"A Google person is offering to help health care organizations tell their side of the story, and this is "evil"?"
Yes, because its going to be a justification for killing people.
"If you think this is "evil" then I guess you think there is no room for debate here."
There isn't - not if you want to be humane. Of course what it all boils down to is the fact that most humans don't give a damn about the guy next door. Let them die, is their motto. At least that's honest, if only the HealthDon'tCare Business could be the same.
"People who scream 'Michael Moore hates America' are pathologically incapable of thinking critically or handling criticism, even when it is constructive criticism that is desperately needed."
Indeed, but to outsiders it does appear that the majority of your country think that "free speech" means they have a right to try and supress what the other party has to say. Sad really.
"Repeat every 6 years until the whole thing melts and/or people realise that country borders are arbitrary and their first responsibility should be to the human race."
So what if it MELTS - they are not after the ice - they are after the oil!
"especially since they are familiar with overzealous predictions like "everything that can be patented has been patented" and "there's a world market for maybe 5 computers"."
By idiot business people who can never see the future, you should know that.
"The last, best hope for Babylon 5 died when Straczynski was forced to rush the ending of the original story arc after Season 3."
Nonsense - nothing was rushed after season 3.
Several things were changed towards the end of season 4 because they weren't sure if they'd get a season 5 - which means season 5 feels more detached from the whole. But it was always the intention to show life after the war was over.
"From what I have researched, these records come from ice cores. However, a minor problem with ice is that it has a habit of meling above a certain temperature. Given that there may be 800,000 years covered by the samples, that does not prove that the earlies sample is 800,000 years old. how are we to know if it is not in fact 8,000,000 years old, but due to natural climate variations, a large proportion of the sample has melted in this time."
Don't be an idiot. They measure the variations in one core - its layer upon layer upon layer.
" In fact, looking at our nearest neighbour, it seems that other than the sun, there has been no other possible cause for this temperature rise."
Except of course the planetary tilt which changes back and forth over time due to the celestial mechanics.
"Besides which, I seem to recall that temperatures peaked around 1998, and have been stable/dropping since then."
Not on this planet.
"Additionally, ALL the research being done that shows CO2 is the cause of global warming is started under the premise that this is what is the cause"
No, that is what religion does, not real science. Many have been trying to disprove it, but found that they couldn't.
"Have YOU approached the science with an open mind, HONESTLY willing to look at "the science, the evidence" from both sides, "
There not "sides" - there are theories which are either supported by fact or not. There is no proof of god, but there is of global warming and co2.
"There is no mention of global warming in the article."
There doesn't have to be for people to speculate it might be related. If the heat has melted an ice block for instance, so now it could just run out the drain so to speak.
"Lighten TFU, people."
I am, I still hope GW will wipe humanity out. Dirty rats.
"How about you answer the following lies by Moore, described in the article linked by the grandparent: "
"At one point in the film, Moore apparently even alters a Bush-Quayle campaign ad, changing history to make a point."
Don't know, can't remember what it looked like. However: Based on other comments made by so many, he is doing a commentary which is quite clear too INTELLIGENT PEOPLE, ie, not altering the add to fool anyone, but commenting on it. Only the stupid people who don't understand that, and later think "holy shit I've been conned" are yelling and raving about being lied to, and its really their own ignorance they are yelling about.
"Moore's problems with veracity date back to 'Roger and Me,' in which he famously shifted the actual timeline of events for dramatic effect."
Probably the same thing there, as Hollywood (and tv) knows: Assume your audience are stupid and don't demand something from them - Moore does that.
many people left voluntarily to take jobs
I don't know what anyone is trying to prove there, but it's hearsay. Just as if you were to say "most people hate michael moore"
"Once we fill this planet to the breaking point (which we will), we'll either die off, improving the "herd", or we'll send parts of us away to seed nearby star systems"
Or having a child will no longer be a "right" - but something you can, on occasion be allowed to do (it works, look at china, they have negative growth finally).
"I'm afraid this notion of "fewer humans on earth" is fundamentally nonsense. Biology demands that we expand and multiply, or die trying."
But only animals give in to that - we could try growing up instead (not any time soon of course when the vast majority still belives in supernatural beings)
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"If it has opinion, it's an editorial. If had has "Just the facts, ma'am," then it's a documentary"
In your opinion. The rest of the world has never had a problem with commentary to opnions, infact they insist upon it.
"If your facts are good, you don't need to opine on anything."
Of course you do - people have different opinons about facts.
"Do you realize that healthcare is the largest cause of debt in the United States? "
Proof or its just a lie.
"Documentaries are designed to document facts, leaving conclusions up to the viewer."
That is your opnion, it is not the opinion of educated people in most of the rest of the world. A documentary is supposed to have an OPINION as well.
"A Google person is offering to help health care organizations tell their side of the story, and this is "evil"?"
Yes, because its going to be a justification for killing people.
"If you think this is "evil" then I guess you think there is no room for debate here."
There isn't - not if you want to be humane. Of course what it all boils down to is the fact that most humans don't give a damn about the guy next door. Let them die, is their motto. At least that's honest, if only the HealthDon'tCare Business could be the same.
"People who scream 'Michael Moore hates America' are pathologically incapable of thinking critically or handling criticism, even when it is constructive criticism that is desperately needed."
Indeed, but to outsiders it does appear that the majority of your country think that "free speech" means they have a right to try and supress what the other party has to say. Sad really.
"Repeat every 6 years until the whole thing melts and/or people realise that country borders are arbitrary and their first responsibility should be to the human race."
So what if it MELTS - they are not after the ice - they are after the oil!
Got a link to high quality quicktime as well?
"We are an arrogant people who for some reason think we know everything yet laugh at those who came before us for thinking the very same thing"
Indeed. I say Let Global Warming Win!
"especially since they are familiar with overzealous predictions like "everything that can be patented has been patented" and "there's a world market for maybe 5 computers"."
By idiot business people who can never see the future, you should know that.
"The last, best hope for Babylon 5 died when Straczynski was forced to rush the ending of the original story arc after Season 3."
Nonsense - nothing was rushed after season 3.
Several things were changed towards the end of season 4 because they weren't sure if they'd get a season 5 - which means season 5 feels more detached from the whole. But it was always the intention to show life after the war was over.
Its one day all the evil websites won't be stealing money from the starving artists!
Assuming I have any ;-)
"From what I have researched, these records come from ice cores. However, a minor problem with ice is that it has a habit of meling above a certain temperature. Given that there may be 800,000 years covered by the samples, that does not prove that the earlies sample is 800,000 years old. how are we to know if it is not in fact 8,000,000 years old, but due to natural climate variations, a large proportion of the sample has melted in this time."
Don't be an idiot. They measure the variations in one
core - its layer upon layer upon layer.
" In fact, looking at our nearest neighbour, it seems that other than the sun, there has been no other possible cause for this temperature rise."
Except of course the planetary tilt which changes back and forth over time due to the celestial mechanics.
"Besides which, I seem to recall that temperatures peaked around 1998, and have been stable/dropping since then."
Not on this planet.
"Additionally, ALL the research being done that shows CO2 is the cause of global warming is started under the premise that this is what is the cause"
No, that is what religion does, not real science. Many have been trying to disprove it, but found that they couldn't.
"Have YOU approached the science with an open mind, HONESTLY willing to look at "the science, the evidence" from both sides, "
There not "sides" - there are theories which are either supported by fact or not. There is no proof of god, but there is of global warming and co2.
"There is no mention of global warming in the article."
There doesn't have to be for people to speculate it might be related. If the heat has melted an ice block for instance, so now it could just run out the drain so to speak.
"Lighten TFU, people."
I am, I still hope GW will wipe humanity out. Dirty rats.
He worked for them.
He bought thottbot for IGE.
He has more cred than you.
"When was the last time anyone logged in? "
8 million logged in yesterday.
"At first, it just looks like a 2D game, before you are immersed enough to realize that it's just poorly done 3D cartoonish graphics."
You misspelled "brilliant graphics".
"Wait how do they make money?"
Simple. They just buy it!
Of course it did a long time ago really.
its not a troll. Grow the fuck up will you.
"Wow, so you don't know anything,"
Actually, I'm the one who does know.
"and your only argument is that the people who take what Moore did at face value are stupid."
His movies are art (hence the awards), so yes they are.
"Apparently you like being spoonfed bullshit "
No, what should have been apparent was that I knew that I wasn't. Go to night school.
"How about you answer the following lies by Moore, described in the article linked by the grandparent: "
"At one point in the film, Moore apparently even alters a Bush-Quayle campaign ad, changing history to make a point."
Don't know, can't remember what it looked like. However: Based on other comments made by so many, he is doing a commentary which is quite clear too INTELLIGENT PEOPLE, ie, not altering the add to fool anyone, but commenting on it. Only the stupid people who don't understand that, and later think "holy shit I've been conned" are yelling and raving about being lied to, and its really their own ignorance they are yelling about.
"Moore's problems with veracity date back to 'Roger and Me,' in which he famously shifted the actual timeline of events for dramatic effect."
Probably the same thing there, as Hollywood (and tv) knows: Assume your audience are stupid and don't demand something from them - Moore does that.
many people left voluntarily to take jobs
I don't know what anyone is trying to prove there, but it's hearsay. Just as if you were to say "most people hate michael moore"
I thought only pedophiles thought of such jokes.
"Its important not to disregard someone just because of their age."
Mostly people disregard someone because of the way they behave and they way they piss you off.
"Once we fill this planet to the breaking point (which we will), we'll either die off, improving the "herd", or we'll send parts of us away to seed nearby star systems"
Or having a child will no longer be a "right" - but something you can, on occasion be allowed to do (it works, look at china, they have negative growth finally).
"I'm afraid this notion of "fewer humans on earth" is fundamentally nonsense. Biology demands that we expand and multiply, or die trying."
But only animals give in to that - we could try growing up instead (not any time soon of course when the vast majority still belives in supernatural beings)
A good science fiction writer will predict the car.
A great science fiction writer will predict the traffic jam.