sharing the innovation (the knowledge of how a new technique is used), it allows the creator a monopoly for a short period of time for sharing this knowledge.
The problem being of course that with software patents are extroudinarily broad and often appear to be patent's on prior art. For example the breadth of some of these software patents appears to be the equivalent of me patenting a mobile communication device, that allows verbal communication via the use of microwaves. Suddenly I've just patented the mobile phone. This creates a problem since it's not sharing an innovation, or the information of how to make it. So it means that people are getting a monopoly without the exchange of information. But the information sharing that comes with patent's on things such as hardware does allow people new ideas and share information that would otherwise be held under lock and key. And this in my mind is an extroudinarily good thing.
I was a little bit curious as to how many people have actually written an installer. It appears to me that most people believe that if you magically go to control panel and add/remove that the program will be removed.
You can easily write an installer that will leave files behind. The best places are usually places like winnt/system32. After all that's were all the upgraded system dll's are placed, and since there's so many files there people don't seem to look that hard. Personally I'd be looking through other things most notably though would be windows nt services to see if they plugged in anything spicy there.
Just remember just because you "uninstall" something doesn't mean it still isn't there.
You have to be able to walk before you can run. The information that you should learn at University should be a firm grounding in the theory and practices that you'll use as basis for your choosen field.
As far as new tecnologies and breakthroughs go you can never understand these things without a firm understanding of the basics behind it.
Donald Knuth's books the Art of Computer Programming, these books were written many years ago, yet the information contained within is extremely valid today. In fact they are considered to be books that most computer programmers that I know say "I have to get a copy of that"(if they don't already).
I personally believe that the most inportant thing a university degree shows is that you can learn and think. It's in fact a person's a ability to learn new things, solve problems, it's these things that are important. And a University degree should show that you have the ability to do this.
That was that/etc/X11/Xserver still had my X server pointing to/usr/bin/X11/XF86_SVGA instead of/usr/bin/X11/XFree86 but then of course I didn't remove xserver-svga.
ùíù Slade [user@adsl-61-0-42.dab.bellsouth.net] has joined #console ùíù mode/#console [+o Slade] by Tilde <mitch> I wouldn't suppose anyone has seen JC's.plan eh? <Morg\Away> maybe you should... <Morg\Away> http://bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/finger.pl?id=1&time=2 0000223184151 <barbarian> http://www.shugashack.com/finger/?fid=johnc@idsoft ware.com <Slade> i got the carmack thing handled <Morg\Away> nice <Slade> apparently carmack does not speak on the behalf of id software <devkev> slade will the dl agreement stay? <Slade> however slader is a very serious offense <Morg\Away> ok back to away... be back in 10 <barbarian> I'd be careful if I were you <barbarian> He owns a lot of id <barbarian> If I were you, I would not fight JC + the FSF <mitch> I wouldn't fuck with JC amn <mitch> he correct way to stop cheating is to fix the fucking <mitch> protocol. !OpServ:*! hunnr is now an oper. <Slade> nah JC's cool <mitch> release a binary only proxy server, <Slade> and yes we are fixing the protocol <barbarian> ^B^BSlade: I don't know why you didn't just choose to write a client/server side proxy solution, given that there are a few codebases for proxies under various license available <barbarian> (that is, QW proxies) <Slade> barbarian: cause it doesnt work:) i have 8 of them.. want a few? <barbarian> ^B^BSlade: WHY doesn't it work? I have the bottim.tar.gz source (qprox.cc -- which I modified for multiple users in a couple hours) and the cheapo source <devkev> slade will the dl agreement stay? <barbarian> ^B^BSlade: I used to run http://anticheat.8m.com/, and I was a couple weeks from releasing a server side cheat detection proxy when the q1 source was released <Slade> barbarian: cause they are easy to trick. i've been able to get around them with some simple editing of port numbers <barbarian> ^B^BSlade: there are a number of issues, but if you use a comprehensive client and server side proxy solution it is possible to be very secure <Slade> barbarian: got better issues <Slade> barbarian: btw. you have to remember that carmack is already posting against us before we even made a release <karith> barbarian: the only thing that would really work while keeping everything in the open is a netrek type solution using encryption <Slade> barbarian: actually i've got 2 companies willing to devote the time for us:) <barbarian> ^B^Bkarith: the qwforever project is taking that approach <karith> otherwise you have to do things like use closed source proxies and that's hard <six|inandout> slade owns <karith> barbarian: you're not the first person to say that <devkev> Slade^B:^B are you going to remove the downloading agreement? <karith> which makes me wonder why QL doesn't just investigate that <Slade> devkev: are you like that stupid? I've ignored you 3 times, what makes you think i wouldnt ignore you this time <barbarian> ^B^BSlade: you're going to fight Carmack + id + the FSF + the open source community (i.e./.) ? <devkev> Slade^B:^B i want an answer... yes or no. <mitch> that means Slade doesn't know. <Slade> devkev: tough:) <devkev> Slade^B:^B fine <mitch> Slade: YOU DON"T want to fuck with JC and lawyers over this shit man <Slade> devkev: you'll find out when everyone else does <Leviathon> rofl <Majestic> lol <Slade> as of right now, JC is nothing but a poorly paid PR agent of quakelives <devkev> Slade^B:^B fine. you know how i feel about the current agreement (if you've read your email) <Majestic> lol ùíù Majestic was kicked off #console by Tilde (Keep repeating and I'm going to bust a move on your ass.) ùíù Majestic [Majestic@HSE-Toronto-ppp88032.sympatico.ca] has joined #console ùíù mode/#console [+o Majestic] by ChanServ <Majestic> hmm <mitch> Slade: Are you trying to say John Carmack couldn't beat you down with this? <mitch> If he wanted to legally, he would easily win <r3m-Dog_away> how bout them leafs eh?! <Slade> mitch: legally? we havent done anything yet;) <devkev> Slade^B:^B except the dl agreement <Slade> mitch: second, he sues me, I show the judge a nice green piece of cardboard paper, judge says case dismissed and then the judge asks if i want to sue JC for harrassment <Slade> devkev: nothing illegal about the agreement:) <devkev> Slade^B:^B read my email <barbarian> 6. Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from the original licensor to copy, distribute or modify the Program subject to these terms and conditions. You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein. You are not responsible for enforcing compliance by third parties to this License. <devkev> barbarian^B:^B exactly <DarkOne> Whine whine whine <barbarian> specifically: "You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein." <barbarian> from http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html\ ùíù You have new email. <devkev> ? <barbarian> if you guys are lucky enough, this may make slashdot.org.. if that happens, I hope your forum can take all the posts from the/.'ers <Gr2[MC]> barb <devkev> the agreement says you can't get the source otherwise <devkev> thats a restriction <six|inandout> barbarian: it's already made bluesnews <Gr2[MC]> we have already made planetquake, voodooextreme, bluesnews <Gr2[MC]> and every other gaming page in existence <Gr2[MC]> we are getting like 5 hits per seconds <Gr2[MC]> err <Gr2[MC]> second <Morg\Away> so everything is ok? quakelives continues to live (pun intended:) <barbarian> ^B^Bsix|inandout: the wrath of/. is not something you want to get in front of -- bluesnews is small potatoes --/. is read by a few hundred thousand GPL zealots each day <barbarian> ^B^BGr2[MC] so put up banner ads... <Gr2[MC]> no doubt <Gr2[MC]> exactly <DarkOne> People suck <six|inandout> ah <six|inandout> heh <Gr2[MC]> heh <Morg\Away> only linux nuts read slashdot <Gr2[MC]> i need to figure out file locking for perl ùíù []AirWorkin is now known as []AirEattin <Gr2[MC]> all these hits fucked our stats page up hardcore <Gr2[MC]> heh <DarkOne> lol' <devkev> Morg\Away^B:^B actaully the stats show that most ppl reading/. are in windows <karith> Morg\Away: actually, according to a poll 30% of slashdot's readership is win32 people ùíù Morg\Away is now known as Morgahastu <karith> 30%, not most ð karith/#console bops devkev <devkev> i meant more than any other os <devkev> isn't it? <DarkOne> I'm an anti-social bastard, will you be my friend? <Gr2[MC]> i haven't looked at our forum yet <Gr2[MC]> i'm afraid to <Gr2[MC]> heh <DarkOne> !!! <DarkOne> Really?! <barbarian> ^B^Bdevkev: where do I get those/. stats <mitch> this is already on planetquake, Voodooextreme, and about to be on slashdot
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I do find it interesting that everytime I've seen Irvings speak he hasn't denied that the holocaust existed. The basic gist I got from his speeches was, that after the fact it's been publised as a Jewish persecusion. In fact they made up around 50% of the victims. Gypses and Homosexuals were also killed, in concentration camps, making up a massive portion of those killed. Interestingly though, the reporters had the same questions as you, asking him why he said the holocaust didn't exist, he said he didn't deny it existed. Funny, the reporters just continued on with the same questions ignoring the fact that he accepted that the holocaust existed.
;-)
I think the Irving is right in the respect that it wasn't just a case of anti-semitism, those that were targeted came from a larger spectrum than that, and that makes it all that much more horrible.
I find it interesting that a person can be placed in jail for questioning history. I think history like other scientific endevours should be questioned and evidence should be asked of it. Somebody should be allowed to have an opinion and attempt to back it up with evidence. If people believe it, well... who knows. Hell some people believe in Intelligent Design.
Communists, they're obviously socialist communists. :-)
The Australian Taxation Office is the so entrenched with microsoft products, I doubt that will ever look at moving away from these solutions.
.net. Now simply the cost of moving over these third party software pieces would make any more away from microsoft extremely difficult.
Perhaps the greatest entrenchment is something called the ATO innovation centre. This is where they collaborate at a high level with microsoft, on new products and solutions to what they're working on.
I'm sure I would have heard about news as big as the ATO closing down their innovation centre so one can assume, they aren't even close to getting rid of ms, but are still deep in bed taking a pounding in the wallet.
Other reasons I'm doubtful of the move are custom pieces of software that have been made for the ATO would have to be ported.
I know for a fact that the company I work has over the years written a large number of pieces of software for the ATO using, vb and
There are these wonderous things called books. Before your time perhaps but they represented entertainment and great value for money.
A 1000 page book costs in australia around $20, while a dvd $20 (for a cheap or on special one), $30 is around the norm, $40 for those made by George Lucus.
Now a dvd has around 2-3 hours with an 8 hour maximum basically on entertainment. A 1000 page novel usually takes me around 8 hours to read. Considering that my reading speed is way above normal. I would then propose that novels provide a much greater value for money entertainment than dvds do.
I purchased a sony ericsson T610 not too long ago.
:)
u etooth/
I admit that I bought a sony ericsson bluetooth headset because I wasn't sure what else would work with it. But the talk clarity is amazing. Not quite as good as normal mobile reception, but worth it when you can talk away from your phone and keep talking. Coolness factor that nothing else.
It talks to my pc through a dlink usb dongle without a single problem. Now the ability to connect to your pc without wires is something that is unbelievably convenient. I can walk into a room after someone has sent me a contact and just click on sync and boom, I have the address on my pc too. No fiddling with wires etc.
I'm including a list of cool things I've got going between my mobile phone and computer with bluetooth for those people wondering what they can do with it. I'll give the url links after the comments.
Just the amount of things things that you can do with your mobile phone via bluetooth are amazing. There's a nice program called multisync that syncs my addressbook, calendar and tasks with evolution. (yes I only started using evolution after I got the phone).
OpenObex allows me send and recieve files to and from my telephone.
I have a nice gnome gui over this that allows me to drag and drop.
obexftp semi works via bluetooth. But probably more of a case of semi works with my mobile phone.
And finally there are programs that bring up and sms alert on my screen and then allow me to respond on my pc. i.e. I write the sms on my pc and click send. It sends the sms to my telephone, which then sends it.
All of this via bluetooth. Other people have setup things like remote controls for xmms and mplayer using their mobiles.
Syncronisation with evolution, pdas, other computers, web sites and mobile phone.
http://multisync.sourceforge.net/
Back end library used for file transferring files.
http://openobex.sourceforge.net/
Device detection etc, all through a nice gnome interface. Also has an sms send reciever and notification tool(I've only semi got this one working).
http://usefulinc.com/software/gnome-bl
A GSM library. xgsm uses this.
http://www.pxh.de/fs/gsmlib/
This site is T610 specific run by a bloke called Martin Enlund. But it has some links to things like an xmms remote control using bluetooth etc.
http://martin.enlund.org/phone/
At the moment I don't pirate anything as far as CD or software goes. But I'm waiting to see if a CDR tariff gets imposed in Australia, since "everybody" pirates music there should be one imposed.
When they do so, I'm going to pirate every single one of those cd's from those record companies that get revenue from blank CDs. After all I think it's only fair that if you live in a country that has these "taxes" on blank CDs that you get the music that you rightfully own since you're actually paying for it.
The actual purpose of a patent is to cause people to share innovation. By sharing the innovation (the knowledge of how a new technique is used), it allows the creator a monopoly for a short period of time for sharing this knowledge.
The problem being of course that with software patents are extroudinarily broad and often appear to be patent's on prior art. For example the breadth of some of these software patents appears to be the equivalent of me patenting a mobile communication device, that allows verbal communication via the use of microwaves. Suddenly I've just patented the mobile phone.
This creates a problem since it's not sharing an innovation, or the information of how to make it. So it means that people are getting a monopoly without the exchange of information.
But the information sharing that comes with patent's on things such as hardware does allow people new ideas and share information that would otherwise be held under lock and key. And this in my mind is an extroudinarily good thing.
I was a little bit curious as to how many people have actually written an installer. It appears to me that most people believe that if you magically go to control panel and add/remove that the program will be removed.
You can easily write an installer that will leave files behind. The best places are usually places like winnt/system32. After all that's were all the upgraded system dll's are placed, and since there's so many files there people don't seem to look that hard. Personally I'd be looking through other things most notably though would be windows nt services to see if they plugged in anything spicy there.
Just remember just because you "uninstall" something doesn't mean it still isn't there.
You have to be able to walk before you can run. The information that you should learn at University should be a firm grounding in the theory and practices that you'll use as basis for your choosen field.
As far as new tecnologies and breakthroughs go you can never understand these things without a firm understanding of the basics behind it.
Donald Knuth's books the Art of Computer Programming, these books were written many years ago, yet the information contained within is extremely valid today. In fact they are considered to be books that most computer programmers that I know say "I have to get a copy of that"(if they don't already).
I personally believe that the most inportant thing a university degree shows is that you can learn and think. It's in fact a person's a ability to learn new things, solve problems, it's these things that are important. And a University degree should show that you have the ability to do this.
I only had a slight problem..
/etc/X11/Xserver still had my X server pointing to /usr/bin/X11/XF86_SVGA instead of /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 but then of course I didn't remove xserver-svga.
That was that
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<mitch> I wouldn't suppose anyone has seen JC's
<Morg\Away> maybe you should...
<Morg\Away> http://bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/finger.pl?id=1&time=
<barbarian> http://www.shugashack.com/finger/?fid=johnc@idsof
<Slade> i got the carmack thing handled
<Morg\Away> nice
<Slade> apparently carmack does not speak on the behalf of id software
<devkev> slade will the dl agreement stay?
<Slade> however slader is a very serious offense
<Morg\Away> ok back to away... be back in 10
<barbarian> I'd be careful if I were you
<barbarian> He owns a lot of id
<barbarian> If I were you, I would not fight JC + the FSF
<mitch> I wouldn't fuck with JC amn
<mitch> he correct way to stop cheating is to fix the fucking
<mitch> protocol.
!OpServ:*! hunnr is now an oper.
<Slade> nah JC's cool
<mitch> release a binary only proxy server,
<Slade> and yes we are fixing the protocol
<barbarian> ^B^BSlade: I don't know why you didn't just choose to write a client/server side proxy solution, given that there are a few codebases for proxies under various license available
<barbarian> (that is, QW proxies)
<Slade> barbarian: cause it doesnt work
<barbarian> ^B^BSlade: WHY doesn't it work? I have the bottim.tar.gz source (qprox.cc -- which I modified for multiple users in a couple hours) and the cheapo source
<devkev> slade will the dl agreement stay?
<barbarian> ^B^BSlade: I used to run http://anticheat.8m.com/, and I was a couple weeks from releasing a server side cheat detection proxy when the q1 source was released
<Slade> barbarian: cause they are easy to trick. i've been able to get around them with some simple editing of port numbers
<barbarian> ^B^BSlade: there are a number of issues, but if you use a comprehensive client and server side proxy solution it is possible to be very secure
<Slade> barbarian: got better issues
<Slade> barbarian: btw. you have to remember that carmack is already posting against us before we even made a release
<karith> barbarian: the only thing that would really work while keeping everything in the open is a netrek type solution using encryption
<Slade> barbarian: actually i've got 2 companies willing to devote the time for us
<barbarian> ^B^Bkarith: the qwforever project is taking that approach
<karith> otherwise you have to do things like use closed source proxies and that's hard
<six|inandout> slade owns
<karith> barbarian: you're not the first person to say that
<devkev> Slade^B:^B are you going to remove the downloading agreement?
<karith> which makes me wonder why QL doesn't just investigate that
<Slade> devkev: are you like that stupid? I've ignored you 3 times, what makes you think i wouldnt ignore you this time
<barbarian> ^B^BSlade: you're going to fight Carmack + id + the FSF + the open source community (i.e.
<devkev> Slade^B:^B i want an answer... yes or no.
<mitch> that means Slade doesn't know.
<Slade> devkev: tough
<devkev> Slade^B:^B fine
<mitch> Slade: YOU DON"T want to fuck with JC and lawyers over this shit man
<Slade> devkev: you'll find out when everyone else does
<Leviathon> rofl
<Majestic> lol
<Slade> as of right now, JC is nothing but a poorly paid PR agent of quakelives
<devkev> Slade^B:^B fine. you know how i feel about the current agreement (if you've read your email)
<Majestic> lol
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<Majestic> hmm
<mitch> Slade: Are you trying to say John Carmack couldn't beat you down with this?
<mitch> If he wanted to legally, he would easily win
<r3m-Dog_away> how bout them leafs eh?!
<Slade> mitch: legally? we havent done anything yet
<devkev> Slade^B:^B except the dl agreement
<Slade> mitch: second, he sues me, I show the judge a nice green piece of cardboard paper, judge says case dismissed and then the judge asks if i want to sue JC for harrassment
<Slade> devkev: nothing illegal about the agreement
<devkev> Slade^B:^B read my email
<barbarian> 6. Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from the original licensor to copy, distribute or modify the Program subject to these terms and conditions. You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein. You are not responsible for enforcing compliance by third parties to this License.
<devkev> barbarian^B:^B exactly
<DarkOne> Whine whine whine
<barbarian> specifically: "You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein."
<barbarian> from http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html\
ùíù You have new email.
<devkev> ?
<barbarian> if you guys are lucky enough, this may make slashdot.org
<Gr2[MC]> barb
<devkev> the agreement says you can't get the source otherwise
<devkev> thats a restriction
<six|inandout> barbarian: it's already made bluesnews
<Gr2[MC]> we have already made planetquake, voodooextreme, bluesnews
<Gr2[MC]> and every other gaming page in existence
<Gr2[MC]> we are getting like 5 hits per seconds
<Gr2[MC]> err
<Gr2[MC]> second
<Morg\Away> so everything is ok? quakelives continues to live (pun intended
<barbarian> ^B^Bsix|inandout: the wrath of
<barbarian> ^B^BGr2[MC] so put up banner ads...
<Gr2[MC]> no doubt
<Gr2[MC]> exactly
<DarkOne> People suck
<six|inandout> ah
<six|inandout> heh
<Gr2[MC]> heh
<Morg\Away> only linux nuts read slashdot
<Gr2[MC]> i need to figure out file locking for perl
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<Gr2[MC]> all these hits fucked our stats page up hardcore
<Gr2[MC]> heh
<DarkOne> lol'
<devkev> Morg\Away^B:^B actaully the stats show that most ppl reading
<karith> Morg\Away: actually, according to a poll 30% of slashdot's readership is win32 people
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<karith> 30%, not most
ð karith/#console bops devkev
<devkev> i meant more than any other os
<devkev> isn't it?
<DarkOne> I'm an anti-social bastard, will you be my friend?
<Gr2[MC]> i haven't looked at our forum yet
<Gr2[MC]> i'm afraid to
<Gr2[MC]> heh
<DarkOne> !!!
<DarkOne> Really?!
<barbarian> ^B^Bdevkev: where do I get those
<mitch> this is already on planetquake, Voodooextreme, and about to be on slashdot