They could get him under Section 1201 (a); "No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title."
Yeah, there is no technological measure which protects anything to get around - the people who use it have paid for access to the work.
Use of *any* programs which run outside WoW and interact with it are specifically prohibited in the Terms of Service. What that means is that it doesn't in fact matter what WoWGlider does; as a third party program it is in violation of the ToS.
And even if that Tos was legal and an agreenwith the player, it would be the player who should be taken to task - not the programmer of the program.
Blizzard's ToS is very specific as
Which nobody cares about because its not a contract (If you reply to this message you own me a million dollars. Do you feel bound by that? No. People click an annoying button and they still haven't made any kind of agreement)
Sure, it's an independent software developer, who cares? He's charging money for a program that explicitly violates the TOS that a user agrees to when signing up for World of Warcraft.
Clicking a button does not constitute an agreement of the user. And unless they can prove that he is playing the game (and has agreed to their terms) what should that be to him?
It's just one bot program out of many, but maybe the others will get the picture and GTFO also. I'm tired of trying to play legitimately, having bots always stealing my kills.:(
Clearly an annoyance, born out of non nerds do not want to grind forever like the old addics of evercrack did - if blizzard doesn't start handing out items and gold much easier this is not going to stop.
They should stop doing evil: Fix their groups design which is totally awfull and remove all that imbedded stylesheet and javascript crap on the search engine!
There is a Euro sign infront of the number (if you can't see that, time to upgrade your browser;)
The Euro is the name of the currency the European Union is trying to make the common currency of europe. Many countries are in the process of getting rid of local currencies in favor of the Euro.
. When the content owners start sending subpeonas to YouTube for the IPs of the people posting the content and then the ISP's of those users to get names and addresses ....that Google didn't log that information.
Prediction the fourth: They will use some crappy format (like Flash or encrypted wmv) that i can only watch on a webpage and thusly I couldn't care less about it since i refuse to watch stuff on the computer.
Its not user friendly, its lame crap - and since i (as any sensible user) have flash blocked I can never see anything there without having to download the thing first.
This is a fundamental error that a lot of people make. The "government" isn't a group of aliens or some amorphous blob-like entity which is different from the rest of us. It is us.
That is an even more fundamental error that even more people make.
If you knew anything about the case in question, you wouldn't have any sympathy period.
Freedom of speech is paramount. Anthony Walker was a nice black kid, waiting at a bus stop with a couple of white friends when a bunch of thugs starting shouting racist abuse at them. After they attempted to walk away from the abuse, the thugs chased then down, and murdered Walker by plunging an ice pick into his head.
Irrelevant, unless your claim is that this troll did that. It was a shockingly brutal and unprovoked attack that shocked the vast majority of people in the country.
I'm not surprised, doesn't give them the right to supress freedom of speech (especially since that makes it worse)
Then less than a week after this happens, this guy anonymously posts on a memorial website that white people should celebrate the murder, that Anthony's family should be burned and made references to slavery and a "banana boat".
So what? He's guilty of very bad taste, nothing more and shouldn't be punished for that unless the specific phrasing of that they should be burned suggested he wanted to go and do that right now.
It is very uncommon to get in trouble for written text or speech.
Only because people have learned to censor what they write, he OP is right it is getting worse and worse - free speech is quickly becomming an outdated notion.
To get in trouble, what you say or write must have the potential to cause violence against minorities.
Which is of course just their excuse for the censorship.
The reason is of course the Nazi history, which led to a stronger emphasis of the protection of an individual's dignity and safety.
Which is more bullshit. In Denmark for instance you can be a nazi, and they have about 60 that the rest laugh at. In Germany it is forbidden to even think about it and they have thousands and growing all the time.
You don't build a society by supressing ideas - if they are a minority they are hardly a problem, if they are the majority well who are you to claim you are right.
European societies have agreed on giving the protection of minorities a higher priority than racists' "right" to express their hatred against them --
While people like you like to spin it as hatred, having a different opinion than you doesn't mean your excuse for censorship is valid. If people don't like someone that should be their right, its truely a sick society which forces people to like (or pretend) to like what they do not - hardly a free society.
Europe's history was very violent, with millions brutally murdered by the Nazis out of hatred against political, religious and racial minorities.
Of course you can't prove that it was hatred, that's just your spin.
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They could get him under Section 1201 (a); "No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title."
Yeah, there is no technological measure which protects anything to get around - the people who use it have paid for access to the work.
Use of *any* programs which run outside WoW and interact with it are specifically prohibited in the Terms of Service. What that means is that it doesn't in fact matter what WoWGlider does; as a third party program it is in violation of the ToS.
And even if that Tos was legal and an agreenwith the player, it would be the player who should be taken to task - not the programmer of the program.
Blizzard's ToS is very specific as
Which nobody cares about because its not a contract (If you reply to this message you own me a million dollars. Do you feel bound by that? No. People click an annoying button and they still haven't made any kind of agreement)
... it says Blizzard has wealthy customers ;)
Sure, it's an independent software developer, who cares? He's charging money for a program that explicitly violates the TOS that a user agrees to when signing up for World of Warcraft.
:(
Clicking a button does not constitute an agreement of the user. And unless they can prove that he is playing the game (and has agreed to their terms) what should that be to him?
It's just one bot program out of many, but maybe the others will get the picture and GTFO also. I'm tired of trying to play legitimately, having bots always stealing my kills.
Clearly an annoyance, born out of non nerds do not want to grind forever like the old addics of evercrack did - if blizzard doesn't start handing out items and gold much easier this is not going to stop.
And learn to accept other opinions than your own.
They should stop doing evil: Fix their groups design which is totally awfull and remove all that imbedded stylesheet and javascript crap on the search engine!
There is a Euro sign infront of the number (if you can't see that, time to upgrade your browser ;)
The Euro is the name of the currency the European Union is trying to make the common currency of europe. Many countries are in the process of getting rid of local currencies in favor of the Euro.
Nothing to do with "hosting" from what I understand, other than because they weren't hosting the files they couldn't remove offending files.
That was his point.
. When the content owners start sending subpeonas to YouTube for the IPs of the people posting the content and then the ISP's of those users to get names and addresses
....that Google didn't log that information.
Or go find them on bittorrent as .avi's
(which is what I did)
Or not waste time (which is what i did)
(it's not like the writers are getting residuals anyways)
Its not like the deserve it anyways.
I'd hear the word "fun" about BSG, the most dreary depressing bleak stuff on tv at the moment.
Too raving.
And even if it does, it only does so in the US.
Languages change dickhead
Yes, but he was an uneducated idiot - dickhead.
Prediction the fourth: They will use some crappy format (like Flash or encrypted wmv) that i can only watch on a webpage and thusly I couldn't care less about it since i refuse to watch stuff on the computer.
...did they not just make a profit buy "buying" this company?
Good, they are going to need it when people start suing them for copyright infringements.
but much more user friendly Flash format?
Its not user friendly, its lame crap - and since i (as any sensible user) have flash blocked I can never see anything there without having to download the thing first.
get over it.
This is a fundamental error that a lot of people make. The "government" isn't a group of aliens or some amorphous blob-like entity which is different from the rest of us. It is us.
That is an even more fundamental error that even more people make.
So please take it from me, crushing race hate is worth losing some smaller liberties
Supressing freedom of speech does nothing to crush "race hate", but it helps Nazism rise again.
If you knew anything about the case in question, you wouldn't have any sympathy period.
Freedom of speech is paramount.
Anthony Walker was a nice black kid, waiting at a bus stop with a couple of white friends when a bunch of thugs starting shouting racist abuse at them. After they attempted to walk away from the abuse, the thugs chased then down, and murdered Walker by plunging an ice pick into his head.
Irrelevant, unless your claim is that this troll did that.
It was a shockingly brutal and unprovoked attack that shocked the vast majority of people in the country.
I'm not surprised, doesn't give them the right to supress freedom of speech (especially since that makes it worse)
Then less than a week after this happens, this guy anonymously posts on a memorial website that white people should celebrate the murder, that Anthony's family should be burned and made references to slavery and a "banana boat".
So what? He's guilty of very bad taste, nothing more and shouldn't be punished for that unless the specific phrasing of that they should be burned suggested he wanted to go and do that right now.
Of course not - why should you do anything about impotent people yelling? Just ignore them.
It is very uncommon to get in trouble for written text or speech.
Only because people have learned to censor what they write, he OP is right it is getting worse and worse - free speech is quickly becomming an outdated notion.
To get in trouble, what you say or write must have the potential to cause violence against minorities.
Which is of course just their excuse for the censorship.
The reason is of course the Nazi history, which led to a stronger emphasis of the protection of an individual's dignity and safety.
Which is more bullshit. In Denmark for instance you can be a nazi, and they have about 60 that the rest laugh at. In Germany it is forbidden to even think about it and they have thousands and growing all the time.
You don't build a society by supressing ideas - if they are a minority they are hardly a problem, if they are the majority well who are you to claim you are right.
European societies have agreed on giving the protection of minorities a higher priority than racists' "right" to express their hatred against them --
While people like you like to spin it as hatred, having a different opinion than you doesn't mean your excuse for censorship is valid. If people don't like someone that should be their right, its truely a sick society which forces people to like (or pretend) to like what they do not - hardly a free society.
Europe's history was very violent, with millions brutally murdered by the Nazis out of hatred against political, religious and racial minorities.
Of course you can't prove that it was hatred, that's just your spin.
Phrases to annoy the anal-retentive: Information wants to be free. The USA is a democracy.
It is a democracy why does that annoy people?
Its funny the idiots don't understand the more you supress an opnion the more widespread it gets.
Of course that is going out of fashion as well.
Regardless of what they went they are the enemy when the support the war against freedom of speech.