A retrospective positive spin on how MS is about trashing your privacy in the interests of generating revenue, as it always was.
In early 2008, Microsoft Corp.'s product planners for the Internet Explorer 8.0 browser intended to give users a simple, effective way to avoid being tracked online. They wanted to design the software to automatically thwart common tracking tools, unless a user deliberately switched to settings affording less privacy. That triggered heated debate inside Microsoft..
Where did this happen, who were involved in the design stage, what were their names. Is their any verifiable citations for all of this? I follow the technology and I never heard of whiff of this.
As the leading maker of Web browsers, the gateway software to the Internet
Since when? Firefox, Opera are equal if not better, and have been for some time.
Microsoft built its browser so that users must deliberately turn on privacy settings every time they start up the software.
Where are these hidden privacy settings, all I see is a `Pop-up Blocker', a `Phishing Filter' `and Manage-Addons'
"Microsoft's original privacy plans for the new Explorer were "industry-leading" and technically superior to privacy features in earlier browsers, says Simon Davies, a privacy-rights advocate in the U.K. whom Microsoft consulted while forming its browser privacy plans"
Look all is going on here is Microsoft quoting a bogus puff piece erroneously stating that IE was "industry-leading" some time in the past, presumably in some parallel universe. When did MS innovate time travel ? Slashdot why are you wasting space giving free advertising space for Microsofts` Browser.
"I like the proposal [of] giving away the back-up strategy if XP is rejected,"
`We should see how we can "target" the funds for the specific research.. a way to position this around MSFT willing to possiblt give MORE if they research on stuff that is mutually interesting'
`I think we should name our new open source license and romance its creation. "Education Open Source" or something like that'
`Remember that a key part of our strategy is to create a situatuion where even if Nick rejects us for philosophical reasons there is a long and visable history of our attempts to work with them and then we have to ask to get a license for the "open source hardware" and we will make our own offering on the commercial side' Craig Mundie Oct 2005 link
"The OLPC News website in the past months has build up a reputation for sharply criticizing the $100 laptop.. It turns out that one of the site's authors works on an Intel project that is competing with the OLPC. Oops"
The manual for my `Cannon digital IXUS 860IS' has this to say regarding blurred images. Does this mean Cannon owes MS revenue for using its patented anti-blurring technology?
"The image stabilizer function allows you to minimize the camera shake effect (blurred images) when you shoot distant subjects that have been magnified or when you shoot in dark conditions without a flash"
The only difference between all these different versions is a compiler switch option, as in `GCC Windows -VHB - P32' and so on. Only a washing powder salesman could come up with this:]
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Basic
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 32-Bit
Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 32-Bit
Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 32-Bit with Downgrade Rights Service to Windows® XP Professional
Genuine Windows Vista® Business 32-Bit
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic 32-Bit
"Personally, I thought it was just a matter of time, as this was primarily a marketing experiment to cash in on a perceived hot commodity (Linux).
Someone else above used eerily similarly phraseology (`testing the waters of this option'). But never mind, lets smoke out some innovation shall we;)
"Now, lets interject what I am asking into the picture.... We invest big, big $$ in Dell. We will continue to invest big, big $$ in Dell. I am asking that we do this investment with our eyes wide open. I do not want to invest $$ in Dell to fund their Red Hat efforts. I am asking that:
a) we be quite prescriptive in our investments with Dell relative to the competitive threats we see with Linux
b) we constantly benchmark ourselves against the actions they do with RedHat"
Would you mind translating that into RedmondSpeak and tell us all what he really maent:)
I'm curious, is there a precedent for a third company pressuring Dell to drop Linux, under threat of retaliation?
"We should whack them, we should make sure they understand our value.. I want them to understand that every day they lead with Linux over Windows in Unix migrations they turn our field against them (take the southeast region mail thread as an example). I want them to think very very carefully about when and which forums they decide to push Linux very, very hard. Today, they do not. When they do, you can bet, behavior will evolve"
"HP discontinued its Linux SKUs beginning on November 18th. This is based on joint marketing effort that spans six months to promote low cost Windows SKU's with $30 extra channel incentives that focus on white box resellers"
It'll be interesting watching the MicroAstroturfers try and put a positive spin on the above statements.
"So, my understanding of this whole very interesting situation, is that journalism used to work by rewarding the journalists who went out and got a scoop, did investigative reporting or uncovered some huge scandal. That information was priceless and they would spend precious hours building up that report for an air date. Once their channel or printed paper ran that story, it would take a day or more for the rest to follow suit. Meanwhile you had a whole day of the public's attention on your channel/newspaper/magazine.
That hasn't been the case, at least since the days of Watergate, when real journalists working for the Washington Post broke the story. The self same Washington Post that brown-nosed Bush 11 in his bogus war on terror in Iraq. The same kind of `free' press that never broke the fake weapons of mass destruction dossier story here. The one journalist who did being fired and a weapons inspector being found `suicided' in the woods.
What killed real journalism was the concerted attempt by big business to co-opt it as an arm of corporate propaganda. It's the free Internet that's disrupting the strategy.
"I'm probably a minority dwarfed by free-loading readers, but free online NYT access led me to buy a full 7-day a week subscription to the paper"
And no one paid you to sit in a room all day typing out such propaganda:)
We're not `free-loading', we just don't see the need to pay for something twice. Once to our ISP and twice to the NYT. It would be like paying the washing machine company and the electric company to wash our own cloths. When are the media people and the ISPs goign to exercise their collective asses and move to micropayments.
The real problem is that the convertional news organizations such as the NYT don't seem to have yet realized how much of a game changer the Internet has become. You no longer control the news - now get used to it.
"Totally useless comment. An attack on a SCADA is a targetted attack. If you are running it on another type of OS, the attacker will simply write it for that OS. This isn't a SPAM dude. This is a directed spying attack.
Embedded systems are more secure than ones that you can write to. Of course then leaves in-memory attacks, which are a great deal more difficult to successfully carryout. Troubles with embedded-Windows is you don't really know what's running under the hood. A minimalist system capable of relaying packets from A to B is all that's required.
"The only time I've seen SCADA systems go bad is when corporate IT people get involved. IT people and SCADA don't mix."
Do you have any citations to real world examples?
"SCADA systems need a big firewall between their world and corporate IT departments."
The function of a firewall is to block access to processes using certain ports on a server. By not running unnecessary services you render a firewall unnecessary. Besides which in this day and age of RPC-over-HTML, a firewall is rendered next to useless.
"I used to work for a SCADA company our practice was to try to encourage.. to get the customer to cut the ties between the outside network and SCADA control system"
What company was that and why didn't you build in such functionality by default. Sounds something like a VPN running on embedded hardware?
Again, anonymous coward to the rescue. I know this is Slashdot but I wish CmdrTaco would stop commenting about high frequency trading, a subject he clearly knows just about nothing about
Appealing to authority is a bad sign. Listen up, the current stock market is nothing more than a gigantic shell game, with the brokers at one end and the mugs.. sorry `investors' at the other. All that jargon designed to confuse and confound the gullible. Here, listen up, I got some imaginary candles here for sale, you can't see them but they'll be worth something in six months, or at least that's what the fella who sold them to me said ?
I use MS Office for work, NeoOffice on my Mac, and Google Docs in between. I find Docs to be fine for general purpose stuff, but I agree that it is lacking fidelity
Whatever happened to Open Formats, sorry that should read Open Standards. I wonder will Microsofts' Office Live Workspace suffer the same fidelity problems. Or will the 'Office Live` people get full access to the msOffice developers?
Let's not forget that Sanger's report to the FBI accompanied his annoucement of a competeing service. There was nothing altruistic or righteous in that self-serving move
Where does it say that? The only link is to a deletion page on Wikipedia
A retrospective positive spin on how MS is about trashing your privacy in the interests of generating revenue, as it always was.
..
In early 2008, Microsoft Corp.'s product planners for the Internet Explorer 8.0 browser intended to give users a simple, effective way to avoid being tracked online. They wanted to design the software to automatically thwart common tracking tools, unless a user deliberately switched to settings affording less privacy. That triggered heated debate inside Microsoft
Where did this happen, who were involved in the design stage, what were their names. Is their any verifiable citations for all of this? I follow the technology and I never heard of whiff of this.
As the leading maker of Web browsers, the gateway software to the Internet
Since when? Firefox, Opera are equal if not better, and have been for some time.
Microsoft built its browser so that users must deliberately turn on privacy settings every time they start up the software.
Where are these hidden privacy settings, all I see is a `Pop-up Blocker', a `Phishing Filter' `and Manage-Addons'
"Microsoft's original privacy plans for the new Explorer were "industry-leading" and technically superior to privacy features in earlier browsers, says Simon Davies, a privacy-rights advocate in the U.K. whom Microsoft consulted while forming its browser privacy plans"
Look all is going on here is Microsoft quoting a bogus puff piece erroneously stating that IE was "industry-leading" some time in the past, presumably in some parallel universe. When did MS innovate time travel ? Slashdot why are you wasting space giving free advertising space for Microsofts` Browser.
"I like the proposal [of] giving away the back-up strategy if XP is rejected,"
.. a way to position this around MSFT willing to possiblt give MORE if they research on stuff that is mutually interesting'
.. It turns out that one of the site's authors works on an Intel project that is competing with the OLPC. Oops"
`We should see how we can "target" the funds for the specific research
`I think we should name our new open source license and romance its creation. "Education Open Source" or something like that'
`Remember that a key part of our strategy is to create a situatuion where even if Nick rejects us for philosophical reasons there is a long and visable history of our attempts to work with them and then we have to ask to get a license for the "open source hardware" and we will make our own offering on the commercial side' Craig Mundie Oct 2005 link
"The OLPC News website in the past months has build up a reputation for sharply criticizing the $100 laptop
Why Microsoft Must Control One Laptop Per Child
The manual for my `Cannon digital IXUS 860IS' has this to say regarding blurred images. Does this mean Cannon owes MS revenue for using its patented anti-blurring technology?
"The image stabilizer function allows you to minimize the camera shake effect (blurred images) when you shoot distant subjects that have been magnified or when you shoot in dark conditions without a flash"
Don't buy devices that come with timed expiration date software controlled dongles!
Why did the UPS require a dongle. Why did the dongle have an expiration date?
The only difference between all these different versions is a compiler switch option, as in `GCC Windows -VHB - P32' and so on. Only a washing powder salesman could come up with this :]
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Basic
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 32-Bit
Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 32-Bit
Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 32-Bit with Downgrade Rights Service to Windows® XP Professional
Genuine Windows Vista® Business 32-Bit
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic 32-Bit
Ubuntu® Linux®
"Personally, I thought it was just a matter of time, as this was primarily a marketing experiment to cash in on a perceived hot commodity (Linux).
;)
:)
Someone else above used eerily similarly phraseology (`testing the waters of this option'). But never mind, lets smoke out some innovation shall we
"Now, lets interject what I am asking into the picture.... We invest big, big $$ in Dell. We will continue to invest big, big $$ in Dell. I am asking that we do this investment with our eyes wide open. I do not want to invest $$ in Dell to fund their Red Hat efforts. I am asking that: a) we be quite prescriptive in our investments with Dell relative to the competitive threats we see with Linux b) we constantly benchmark ourselves against the actions they do with RedHat"
Would you mind translating that into RedmondSpeak and tell us all what he really maent
I'm curious, is there a precedent for a third company pressuring Dell to drop Linux, under threat of retaliation?
.. I want them to understand that every day they lead with Linux over Windows in Unix migrations they turn our field against them (take the southeast region mail thread as an example). I want them to think very very carefully about when and which forums they decide to push Linux very, very hard. Today, they do not. When they do, you can bet, behavior will evolve"
"We should whack them, we should make sure they understand our value
"HP discontinued its Linux SKUs beginning on November 18th. This is based on joint marketing effort that spans six months to promote low cost Windows SKU's with $30 extra channel incentives that focus on white box resellers"
It'll be interesting watching the MicroAstroturfers try and put a positive spin on the above statements.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1872/dellbeforeafter.png
"They no long want to sell you a computer with ubuntu. So, buy it elsewhere"
;)
Shurly, Microsoft don't want Dell to sell you a computer with Linux
> If you have a better suggestion, I am sure they'd love to hear it.
When are the media people and the ISPs going to exercise their collective asses and move to micropayments ?
"So, my understanding of this whole very interesting situation, is that journalism used to work by rewarding the journalists who went out and got a scoop, did investigative reporting or uncovered some huge scandal. That information was priceless and they would spend precious hours building up that report for an air date. Once their channel or printed paper ran that story, it would take a day or more for the rest to follow suit. Meanwhile you had a whole day of the public's attention on your channel/newspaper/magazine.
That hasn't been the case, at least since the days of Watergate, when real journalists working for the Washington Post broke the story. The self same Washington Post that brown-nosed Bush 11 in his bogus war on terror in Iraq. The same kind of `free' press that never broke the fake weapons of mass destruction dossier story here. The one journalist who did being fired and a weapons inspector being found `suicided' in the woods.
What killed real journalism was the concerted attempt by big business to co-opt it as an arm of corporate propaganda. It's the free Internet that's disrupting the strategy.
"I'm probably a minority dwarfed by free-loading readers, but free online NYT access led me to buy a full 7-day a week subscription to the paper"
:)
And no one paid you to sit in a room all day typing out such propaganda
We're not `free-loading', we just don't see the need to pay for something twice. Once to our ISP and twice to the NYT. It would be like paying the washing machine company and the electric company to wash our own cloths. When are the media people and the ISPs goign to exercise their collective asses and move to micropayments. The real problem is that the convertional news organizations such as the NYT don't seem to have yet realized how much of a game changer the Internet has become. You no longer control the news - now get used to it.
They failed to correctly patch windows, they would just as likely fail to correctly patch linux or any other OS too
..
Bullshit
"Totally useless comment. An attack on a SCADA is a targetted attack. If you are running it on another type of OS, the attacker will simply write it for that OS. This isn't a SPAM dude. This is a directed spying attack.
Embedded systems are more secure than ones that you can write to. Of course then leaves in-memory attacks, which are a great deal more difficult to successfully carryout. Troubles with embedded-Windows is you don't really know what's running under the hood. A minimalist system capable of relaying packets from A to B is all that's required.
"The only time I've seen SCADA systems go bad is when corporate IT people get involved. IT people and SCADA don't mix."
Do you have any citations to real world examples?
"SCADA systems need a big firewall between their world and corporate IT departments."
The function of a firewall is to block access to processes using certain ports on a server. By not running unnecessary services you render a firewall unnecessary. Besides which in this day and age of RPC-over-HTML, a firewall is rendered next to useless.
"I used to work for a SCADA company our practice was to try to encourage .. to get the customer to cut the ties between the outside network and SCADA control system"
What company was that and why didn't you build in such functionality by default. Sounds something like a VPN running on embedded hardware?
Why, in this day and age, are SCADA units still accessible from the public InterTUBES ?
Slammer worm crashed Ohio nuke plant net
Software failure cited in August blackout investigation
Did Blaster worm play a role in August 14 blackout?
Again, anonymous coward to the rescue. I know this is Slashdot but I wish CmdrTaco would stop commenting about high frequency trading, a subject he clearly knows just about nothing about
.. sorry `investors' at the other. All that jargon designed to confuse and confound the gullible. Here, listen up, I got some imaginary candles here for sale, you can't see them but they'll be worth something in six months, or at least that's what the fella who sold them to me said ?
Appealing to authority is a bad sign. Listen up, the current stock market is nothing more than a gigantic shell game, with the brokers at one end and the mugs
Trans-quantitative Shell Game is all ..
> a single memory bit that had erroneously flipped from a 0 to a 1.
Didn't this used to be known as a soft error, as in cosmic rays passing through the chip and flipping a bit.
I use MS Office for work, NeoOffice on my Mac, and Google Docs in between. I find Docs to be fine for general purpose stuff, but I agree that it is lacking fidelity
Whatever happened to Open Formats, sorry that should read Open Standards. I wonder will Microsofts' Office Live Workspace suffer the same fidelity problems. Or will the 'Office Live` people get full access to the msOffice developers?
Let's not forget that Sanger's report to the FBI accompanied his annoucement of a competeing service. There was nothing altruistic or righteous in that self-serving move
Where does it say that? The only link is to a deletion page on Wikipedia
Sanger's Message to the FBI.
Visual Basic 6, and VB.Net ..
HAAAAAA !!!!
Yes, a non-issue, the Telecoms rely on each other to correctly route traffic.
Yea, the ecompmy would run perfectly if the big bad Government didn't interfere ...