Well the 730S is supposed to be a low cost low end solution. Their target market will mostly be pc manufactures instead of more advanced pc users who can build their own system. You'll find this chipset in almost all of the sub $1000 premade pc's (ie. compaq, hp, e-machines etc.)I think it's funny how this chipset is dogged because it doesn't meet hardcore geeks expectations, but i have to ask how many of you would buy a 60 dollar motherboard? not many of you.
Basically the chipset meets it purpose, it's an inexpensive chipset for an inexpensive processor to make inexpensive, entry-level, low-end pc's. I guess it would be the equivalant of the 440zx chipset. Grandma only checks her email, types letters, and researches our family tree. She doesn't need 23500000000000000 fps in quake 3:)
Now don't flame me because I put the duron in the lowend group, remember that's what it was designed for. I realize you hardware buffs will want to buy them because they perform well and are very overclockable like the celeron, but would you really buy a cheap motherboard to overclock on? I didn't think so, but then this chipset wasn't made for you.
I've been dealing with Air2Lan, a wireless company providing service in Mississippi. As of right now I don't think I could recommend it to a single person.
The first problem is there are no real sys admins or network techs. It's mainly RF guys. Everytime we've had a problem of not being able to get out they send an RF guy with a laptop to check the signal, but not the network! We get the same reply "it's goin' from this antenna to that one so it's working, must be you computer" Finally after much frustration they realized our crapply lucent router died.
I've also found out we've had bandwith restrictions put on, because their backbont is only a T-1 and can't handle much more from it's current customers, I've been told a DS3 will be put in, but that was 5 months ago and nothing, they advertised a gauranteed 2.5Mbs and I'm lucky to get 1Mbs.
I've even had as much as a week downtime because it took them that long to change an antenna and router at the main location. Also my company bought a new billing office in a location that we were promised they could give us service in. We thought it was fishy since it wasn't line of site, but they said it would work. Well after spending $130,000 on the building they say "can't do it" This was the best thing that could have happened, because instead we got SDSL. It's cheaper, faster, and more reliable than their crappy wireless service.
Basically, I think it could work, in the right hands. But with customer service like this and network management like this, I can't expect too much. If you decide you want to try this then besure you aren't contracted if you decide it isn't what you're looking for.
just turn it upside down so the cool shiney side shows and put a candle on it... or you can use it as a wax gard if holding tapered candles, just slide it through the hole. Great for all the techno pagens outthere.
I really amazes me that companies will spend that much money on the ILLUSION of tech support. Just think, everytime you call a baby bell you're being timed/monitored/and logged. Your tech is also being timed monitored and logged. Of course you can't expect real tech support if the technicians are only allowed x amount of time on the phone. How can you exaust all posibilities for a problem on an old slow computer that has to be rebooted every time you change something in the network properties (damn windows) in 15 minutes?
Then we cuss these people, call them idiots, refuse to listen to suggestions and are just down right horrid to them and all they get paid is what ever the company can scrape from the piggy bank? We call them idiots, when we are to stupid to figure it out ourselves. It's usually not even their fault, the may know the solution, but the Hot Cube is disconnecting the to move on to the next call.
We pay for support and we should get REAL support. Not a gracious 15 min. time limit and a "reboot and call me back thank you drive through please... would you like fries with that?"
I'm sure many of us have worked tech support, i'm sure many of us have had to call tech support. I hope everyone can remember how bad it can get. Remember just because you've "learned out" doesn't give you the right to act like a total snob on the phone with the technician. I can't tell you how many times i've heard "I'm and MCSE, I KNOW TO RIGHT CLICK!!!" or "I'm running linux, it's not a configuration problem!!!". Sorry, but the other 99% that call me aren't as blessed with computer literacy as you, so I'd rather be to remedial than have someone misunderstand me. It doesn't mean I'm talking down to you. Just because you can install linux doesn't make you an admin or guru, maybe the support rep can offer a conf suggestion or two... why else would you call? don't you think they would be swamped and would know if a router or what not went down, usually they check by request, and if it's not on their end it must be on yours. So maybe a little support from the company and the customers would be nice for a change. Keep that in mind next time you have to call someone
That is why I despise working for large corperations. I'm currently working for a local ISP that only offers statewide coverage. The ISP is actually one of the largest in the state and is the largest locally owned ISP. We aren't required to say any silly lines other than how may I help you. If the customer cusses us we are allowed to hang up on them (my favorite part:) ) The president of the company hangs out with us and buys us beer after work/pays for vacations to florida and gives us christmas bonuses... It's one of the best jobs I've had and I can attribute that fact to being simply a small successful company. If you don't like comcast quit, find a small successful company and work there. I worked at compusa for 2 years and had the same crap you had at comcast... a 50 cent pay cut isn't bad when the stress levels go from 100 points to -10:)
I don't think presidents really exist... They have all been fabricated by the CIA so that we won't know that Mulder was right and we are being dominated by a secret alien military stile government. Also fabricated by the CIA is Santa Clause (his sleigh was abducted by aliens in 1962), the Tooth Fairy (was shot down over libia in 1983), The Easter Bunny (Road kill 1975 RT 66), and the band Hanson (really just 4 mop handles with hair and eyeballs glued on)
There was an interesting parody on PRN's All Things Considered yesturday... Basically it stated that the election would obviouslly have to end up in court. Kennedy may have bought the election, Nixon tried to steal it, Reagan sold it, and Clinton was impeached... Obviously it's a criminal offense to be president so they must go to court... I guess the best jailbird won hehe
I agree, I thought the movie was great... er however David Lynch strongly disagreed:) hehe, He thought his own movie was so horrible that he wouldn't even put his name in the credits until some time later. Patrick Stewart also hated it. He said it was one of his worst performances. It's funny, but it seems only the most hardcore geeks actually liked it. Makes you wonder how it got so much television play.
"Yes, they're saying they can collect royalties because you have in effect bought a physical copy of the music. It's like an evaporating cd i guess.... Satan himself would be proud of the RIAA for this little idea"
The RIAA would be stepping on the HARRY FOX AGENCY's turf, they collect the mechanical royalties (cd/album sales) Shouldn't it be them that's collecting these royalties, to my knowledge the RIAA has never really dealt with anything other than suing people:) and stealing royalties, not collecting them for artists... RIAA=MUSIC INDUSTRY MAPHIA (protection money) hehe
This is very true, Moderaters, he makes a very important point, maybe this should be modded up? Traditionally ASCAP BMI and SESAC have collected broadcast royalties, and the Harry Fox Agency has collected mechanical royalties (album sales). Why are they allowing the RIAA to try to take this, streaming broadcast would be ASCAP/BMI's arena, and actual downloadable files would be the Harry Fox Agency's arena.
"Fifty percent of the royalties will be distributed to the copyright holders - usually, the record labels. The balance will be divvied up among the artists."
this is part of the problem, the musicians/writers don't hold their own copyrights. If they did, i'm sure most would want the added publicity of having music available on the internet. The majority of music isn't top 40 you know. In general it's a really bad idea to sign your rights over to any company. Musicians should always work under a QUALIFIED MANAGER, and have a QUALIFIED LAWYER review any contracts.
Also, what's with the RIAA trying to collect royalties? Traditionally ASCAP, BMI and SESAC have handled this in most performances(broadcast, and live) and the Harry Fox Agency has collected mechanical royalties.
The worst part of this is the lable's only get 50%!!! Really, so the apparently the RIAA get's the rest, who's the real criminal. ASCAP and BMI only retain 17-19% and are NON-PROFIT organizations. It's time musicains and composers start sueing the RIAA... Being a Musician and Music Industry Major I plan on boycotting their overly corrupt organization which exists soley for the welfare of their pockets at the expense of musicians and writers. Hopefully I will have to deal with them as little as possible.
Actually I'd like to see the market stay somewhat balanced with Intel and AMD. Competition is always good for prices and innovation. I just wish Intel would slow down and try to innovate more than rush. AMD took it's time to get where it is, Intel should learn from there success.
wouldn't it be really great if we could move into a 3 processor market in a few years if VIA continues to develope the cyrix 3... I know it sucks now, but then again anyone remember the k5:) need I say more?
as far as people on aol and creativity... You can't really expect that. Certainly it would be nice, but I think people get more computers now than in the 80's for 2 reasons, they are affordable, and they are easy to use. If it was affordable and not easy you would probably not see as many people with computers as is... other wise everyone would run linux to save money and get the infamous MS refund promised in the license. basically AOL holds your had, has everything in one program (basically) and most importantly is EASY. Really if it weren't for everyone having a computer because it's easy quite a few of us would not have jobs...
I do feel the same way, I'd also hate to see Intel lose so much that it goes back to a one processor market (not that that will happen anytime soon). I'm hoping that via can continue developement on the cyrix3. It's a crappy chip right now, but so was AMD a few years ago. In the right hands maybe VIA could add a 3rd processor to the market. With three companys competing I think we would see a bit more reliability... They would have to to stay in the game... I think eventually Intel will have to pull out of this slump. I'm hoping there is some hidden stratagy here:). Don't get me wrong, I love AMD and have 3 amd machines to my one intel, but I don't won't the market to become unbalanced again.
so you're saying a poorly designed processor can't run hot? And all that time I thought the cyrix was just a bad chip and it was really just bad pc design... Either way they made great space heaters in the tech shop... every time it got cold we would just take the cases off a few packard bells and huddle around them.
once while working at as a technician for CrapUSA(compusa) I had an Asian customer bring a laptop in for repair. He was having problems connecting to the internet and we had a hell of a time fixing it because the whole operating system (windows 98) and even his keyboard were Chinese/Japanese Charactors(not sure which). So it is possible to type in these charactors.
"What I am really curious about it exactly how viable AMD's chips are going to actually be in the server market. They are going to need to make large cache versions of the chip... not to mention, does the 760MP chipset have the scalability? Can it support Quad and 8-way SMP configurations? AMD may overtake Intel on the lower-end server market by offering a Dual CPU solution, but unless they are capable of these other configurations, Intel will still be king in the server room. Remember, one of the main differences between the P3 and the P3 Xeon is the extra "glue" logic that Intel has added to the chips to allow for more than Dual CPU configurations."
Think about AMD's past stratagy. They have never been a company to jump in over their head. AMD always "tests the waters" first. AMD entered the low end desktop market with it's 486DX4's, k-5 and k-6 series. They managed to get k-6 machines into a 49% (compusa's statistic) of the lowend computer market with intel holding another 49%, i guess cyrix had the rest. This brought enough recognition and capitol to move to a stronger chip.
Then they bring in the athlon to compete in the highend desktop market. Not sure how much of that market they have, I think it was around 25% with Intel around 60% maybe? There next step following this patter would actually be lowend server market. I'm sure they will want to test the waters like before and eventually when the RandR has paid itself off move to the meduim or highend desktop. They will need to stimulate demand for a high-end solution by capturing the interest of low-end market. I have a feeling they will wait til 64 bit has been a out a while before moving into this.
AMD's buisness stratagy seems very wise, most companys try to take on too much too soon.
I've been a long time supporter of AMD and really love their products. I'm glad that there is competion now pushing prices down and developement ahead. Unfortunately it seems like intel is rushing too much trying to keep ahead and making several mistakes. While I prefer AMD I certainly don't want to see intel loose too much of the market (I know it would take quite a few years for this to happen if it does). I'd hate to see a one processor market again.
Looks like AMD did bring the dual board in at the right time. It will be interesting to see if this stratagy and Intel's mistakes can really get them in the server market. As of right now, I don't know many people willing to give up there Pentium servers for AMD, but without dual support they may not have much choice.
While I agree that our freedom of speech is very precious and should be vehemously protected I have only 2 things I value above this freedom. It's human life and children. I know it's been said, but obviously a child was abused for that photo. I don't think I can agree with the comment of drug abuse factor without statistical evidence. However I do think child abuse behavior is simular to drug abuse (I am a recovering drug addict sober fro 5 years). As a drug addict I could not stay with one drug, it stopped working so I would have to find something else or stronger. I child porn addict is PROBABLY the same mentality, after a while child porn stops working and the pedophile needs more, at first maybe just watching children playing in the park, but then further down the road the obsession pushes the person to actually physically abuse children. No child is worth the right to have psuedo port pictures. PERIOD. perhaps when you have children it will be more clear.
This whole IP genetic patent thing really bugs me. It's atrocious to think that we as human beings can be so bold as to claim ownership to the building blocks of life. I'm sorry ma'am, but your newly conceived child is a clear infringement of our IP, you will have to turn it over to our RnD dept. immediately.
I don't want to be around when some Deity decides to cash in on copyright infringement. place big booming voice here layered with reverb "THAT'S MY IP!!!" ZAP!!!!
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Well the 730S is supposed to be a low cost low end solution. Their target market will mostly be pc manufactures instead of more advanced pc users who can build their own system. You'll find this chipset in almost all of the sub $1000 premade pc's (ie. compaq, hp, e-machines etc.)I think it's funny how this chipset is dogged because it doesn't meet hardcore geeks expectations, but i have to ask how many of you would buy a 60 dollar motherboard? not many of you.
:)
Basically the chipset meets it purpose, it's an inexpensive chipset for an inexpensive processor to make inexpensive, entry-level, low-end pc's. I guess it would be the equivalant of the 440zx chipset. Grandma only checks her email, types letters, and researches our family tree. She doesn't need 23500000000000000 fps in quake 3
Now don't flame me because I put the duron in the lowend group, remember that's what it was designed for. I realize you hardware buffs will want to buy them because they perform well and are very overclockable like the celeron, but would you really buy a cheap motherboard to overclock on? I didn't think so, but then this chipset wasn't made for you.
I've been dealing with Air2Lan, a wireless company providing service in Mississippi. As of right now I don't think I could recommend it to a single person.
The first problem is there are no real sys admins or network techs. It's mainly RF guys. Everytime we've had a problem of not being able to get out they send an RF guy with a laptop to check the signal, but not the network! We get the same reply "it's goin' from this antenna to that one so it's working, must be you computer" Finally after much frustration they realized our crapply lucent router died.
I've also found out we've had bandwith restrictions put on, because their backbont is only a T-1 and can't handle much more from it's current customers, I've been told a DS3 will be put in, but that was 5 months ago and nothing, they advertised a gauranteed 2.5Mbs and I'm lucky to get 1Mbs.
I've even had as much as a week downtime because it took them that long to change an antenna and router at the main location. Also my company bought a new billing office in a location that we were promised they could give us service in. We thought it was fishy since it wasn't line of site, but they said it would work. Well after spending $130,000 on the building they say "can't do it" This was the best thing that could have happened, because instead we got SDSL. It's cheaper, faster, and more reliable than their crappy wireless service.
Basically, I think it could work, in the right hands. But with customer service like this and network management like this, I can't expect too much. If you decide you want to try this then besure you aren't contracted if you decide it isn't what you're looking for.
crap should have hit preview.. I can spell really... PAGANS sorry
just turn it upside down so the cool shiney side shows and put a candle on it... or you can use it as a wax gard if holding tapered candles, just slide it through the hole. Great for all the techno pagens outthere.
I really amazes me that companies will spend that much money on the ILLUSION of tech support. Just think, everytime you call a baby bell you're being timed/monitored/and logged. Your tech is also being timed monitored and logged. Of course you can't expect real tech support if the technicians are only allowed x amount of time on the phone. How can you exaust all posibilities for a problem on an old slow computer that has to be rebooted every time you change something in the network properties (damn windows) in 15 minutes?
Then we cuss these people, call them idiots, refuse to listen to suggestions and are just down right horrid to them and all they get paid is what ever the company can scrape from the piggy bank? We call them idiots, when we are to stupid to figure it out ourselves. It's usually not even their fault, the may know the solution, but the Hot Cube is disconnecting the to move on to the next call.
We pay for support and we should get REAL support. Not a gracious 15 min. time limit and a "reboot and call me back thank you drive through please... would you like fries with that?"
I'm sure many of us have worked tech support, i'm sure many of us have had to call tech support. I hope everyone can remember how bad it can get. Remember just because you've "learned out" doesn't give you the right to act like a total snob on the phone with the technician. I can't tell you how many times i've heard "I'm and MCSE, I KNOW TO RIGHT CLICK!!!" or "I'm running linux, it's not a configuration problem!!!". Sorry, but the other 99% that call me aren't as blessed with computer literacy as you, so I'd rather be to remedial than have someone misunderstand me. It doesn't mean I'm talking down to you. Just because you can install linux doesn't make you an admin or guru, maybe the support rep can offer a conf suggestion or two... why else would you call? don't you think they would be swamped and would know if a router or what not went down, usually they check by request, and if it's not on their end it must be on yours. So maybe a little support from the company and the customers would be nice for a change. Keep that in mind next time you have to call someone
That is why I despise working for large corperations. I'm currently working for a local ISP that only offers statewide coverage. The ISP is actually one of the largest in the state and is the largest locally owned ISP. We aren't required to say any silly lines other than how may I help you. If the customer cusses us we are allowed to hang up on them (my favorite part :) ) The president of the company hangs out with us and buys us beer after work/pays for vacations to florida and gives us christmas bonuses... It's one of the best jobs I've had and I can attribute that fact to being simply a small successful company. If you don't like comcast quit, find a small successful company and work there. I worked at compusa for 2 years and had the same crap you had at comcast... a 50 cent pay cut isn't bad when the stress levels go from 100 points to -10 :)
I don't think presidents really exist... They have all been fabricated by the CIA so that we won't know that Mulder was right and we are being dominated by a secret alien military stile government. Also fabricated by the CIA is Santa Clause (his sleigh was abducted by aliens in 1962), the Tooth Fairy (was shot down over libia in 1983), The Easter Bunny (Road kill 1975 RT 66), and the band Hanson (really just 4 mop handles with hair and eyeballs glued on)
That's horrible, with digital telivision this is supposedly going to get worse... God hates the MPAA... so do i for that matter...
There was an interesting parody on PRN's All Things Considered yesturday... Basically it stated that the election would obviouslly have to end up in court. Kennedy may have bought the election, Nixon tried to steal it, Reagan sold it, and Clinton was impeached... Obviously it's a criminal offense to be president so they must go to court... I guess the best jailbird won hehe
I agree, I thought the movie was great... er however David Lynch strongly disagreed :) hehe, He thought his own movie was so horrible that he wouldn't even put his name in the credits until some time later. Patrick Stewart also hated it. He said it was one of his worst performances. It's funny, but it seems only the most hardcore geeks actually liked it. Makes you wonder how it got so much television play.
"Yes, they're saying they can collect royalties because you have in effect bought a physical copy of the music. It's like an evaporating cd i guess.... Satan himself would be proud of the RIAA for this little idea"
:) and stealing royalties, not collecting them for artists... RIAA=MUSIC INDUSTRY MAPHIA (protection money) hehe
The RIAA would be stepping on the HARRY FOX AGENCY's turf, they collect the mechanical royalties (cd/album sales) Shouldn't it be them that's collecting these royalties, to my knowledge the RIAA has never really dealt with anything other than suing people
If you aren't a member then they should have nothing to do with you. They just want money, and if they are collecting royalties you should sue them :)
This is very true, Moderaters, he makes a very important point, maybe this should be modded up? Traditionally ASCAP BMI and SESAC have collected broadcast royalties, and the Harry Fox Agency has collected mechanical royalties (album sales). Why are they allowing the RIAA to try to take this, streaming broadcast would be ASCAP/BMI's arena, and actual downloadable files would be the Harry Fox Agency's arena.
"I suppose this is better than the estimated 15% artists currently get from CD sales, but still seems quite rediculous"
yeah, it's funny, according to the SGA's suggested contract, artist should get 75% of Mechanical Royalties(cd/record sales)
"Fifty percent of the royalties will be distributed to the copyright holders - usually, the record labels. The balance will be divvied up among the artists."
this is part of the problem, the musicians/writers don't hold their own copyrights. If they did, i'm sure most would want the added publicity of having music available on the internet. The majority of music isn't top 40 you know. In general it's a really bad idea to sign your rights over to any company. Musicians should always work under a QUALIFIED MANAGER, and have a QUALIFIED LAWYER review any contracts.
Also, what's with the RIAA trying to collect royalties? Traditionally ASCAP, BMI and SESAC have handled this in most performances(broadcast, and live) and the Harry Fox Agency has collected mechanical royalties.
The worst part of this is the lable's only get 50%!!! Really, so the apparently the RIAA get's the rest, who's the real criminal. ASCAP and BMI only retain 17-19% and are NON-PROFIT organizations. It's time musicains and composers start sueing the RIAA... Being a Musician and Music Industry Major I plan on boycotting their overly corrupt organization which exists soley for the welfare of their pockets at the expense of musicians and writers. Hopefully I will have to deal with them as little as possible.
Actually I'd like to see the market stay somewhat balanced with Intel and AMD. Competition is always good for prices and innovation. I just wish Intel would slow down and try to innovate more than rush. AMD took it's time to get where it is, Intel should learn from there success.
:) need I say more?
wouldn't it be really great if we could move into a 3 processor market in a few years if VIA continues to develope the cyrix 3... I know it sucks now, but then again anyone remember the k5
as far as people on aol and creativity... You can't really expect that. Certainly it would be nice, but I think people get more computers now than in the 80's for 2 reasons, they are affordable, and they are easy to use. If it was affordable and not easy you would probably not see as many people with computers as is... other wise everyone would run linux to save money and get the infamous MS refund promised in the license. basically AOL holds your had, has everything in one program (basically) and most importantly is EASY. Really if it weren't for everyone having a computer because it's easy quite a few of us would not have jobs...
I do feel the same way, I'd also hate to see Intel lose so much that it goes back to a one processor market (not that that will happen anytime soon). I'm hoping that via can continue developement on the cyrix3. It's a crappy chip right now, but so was AMD a few years ago. In the right hands maybe VIA could add a 3rd processor to the market. With three companys competing I think we would see a bit more reliability... They would have to to stay in the game... I think eventually Intel will have to pull out of this slump. I'm hoping there is some hidden stratagy here :). Don't get me wrong, I love AMD and have 3 amd machines to my one intel, but I don't won't the market to become unbalanced again.
so you're saying a poorly designed processor can't run hot? And all that time I thought the cyrix was just a bad chip and it was really just bad pc design... Either way they made great space heaters in the tech shop... every time it got cold we would just take the cases off a few packard bells and huddle around them.
once while working at as a technician for CrapUSA(compusa) I had an Asian customer bring a laptop in for repair. He was having problems connecting to the internet and we had a hell of a time fixing it because the whole operating system (windows 98) and even his keyboard were Chinese/Japanese Charactors(not sure which). So it is possible to type in these charactors.
"What I am really curious about it exactly how viable AMD's chips are going to actually be in the server market. They are going to need to make large cache versions of the chip... not to mention, does the 760MP chipset have the scalability? Can it support Quad and 8-way SMP configurations? AMD may overtake Intel on the lower-end server market by offering a Dual CPU solution, but unless they are capable of these other configurations, Intel will still be king in the server room. Remember, one of the main differences between the P3 and the P3 Xeon is the extra "glue" logic that Intel has added to the chips to allow for more than Dual CPU configurations."
Think about AMD's past stratagy. They have never been a company to jump in over their head. AMD always "tests the waters" first. AMD entered the low end desktop market with it's 486DX4's, k-5 and k-6 series. They managed to get k-6 machines into a 49% (compusa's statistic) of the lowend computer market with intel holding another 49%, i guess cyrix had the rest. This brought enough recognition and capitol to move to a stronger chip.
Then they bring in the athlon to compete in the highend desktop market. Not sure how much of that market they have, I think it was around 25% with Intel around 60% maybe? There next step following this patter would actually be lowend server market. I'm sure they will want to test the waters like before and eventually when the RandR has paid itself off move to the meduim or highend desktop. They will need to stimulate demand for a high-end solution by capturing the interest of low-end market. I have a feeling they will wait til 64 bit has been a out a while before moving into this.
AMD's buisness stratagy seems very wise, most companys try to take on too much too soon.
ummm, all I have to say is i810 and RAMBUS. that certainly wasn't broken was it? :)
I've been a long time supporter of AMD and really love their products. I'm glad that there is competion now pushing prices down and developement ahead. Unfortunately it seems like intel is rushing too much trying to keep ahead and making several mistakes. While I prefer AMD I certainly don't want to see intel loose too much of the market (I know it would take quite a few years for this to happen if it does). I'd hate to see a one processor market again.
Looks like AMD did bring the dual board in at the right time. It will be interesting to see if this stratagy and Intel's mistakes can really get them in the server market. As of right now, I don't know many people willing to give up there Pentium servers for AMD, but without dual support they may not have much choice.
While I agree that our freedom of speech is very precious and should be vehemously protected I have only 2 things I value above this freedom. It's human life and children. I know it's been said, but obviously a child was abused for that photo. I don't think I can agree with the comment of drug abuse factor without statistical evidence. However I do think child abuse behavior is simular to drug abuse (I am a recovering drug addict sober fro 5 years). As a drug addict I could not stay with one drug, it stopped working so I would have to find something else or stronger. I child porn addict is PROBABLY the same mentality, after a while child porn stops working and the pedophile needs more, at first maybe just watching children playing in the park, but then further down the road the obsession pushes the person to actually physically abuse children. No child is worth the right to have psuedo port pictures. PERIOD. perhaps when you have children it will be more clear.
How is this flamebait??? maybe the moderator should be flamed. This persons opinion is a compassionate and well illustrated opinion.
This whole IP genetic patent thing really bugs me. It's atrocious to think that we as human beings can be so bold as to claim ownership to the building blocks of life. I'm sorry ma'am, but your newly conceived child is a clear infringement of our IP, you will have to turn it over to our RnD dept. immediately.
I don't want to be around when some Deity decides to cash in on copyright infringement. place big booming voice here layered with reverb "THAT'S MY IP!!!" ZAP!!!!