It is readable, but it isn't as good as the real thing. They're unreadable either way, and it's not because CSS was used,
When 90% of the sites use it use it bad, then i'm not going to accept its the person, then its the standard.
You can continue complaining about IE not letting you change your text size, but realize that's an IE bug; it works fine in every other browser out there. Maybe you could complain to Microsoft?
Its by design since absolute size means absolute size - the others are doing it wrong if they don't respect that (apparently). Which one of these sounds better to you?
Its not either or. As far as i am concerned readabilty is the most important thing, and if they can't do that without sacrificing some things, then so be it.
I suggest you try to get a better understanding of things like this before ranting about wanting them banned.
And I suggest you learn to respect that some people may disagree without, not simply because they haven't yet understood your point of view but because they disagree with you.
Your problem with CSS seems to be with the way bad web designers implement it, not CSS itself. CSS is a godsend for web design/development if you care anything about, say, saving bandwidth or making the design simple to modify. Don't blame the technology, blame the people misusing it. Doing otherwise makes you sound like a luddite.
Its a godsendt because know they can design bad pages that much more easily. You pick whatever condecening moniker that makes you feel happy.
You've probably already seen it, but if you haven't, take a look at Retooling Slashdot with Web Standards to see how using CSS instead of a nightmare of tables and font tags could help save Slashdot an enormous amount of bandwidth and money.
Yes, i'm sure there are a ton of people, just dying to make Slashdot unreadable.
Cripes.. if you like Firefox, fine - I love Firefox, it's my absolute number one browser of choice, but that doesn't mean I'm so utterly wrapped up in myself and my own thought processes that I don't recognize that maybe some other people don't like it the same way I do.
That's not the point. Some of us fear we may one day be *forced* to use it, so we have to attack it now while there is still time.
Most of the time these things could be fixed but it was not always trivial, and it was usually one of three things that caused the problem: CSS, JavaScript, or Flash action scripting.
Then dump them! There is no need for that crap.
CSS Usually means: Unreadable. Too many young webmonsters use it to lock fonts in a tiny (unreadable) size (because it looks cool on their big screen, in their chosen resolution and because looking cool is more important than have a readable website). And MSIE ignores the user if he asks for a larger font size!
Ah cries the ignorant, so just go into options and specify "ignore font sizes on web pages" - does it really come as a surprise that it doesn't work most of the time:
* They only ignore fontsize, not line height. So if you have a font size 20 on page where the line heigh is size 8... you try and imagine the mess.
* a lot of pages, instead of living up to the design goals behind HTML tries to make it WYSIWYG with fixed sizes of tables, filling pictures (and crap layers added via javascript) - so when you disable the size the entire page can easily become unreadable because parts overlap etc.
* Of course Microsoft does what to give the user any power, so they have invented a way to still restrict font sizes regardless of settings (their windows update site is a god case) - and apparently other people figured it out and started using it on their own pages.
(someone says "getting another browser - it zooms!" - yeah right, zooming in is not an option - you try reading a line where you have to scroll left and right for EACH LINE)
As far as i'm concerned, CSS should be banned.
Same with that flash crap, 99% of all sites use it for superfluous nonsense. No sites offer anything flash worth returning for. And most of the time flash pages also have tiny unreadable letters - now the default is to have a popup menu where you can zoom in - of course most of the webmonsters disable that menu!
Because for one thing, in marketing you're not just going to put up a site full of text,
Because marketing are a bunch of wankers who are just interested in their lame product, and not in the site being usefull to the user.
I return to slashdot, it doesn't need flash, java, css or that crap to be interesting.
Flash sites, those are sizes you visit once, email and complain and tell them to get a html version and then forget.
Unlike explorer which allows people to lock fonts to a small and unreadable size (of course you tick 'ignore font sizes' but it doens't ignore line heights, making it compeltely unreadble still - and even then MS has their own way to ignore that setting (just check windows update) which others have started to copy - tsk tsk )
And before utters the usual suggestion of Firefox/mozilla, no thanks - there are too many things i don't like about it - including its instance on placing its config files in "Documents and Settings"
At least not here in europe; normally i can press the "audio" button and switch soundtrack, or press subtitle to change subtitle - but nooooooon, the lamers as lucasarts have disabled that (or perhaps, since they don't release that man DVD's - they don't know how to do it) - you have to manoeuvre back out to the menu to change it - rather lame.
That's the problem i have with all these thousands of mobil phone models; THEY ARE TOO DAMN SMALL - its all well and fine if you are some lille pop chick with a tiny hand (don't feel bad we love you, really we do;) but if you have a big man hand the damn things disappear.
Well, i'm glad someone took it the way it was intended -what is it with all these troll mods lately... oh.. wait, they have hired trolls to moderate and that is the only thing they know;)
"I took my two kids[frankly the target audience!], way past their bedtime and they didn't make a peep for the whole show!! Therefore, it's a great movie!! "
Read "The Failed Experiment" by Gary A. Mauser. Studies have shown that while "gun violence" per capita may be reduced "violent crime" in Canada, England, and Australia have significantly risen since enacting strict handgun laws.
), and you can clearly see the founding fathers of the U.S. intended for the populace to always be able to keep the government in check with the threat of revolution if the governement became corrupt.
Because they were a bunch of dumb pesants evidently.
i mean, who out there actually paying attention says "ooh, look at the mud thrown in Bush's face, he looks horrible... and Kerry's standing there all clean... I think Kerry is the way to go.."
is that not how these polls indicate these people think?
More likely it indicates that people have finally woken up and realise that Bush is a greater threat to world peace that bin landen.
Hardly surprising. You lost any crediblity when you said people were being treated nice at Guantanamo.
"He did have complaints about Bush. Bush missed his physical and went off to Alabama with none of the paperwork, I remember Killian talking about that"
Marian Carr Knox, former secretary, of Lt. Col. Jerry Killian
Killian's former secretary says she certainly didn't write these docs, but that her boss:
"He did have complaints about Bush. Bush missed his physical and went off to Alabama with none of the paperwork, I remember Killian talking about that," Knox said. "But it wasn't in memo file."
But since Bush seems to be blind to the truth, it isn't surprising his followers are;)
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Is there a direct link to a patch other thank SP2 ?
"When Windows 95 came out the days of setting individual apps to use your hardware (like sound cards) were over."
Maybe for you. But Apple had already solved that problem.
Perhaps by copying what the Amiga had done a decade before then...
You're right, this is completely unreadable
It is readable, but it isn't as good as the real thing.
They're unreadable either way, and it's not because CSS was used,
When 90% of the sites use it use it bad, then i'm not going to accept its the person, then its the standard.
You can continue complaining about IE not letting you change your text size, but realize that's an IE bug; it works fine in every other browser out there. Maybe you could complain to Microsoft?
Its by design since absolute size means absolute size - the others are doing it wrong if they don't respect that (apparently).
Which one of these sounds better to you?
Its not either or. As far as i am concerned readabilty is the most important thing, and if they can't do that without sacrificing some things, then so be it.
I suggest you try to get a better understanding of things like this before ranting about wanting them banned.
And I suggest you learn to respect that some people may disagree without, not simply because they haven't yet understood your point of view but because they disagree with you.
Your problem with CSS seems to be with the way bad web designers implement it, not CSS itself. CSS is a godsend for web design/development if you care anything about, say, saving bandwidth or making the design simple to modify. Don't blame the technology, blame the people misusing it. Doing otherwise makes you sound like a luddite.
Its a godsendt because know they can design bad pages that much more easily. You pick whatever condecening moniker that makes you feel happy.
You've probably already seen it, but if you haven't, take a look at Retooling Slashdot with Web Standards to see how using CSS instead of a nightmare of tables and font tags could help save Slashdot an enormous amount of bandwidth and money.
Yes, i'm sure there are a ton of people, just dying to make Slashdot unreadable.
Cripes.. if you like Firefox, fine - I love Firefox, it's my absolute number one browser of choice, but that doesn't mean I'm so utterly wrapped up in myself and my own thought processes that I don't recognize that maybe some other people don't like it the same way I do.
That's not the point. Some of us fear we may one day be *forced* to use it, so we have to attack it now while there is still time.
Most of the time these things could be fixed but it was not always trivial, and it was usually one of three things that caused the problem: CSS, JavaScript, or Flash action scripting.
Then dump them! There is no need for that crap.
CSS Usually means: Unreadable. Too many young webmonsters use it to lock fonts in a tiny (unreadable) size (because it looks cool on their big screen, in their chosen resolution and because looking cool is more important than have a readable website). And MSIE ignores the user if he asks for a larger font size!
Ah cries the ignorant, so just go into options and specify "ignore font sizes on web pages" - does it really come as a surprise that it doesn't work most of the time:
* They only ignore fontsize, not line height. So if you have a font size 20 on page where the line heigh is size 8... you try and imagine the mess.
* a lot of pages, instead of living up to the design goals behind HTML tries to make it WYSIWYG with fixed sizes of tables, filling pictures (and crap layers added via javascript) - so when you disable the size the entire page can easily become unreadable because parts overlap etc.
* Of course Microsoft does what to give the user any power, so they have invented a way to still restrict font sizes regardless of settings (their windows update site is a god case) - and apparently other people figured it out and started using it on their own pages.
(someone says "getting another browser - it zooms!" - yeah right, zooming in is not an option - you try reading a line where you have to scroll left and right for EACH LINE)
As far as i'm concerned, CSS should be banned.
Same with that flash crap, 99% of all sites use it for superfluous nonsense. No sites offer anything flash worth returning for.
And most of the time flash pages also have tiny unreadable letters - now the default is to have a popup menu where you can zoom in - of course most of the webmonsters disable that menu!
Because for one thing, in marketing you're not just going to put up a site full of text,
Because marketing are a bunch of wankers who are just interested in their lame product, and not in the site being usefull to the user.
I return to slashdot, it doesn't need flash, java, css or that crap to be interesting.
Flash sites, those are sizes you visit once, email and complain and tell them to get a html version and then forget.
Really, what prevents Google from making cosmetic changes to Firefox/Mozilla.
Hopefully good taste.
I wonder who authored it, and where we can complain...
Unlike explorer which allows people to lock fonts to a small and unreadable size (of course you tick 'ignore font sizes' but it doens't ignore line heights, making it compeltely unreadble still - and even then MS has their own way to ignore that setting (just check windows update) which others have started to copy - tsk tsk )
And before utters the usual suggestion of Firefox/mozilla, no thanks - there are too many things i don't like about it - including its instance on placing its config files in "Documents and Settings"
At least not here in europe; normally i can press the "audio" button and switch soundtrack, or press subtitle to change subtitle - but nooooooon, the lamers as lucasarts have disabled that (or perhaps, since they don't release that man DVD's - they don't know how to do it) - you have to manoeuvre back out to the menu to change it - rather lame.
That's the problem i have with all these thousands of mobil phone models; THEY ARE TOO DAMN SMALL - its all well and fine if you are some lille pop chick with a tiny hand (don't feel bad we love you, really we do ;) but if you have a big man hand the damn things disappear.
Well, i'm glad someone took it the way it was intended -what is it with all these troll mods lately... oh .. wait, they have hired trolls to moderate and that is the only thing they know ;)
"I took my two kids[frankly the target audience!], way past their bedtime and they didn't make a peep for the whole show!! Therefore, it's a great movie!!
;)
"
You are sure they didn't fall asleep?
I saw it - didn't look too good. And looked very much like a cheap computer picture :)
Well, i don't mind they use computers to generate special effects - but why do they have to use them to write the scripts as well?
... but apparently that's not a bug but a feature - it seems black is easier to render on the fly ;-)
Read "The Failed Experiment" by Gary A. Mauser. Studies have shown that while "gun violence" per capita may be reduced "violent crime" in Canada, England, and Australia have significantly risen since enacting strict handgun laws.
That's spindoctoring of the worst kind.
Oh we need guns to reduced crime - bullshit.
), and you can clearly see the founding fathers of the U.S. intended for the populace to always be able to keep the government in check with the threat of revolution if the governement became corrupt.
Because they were a bunch of dumb pesants evidently.
You should read something of Greg Egan, they are all science and no story.
i mean, who out there actually paying attention says "ooh, look at the mud thrown in Bush's face, he looks horrible... and Kerry's standing there all clean... I think Kerry is the way to go.."
is that not how these polls indicate these people think?
More likely it indicates that people have finally woken up and realise that Bush is a greater threat to world peace that bin landen.
Having bought one of their crappy graphic cards, which work bad, i'm not going to chance it on other of their stuff.
Just take some money from the poor - like our president.
"You lost any crediblity when you said people were being treated nice at Guantanamo."
Been there lately? No? Then shut the fuck up, okay? Okay.
Run out of glib defences for your facist state, have you?
I.e., you can't disprove what witness say.
Hardly surprising. You lost any crediblity when you said people were being treated nice at Guantanamo.
"He did have complaints about Bush. Bush missed his physical and went off to Alabama with none of the paperwork, I remember Killian talking about that"
Marian Carr Knox, former secretary, of Lt. Col. Jerry Killian
Killian's former secretary says she certainly didn't write these docs, but that her boss:
;)
"He did have complaints about Bush. Bush missed his physical and went off to Alabama with none of the paperwork, I remember Killian talking about that," Knox said. "But it wasn't in memo file."
But since Bush seems to be blind to the truth, it isn't surprising his followers are