The bill will probably die in committee. As far as I can tell, it hasn't had any kind of hearing yet. You can browse through some related hearings here on other topics.
Almost every hearing regarding the NWS all the testimony about them is nothing but praise.
I also highly doubt that any person from a state with a Gulf or Atlantic border (with the exception of New England) is probably going to be strongly opposed to this change. A large number of small coastal communities rely on the NWS, as well as local news sources which also rely on the NWS for their information.
The bill will be lucky to ever be brought up again.
You'll notice that almost everywhere in U.S. law where it refers to a "State" it will qualify that by saying "also includes commonwealths, territories, etc."
According to the 14th Amendment, "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
They need to ask the people that will make the actual decision whether or not to implement these things. A lot of times it comes down to a financial or otherwise decision made by someone outside the IT Department. Those are the people that will decide whether or not such a migration takes place. The IT dept will be the ones that have to figure out how to implement it, but chances are they're not the ones making the decision.
Dear Skype, We, the FCC, require you, a British company, to comply with American laws.
It doesn't matter where your company is, you're very intentionally doing business with US Citizens. You've subjected yourself to US Jurisdiction. If you don't like it, don't do business here.
I'm still waiting for evidence. It's just so popular to say that people on Slashdot are hypocrites without actually providing any evidence other than you remember from a past discussion a lot of comments advocating one point of view, and now in this discussion there are a lot of comments advocating another point of view.
There is nothing there that says it must be "genetic" to be considered a disability. In fact, some cases of CTS could be considered a disability and others might not.
For instance, if it was so severe that you were not able to use a keyboard for a long period of time, then it could be a disability.
And on another note, why is every trend always "troubling", every impact "profound"? I find it amusing that those who would, say, be fully in support of embryonic stem cell research, apparently throwing any ethical concerns to the wind, all of a sudden see "troubling" ethical implications for employers trying to use the same essential tools.
Who are these "those who would"? I don't recall any information on the number of people who fully support all embryonic stem cell research also being troubled by employers engaging in the practices in this article.
By a simple random test, I think the results are clear: GOOGLE IS THE BETTER SEARCH ENGINE
All you "proved" is that Google is the better search engine when looking for information on obscure villages in Mongolia. Nothing else.
Besides, if you skip the adds, the first two results returned by Yahoo were more reliable sources. Wikipedia, and weather information on the location, as opposed to some site on Tripod for Google.
When the early European explorers found our little rock over here, the first thing they did was check it out. The next thing they did was build a military presence on it.
You left out a step:
Destroy whatever civilization that was there before you, and then claim you discovered it first.
Yeah, but that's a truly crap system. Decimal time? Come on. At least let us retain some of our intuition for what "1 pm" means. Quick, what does @248.000 mean? Is it lunch time in the Geneva? Everyone has a hard-earned intuition for what "5 minutes" or "a couple of hours" means. Don't mess with the units: offsets are fine because they're easy to deal with without resorting to pencil and paper.
Sounds a lot like the arguments for sticking with the Imperial system of measurement. The rest of world managed the switch just fine, why would it be that much more difficult for time?
Everyone is more alert and usually in more of a hurry, so less likely to wander into the road.
Maybe that's why the town of Oakwood, OH installed a bunch of rails on the sidewalks around town. It's one of the goofiest looking things I've ever seen, but I guess it might keep those children from sleep walking into the street.
Which will still confuse the people that know that "EST" does not mean "Eastern" but "Eastern Standard Time," and the only state that is on EST right now is Indiana. Everyone else is on CDT or EDT. (CDT and EST just happen to coincide at the moment).
May I also add that extending Daylight Saving Time even farther into the fall is a bad idea(tm). I work at an elementary school. The kids tend to show up between 8:30 and 9:00 am. Understandard time in November, the sun has been up for maybe 40 minutes by the time they get here. Extending Daylight Saving Time even further means that they will be walking to school in the dark, which just seems like bad policy to me. Furthermore, I bike to work at about 7:00. I really don't like being on the road when it is very dark, which it can be at 7:00. It will be even worse with more DST.
Here in Dayton, Ohio, we're almost as far west as you can get in EDT (not including Michigan and half Kentucky.
The last school day that will be during DST in 2006 will be November 17th. Twilight will begin at 7:55 am, the sun will rise at 8:24 am, noon will be at 1:22 pm, and the sun will set at 5:20 pm.
Without DST, the same day would be sun rise at 7:24 am, noon at 12:22 pm, sunset at 4:20 pm.
When the kids go back to school on January 4th, without DST, the sun will rise at 7:58 am, noon at 12:42 pm, sunset at 5:25 pm.
I don't see it being that much of a difference. And actually, without DST, with the sun setting at 4:20 pm, you probably have some kids going home in the dark. Especially if they're in after school activities (something which I'm sure being a fan of doing things "for the children" you will support).
So they either go to school in the dark in the morning, or they come home in the dark at night.
Don't most cellular phones get their time from the tower they're connected to? So how is this a problem with the phones?
Also, at least with Sprint, my free calling period depends on the time in the timezone I am in, which is clearly displayed on the front of my phone.
I also like the line: ''It is unfortunately going to add a little bit of complexity to consumers," said Reid Sullivan, vice president of Panasonic Consumer Electronics Co. ''In some cases, depending on the product, they may have to manually increase or decrease the time."
You know, my grandparents have a house full of this weird looking machines that require you to manually increase or decrease the time with daylight savings time now. I wonder if the people at Panasonic have ever heard of these devices? Consumers have had them for a long time, and seem to have adapted quite well to adjusting the time on them for DST.
Of course stuff that is hardcoded with the old DST dates is going to have trouble. Yeah, that's a lot of gadgets. What can we do about it though? Most of those gadgets are not upgradable, so you're going to have to change the time on them twice a year now (once they figure out how to turn off the automatic DST updates).
I imagine most gadgets have a very simple option to turn off DST, since not every state and/or country observes it.
Different countries observe DST at different points in time as well.
It's a problem we've been dealing with for quite awhile and haven't had too many problems other than confusing people that live next to a state that doesn't observe DST.
But I agree that we should have "permanent DST," of course, people could end up just offsetting that by going to work an hour later. DST is just there to "trick" us into waking up a little earlier in the summer.
It matters because it means that it is not all doom and gloom just because we'll be looking at a clock that is an hour off for a few months until someone updates the system.
DST has been changed in the past several times and the world didn't explode then.
The one thing which I am strongly in favor of is to put an end to daylight savings time. That is an entirely unnecessary and provably not energy conserving complexity which sounded like a nice idea but isn't.
Or, instead of getting rid of it, just make it permanent time zone switch. I kind of like that it is light out until 9:30pm in the summer, and morning daylight is wasted on most people anyway.
.business can determine what hours they want their employees to work, based on the amount of daylight available at that particular time of year, but the time standard would be the same everywhere. That way, there would be none of this bullshit confusion about 'what time is that here', or 'what is the time there'. It's GMT. The same damned time everywhere.
Of course, this also creates a similar problem, it just shifts it to a different area.
Instead of "what is it there"? The question becomes "What time do you start work over there?" "What time do you wake up over there?"
So you still have to remember the same information, except there's less standardization aside from being able to say "Meet me at 10:00" and everyone can look at their watch and understand it to mean the same thing no matter where they are.
So we'll all have the same time on our watches, but we'll be doing whatever we want whenever we want and coordination would become even more confusing.
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The bill will probably die in committee. As far as I can tell, it hasn't had any kind of hearing yet. You can browse through some related hearings here on other topics.
Almost every hearing regarding the NWS all the testimony about them is nothing but praise.
I also highly doubt that any person from a state with a Gulf or Atlantic border (with the exception of New England) is probably going to be strongly opposed to this change. A large number of small coastal communities rely on the NWS, as well as local news sources which also rely on the NWS for their information.
The bill will be lucky to ever be brought up again.
You'll notice that almost everywhere in U.S. law where it refers to a "State" it will qualify that by saying "also includes commonwealths, territories, etc."
According to the 14th Amendment, "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
They need to ask the people that will make the actual decision whether or not to implement these things. A lot of times it comes down to a financial or otherwise decision made by someone outside the IT Department. Those are the people that will decide whether or not such a migration takes place. The IT dept will be the ones that have to figure out how to implement it, but chances are they're not the ones making the decision.
How many times are you going to plug your own craptastic wiki on this discussion?
My personal favorite article on your wiki:
http://jnana.wikinerds.org/index.php/Food
From the story you cite:
Benson says Emery has sold $3 million worth of seeds - mostly to the U.S.
You sell stuff to people in the U.S. you're subject to jurisdiction in the U.S. regarding those sales.
Also, the raid on the guys home was authorized by a Canadian judge and carried by Canadian authorities.
Dear Skype, We, the FCC, require you, a British company, to comply with American laws.
It doesn't matter where your company is, you're very intentionally doing business with US Citizens. You've subjected yourself to US Jurisdiction. If you don't like it, don't do business here.
I sure hope you don't fry your bread in the toaster. Where do you put the oil or fat to fry it in?
Toasters heat bread. You might consider it baking, but it's definitely not frying.
Your arguments would hold more water if your original comment weren't the first reply to this article.
So, the people you were calling hypocrites hadn't even replied yet.
I'm still waiting for evidence. It's just so popular to say that people on Slashdot are hypocrites without actually providing any evidence other than you remember from a past discussion a lot of comments advocating one point of view, and now in this discussion there are a lot of comments advocating another point of view.
I'm kind of tired of comments like that.
What does the ADA consider a disability?"
There is nothing there that says it must be "genetic" to be considered a disability. In fact, some cases of CTS could be considered a disability and others might not.
For instance, if it was so severe that you were not able to use a keyboard for a long period of time, then it could be a disability.
And on another note, why is every trend always "troubling", every impact "profound"? I find it amusing that those who would, say, be fully in support of embryonic stem cell research, apparently throwing any ethical concerns to the wind, all of a sudden see "troubling" ethical implications for employers trying to use the same essential tools.
Who are these "those who would"? I don't recall any information on the number of people who fully support all embryonic stem cell research also being troubled by employers engaging in the practices in this article.
Buy book at retail cost, 100%. Sell it to next semester student for half price... 50%...
...
Or buy this book at 66% cost and then have your friend buy it at 66% cost
It's more like:
Buy book at retail cost, 100%. Next semester a new edition comes out and you can't pay anyone to take it off your hands.
Buy this book at 66% cost.
By a simple random test, I think the results are clear: GOOGLE IS THE BETTER SEARCH ENGINE
All you "proved" is that Google is the better search engine when looking for information on obscure villages in Mongolia. Nothing else.
Besides, if you skip the adds, the first two results returned by Yahoo were more reliable sources. Wikipedia, and weather information on the location, as opposed to some site on Tripod for Google.
In the end, it's all subjective anyway.
When the early European explorers found our little rock over here, the first thing they did was check it out. The next thing they did was build a military presence on it.
You left out a step:
Destroy whatever civilization that was there before you, and then claim you discovered it first.
Yeah, but that's a truly crap system. Decimal time? Come on. At least let us retain some of our intuition for what "1 pm" means. Quick, what does @248.000 mean? Is it lunch time in the Geneva? Everyone has a hard-earned intuition for what "5 minutes" or "a couple of hours" means. Don't mess with the units: offsets are fine because they're easy to deal with without resorting to pencil and paper.
Sounds a lot like the arguments for sticking with the Imperial system of measurement. The rest of world managed the switch just fine, why would it be that much more difficult for time?
Everyone is more alert and usually in more of a hurry, so less likely to wander into the road.
Maybe that's why the town of Oakwood, OH installed a bunch of rails on the sidewalks around town. It's one of the goofiest looking things I've ever seen, but I guess it might keep those children from sleep walking into the street.
"OK, what time *EST* do we have the next call".
Which will still confuse the people that know that "EST" does not mean "Eastern" but "Eastern Standard Time," and the only state that is on EST right now is Indiana. Everyone else is on CDT or EDT. (CDT and EST just happen to coincide at the moment).
May I also add that extending Daylight Saving Time even farther into the fall is a bad idea(tm). I work at an elementary school. The kids tend to show up between 8:30 and 9:00 am. Understandard time in November, the sun has been up for maybe 40 minutes by the time they get here. Extending Daylight Saving Time even further means that they will be walking to school in the dark, which just seems like bad policy to me. Furthermore, I bike to work at about 7:00. I really don't like being on the road when it is very dark, which it can be at 7:00. It will be even worse with more DST.
Here in Dayton, Ohio, we're almost as far west as you can get in EDT (not including Michigan and half Kentucky.
The last school day that will be during DST in 2006 will be November 17th. Twilight will begin at 7:55 am, the sun will rise at 8:24 am, noon will be at 1:22 pm, and the sun will set at 5:20 pm.
Without DST, the same day would be sun rise at 7:24 am, noon at 12:22 pm, sunset at 4:20 pm.
When the kids go back to school on January 4th, without DST, the sun will rise at 7:58 am, noon at 12:42 pm, sunset at 5:25 pm.
I don't see it being that much of a difference. And actually, without DST, with the sun setting at 4:20 pm, you probably have some kids going home in the dark. Especially if they're in after school activities (something which I'm sure being a fan of doing things "for the children" you will support).
So they either go to school in the dark in the morning, or they come home in the dark at night.
Don't most cellular phones get their time from the tower they're connected to? So how is this a problem with the phones?
Also, at least with Sprint, my free calling period depends on the time in the timezone I am in, which is clearly displayed on the front of my phone.
I also like the line: ''It is unfortunately going to add a little bit of complexity to consumers," said Reid Sullivan, vice president of Panasonic Consumer Electronics Co. ''In some cases, depending on the product, they may have to manually increase or decrease the time."
You know, my grandparents have a house full of this weird looking machines that require you to manually increase or decrease the time with daylight savings time now. I wonder if the people at Panasonic have ever heard of these devices? Consumers have had them for a long time, and seem to have adapted quite well to adjusting the time on them for DST.
Of course stuff that is hardcoded with the old DST dates is going to have trouble. Yeah, that's a lot of gadgets. What can we do about it though? Most of those gadgets are not upgradable, so you're going to have to change the time on them twice a year now (once they figure out how to turn off the automatic DST updates).
I imagine most gadgets have a very simple option to turn off DST, since not every state and/or country observes it.
Different countries observe DST at different points in time as well.
It's a problem we've been dealing with for quite awhile and haven't had too many problems other than confusing people that live next to a state that doesn't observe DST.
But I agree that we should have "permanent DST," of course, people could end up just offsetting that by going to work an hour later. DST is just there to "trick" us into waking up a little earlier in the summer.
It matters because it means that it is not all doom and gloom just because we'll be looking at a clock that is an hour off for a few months until someone updates the system.
DST has been changed in the past several times and the world didn't explode then.
The one thing which I am strongly in favor of is to put an end to daylight savings time. That is an entirely unnecessary and provably not energy conserving complexity which sounded like a nice idea but isn't.
Or, instead of getting rid of it, just make it permanent time zone switch. I kind of like that it is light out until 9:30pm in the summer, and morning daylight is wasted on most people anyway.
.business can determine what hours they want their employees to work, based on the amount of daylight available at that particular time of year, but the time standard would be the same everywhere. That way, there would be none of this bullshit confusion about 'what time is that here', or 'what is the time there'. It's GMT. The same damned time everywhere.
Of course, this also creates a similar problem, it just shifts it to a different area.
Instead of "what is it there"? The question becomes "What time do you start work over there?" "What time do you wake up over there?"
So you still have to remember the same information, except there's less standardization aside from being able to say "Meet me at 10:00" and everyone can look at their watch and understand it to mean the same thing no matter where they are.
So we'll all have the same time on our watches, but we'll be doing whatever we want whenever we want and coordination would become even more confusing.
Swatch started such an initiative a couple years ago.
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