Great advice for novices or amateurs. I do work in a web shop, and all the designers here have access to Dreamweaver licenses if they want it. I can't remember the last time any of them actually used it. They all have Creative Suite Web premium or whatever it is, photoshop, etc. They are more productive without Dreamweaver. You want to see what your code looks like in browser? Then look at it in a browser. Editors are for editing, and browsers are for.... browsing. Works great.
Bollocks. Look at Netcraft's top 20. Only 2 run IIS, and those are MS owned domains. Everybody else is Linux + something else. The web is not so friendly to MS.
I was really just responding to your comment about "no license fees". There is fees for Windows, and most of the MS developer and production stuff. There is the outright cost of those licenses, and then the hidden costs of security, viruses, etc, and the hidden cost of having to install a bunch of stuff just to be productive. Its not an environment I can be as productive in. Its that simple. I have had plenty of occasion to use Windows, and I just plain don't care for it. I am not necessarily discrediting it as something someone else might find useful. The good points, are outweighed by the bad. At least for me.
I am constantly reminded of that every time I am on a MS system and want to set up multiple desktops, use a decent text editor, open a terminal, try a grep, rsync a webserver, and so on. A significant part of what I do is to manage my employer's servers (virtual and not), and most of those are LAMP (web production). MS is just not in the game there.
Until they make a version that runs natively on Linux, you still have to buy (or acquire) a version of Windows. So there is some cost / hassle there for some of us, and the biggest reason I can't consider them as a development platform.
They probably do want to unify all their platforms. Then they can leverage their de facto monopolies to wedge into the tablet and Mobile markets where they have failed miserably. The possum in the wood pile is how many people will revolt from the new UI. Just because MS shills and bloggers like it does not mean the buying public will. It has had absolutely zero appeal on phones.
I dont think there's been a single other player out there who can stand to compete against Microsoft in it's ability to generate huge amounts of press and fanfare in unreleased products that ultimately become unparalleled market failures.
Frankly, Microsoft would do well to take a note from Apple's playbook and SHUT THE FUCK UP about the product until it's release instead of blathering like a spastic child about it's vaporware, leaking feature after feature and allowing the competition to catch up or even surpass it's abilities before the product is even launched.
They don't have much else to talk about. Their sales suck. They are years behind the curve on most features that people want. Nobody cares (except MS employees, shills and bloggers), and the new UI is not doing a friggin thing for them. If that new UI has the same effect when it comes to the desktop, they will have even bigger problems. Its pretty tough for them to try to be in that market and get your ass kicked day in and day out. To have any hope of being a respected player, all they can do is talk. As pitiful as it sounds, it still seems to generate some press.
Windows is also Operating System for Dummies, Desktop for Dummies and Internet for Dummies all in one convenient package. Malware authors know they have a much better chance of such people not updating their software and doing other dummy kinds of things. Its a natural fit.
Yea, I was thinking it was the lunatics running the asylum, but it might be lawyers, indeed. What a sorry state of affairs that this kind of BS is not stopped at the door. "Get the fuck out and don't try that crap again".
We, the people (ha!), have a moral obligation to not only ignore laws that are clearly designed to work against, but to subvert them through civil disobedience and any other means to render them impossible to enforce. Like prohibition... eat, DRINK, and be merry.
Good point about Android manufacturers. That's part of the downside of a fragmented marketplace. RIM and Apple just have to sell you on their platform while Android people have to sell you on their particular models, and that's frankly hard when they are so generic.
If its so hard, why are they at something like 46% marketshare?
Yea, missed the point. It doesn't have to work that way, and probably doesn't even really work that way. Why do you need a boatload browser skin/UI cruft, to render html?
Historically, MS did this so resellers could not remove IE in favor of "alternative browsers", which is what happened before the anti-trust shit hit the fan. Then, without even winking, they told congress that the OS was dependent on the browser and there was no way to remove it, or somesuch bs.
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It only seems that way to the miserably uninformed. Relax. Smoke something.
Great advice for novices or amateurs. I do work in a web shop, and all the designers here have access to Dreamweaver licenses if they want it. I can't remember the last time any of them actually used it. They all have Creative Suite Web premium or whatever it is, photoshop, etc. They are more productive without Dreamweaver. You want to see what your code looks like in browser? Then look at it in a browser. Editors are for editing, and browsers are for .... browsing. Works great.
Lmao. You forgot the smiley!
Bollocks. Look at Netcraft's top 20. Only 2 run IIS, and those are MS owned domains. Everybody else is Linux + something else. The web is not so friendly to MS.
Most of the big names in that league (Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc), are running Linux. So, yes that's quite true.
I was really just responding to your comment about "no license fees". There is fees for Windows, and most of the MS developer and production stuff. There is the outright cost of those licenses, and then the hidden costs of security, viruses, etc, and the hidden cost of having to install a bunch of stuff just to be productive. Its not an environment I can be as productive in. Its that simple. I have had plenty of occasion to use Windows, and I just plain don't care for it. I am not necessarily discrediting it as something someone else might find useful. The good points, are outweighed by the bad. At least for me. I am constantly reminded of that every time I am on a MS system and want to set up multiple desktops, use a decent text editor, open a terminal, try a grep, rsync a webserver, and so on. A significant part of what I do is to manage my employer's servers (virtual and not), and most of those are LAMP (web production). MS is just not in the game there.
Buying or acquiring Linux is somehow less hassle than buying or acquiring Windows?
Yes, significantly so. Its just an apt-get upgrade every now and then. I'd say pretty close to hassle free.
Facebook?
Until they make a version that runs natively on Linux, you still have to buy (or acquire) a version of Windows. So there is some cost / hassle there for some of us, and the biggest reason I can't consider them as a development platform.
They probably do want to unify all their platforms. Then they can leverage their de facto monopolies to wedge into the tablet and Mobile markets where they have failed miserably. The possum in the wood pile is how many people will revolt from the new UI. Just because MS shills and bloggers like it does not mean the buying public will. It has had absolutely zero appeal on phones.
Don't forget the web variant, OWA. "Shit" is too kind of a word.
I dont think there's been a single other player out there who can stand to compete against Microsoft in it's ability to generate huge amounts of press and fanfare in unreleased products that ultimately become unparalleled market failures.
Frankly, Microsoft would do well to take a note from Apple's playbook and SHUT THE FUCK UP about the product until it's release instead of blathering like a spastic child about it's vaporware, leaking feature after feature and allowing the competition to catch up or even surpass it's abilities before the product is even launched.
They don't have much else to talk about. Their sales suck. They are years behind the curve on most features that people want. Nobody cares (except MS employees, shills and bloggers), and the new UI is not doing a friggin thing for them. If that new UI has the same effect when it comes to the desktop, they will have even bigger problems. Its pretty tough for them to try to be in that market and get your ass kicked day in and day out. To have any hope of being a respected player, all they can do is talk. As pitiful as it sounds, it still seems to generate some press.
Oh please. I just read a survey that 2% of Europeans are even considering Nokia / MS. It is and was DOA.
Next years winphone looks a lot like last years Android phone. This is indeed great progress, but too little too late to matter.
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Only someone who lives in a cave would not know about this.
Windows is also Operating System for Dummies, Desktop for Dummies and Internet for Dummies all in one convenient package. Malware authors know they have a much better chance of such people not updating their software and doing other dummy kinds of things. Its a natural fit.
Partially correct. There is private messaging.
"Law" implies some kind of due process. This is more how authoritarian regimes work, by decree.
Yea, I was thinking it was the lunatics running the asylum, but it might be lawyers, indeed. What a sorry state of affairs that this kind of BS is not stopped at the door. "Get the fuck out and don't try that crap again".
Don't forget about mobile, tablets and the like. Sucking hind titty there.
We, the people (ha!), have a moral obligation to not only ignore laws that are clearly designed to work against, but to subvert them through civil disobedience and any other means to render them impossible to enforce. Like prohibition ... eat, DRINK, and be merry.
Good point about Android manufacturers. That's part of the downside of a fragmented marketplace. RIM and Apple just have to sell you on their platform while Android people have to sell you on their particular models, and that's frankly hard when they are so generic.
If its so hard, why are they at something like 46% marketshare?
Yea, missed the point. It doesn't have to work that way, and probably doesn't even really work that way. Why do you need a boatload browser skin/UI cruft, to render html? Historically, MS did this so resellers could not remove IE in favor of "alternative browsers", which is what happened before the anti-trust shit hit the fan. Then, without even winking, they told congress that the OS was dependent on the browser and there was no way to remove it, or somesuch bs.
Aren't there things like system libraries for this kind of thing? Why would an OS be dependent on an application for core features?