300 USD might buy you 3GB flash after some rebate crap. By the time this product comes out in 1-2 years, the final price will likely to be less and just below equivalent flash capacity. See what happened to IBM Microdrives vs. CompactFlash... It is not earth shattering invention, just normal evolution. Now 30 GB in that size, that would be somethin'.
But for most people film is still better. A typical person who shoots 5-10 rolls a year on vacations and at parties will find that digital has a much higher per-shot cost over the lifetime of the camera; a $300 digital gives comperable features and feel to a $30 P&S film camera. At 5-10 rolls/year you will never recoup those costs over the life of the camera.
Well, most people who shot 5-10 rolls a year with their classic camera, tend to shoot 500-1000 pictures (ie. 25-50 rolls) of digital pictures, and then throw 30-60% away for bad lighting, exposure, saturation, etc. I've seen it happening.
How does a CCD react to a long (several minutes) exposure? Does the charge bleed off and it behaves sort of like film?
Yes it does, you can overexpose digital pictures, and it is really bad. I have done it by framing sunsets a little too early. Does not tend to damage the sensor, but the picture is sure ruined. But with tiny aperture you can sure have 5-10 minute exposures, it behaves just like the film in that sense (probably the curves are different, I mean the light vs. overexpose-ness), but it can be controlled.
The simple cheap box is really not that simple, or cheap. I've seen used 8x10 for around 7000 USD. The lens has to be incredibly good quality not to interfere with the very high resolution of the large format films.
And about digital push: I think it is more appropriate to say digital pull! It is consumerism that drives this, all these people want to get digital cameras (#1 most wanted gift this season).
While I know about a lot of limitations of digitals (because I am interesed in it), I think around 10-12MP (1-2 years) is where we are getting into true film quality for most everybody's needs. Professionals need to wait for 50-100MP (5-10 years) to really get film equivalent. Even after this there will be people (and they are much needed, and appreciated) who will use the 35mm and the 8x10 films, just for the hack of it...
After all, there are still LPs pressed nowadays, (check out Thievery Corporation's at eslmusic.com) and without them the world would be a (slightly) more boring place.
Wow, good quote, thanks. That should really settle it. The truly amazing thing is by looking at the mavicas I would not have taken up digital photography. C'mon using floppy for storage, and fitting up to 50-60 pictures on it???? Like 50k each! Yuck!
could go a long way towards creating a political discourse with more substance than the Democrats calling the Republicans rich Nazi bastards and the Republicans calling the Democrats tree-hugging hippy Communists.
Off-topic: This is my number one favorite slashdot quote, ever!
On-topic: People would put moderates first, since most people tend to be moderates, or prefer candidates with moderate views. I have not met many Bill O'Rileys or Al Sharptons in my private circles...
Yes, it wouldn't be mainsteam. But 8x10 is hardly mainstream either. Last time I checked *USED* cameras like Adams used still cost in ther range of $7-$8 grand.
Making that large a specialty digital sensor would cost a pretty penny, but Nikon (or whoever would take up the task) would easily be making 30% profit selling them at $10K.
I would definitely go with a mono DSLR (or full SLR size), but I don't aspire to the heights of photograhy where Adams got.
Yes, long exposure is Adams signature style, that is because he used tiny apertures, and the light came through such a tiny hole, that it needed a good long time to make the impression on the film. This however is clearly worth when photographing static objects, since it has increadible clarity. You can conversely do this with digital cameras as well.
Having chemical controls vs. access to level, saturation and brightness is almost the same. He could have mastered the digital techinques easily. Think about it, the whole thing is really not about how you achieve your goal, but what your goal is (in aesthetic sense).
Other thing: 50 megapixel monochrome is 150 megapixel color (as in digital photography each they count photo-sensors as pixels regardless of color, unlike in LCDs, where they count groups of different color photo-emitting diodes as pixels.) and 6 megapixels are way more than enough for 4x6 printed.
That is not true. A lot of Green party voters (who got blamed by the Dems for Al Gore loss) would have put Al as second choice (ie. lesser of two evils), giving him Florida easily, therefore handing him the presidency by not allowing the five judges to decide on their favorite.
I think Ansel Adams would not have said no to a 8x10 monochrome digital backpanel. Think in the range of 40-60 Magepixel. It is way, way beyond even ISO 50 films. Absolute lack of film grain, and because of monochrome, it would even lack interpolation artifacts.
Having monchrome would eliminate the need of heavy image processing, like interpolation: getting RGB pixels for each pixel which is either R, G or B. In fact, thinking about it, I cannot wait to be able to buy digital SLR with monochrome backs...
I don't think that is a "problem" as you put it. It is a feature!
Seriously though, that is up to the voter. If he/she/it(AI) does not want to choose 2nd, 3rd, etc he/she/it can leave it open (let others decide). I good voter (ie informed one) will easily be able to create a best to worst list among any number of candidates, and almost anyone can choose the first 3 (that is in most cases enough depth to provide a clear cut decision).
The uproar over GWB presidency was that he got less than 1/n-th of the votes, (where n=number of candidates) and he got to be the Prez, just because some judges chose him... I don't think having 5 candidates, and winning with 21% would cause such an uproar. You gotta give credit to your average voter, they have finished kindergarten, you know.
I don't think its something that a new repartitioning (fdisk et al) cannot disable. They probably encode / encrypt the boot sector, but that can be fixed with fdisk. Saying that the drive is not usable in other computers is incorrect.
Also you will be exposing yourself to the much revered "scorched earth" product support methodology of Apple. I was a happy owner of the touch-wheel tactile-button iPod for 3 months, after which they refused to implement the on-the-go playlist option for that model, leaving the only $500 upgrade path for the feature...
This allows the treatment to be fine tuned so it only affects the tissues at a very specific depth - unlike traditional therapies which zap everything in the line of fire.
Well that is not true as stated.
Even regular X-Ray therapy those pesky alpha particles receive quite a spin, so they go straight to the set depth and then disperse, thus forming a focal point, without destroying any tissue in-between.
Think of it as playing pool, you can hit the ball so it goes straight with quite a spin on it, and as the ball slows down, the spin catches on, and makes to ball change direction.
He rates them 3 and 2 "cuckoos" respectively, where a 3 is "almost certainly not true" and 2 is "very likely not true."
But here, we come to my first strong disagreement with him. If the effects aren't strong enough to measure, why the asymmetry in the "cuckoo" rating for the pro and anti side? I might rate them both at a 2 myself.
Maybe you should consider the extreme limits of both approach to understand the assymetry: 0 guns means 0 crimes commited with firearms. 100% saturation might mean a) slightly more crime b) sam amount of crime c) slightly less crime.
Thanks for the insight. I wasn't aware of the Swedish PhD position scarcity. Here in the US, the TA jobs are usually filled with PhD students, and if there is any left those are filled with Master's stundets. I have yet to see a TA that is not a student at the same time.
I agree with you on the other count as well, unexperienced students walk off the beaten path (thankfully).
I would, however, disagree with you on PhD students not taking up hard problems. It is true that it is unsafe (ie. might never achieve closure, where closure is actually the diploma), but I would say that is the T.R.U.E.(tm) PhD. Out of my quite large group of PhD students (15-20) I only know one who really went into an unsafe territory (Math PhD), and not coincidentally he is the one still a student after 5 years (having suffered multiple setbacks), while all others have finished. However there is really no way of distinguishing one PhD from another based on this criteria (since there is only few who can even understand the thesises). I guess if you want the paper for the paper's sake, go for it, but if you have a calling, that will take time.
Well (after being through myself) I tend to disagree with your oversimplification (even if there is a tiny teeny-weeny truth in you assesment):
1. It was her job. (she is a grad student and a teaching asst, therefore has a JOB even if it way underpaid).
2. Just the other day/. had an article about how most researchers have major breakthroughs before their 30s. That article offered several ideas why is that, like (simplified): need for show-off, extra time because of lack of families, etc...
3. She is not a "college kid" as you put it, but a PhD student (she does not fit into the same drug-imbibing, all-night partying picture)
All over the world the statistics show that as a person gets more and more education under the belt, the tendency is the he/she gets more liberal views. This is even true here in the US despite the fact that it is the western bed of christian relegious extremism. As we all know the "geeks and nerds" who hang out here are educated way beyond your average, therefore liberal views are abound.
People tend to chose friends on compatibility of views and award points based on them (customarily but contrary to Cowboy Neal's metamoderation guidelines).
Ashcroft is clearly gay. He might have a mister, but no mistress. He can't even stand looking at the boobs, so had them covered for just a few $100Ks of taxpayer money.
A famous (almost, but not really) last word. You like the physics dude at the end of 19th century (I think he was French?) who said: Once we nix this dilemma (ie. why does the photographic paper darken when uranium is placed on it) we will have a complete knowledge of the Universe. A-bomb, relativity and holograms are just a few that came right afterwards.
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300 USD might buy you 3GB flash after some rebate crap. By the time this product comes out in 1-2 years, the final price will likely to be less and just below equivalent flash capacity. See what happened to IBM Microdrives vs. CompactFlash... It is not earth shattering invention, just normal evolution. Now 30 GB in that size, that would be somethin'.
But for most people film is still better. A typical person who shoots 5-10 rolls a year on vacations and at parties will find that digital has a much higher per-shot cost over the lifetime of the camera; a $300 digital gives comperable features and feel to a $30 P&S film camera. At 5-10 rolls/year you will never recoup those costs over the life of the camera.
Well, most people who shot 5-10 rolls a year with their classic camera, tend to shoot 500-1000 pictures (ie. 25-50 rolls) of digital pictures, and then throw 30-60% away for bad lighting, exposure, saturation, etc. I've seen it happening.
How does a CCD react to a long (several minutes) exposure? Does the charge bleed off and it behaves sort of like film?
Yes it does, you can overexpose digital pictures, and it is really bad. I have done it by framing sunsets a little too early. Does not tend to damage the sensor, but the picture is sure ruined. But with tiny aperture you can sure have 5-10 minute exposures, it behaves just like the film in that sense (probably the curves are different, I mean the light vs. overexpose-ness), but it can be controlled.
The simple cheap box is really not that simple, or cheap. I've seen used 8x10 for around 7000 USD. The lens has to be incredibly good quality not to interfere with the very high resolution of the large format films.
And about digital push: I think it is more appropriate to say digital pull! It is consumerism that drives this, all these people want to get digital cameras (#1 most wanted gift this season).
While I know about a lot of limitations of digitals (because I am interesed in it), I think around 10-12MP (1-2 years) is where we are getting into true film quality for most everybody's needs. Professionals need to wait for 50-100MP (5-10 years) to really get film equivalent. Even after this there will be people (and they are much needed, and appreciated) who will use the 35mm and the 8x10 films, just for the hack of it...
After all, there are still LPs pressed nowadays, (check out Thievery Corporation's at eslmusic.com) and without them the world would be a (slightly) more boring place.
Wow, good quote, thanks. That should really settle it. The truly amazing thing is by looking at the mavicas I would not have taken up digital photography. C'mon using floppy for storage, and fitting up to 50-60 pictures on it???? Like 50k each! Yuck!
could go a long way towards creating a political discourse with more substance than the Democrats calling the Republicans rich Nazi bastards and the Republicans calling the Democrats tree-hugging hippy Communists.
Off-topic: This is my number one favorite slashdot quote, ever!
On-topic: People would put moderates first, since most people tend to be moderates, or prefer candidates with moderate views. I have not met many Bill O'Rileys or Al Sharptons in my private circles...
Yes, it wouldn't be mainsteam. But 8x10 is hardly mainstream either. Last time I checked *USED* cameras like Adams used still cost in ther range of $7-$8 grand.
Making that large a specialty digital sensor would cost a pretty penny, but Nikon (or whoever would take up the task) would easily be making 30% profit selling them at $10K.
I would definitely go with a mono DSLR (or full SLR size), but I don't aspire to the heights of photograhy where Adams got.
Yes, long exposure is Adams signature style, that is because he used tiny apertures, and the light came through such a tiny hole, that it needed a good long time to make the impression on the film. This however is clearly worth when photographing static objects, since it has increadible clarity. You can conversely do this with digital cameras as well.
Having chemical controls vs. access to level, saturation and brightness is almost the same. He could have mastered the digital techinques easily. Think about it, the whole thing is really not about how you achieve your goal, but what your goal is (in aesthetic sense).
Other thing: 50 megapixel monochrome is 150 megapixel color (as in digital photography each they count photo-sensors as pixels regardless of color, unlike in LCDs, where they count groups of different color photo-emitting diodes as pixels.) and 6 megapixels are way more than enough for 4x6 printed.
That is not true. A lot of Green party voters (who got blamed by the Dems for Al Gore loss) would have put Al as second choice (ie. lesser of two evils), giving him Florida easily, therefore handing him the presidency by not allowing the five judges to decide on their favorite.
I think Ansel Adams would not have said no to a 8x10 monochrome digital backpanel. Think in the range of 40-60 Magepixel. It is way, way beyond even ISO 50 films. Absolute lack of film grain, and because of monochrome, it would even lack interpolation artifacts.
Having monchrome would eliminate the need of heavy image processing, like interpolation: getting RGB pixels for each pixel which is either R, G or B. In fact, thinking about it, I cannot wait to be able to buy digital SLR with monochrome backs...
I don't think that is a "problem" as you put it. It is a feature!
Seriously though, that is up to the voter. If he/she/it(AI) does not want to choose 2nd, 3rd, etc he/she/it can leave it open (let others decide). I good voter (ie informed one) will easily be able to create a best to worst list among any number of candidates, and almost anyone can choose the first 3 (that is in most cases enough depth to provide a clear cut decision).
The uproar over GWB presidency was that he got less than 1/n-th of the votes, (where n=number of candidates) and he got to be the Prez, just because some judges chose him... I don't think having 5 candidates, and winning with 21% would cause such an uproar. You gotta give credit to your average voter, they have finished kindergarten, you know.
I don't think its something that a new repartitioning (fdisk et al) cannot disable. They probably encode / encrypt the boot sector, but that can be fixed with fdisk. Saying that the drive is not usable in other computers is incorrect.
Ok, then I have expreience in ++C, C+1, C++ and ++C++--, as well.
Also you will be exposing yourself to the much revered "scorched earth" product support methodology of Apple. I was a happy owner of the touch-wheel tactile-button iPod for 3 months, after which they refused to implement the on-the-go playlist option for that model, leaving the only $500 upgrade path for the feature...
Ok, this is what happens when I don't double check my info...
Of course it is gamma particles. Sorry for the wrong info.
The spin I have heard from an X-Ray equipment technician, so I am pretty sure it is good info.
Focusing I am 100% sure of. And the fact that x-ray is also depth-contrallable treatment I am even surer (if there is such a thing).
And I don't smoke crack, I heard it is bad for your teeth...
Even regular X-Ray therapy those pesky alpha particles receive quite a spin, so they go straight to the set depth and then disperse, thus forming a focal point, without destroying any tissue in-between.
Think of it as playing pool, you can hit the ball so it goes straight with quite a spin on it, and as the ball slows down, the spin catches on, and makes to ball change direction.
Where slightly means 30 some %
I'm a "guns are for killing" kind of guy myself.
He rates them 3 and 2 "cuckoos" respectively, where a 3 is "almost certainly not true" and 2 is "very likely not true."
But here, we come to my first strong disagreement with him. If the effects aren't strong enough to measure, why the asymmetry in the "cuckoo" rating for the pro and anti side? I might rate them both at a 2 myself.
Maybe you should consider the extreme limits of both approach to understand the assymetry: 0 guns means 0 crimes commited with firearms. 100% saturation might mean a) slightly more crime b) sam amount of crime c) slightly less crime.
Thanks for the insight. I wasn't aware of the Swedish PhD position scarcity. Here in the US, the TA jobs are usually filled with PhD students, and if there is any left those are filled with Master's stundets. I have yet to see a TA that is not a student at the same time.
I agree with you on the other count as well, unexperienced students walk off the beaten path (thankfully).
I would, however, disagree with you on PhD students not taking up hard problems. It is true that it is unsafe (ie. might never achieve closure, where closure is actually the diploma), but I would say that is the T.R.U.E.(tm) PhD. Out of my quite large group of PhD students (15-20) I only know one who really went into an unsafe territory (Math PhD), and not coincidentally he is the one still a student after 5 years (having suffered multiple setbacks), while all others have finished. However there is really no way of distinguishing one PhD from another based on this criteria (since there is only few who can even understand the thesises). I guess if you want the paper for the paper's sake, go for it, but if you have a calling, that will take time.
Well (after being through myself) I tend to disagree with your oversimplification (even if there is a tiny teeny-weeny truth in you assesment):
/. had an article about how most researchers have major breakthroughs before their 30s. That article offered several ideas why is that, like (simplified): need for show-off, extra time because of lack of families, etc...
1. It was her job. (she is a grad student and a teaching asst, therefore has a JOB even if it way underpaid).
2. Just the other day
3. She is not a "college kid" as you put it, but a PhD student (she does not fit into the same drug-imbibing, all-night partying picture)
So all I gotta do is bang my head to loose my accent.
It would be helpful to know which way to bang it to get the midwestern one instead of the hillbilly...
You know, the place where the Freedom Fries come from. Freedonce?
Well, please consider this:
All over the world the statistics show that as a person gets more and more education under the belt, the tendency is the he/she gets more liberal views. This is even true here in the US despite the fact that it is the western bed of christian relegious extremism. As we all know the "geeks and nerds" who hang out here are educated way beyond your average, therefore liberal views are abound.
People tend to chose friends on compatibility of views and award points based on them (customarily but contrary to Cowboy Neal's metamoderation guidelines).
So I gues in summary: eat your sock, AC.
Bravo Rush! Give it to them!
I didn't know they let you surf from the rehab.
Ashcroft is clearly gay. He might have a mister, but no mistress. He can't even stand looking at the boobs, so had them covered for just a few $100Ks of taxpayer money.
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Ballpoint pen shipments exceed 1 billion per week.